On first glance it doesn't look like theres much money at the lane for new signings at the moment. But thats ok, we came very very good at the end of last season and if we can keep that momentum then we should be ok.

Its interesting (and predictable) though that Wednesday fans are deriding Uniteds lack of activity in the transfer market. After all we do have a big wage bill, this season is the last parachute payment from the premiership so money is likely to be tight after this season. So surely Uniteds board are being cautious and cutting their cloth accordingly. This is called budgeting it means that while there isn't much money the board are being farsighted and trying to work within their means so as a club we don't suffer too badly financially and we are able to function with some semblance and try to remain in profit.

If only Wednesdays board had displayed such prudence then maybe our friends in S6 wouldn't be in the dire financial straits they are in. Its foolish to mock a club for trying to budget and remain financially viable

That is all very true.

That is all very true.I'm shocked! I thought you'd slaughter me!

You will struggle to find a bigger critic of Allen & Co than me.

I don't post lies (I admit I post some daft stuff), I don't call Blades fans names and the info I post is genuine.

i wouldnt criticise the utd board for making no signings, might aswell see how you do at start of season and make more if needed in january. although alot of the financial problems at wednesday were down to the board, they were messed up with the itv deal falling through and i dont think we even got all if any parachute payments

David- can you please tell me what facts you base your last statement on?

why wouldn't wednesday have gotten any payments from the premier league?

Do you know something or are you just making it up?

i dont know it is fact, as i said i THINK they didnt , i'm pretty sure we didnt get the full amount. i could be wrong, i just seem to remember reading it somewhere but it was a long time ago

i would think that if the premier league had shortchanged wednesday then most people would have heard of it- its a pretty big thing.

yes maybe. it might of been they got less than they would of if the itv deal hadnt gone wrong. i dont know, i thought i'd heard something along those lines

the ITV deal ony affected the bottom 3 rungs of the league, the premier league has a compleatly seperate deal with sky and the BBC for the matches.

I remember the ITV collapse did lose a lot of clubs a lot of money, or took away the promise of monies forthcoming (Wednesday included), but can't remember how, why, or how much it was. I just remember the feeling of shock at the time, and a lot of concern from seasoned professionals connected to the game, pundits, commentators, club directors etc.
On this kind of subject, history's not my bag either!

I remember the ITV collapse did lose a lot of clubs a lot of money, or took away the promise of monies forthcoming (Wednesday included), but can't remember how, why, or how much it was. I just remember the feeling of shock at the time, and a lot of concern from seasoned professionals connected to the game, pundits, commentators, club directors etc.
On this kind of subject, history's not my bag either!

My history especially when it comes to wednesday is non existant but, seem to think the silly money thrown at DiCanio and Carbone and a few others put you lot in the sh*te but I might be wrong, It was certainly the start of the rot thats set in at the Sty though

Dead right, CB.
I don't know what we paid players in those days, but I do remember some of the 'premier' players we had, who were probably on plenty of dosh per week.
The 'great Peter Atherton', 'the premier star' Ian Nolan etc. They were just not good enough for the Prem. People like Di Canio, Carbone and Sibon were good enough, but were surrounded mainly by crocks and 1st division players. We got what we deserved, and the club got in to the mess it deserved. (Allegedly);)

David- can you please tell me what facts you base your last statement on?

why wouldn't wednesday have gotten any payments from the premier league?

Do you know something or are you just making it up?

I believe that parachute payments were introduced at the start of the 2006/7 season (so Wednesday wouldn't have got a penny) but this only amounts to 6.5 million over the first two years in the lower division/s. Remember that united would have got around 45 to 50 million quid for their season in the premier league but I think that McCabe will be looking to invest in long term sustainable income, unlike Wednesday who gambled all on a quick return to the premiership by not off loading their more expensive more talented players quickly.

Despite all of the hype on a quick return last season I think McCabe's long term goal is to establish United as a very good solid Championship club. The appointment of Robson was to build a good squad of young and established players using his connections and then be able to mount a sustained challenge for promotion year on year and so avoiding relegation if they were successful.

As the saying goes: Softly Softly Catchee a Monkey

Despite all of the hype on a quick return last season I think McCabe's long term goal is to establish United as a very good solid Championship club. The appointment of Robson was to build a good squad of young and established players using his connections and then be able to mount a sustained challenge for promotion year on year and so avoiding relegation if they were successful.

As the saying goes: Softly Softly Catchee a Monkey

Nobody can argue that they're not an established Championship side,with one season in the Prem in 15 years. I think McCabe is a very good businessman though and has done a lot more for your club than anybody I can remember. It would be nice to have someone with his mettle at Hillsborough, I'm bit envious, all we've had is; the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker and a load of coffin dodgers on our board.

It may have been on this thread a little while ago, or on another one, but I remember a Blade (one who's opinion I remember having respect for) saying something about 'being concerned' that they thought that maybe McCabe was doing all this wheeling and dealing to yes, improve the club, but he/she seemed to be then implying that when McCabe had got all the purchases and 'investments' in place, that he (McCabe) would then probably look to severe his ties with United and walk away a much wealthier man. leaving behind a wealthier club, thereby suiting both parties.
Is this the opinion of a lot of other Blades, or do they think McCabe is in it for the long haul?

It may have been on this thread a little while ago, or on another one, but I remember a Blade (one who's opinion I remember having respect for) saying something about 'being concerned' that they thought that maybe McCabe was doing all this wheeling and dealing to yes, improve the club, but he/she seemed to be then implying that when McCabe had got all the purchases and 'investments' in place, that he (McCabe) would then probably look to severe his ties with United and walk away a much wealthier man. leaving behind a wealthier club, thereby suiting both parties.
Is this the opinion of a lot of other Blades, or do they think McCabe is in it for the long haul?

I think the McCabe family will be involved with the Blades as long as we need them.

Kevin McCabe has made no secret of the fact he has looked for overseas (US) investment (e.g. serious money to take us to the next level).

I don't doubt if Mr McCabe had the opportunity to secure our long term future he would do whatever is best for the club.

Nobody can argue that they're not an established Championship side,with one season in the Prem in 15 years. I think McCabe is a very good businessman though and has done a lot more for your club than anybody I can remember. It would be nice to have someone with his mettle at Hillsborough, I'm bit envious, all we've had is; the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker and a load of coffin dodgers on our board.

I'm a Wednesdayite by the way.

But one thing's for sure is that the businessmen who run football clubs don't do it for the love of the game or the club, they do it for financial gain.

We're deluding ourselves if we think otherwise.

What I meant by an established and solid side is one which is always in the top quarter of the table or there abouts year after year and doesn't succumb to the yo yo effect.

In order to do this a club would have to generate sustained income which it can invest in players, its coaching and scouting set up, it seems that Mr McCabe has some sort of understanding of football and the way clubs need to operate in order to be successful.

I wish more club Chairmen were like him.

I'm a Wednesdayite by the way.

But one thing's for sure is that the businessmen who run football clubs don't do it for the love of the game or the club, they do it for financial gain.

We're deluding ourselves if we think otherwise.

What I meant by an established and solid side is one which is always in the top quarter of the table or there abouts year after year and doesn't succumb to the yo yo effect.

In order to do this a club would have to generate sustained income which it can invest in players, its coaching and scouting set up, it seems that Mr McCabe has some sort of understanding of football and the way clubs need to operate in order to be successful.

I wish more club Chairmen were like him.

Sorry about the 'your club' remark. I totally agree with what you're saying. A lot of teams go up without a cat in hells chance of survival and the only way to do it is with a good infrastructure and forward planning. Unfortunately for us Wednesday lads we're incapable of running a wotsit in a brewery. I quite admire McCabe and his efforts, wasted on them though :)

Nobody can argue that they're not an established Championship side,with one season in the Prem in 15 years. I think McCabe is a very good businessman though and has done a lot more for your club than anybody I can remember. It would be nice to have someone with his mettle at Hillsborough, I'm bit envious, all we've had is; the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker and a load of coffin dodgers on our board.

I think you might be confusing previous Wendy boards with the present FA.:thumbsup:

I think you might be confusing previous Wendy boards with the present FA.:thumbsup:
Dinosaurs with little knowledge or ambition, I hear you. By the way it's Wednesday :)

On first glance it doesn't look like theres much money at the lane for new signings at the moment. But thats ok, we came very very good at the end of last season and if we can keep that momentum then we should be ok.

Its interesting (and predictable) though that Wednesday fans are deriding Uniteds lack of activity in the transfer market. After all we do have a big wage bill, this season is the last parachute payment from the premiership so money is likely to be tight after this season. So surely Uniteds board are being cautious and cutting their cloth accordingly. This is called budgeting it means that while there isn't much money the board are being farsighted and trying to work within their means so as a club we don't suffer too badly financially and we are able to function with some semblance and try to remain in profit.

If only Wednesdays board had displayed such prudence then maybe our friends in S6 wouldn't be in the dire financial straits they are in. Its foolish to mock a club for trying to budget and remain financially viable

Couldn't agree with you more!:thumbsup: