Just wondered if anyone could suggest anything that might help me with our dog before I go insane!!
She is just two and we have had her since she was 10 weeks old, she is house trained but..............
Every morning I wake up to a kitchen full of pee & **** and it's driving me mad.
She is let out before we go to bed (usually around 12) and my OH gets up for work at 5am, he lets her out when he gets up and again before he leaves at 6am, I'm up at 7.30 with the kids for school and she's done it:rant::rant::gag:

Does anyone have any ideas why or how to stop her:help:

Can you not just put down loads of newspaper and train her to go on that? Then you can just screw it up and throw it out in the morning.

is something waking her up alot earlier than you get up? Perhaps a milkman or bus, or perhaps neighbours rising earlier

Is she okay if you leave her to go out?

I wonder if she ought to be taken for a walk when your other half gets up so that she feels more inclined to releive herself outdoors- sometimes, this sort of toileting behaviour can be a sign of boredom- it's also become a regular routine for her and you will need to go back to proper toilet training again to get her out of the habit. Make sure you wash your floors with biological washing powder dissolved in warm water to completely remove the scent of toilet (you might not be able to smell anything but a dog's nose is many times more powerful than a human's and she may think the kitchen is her toilet because their is still residual toilet scent in her view). Shouting or striking a dog that has this issue is not desirable and can if anyhting reinforce the behaviour. She needs to get back into a clear housetraining routine and not be given the opportunity to toilet indoors- restrict the area she is allowed to roam whilst you are asleep - a crate may be worth investing in as dogs tend not to toilet in a confined space

thanks Katkin, good advice.
She does go when she's let out at 6am so I just don't understand what happens between 6 & 7.30!!
She never does it it we leave her in the day and sometimes if she's in a particularly lazy mood she will lay on the settee all day and no amunt of persuading can get her to go out!!!!

I should read more carefully :roll:

If she's already been let out, that sounds more like a learned behaviour she's got going on

An alternative for cleaning would be Safe4 disinfectant and deodoriser - which is completely harmless to your dog and doesn't need rinsing (mop up puddles first, then spray and leave)

Would it be possible for you to get up at 6 too for a while? Leave the dog where she's usually left, but potter about completely ignoring her. Progress to not turning up until five mins after your husband leaves, then ten, 15, 20. You should then eventually work your way back to your normal time for getting up

We had a devil of a job with a pup who's sleep pattern was shot to hell and was making a right mess of his cage on a nightly basis. I would go to bed at 2am, and Mr Strix would then get up at half five so we could break this habit, eventually stretching in either direction to get to some state of normal

Another thing to think about is what you are feeding her.
Has her diet been changed and is it something thats just giving her too much food for her to contain. Some feeds are all bulk and stodge - whereas others - their stools are much smaller and less frequent.

Even some of the expensive brands - can still be full of stodge.
People going on the BARF diet - the stools are down to miniscule size, and only ever 2 small ones twice a day - cos the dogs are absorbing the food.

Failing that - look at say something like chappie or purina 1 , or james welbeloved -
look at the time and amounts that you are feeding her, and make sure its the right amount for her size and activity.
Maybe change to 1 small feed in the morning and a couple of slices of toast at 5.00
worth a try.
Good luck - its horrible, but sometimes if you look at everything - there may be something she is trying to tell you.

I know some people will be shocked at this, but Porscha is doing great on Morrisons own brand meaty chunks with wag mixer. She loves it and is doing great on it.
I did butchers and pedigree and it went straight through her.

Just a thought but does your husband feed her when he gets up at 6? or is she fed when you get up?

she has her main meal at tea time every day and a weetabix when I get up in the morning.
She's been on the same food since we got her from the breeder so I don't think it can be that.
We have tried me getting up with her and gradually getting less and she's fine, but hen as soon as I'm not up she's we're back to square one!!!

Does she poo at night after she's been fed or do you think she's hanging on to it until morning before you get up? Some dogs don't suit having all their food in one go - with Ailsa, because she is one of the breeds prone to torsion/bloat if they gulp their food at once, we have always fed her half her daily allowance in the morning (at least 1 hr after she has been exercised) and the other half at tea-time.

She tends to poo in the morning when she is out with the other half being exercised, or when she she gets back, in our yard and we have got her into a routine now so she will wee on command (that sounds like we shout at her to do it but that's not the case at all- we just use a trigger word and have done ever since we got her- we praise her when she's done what she needs to do and whatever the weather, we will stand outside with her until she HAS done it, so we don't have any nasty surprises when we get home).

Is she a specific breed or a cross breed? With some dogs too, once theyve been spayed, some will leak a little urine because they may become slightly incontinent, but this would not explain the poo. Some bitches can be stressed and will wee when the are excited or anxious about something. It could be that she knows you will be annoyed with her but it is a learned behaviour and she cannot prevent herself from still doing it. I suspect she needs re-housetraining and encouraged/rewarded with praise when she does the right thing.

Do you confine her to a crate or does she have the run of the kitchen?