Isn’t about time that the definition of pavement be changed to reflect contemporary reality?

Instead of ‘walk consisting of a paved area for pedestrians; usually beside a street or roadway’ shouldn’t they now be defined as ‘paved area for the indiscriminate parking of wheelie bins’ or ‘cunningly designed pedestrian obstacle course utilizing wheelie bins’ or ‘no-go areas for parents with pushchairs, the visually impaired, the physically disabled, old age pensioners and anyone else trying to go about there business as a pedestrian’.

If I had the authority, I’d require each household to register their wheelie bin and pay a £50 deposit. The wheelie bin would then be stamped with a unique identifying number and if it is subsequently found causing an obstruction on the pavement, the £50 is lost. Any bin on the pavement 24 hours before or after rubbish day would incur the same charge. Repeat offenders could expect an ASBO. Pretty soon, we would have wheelie bin free streets – imagine that! Or more to the point, imagine the council imagining that!

We have the same problem in our area and the Council were going to write to the offenders with a warning. The bins are left out on the street from one bin emptying day to the next. When it's windy they are blown into the road causing obstruction to motorists. Whatever the Council said they were going to do hasn't worked and we still have the bloody things strewn across the street!

Some of us don't have front yards with enough room to house 3 wheelie bins - something the council seem to have forgotten in their ridiculously pointless 'green bin' idea. Why didn't they find out who already composted their own waste first?

Originally posted by noseyrosie
Some of us don't have front yards with enough room to house 3 wheelie bins - something the council seem to have forgotten in their ridiculously pointless 'green bin' idea. Why didn't they find out who already composted their own waste first?

If you don't want a green bin or haven't got room for one - ask Onyx to collect it.

Onyx delivered green bins to everyone in the roll-out areas. It encourages folk to start re-cycling. You may be good at composting/re-cycling, but not everyone is so well minded. So, if you are 'green minded' to compost, what's so "ridiculously pointless" about encouraging others to use the new green bins? We have to cut down on landfill - so let's start using the green bins!

Isn't there a suggestion about that if you leave bins out on the street longer than 24 hours then you'll get fined? Think Labour have proposed this? Sounds a good idea to me.

Originally posted by redrobbo
If you don't want a green bin or haven't got room for one - ask Onyx to collect it.

Onyx delivered green bins to everyone in the roll-out areas. It encourages folk to start re-cycling. You may be good at composting/re-cycling, but not everyone is so well minded. So, if you are 'green minded' to compost, what's so "ridiculously pointless" about encouraging others to use the new green bins? We have to cut down on landfill - so let's start using the green bins!

Isn't there a suggestion about that if you leave bins out on the street longer than 24 hours then you'll get fined? Think Labour have proposed this? Sounds a good idea to me.

Except not really. Many streets with terraced houses don't have anywhere to put the bins - any of them - without leaving them on the street. EVERYONE on our road would get fined. FOr not having a big front yard. Doesn't seem fair somehow?

who would be to blame if this happened?

You put your wheelie bin out at 07.30 on way to work and there is no way you will arrive home until 18.00 to take them in. In the meantime they have been emptied and left any old which way but loose on the pavement but ONYX. Some person, unknown, has tried to get passed and pushed the bin into the road with such force that it has dented a legally parked car's door.

I can't say that I've noticed this problem.

Most bins are put out (and you've just reminded me that i forgot this morning) on bin day and taken in that evening.

A few might be left for slightly longer, but not enough to cause a nuisance.
And these are all terrace houses as well, i've never seen a terrace house that doesn't have at least a small back yard.

It's a very valid point that a lot of houses don't have the space to put a range of multi-coloured bins either round the back or at the front. At the minute, I've enough space for the big wheelie one and its thinner, brighter brother, the blue bin. But I've no idea where I'd keep another one.

It's a problem that has been overlooked. The amount of bins left out on the pavement, day and night around Crookesmoor is a joke, a hindrance and a danger. Whilst I appreciate these premises may have limited room for them I still believe they're left out on the pavement due to lazy-arsed students. (The situation improves in the summer: surely a coincidence?)

Whilst I'm all for recycling (and even I have started taking empty beer bottles to the recycle bins on Old Fulwood Road), the problem of where to place all the necessary bins needs addressing, and pronto.

On my road which is used quite heavily by both pedestrians and cars, our bins cause quite a kerfuffle. They are usually put out the night before (Onyx say they need to be kerbside by 07:00 (and on my street they do come at 07:00!)) and then they are left very untidily by Onyx, then pushed into the nearest front garden by passing pedestrians, prior to my returning home from work to take mine round the back.
The only possible thing that can be done within the current framework is for Onyx to be tidier in putting them back (like that's going to happen).
Personally, I have more important things to worry about than the one day a week slalom up my road. A small inconvenience for the fact that my rubbish is taken away.
The only possible improvement I could suggest would be to mark out a parking-bay sized part of the road as a Wheelie Zone where the neighbourhood could all put their bins. This would simplify/expedite collection/return of the bins, and it would not obstruct the pavement. However, can you imagine the outcry of the owner of the house outside of which this area would be created? And they'd be people who won't wheel their bin the extra few metres I guess.
Just a thought.

The Wheelie Zone is a good idea, but as you say it would probably cause more problems than it would stop. We should think ourselves lucky in much of Spain you don't have your own bin just a big one at the end or the steet (or nearby street) that is emtied daily.