Should ronaldo stay with Man utd or leave?

great player but in my opinion if he wants to go let him!!
so many players have gone to Real madrid and flopped , what do ya all think?

If he wants to go let him go
Is no good keeping a player against his will and apparantley its always been his ambition to play for Madrid
Man Utd get 50/60/70 odd million,Real get the best player in the world and Ronaldo gets his dream and to be honest he deserves it,he cant do nothing more than he has already done at Man Utd

He can shove it in my opinion. To be honest, as a United fan I have always known that Real are "his dream", and for most Latinos it probably is.


Ronaldo has never been as popular with us fans as he might otherwise have been -he has never really "got it" about United/Manchester the city in the same way that Cantona did.
He always felt like an outsider - a very good outsider mind you!

Club wise he might be one of the best in the world but National side he was pretty average IMO. Didn't really stand out for me in the Euros.
Sir Alex should take the money and put it to good use. Plenty more Ronaldo's and better around for a lot less dosh.
Prem teams need players who want to play there and not b***er off after they have won a few trophies. There's a lot to be said for the Giggs, Keanes, Nevilles and Ollie Gunnars of the game.

If he wants to go let him go
Is no good keeping a player against his will and apparantley its always been his ambition to play for Madrid
Man Utd get 50/60/70 odd million,Real get the best player in the world and Ronaldo gets his dream and to be honest he deserves it,he cant do nothing more than he has already done at Man Utd

Just out of curiosity, what more can he get from Real? Do players want to win the league and CL with different clubs, Is it desirable to win the same trophies at a different club and does Ronaldo realise that he will have to compete more for his place at a club like Real?

Just out of curiosity, what more can he get from Real? Do players want to win the league and CL with different clubs, Is it desirable to win the same trophies at a different club and does Ronaldo realise that he will have to compete more for his place at a club like Real?

For a Portuguese player, quality of life and closeness to friends and family are surely just as big factors. Besides which, he's already achieved pretty much all he could do in the English league; the only challenge were he to stay would be to do the same things over and over again.

Ronaldo went to school in the sec mod in Campanario in Madeira. We lived near there. Real Madrid are a fantastic team but not too many Madierans are in love with Spain.

The fact is, that in the end, he is another overpaid player who overvalues his own worth....He signed a new 4 year contract at Man Utd and he should be prepared to honour it. It just goes to show the value of the average Madeiran. Money first last and centre. Anything left over? Money again. I lived there and I know the mentality. Alex should make the Bast**d stay and then see the resolve of Madrid.

Fair enough, but he does come from Portugal. So how do you account for Jockeys, for example, doing the same races year in year out or rugby players playing for the same club and trophies every year.
It won't be so easy at Real getting CL trophy and if he falls flat on his face like another Man Utd player did then I suppose there is USA. ;)

This was in reply to Basil, should have used quote.

Ronaldo typifies everything that is wrong with the modern game and the Premier League.

Me, me, me and money, money, money.

No loyalty, no connection with the working class routes the game was built on and detached from the Real World. Indeed, a genuine contempt toward the largely (though diminishing) working class who pay his wages.

Two fingers to Sir Alex and to the many thousands who have enjoyed watching a technically gifted young man ply his trade.

Whilst Man U will get a good price ('good price' = ridiculously over-inflated fee) and no doubt put it to good use, for the guy's attitude alone he should be made to sit on the bench at a late November reserves match against the likes of Tranmere.

But we all know, money talks.

Let him go. His behaviour has been despicable these past weeks and he's shown a total disrespect for the club and fans.

I'd like to see him go for £40m + Sneijder (and/or Casillas) - just so that his bloated ego doesn't explode from the burden of the tag of "World's most expensive footballer".

Ronaldo typifies everything that is wrong with the modern game and the Premier League.

Me, me, me and money, money, money.

No loyalty, no connection with the working class routes the game was built on and detached from the Real World. Indeed, a genuine contempt toward the largely (though diminishing) working class who pay his wages.

Two fingers to Sir Alex and to the many thousands who have enjoyed watching a technically gifted young man ply his trade.

Whilst Man U will get a good price ('good price' = ridiculously over-inflated fee) and no doubt put it to good use, for the guy's attitude alone he should be made to sit on the bench at a late November reserves match against the likes of Tranmere.

But we all know, money talks.

So if you were offered a job better than the one you're doing now for much more money and far closer to home, I take it you'd turn it down on principle?

And do you seriously think a significant proportion of the prawn-sandwich munching, executive-box dwelling, middle-class, Surrey-based gloryhunters that fill out Old Trafford every other week are working class?

So if you were offered a job better than the one you're doing now for much more money and far closer to home, I take it you'd turn it down on principle?

And do you seriously think a significant proportion of the prawn-sandwich munching, executive-box dwelling, middle-class, Surrey-based gloryhunters that fill out Old Trafford every other week are working class?

Of course not.

But the 76,000 that regularly fill Old Trafford is still largely made up of the working class fan (although I'd expect this to change in due course).

It's nothing to do with taking a job closer to home. It's about Ronaldo's attitude to his current employers.

In other words, the guy's sheer greed.

On the other hand, let's just enjoy the schadenfreude; I don't recall Man Utd fans complaining when the likes of Hargreaves and Tevez were being tapped up approached by their club last summer.

In other words, the guy's sheer greed.

Which you've just openly admitted you shared, and done so in such a way that you appear to find it bizarre that other people would not share. So why are you criticizing Ronaldo for having an attitude that you both have, and expect?

Which you've just openly admitted you shared, and done so in such a way that you appear to find it bizarre that other people would not share. So why are you criticizing Ronaldo for having an attitude that you both have, and expect?


Where have I done such?

Just out of curiosity, what more can he get from Real? Do players want to win the league and CL with different clubs, Is it desirable to win the same trophies at a different club and does Ronaldo realise that he will have to compete more for his place at a club like Real?

He can win the CL with 2 different clubs which not many players have done
He gets the chance to play a totally differrent type of football than in England which can only improve his game
If the reports are true he will get more wages at Madrid (good or bad it is always an issue with footballers nowadays)
He gets to fullfill a dream and play for the club he always wanted to play for

And can you seriously see a player of Ronaldo's ability having to fight for his place?
Madrid aint gonna shell out 50/60/70 million and let him get splinters in his backside

And given the choice where would you rather live?
Manchester.........wet/windy/dull and hundreds of miles away from your family
Madrid........Sunny,Beautiful and a hell of a lot closer to your family

Where have I done such?

"If you were offered a job better than the one you're doing now for much more money and far closer to home, I take it you'd turn it down out of principle?"

"Of course not."


And yet you seem to think that Ronaldo should. Why?

And given the choice where would you rather live?
Manchester.........wet/windy/dull and hundreds of miles away from your family
Madrid........Sunny,Beautiful and a hell of a lot closer to your family

Difficult choice that isn't it :hihi::hihi:

It's more the way it's happened that I don't like - especially Scolari advising the top player of Chelsea's main rivals to leave - but I think Man Utd as guilty as anyone else when it comes to tapping up players.

Thanks for the wrist slap BullDog ;). Let me put it this way, Arshavin worked his A**e off for Russia and helped them get into the semi finals, IMO he is, at this point in time, a better player than Ronaldo, worth less and grafts for his team. Whereas Ronaldo is a glory hunting, spoilt brat who should be man enough to honour a contract he signed. Real Madrid should be heavily fined for encouraging him to break said contract, and there should be a cap on wages and transfer fees. And before you all start, I bet you are all moaning about the price of petrol. It got to that price exactly the same way players wages and transfer fees did, Greedy Agents/Traders, they are one and the same.
If fans had the bottle to not turn up for a few games then the clubs might take note and think about how greedy they are. Wouldn't hurt to watch highlights on MOTD for a few weeks.;)

He can win the CL with 2 different clubs which not many players have done
He gets the chance to play a totally differrent type of football than in England which can only improve his game
If the reports are true he will get more wages at Madrid (good or bad it is always an issue with footballers nowadays)
He gets to fullfill a dream and play for the club he always wanted to play for

And can you seriously see a player of Ronaldo's ability having to fight for his place?
Madrid aint gonna shell out 50/60/70 million and let him get splinters in his backside

And given the choice where would you rather live?
Manchester.........wet/windy/dull and hundreds of miles away from your family
Madrid........Sunny,Beautiful and a hell of a lot closer to your family




I cant help feel Scolari in charge of portugal told him to go there this coming season, so it gives Chelsea who he now manages a better chance of winning the premier league. Or is it me just being suspicious

I cant help feel Scolari in charge of portugal told him to go there this coming season, so it gives Chelsea who he now manages a better chance of winning the premier league. Or is it me just being suspicious

I think it's just you being your username. I don't believe you think that Man Utd - Ronaldo = Chelsea winning Prem.:rolleyes:

Thanks for the wrist slap BullDog ;). Let me put it this way, Arshavin worked his A**e off for Russia and helped them get into the semi finals, IMO he is, at this point in time, a better player than Ronaldo, worth less and grafts for his team. Whereas Ronaldo is a glory hunting, spoilt brat who should be man enough to honour a contract he signed. Real Madrid should be heavily fined for encouraging him to break said contract, and there should be a cap on wages and transfer fees. And before you all start, I bet you are all moaning about the price of petrol. It got to that price exactly the same way players wages and transfer fees did, Greedy Agents/Traders, they are one and the same.
If fans had the bottle to not turn up for a few games then the clubs might take note and think about how greedy they are. Wouldn't hurt to watch highlights on MOTD for a few weeks.;)


Totally agree,except about Arshavin being a better player,will reserve judgement on that one for now but agreed he is a proper quality player

Yes Madrid should be fined but if you fine Madrid then you fine god knows how many other clubs for tapping up players illegaly

Yes a wage cap would be a damn good idea but clubs will always find a way around that by offering bigger bonuses

And tbh id rather watch the highlights on MOTD

I cant help feel Scolari in charge of portugal told him to go there this coming season, so it gives Chelsea who he now manages a better chance of winning the premier league. Or is it me just being suspicious

If i told you to go and jump under a bus would you do it???
It was known by everyone that once the tournament finished Scolari would be leaving Portugal therefore Ronaldo's association with Scolari ends
All this rubbish about Scolari advising Ronaldo to leave just because he is taking charge of chelsea is just that.....RUBBISH

Thanks for the wrist slap BullDog ;). Let me put it this way, Arshavin worked his A**e off for Russia and helped them get into the semi finals, IMO he is, at this point in time, a better player than Ronaldo, worth less and grafts for his team.
Oh come off it you can't make such judgements off 3 or 4 games in an international competition. Just look at Luca Toni for example, going off Euro 2008 you'd think he was rubbish but he's clearly an excellent player.

Ronaldo scored almost as many club goals last season (42) as Arshavin has in his entire career (47), when Arshavin has scored 20+ goals a year for several years running in a top European league and played a crucial part in his team winning pretty much everything there is to win then perhaps we can say he's better than Ronaldo.

Ronaldo is obviously a real jerk but he's at the moment arguably the single best footballer in the world (Arshavin isn't even close) and as long as he keeps doing the job on the pitch I'd like him to stay.

I don't remember people complaining about Manchester United or Ronaldo when he left his last club.

"If you were offered a job better than the one you're doing now for much more money and far closer to home, I take it you'd turn it down out of principle?"

"Of course not."


And yet you seem to think that Ronaldo should. Why?

The 'of course not' refers to the second paragraph: "And do you seriously think a significant proportion of the prawn-sandwich munching, executive-box dwelling, middle-class, Surrey-based gloryhunters that fill out Old Trafford every other week are working class?"

Looks like Ronaldo leaving will have not only affect the UK..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9RsQg1dnwiY

In reply to our French friend I should have said Arshavin is a better International player than Ronaldo is. The bigger the stage the bigger the flop, mind you he hasn't got his Utd mates around him and he has to play alongside players from Chelsea and Arsenal, that's got to sting a bit. ;)

In reply to our French friend I should have said Arshavin is a better International player than Ronaldo is.
Ronaldo was certainly somewhat disappointing this competition but he was one of Portugal's best players in the last world cup and scored lots of goals in the qualifying campaign, he has a more than respectable international record. What's Arshavin's record outside this Euro 2008?

The bigger the stage the bigger the flop, mind you he hasn't got his Utd mates around him and he has to play alongside players from Chelsea and Arsenal, that's got to sting a bit. ;)
He scored against Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool last season and in the Champions League final (and was the top scorer in that competition as well as in the Premier League) that not a big enough stage for you?

Just think about it this way if the football pixie granted you the wish of either Arshavin magically becoming English (or Scottish I suppose going off your name) and signing for your team are you really saying you'd take Arshavin over Ronaldo?

When you buy a dog you look at temperament as well as quality, If Ronaldo leaves Man Utd now then he will have bitten the hand that fed him.
I would be flattered If someone who is not Scottish wished they were, but I have no wish for anyone who is not Scottish to be Scottish. Anyways we whopped your A**e in the qualifying stages.:hihi::hihi:

I would be flattered If someone who is not Scottish wished they were

Whereas most people would have serious doubts about the state of their mental health :hihi::hihi:

Whereas most people would have serious doubts about the state of their mental health :hihi::hihi:


Doesn't Rod Stewart tick all the boxes here?:hihi:

When you buy a dog you look at temperament as well as quality, If Ronaldo leaves Man Utd now then he will have bitten the hand that fed him.
I would be flattered If someone who is not Scottish wished they were, but I have no wish for anyone who is not Scottish to be Scottish. Anyways we whopped your A**e in the qualifying stages.:hihi::hihi:
The football pixie is magic and at the wave of their wand Arshavin or Ronaldo would always have been Scottish, they'd have been born there to scottish parents they wouldn't 'wish to be Scottish' (that would just be insane) they would simply be Scottish, their footballing abilities would be unchanged.

So who would you honestly rather had always been Scottish and playing for Scotland Arshavin or Ronaldo?

He's Not Going Anywhere

Ronaldo signed a 4 year contract in 2006 and said "United have stood by me and been there for me and I want to repay that".
This was just after he and Ruud Van N had fallen out over who played where.
Granted he is a good player, but when he doesn't win then the Dummy gets chucked out big time. He dives, he gets people sent off and he stops grafting.
So no I wouldn't want him on my team, I'd choose Arshavin.
Ironically it is a Scotsman who manages him, wonder how he would get on with a German. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP0RHPDoUYc:hihi:

I think he should follow the money.

Ronaldo owes Fergie (and others) a little bit more, just for them stopping Rooney ripping his head off after he cheated for Portugal.
Going forward, I like Ronaldo, but jeez, if he loses the ball, he makes no effort whatsoever to get it back. Again, if he loses the ball, 9 times out of 10, he dives (rarely gets booked for it)
He lets proper players like Scholes do all the running and grafting, then he enters in to a 5 yard 'sprint', loses the ball, appeals, then strolls around like he's taking the dog for a walk. He's absolutely bone idle. Yeah, he can look really classy for 30 seconds, then .... nothin'.
I'm not sure that, if he does stay, he'll repeat his scoring prowess. If I were Fergie, after how this whole business has been conducted by Ronaldo (if you can believe the papers), I'd stick him in the reserves to rot. Let's not get carried away by Arshavin,... he's not as good as people are saying, but his groundbait has attracted Barca, and it looks like he's on his way. We'll see how he does in Spain. Should Ronaldo go to Real? ..... yes, but not until Fergie has taught him a big fat lesson on how to behave. I can't stand Man U, they are probably the most guilty team in the world for 'tapping' players, but that doesn't mean that they can't show some backbone when it's needed. You don't f**k with Sir Alex!

Let me put it this way, Arshavin worked his A**e off for Russia and helped them get into the semi finals, he's worth less and grafts for his team. Whereas Ronaldo is a glory hunting, spoilt brat. There should be a cap on wages and transfer fees. And before you all start, I bet you are all moaning about the price of petrol. It got to that price exactly the same way players wages and transfer fees did, Greedy Agents/Traders, they are one and the same.

I 100% agree with this edited version of Scotties post.

Me too and I would also prefer him staying in Manchester because what Ronaldo might forget is that another reason why he could perform like that in the last season was that he had an incredible defense working behind him to give him the chance for his moments to shine.

Me too and I would also prefer him staying in Manchester because what Ronaldo might forget is that another reason why he could perform like that in the last season was that he had an incredible defense working behind him to give him the chance for his moments to shine.

Ferdinand,Vidic,Evra ect had nothing to with Ronaldo's success last season
Scholes,Giggs,Carrick,Fletcher,Anderson,Nani ect all played in front of the back 4 and had nowhere near as a good a season as Ronaldo did.
The kid is a quality player and would shine in front of any defence in the prem

I cant help feel Scolari in charge of portugal told him to go there this coming season, so it gives Chelsea who he now manages a better chance of winning the premier league. Or is it me just being suspicious

very good point...if you can`t buy him yourself just make sure he is in a different league to you!!!

Thanks for the wrist slap BullDog ;). Let me put it this way, Arshavin worked his A**e off for Russia and helped them get into the semi finals, IMO he is, at this point in time, a better player than Ronaldo, worth less and grafts for his team. Whereas Ronaldo is a glory hunting, spoilt brat who should be man enough to honour a contract he signed. Real Madrid should be heavily fined for encouraging him to break said contract, and there should be a cap on wages and transfer fees. And before you all start, I bet you are all moaning about the price of petrol. It got to that price exactly the same way players wages and transfer fees did, Greedy Agents/Traders, they are one and the same.
If fans had the bottle to not turn up for a few games then the clubs might take note and think about how greedy they are. Wouldn't hurt to watch highlights on MOTD for a few weeks.;)

The Only Problem with "Not Turning up" is that there are thosuands more people who would just take the place of people who decide not to buy tickets plus a large portion will be season tickets holder who are not likely to miss 3/4 games when they have paid Hundreds of pounds to watch 19 Games!

More Money comes from Sponsership,Selling Players, Mechandise, Corporate Events etc! It is not the players or the management's fault! It is simply a normal transession that happened to loads of companies in the 90s through innovative ideas! Just cause a club is sucessfull off the pitch as well as on it why should it be criticised!

Anyway Everyone knows the "real fans" are the away fans who spred their money all over the countries teams!

and funny how the "Smaller" Teams never seem to complain when they draw the big guns in the cup and get 50% of 60,000+ Gate receipts + TV Money! that keep them going for many years!

Ronaldo should stay, he has become the player he is through the help and patience of those around him at Man Utd. Yeah he's a spoilt brat - he's a footballer, it goes with the territory (hehehe - 'cept my lad Scholes, but he's a gem). But he's also great to watch... he's the first player I've seen do stuff to defenders that made me laugh out loud.

And a few more seasons with United will do him no harm. He can move to Madrid later on, he has time on his side.

Oh... and Arshavin? Nah. Good for a few brief spells in a few games but not THAT good. Which reminds me....... [wanders off to start a new thread]...

B-b-but Ronaldo doesn't like being a £6 million a year slave :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Thinks he's best off staying at united

to be honest i couldnt give a flying f**k if he stays or goes, unless we end up playing man u next season in the fa cup then i will have wished that he will have gone