Looking on a 1905 map of Sheffield I noticed a school on the corner of Hodgson Street, Sheffield 3. Was this St. Silas School?
What happened to it please?
Looked on Picture Sheffield for a photo and there are only a couple of photo's and they show the school in the far distance...does anyone have a photo please. Think my Mum went there around 20's.

Cheers....

This is now offices, called St.Silas House. I worked there from 2000 - 2002. Not sure when it stopped being a school, but I do know that the guy that used to do odd jobs for us there was a pupil. I have some pictures somewhere, I'll dig them out.

South Yorkshire Housing Association had their offices there, in that building, about 20 to 22 yrs ago, so it was definitely prior to the early eightes, that it stopped being a school.

Hope that helps

PT

Thanks for replies... would be pleased to see any pictures Chris.
I walked past St. Silas House?? recently and saw someone who looked remarkably like P.T., who, like me, was tryin to negotiate all the roadworks and messy footpaths along Fitzwilliam Street. all clear now tho'

During the War St Silas School was badly damaged during the Blitz and had to close, and all the pupils were transferred to Springfield School on Broomspring Lane where I was attending, and it was closed for some considerable time after.

it probably was me, robbinabobbin, i usually "walk" that way into town / to work etc

and yes I have been having a nightmare of a time, lately, around there trying to get round the roadworks and excavations

PT

Cheers P.T. - next time I will say 'Hi'..... see ya!

Please! do say hello, next time, robbin:- I don't bite!

(unless you ask me VERY nicely! lol)

no seriously, i am a very nice person, really!

I am not proud, I'll talk to anybody! lol ;)

PT

I asked my mum about this as she was brought up in the area and atteneded St Silas church, she said

"Yes I do remember the school and surrounding area but I do not know when it ceased to be a school. I am not sure they are talking about the same building as I seem to think the school was demolished."

Thanks for that Pooh Bear..... The surrounding wall of the building looks much older that that of the St. Silas House itself so maybe your Mom is right.
Dont like to ask a lady's age, but does yr. mum remember Thomas Street or Hodgson Street (sadly most of the old houses are gone now). St. Silas School and Springfield School seem very close together - guess that the population in the S.1. and S.3 areas at that time was very high. I know that there were back to back houses and courts of houses etc. My Mom's family were french polishers and Grandad had a 'little mester's shop'.

Pooh Bear
Could you ask your Mum if she remembers a chip shop on Young St and if she can remember the owners name.

St Silas School actually closed in1979. I left there in 1978. My father also went to the school. It was a primary school. It was bombed during the war but was still on the go.The head teacher when I was there also taught my father in the 1940's (Mr Fovague) He is still alive today.
It was a very old school and was revamped when solicitors took over it after the school was closed. It had pre-war outside toilets up till its closure with no sinks.
There was only 4 classrooms, a kitchen, an office, a library, a dining room, an assembly/PE hall & sinks in the corrider.
I remember the school with fond memories & was sorry to see it close.
If you would like anymore info I will be glad to give.

Originally posted by PoohBear
I asked my mum about this as she was brought up in the area and atteneded St Silas church, she said

"Yes I do remember the school and surrounding area but I do not know when it ceased to be a school. I am not sure they are talking about the same building as I seem to think the school was demolished."
The School was demolished in the 70s along with all the few remaining houses round it. If you look at St Silas House its to high to have been part of the old school, everything went im afraid. The Sheffield artist George Cunningham lived on Hodgson St near the school in fact Im sure he went there.
I worked just up from the school on Headford St.

I beg to differ it was never demolished or what was the school i went to?
It is the same height & shape as it was when i went there.
My father lived on Hodgson street in his youth & I lived on Broomhall flats till 1980, so I think I should know, no offence intended, but I know from 1st hand experience.

I bow to your memory but I can remember a single storey building along Hodgson St, it had a high wall around it and the roof was grey/blue slates but as to the building that is there now, I was just a conclusion as the single storey building has gone or am I wrong.

It did have a high wall but it was definately 2 storeys. The stairs were very steep & high. I remember falling down them carrying a large ornament & cutting my hand. That was in the late 70's. My classroom with Mr Shuffleton (AKA **** shuffle arse)was upstairs. Miss Burgess's classroom was also upstairs but Mrs Pashley's (AKA pish posh pashley) classroom was downstairs.
From the outside it would look like it was 3 storey's high.
Fond memories.

you have convinced me, you are completely correct. sorry

I went to St. Silas from 1951 to 1957. Did you manage to get a photo? An artist who was a neighbour of ours at that time, painted a picture of the school and I have a print. I could send you a copy if you are still interested.
I intend visiting Sheffield within a few weeks and am hoping to go and see what is left of the area and the school. Not much I expect. Does anyone know if Joseph Pickerings cardboard box factory is still there?
By the way, the chip shop on Young Street used to have a monkey which was kept out the back. We used to stop and talk to it on our way home from school. You could see the top of the cage above the wall. Really cute it was.

The single stotey building which you remember was on the other corner of Moore Street and Young Street and was a day nursery. I remember it well.

I went to St Silas school from 1959-62 when they demolished the houses round there.
We lived on Clarence St. but went to Crookes under 'slum clearance' after the Sheffield gales.
We used to play in the old houses....my god -we used to go up to the attics and walk along rafters risking a drop down into the cellar....geez it's a wonder we survived!
I remember Mr Fovargue ,Miss Bunting and Mrs Housley.
Also remember Sharon Greenfield, David Prout, Peter Kelly, Wendy Sayles and a Down's syndrome girl called Judith who we all loved.
I also remember the Dewsnap family, Mr and Mrs Fearn and their daughter Audrey who gave me a doll and pram.
Must stop now.....memories are flooding back !!

The first Saturday League team I played for was called St Silas Imps - around the early seventies. I never knew their history but was told once that they went back some way.

St Silas Church was a beautiful church.
Allways remember new years eve.
Everyone used to go from washington pub and domino pub.
All little bit tiddly LOL.
But no problems
xx

Pooh Bear
Could you ask your Mum if she remembers a chip shop on Young St and if she can remember the owners name.
this might seem an odd question,but that chip shop,did it have a small monkey in the outhouse that was built on to the shop ? my aunt lived on milton street which is /was close to the school and i remember walking from her house to the old co op at the bottom of the moor in the earl 1950's, on the way back she would by me chips that i would hand up to the barred window for the monkey
strange,... but true..:)

The chip shop did have a monkey and it was in a cage on the side of the chip shop,come to think about it i think the chip shop owners son was in the navy and he fetched it home,also along side of saint silas school near swift and goodisons was a police box and when us kids heard the black maria we used to run to see what was happening.

The chip shop did have a monkey and it was in a cage on the side of the chip shop,come to think about it i think the chip shop owners son was in the navy and he fetched it home,also along side of saint silas school near swift and goodisons was a police box and when us kids heard the black maria we used to run to see what was happening.

me dad remembers the monkey he says if you got to near it would have your cap off your head, we lived on hodgson st, grandad lived on milton st nd my uncle used to be the caretaker of st silas school tommy dutton:thumbsup:

My name is Lionel Clarke and I was born at 180 Fitzwilliam Street in October 1944.I spent a year at St.Silas School before my parents moved to Shiregreen in 1949.I think Grannypat asked about Pickerings Cardboard box factory.Well my grandmother,Bertha Colley worked there,as did my mother Mary who used to line boxes.My grandmother Bertha was also married at St.Silas church in 1900.
Hoping this thread is of interest.!

When I was at St. Silas school the head master was a Mr Hill. Mr Fovargue was a teacher along with Miss Warren, Mrs Bunting, Mrs Housley and Mrs Black (or was it White)
I remember when I was in Mrs Housley's class that there was a boy whose name was Brian. He had red hair (is it pc to use that term?) and I think he had a stutter. I seem to think that something happened to him. I remember us saying prayers for him but I didn't understand why. I must only have been about 6 or 7 at the time. I never saw him again but I have never forgotten him and have often wondered what happened to him. Does anyone else remember him?

My friend went to this school whilst I went to Springfield. We lived on Broomhall Flats and I guess there was call for 2 schools when they were up.

my mother says they were called Spears who had the chip shop on Young St & had a daughter as well

Hi All
you all have lovely memories,I rang my mother & she has the same memories,she lived on Hodgson st & had a sister Annie & brothers George & Jimmy,my mother is Beatrice Garrett
if any of you know her it would be lovely to hear from you so I can pass on your memories to her

Hi All
you all have lovely memories,I rang my mother & she has the same memories,she lived on Hodgson st & had a sister Annie & brothers George & Jimmy,my mother is Beatrice Garrett
if any of you know her it would be lovely to hear from you so I can pass on your memories to her

hiya i lived on bath street not a million miles from hodgson st i went to the sunday school just round the corner of clarence st i went there from being around 4 years old until i was 8 yo the first classes were in the cellar the teachers would collect and bring us back home one was portley and the other had ginger hair,. a few years back i read a book by george cunningham the sheffield painter who lived on michaels rd and he went to st silas it is a very good read there are two, george cunningham,and more george, he names names around the area, the books are still in print.

p s i was in the same year as pat and terry parramore, and worked at laycocks the same time as harold broadhurst. there were the hunters eric; and gambles pat;
;greens, maurice, barry,; duckenfields, david, sylvia;lived around hodgson street;

Hi there mother remembers all the names you`ve added,many thanks for that,she`s also got the George Cunningham books as well as all the old Sheffield ones,its lovely for her to reminise from bygone days,she says she cant place you though,sorry about that,did you go to Springfield School ? she seems to think you must have,she didnt.

hiya i lived on bath street not a million miles from hodgson st i went to the sunday school just round the corner of clarence st i went there from being around 4 years old until i was 8 yo the first classes were in the cellar the teachers would collect and bring us back home one was portley and the other had ginger hair,. a few years back i read a book by george cunningham the sheffield painter who lived on michaels rd and he went to st silas it is a very good read there are two, george cunningham,and more george, he names names around the area, the books are still in print.

p s i was in the same year as pat and terry parramore, and worked at laycocks the same time as harold broadhurst. there were the hunters eric; and gambles pat;
;greens, maurice, barry,; duckenfields, david, sylvia;lived around hodgson street;

pat & Terry Parramore are related to my mum

Pooh Bear
Could you ask your Mum if she remembers a chip shop on Young St and if she can remember the owners name.

Hi there
my mum says the owners of the chip shop were called Spears

pat & Terry Parramore are related to my mum

hiya, yes i did go to springfield school 1943-53. i knew the parramores ray,shiela,pat, terry,rita, i think a younger one,my dad played football with their father when they were younger, i remember they lived on havelock square facing filey street, in fact ray, before he died, i would see him in the scarborough pub corner of evans street and milton street, another just come to me was harry maclarence lived on moore street i think. in one of the george cunningham books the name i think harry hill was mentioned well harry was the brother of margaret hill (she was my god mother) (antie maggie) harry and his brother i remember had a stall at the bottom of clarence street on the waste land opposite where he lived. thanks for another memory.

ps just remembered hodgson street was not cobble stoned it was i'm sure wooden blocked which was unusual around the district,the reason was outside the sunday school kids played marbles while waiting for it to open, another piece of useless information i'm sure ah well.

The first Saturday League team I played for was called St Silas Imps - around the early seventies. I never knew their history but was told once that they went back some way.

hiya bonj;
i can go back to the 1940s, the imps were a football team for the older teens i knew a few of the team as they lived mainly around the bromhall district, i think they played in encliffe park, its hard to believe now but i remember the park at rustlings rd on saturday afternoon was packed with football matches.

hiya, yes i did go to springfield school 1943-53. i knew the parramores ray,shiela,pat, terry,rita, i think a younger one,my dad played football with their father when they were younger, i remember they lived on havelock square facing filey street, in fact ray, before he died, i would see him in the scarborough pub corner of evans street and milton street, another just come to me was harry maclarence lived on moore street i think. in one of the george cunningham books the name i think harry hill was mentioned well harry was the brother of margaret hill (she was my god mother) (antie maggie) harry and his brother i remember had a stall at the bottom of clarence street on the waste land opposite where he lived. thanks for another memory.

ps just remembered hodgson street was not cobble stoned it was i'm sure wooden blocked which was unusual around the district,the reason was outside the sunday school kids played marbles while waiting for it to open, another piece of useless information i'm sure ah well.

Hi Willybite
mother still cant place you,even as Wilbur ? she asked what your surname is ?
she asks if you knew her brother Georgie Garrett,he used to go camping with Harold Broadhurst,Norman Cocker,though she says he died young & Dennis Smith,she seems to think he also lived on Bath St.
they lived opposite Inmans Bake House near the Sunday School,she used to go & says it was held in a little upstairs room
she cant place the Hills though I think mother is older than you,the youngest Parramore was Paul
she remembers Hodgson St being made of wooden blocks & said the poor horses had a bad time of it in Winter as they`d slide about.
mother is visiting on Tuesday so maybe she will be able to share some more memories with you when she reads these pages,many thanks for your time.

Hi Willybite
mother still cant place you,even as Wilbur ? she asked what your surname is ?
she asks if you knew her brother Georgie Garrett,he used to go camping with Harold Broadhurst,Norman Cocker,though she says he died young & Dennis Smith,she seems to think he also lived on Bath St.
they lived opposite Inmans Bake House near the Sunday School,she used to go & says it was held in a little upstairs room
she cant place the Hills though I think mother is older than you,the youngest Parramore was Paul
she remembers Hodgson St being made of wooden blocks & said the poor horses had a bad time of it in Winter as they`d slide about.
mother is visiting on Tuesday so maybe she will be able to share some more memories with you when she reads these pages,many thanks for your time.
hiya
the only smith i can think of about my age was terry he'll be 70 now he had two cousins called pat and sylvia smith we all went around together in our teens,like dances,glossop, city hall,abbeydale, and pictures.does she remember the one i think his name might have been peter, who used to practice his trombone in the attic down clarence st just before hodgson st he was 3 or 4 years older than me. i enjoy all of this thread .my name is bill white and am 71 doubt your able to recognise me. mind it is 50 years ago we're on about and some find it hard to recall the 80s bye

ps just remembererd their uncle stan smith he lived on bath st

the name (sorry it wasn't tonks it was danks michael i think), some of the names just keep popping up when i start thinking of a district, or somebody's name, again there was a picture in the school hall at springfield with two sisters they were
swimmers the name was bronks and i think they lived around hodgson or milton streets.

hiya
the only smith i can think of about my age was terry he'll be 70 now he had two cousins called pat and sylvia smith we all went around together in our teens,like dances,glossop, city hall,abbeydale, and pictures.does she remember the one i think his name might have been peter, who used to practice his trombone in the attic down clarence st just before hodgson st he was 3 or 4 years older than me. i enjoy all of this thread .my name is bill white and am 71 doubt your able to recognise me. mind it is 50 years ago we're on about and somefind it hard to recall the 80s bye

hi Willybite
mother is 78 so you may not know each other,she used to love going dancing & to the pictures,i ll be talking to her later at tea time

anyone got any pics

St Silas Church was a beautiful church.
Allways remember new years eve.
Everyone used to go from washington pub and domino pub.
All little bit tiddly LOL.
But no problems
xx

hiya just been reading my 1895 street directory and i came across a mention of the erected cost of st silas church in 1869 was about £18,000
heres a few more
st johns park hill,cost 1836-8, £3,500.
st georges broad lane,cost 1812-5 £14,819
.st marys bramall lane cost 1830 £12,690.

Pooh Bear
Could you ask your Mum if she remembers a chip shop on Young St and if she can remember the owners name.

hi there
the owners name was pierce
lived 5 doors away
lovely chips

I went to St. Silas from 1951 to 1957. Did you manage to get a photo? An artist who was a neighbour of ours at that time, painted a picture of the school and I have a print. I could send you a copy if you are still interested.
I intend visiting Sheffield within a few weeks and am hoping to go and see what is left of the area and the school. Not much I expect. Does anyone know if Joseph Pickerings cardboard box factory is still there?
By the way, the chip shop on Young Street used to have a monkey which was kept out the back. We used to stop and talk to it on our way home from school. You could see the top of the cage above the wall. Really cute it was.

the monkeys name was judy
the chip shop was
pierces

hiya, yes i did go to springfield school 1943-53. i knew the parramores ray,shiela,pat, terry,rita, i think a younger one,my dad played football with their father when they were younger, i remember they lived on havelock square facing filey street, in fact ray, before he died, i would see him in the scarborough pub corner of evans street and milton street, another just come to me was harry maclarence lived on moore street i think. in one of the george cunningham books the name i think harry hill was mentioned well harry was the brother of margaret hill (she was my god mother) (antie maggie) harry and his brother i remember had a stall at the bottom of clarence street on the waste land opposite where he lived. thanks for another memory.

ps just remembered hodgson street was not cobble stoned it was i'm sure wooden blocked which was unusual around the district,the reason was outside the sunday school kids played marbles while waiting for it to open, another piece of useless information i'm sure ah well.

harry mc clarence was a boxer he had a younger brother arthur used to spar with arthur another name you might remember was michael barnes
old friends from the past

My name is Lionel Clarke and I was born at 180 Fitzwilliam Street in October 1944.I spent a year at St.Silas School before my parents moved to Shiregreen in 1949.I think Grannypat asked about Pickerings Cardboard box factory.Well my grandmother,Bertha Colley worked there,as did my mother Mary who used to line boxes.My grandmother Bertha was also married at St.Silas church in 1900.
Hoping this thread is of interest.!

Hi very interesting. my great grandparents lived on Hodgson St and the Bath Hotel my grandma was married at St Silas church in 1914 and my dad went to St Silas school. by coincidence I went to the nursery at the side of the school. I remember camp beds and a 2-30 sleep. my great aunts used to make up boxes for Pickerings in their own homes.

i also went 2 st silas and lived on the broomhall flats until the end bout 85 ish my nan then auntie worked at the papershop,cant remember when the school closed but we ended up goin 2 portercroft 4 the last couple of year but i know its still there go past it every sat in taxi 2 town i cant believe Mr Fovague is still alive thought he was bout 90 when we were there,and mrs pashley was goin bit mental at the end of every day she would but the birdy song on n makes us all do the actions to that they were good times,i still c a few people frm there,there was the funeral place across the road and a snooker hall across frm there.

ye i've got some of the fancy dress im trying 2 put them on facebook,ps wot row did u live on?i lived 13 headford row underneath was the council works

i also went 2 st silas and lived on the broomhall flats until the end bout 85 ish my nan then auntie worked at the papershop,cant remember when the school closed but we ended up goin 2 portercroft 4 the last couple of year but i know its still there go past it every sat in taxi 2 town i cant believe Mr Fovague is still alive thought he was bout 90 when we were there,and mrs pashley was goin bit mental at the end of every day she would but the birdy song on n makes us all do the actions to that they were good times,i still c a few people frm there,there was the funeral place across the road and a snooker hall across frm there.

hiya i remember the undertakers swift and goodison but not a snooker hall in my time 40/60s we used the ones in cambridge st or cross burgess st.

hiya i remember the undertakers swift and goodison but not a snooker hall in my time 40/60s we used the ones in cambridge st or cross burgess st.

ye im talking bout late 70s early 80s so must have been something else b4 that,the snooker hall on cambridge street burnt down if i can remember or the building nxt 2 it

I went to Saint Silas School around 1972 (ish) as when I left I started in year 3 at a middle school ... confused at the timeline ... i would have been 8 or 9 around that time.

I remember the building as it was and have seen it a fair few times since it closed and was turned into offices.

From what I remember having been there since ..is the original stone steps are still in use and are looking as they did way back when I attended ( bowed in the aread where years of feet have trodden ) :rolleyes:

One thing I also remember about the shool was the sinks and the dining room ... fond memories of the dinners being delivered and I allways had the job of dishing out so had many well fed friends LOL

The toilets if I remember rightly were at that time only used on the left side (looking in from the school gate at the Funeral Directors side ) and the ones on the other side was pretty much in disrepair.

On the top of the used ones I remember a couple of Tombstones ...I still have no idea who was burried there .. but they must have been relocated when the toilets were eventually demolished.

Ahhhh Mr Vavarge (sp ? ) was the only teacher to have ever had the pleasure of smacking my bum ... after finding a butter knife in the school yard with its handle missing and strutting around the entrance like the cocky little boy I was ... till a teacher asked for it ...I refused and the head snatched it from me ...:D

another thing just popped in my head about the yards ... there were 2 ... and 2 gates that said BOYS and GIRLS respectively ...I remember the gate I mentioned earlier as the only one in use ...i cant remember if it was the BOYS or GIRLS ... seems strange for such a small school...

I will stop there ... much more memories flooding in.

Christopher Jones .

bet i know scrinthe..lol .. ..

bet i know scrinthe..lol .. ..

Hmmmm.

I was the one chasing the girls all the time :hihi:

I know the original post is a old one but i have only just got started on the web and found this post I too went to ST Silas or St Silly Lasses as we called it as kids Mr Hill was the head and a BULLY of a teacher called Mr ASKAM just wish i could have come across him in my teens as a youngster i was a little bugger and went through the front door then straight out of the back i hated school full stop but our MR ASKAM if ever i needed to go to the toilets would escort me there dont forget this was infant school at this time and i would be around 8 9 10yr old at the time he used to thump me without anyone knowing in the outside toilets also he used to push me into the corner of my desk i did hear a story that in later years he was struck off but i never found out if this was true or not the friends i can remember from around that time are Mick Green,Mick & Bob Mullins they lived in the house next to the school on Hodgson st i seem to remember a stable at the bottom of the yard where a onion seller stored his onions Ray Price,Dave Pegg,Pete & John (rip) Carnell the Higginbottoms Pat Critchlow ,Don Wainwright, Paul Mangle Linda Batty,Elaine Dewsnap,Gloria Baily,Eric Moles who also had a monkey i remember the chippy on Young st with the monkey in the cage at the side of it i also remember people who lived on Bishop st the Williamsons,Roger Kay ,Kath Fowler i lived on Clarence st near the bottom my Dad was also well known in the area my Grandad lived on Hodgson st and had a small holding at Meadowhead my dad used to go round collecting any old food put in bins SWILL as it was called for the pigs that were kept on the smallholding and if any kids brought any out to him he always had a pocket full of dolly mixtures to hand out he also used to drink in the Sportsman pub known locally as the TWO STEPS also opposite in the Vine which also had a stable in the back yard i was taken at a very young age into both the pubs mentioned and many more besides if anyone has got any feed back on any of the people mentioned i would be most grateful i have seen Paul Paramore's name mentioned a was also big friends with him until losing contact some yrs ago i knew Paul when he lived on Bramall lane.

By the way, the chip shop on Young Street used to have a monkey which was kept out the back. We used to stop and talk to it on our way home from school. You could see the top of the cage above the wall. Really cute it was.[/QUOTE]
i remember him, he was gorgeous,but so cruel to keep him caged.

st.silas pupils & us from st.matthias & pomona st. schools all went to greystones sec.mod, theres a forum on here for that school.So u may find people u knew there.

I know the original post is a old one but i have only just got started on the web and found this post I too went to ST Silas or St Silly Lasses as we called it as kids Mr Hill was the head and a BULLY of a teacher called Mr ASKAM just wish i could have come across him in my teens as a youngster i was a little bugger and went through the front door then straight out of the back i hated school full stop but our MR ASKAM if ever i needed to go to the toilets would escort me there dont forget this was infant school at this time and i would be around 8 9 10yr old at the time he used to thump me without anyone knowing in the outside toilets also he used to push me into the corner of my desk i did hear a story that in later years he was struck off but i never found out if this was true or not the friends i can remember from around that time are Mick Green,Mick & Bob Mullins they lived in the house next to the school on Hodgson st i seem to remember a stable at the bottom of the yard where a onion seller stored his onions Ray Price,Dave Pegg,Pete & John (rip) Carnell the Higginbottoms Pat Critchlow ,Don Wainwright, Paul Mangle Linda Batty,Elaine Dewsnap,Gloria Baily,Eric Moles who also had a monkey i remember the chippy on Young st with the monkey in the cage at the side of it i also remember people who lived on Bishop st the Williamsons,Roger Kay ,Kath Fowler i lived on Clarence st near the bottom my Dad was also well known in the area my Grandad lived on Hodgson st and had a small holding at Meadowhead my dad used to go round collecting any old food put in bins SWILL as it was called for the pigs that were kept on the smallholding and if any kids brought any out to him he always had a pocket full of dolly mixtures to hand out he also used to drink in the Sportsman pub known locally as the TWO STEPS also opposite in the Vine which also had a stable in the back yard i was taken at a very young age into both the pubs mentioned and many more besides if anyone has got any feed back on any of the people mentioned i would be most grateful i have seen Paul Paramore's name mentioned a was also big friends with him until losing contact some yrs ago i knew Paul when he lived on Bramall lane.

hya you brought back a memory for me about the man who collected the swill for the pigs i maybe wrong but i think he would come round on the friday but never knew his name but i think my mum or my gran knew it as i was only a boy, always puzzled me about what pigs would eat as he would collect all peeligs leftover veg allsorts of leftover food, remember no fridges in those days only cellar head, and the stone flag in the cellar.and the two steps pub never knew the name just two steps,by the way i lived on bath street.
p.s. just thinking about this that i had written last night and the name mark hewitt came to me also i knew a jack hewitt i worked with many years ago i wondered if he was from your family as he once asked me my roots and when i said bath street he said when he was at school he lived on chester street at the grey horse pub got me thinking also he went in the cremorn pub around 40 years ago

Anyone remember my dad & his family. Eric Hancock lived on Hodgson Street & went to St.Silas, had 3 sisters.
I went there in the 70's lived on Broomhall Flats, same surname as myn bfather if anyone recognises us.

Anyone remember my dad & his family. Eric Hancock lived on Hodgson Street & went to St.Silas, had 3 sisters.
I went there in the 70's lived on Broomhall Flats, same surname as myn bfather if anyone recognises us.
hiya
i dont know if it was your dad but i remember eric hancock but when i knew them they lived in headford street near bradleys chip shop at the corner of eggerton street i remember eric he went in the dog and gun pub at the corner of bath street the street i lived on he had a son eric and i think a daughter, young eric was around my age birth around 1940, there was the harry eades family also brian glaves family,harold broadhurst family barry,peter hibbard's family. brian charlesworth family,

hya you brought back a memory for me about the man who collected the swill for the pigs i maybe wrong but i think he would come round on the friday but never knew his name but i think my mum or my gran knew it as i was only a boy, always puzzled me about what pigs would eat as he would collect all peelings leftover veg all sorts of leftover food, remember no fridges in those days only cellar head, and the stone flag in the cellar.and the two steps never knew the name just two steps,by the way i lived on bath street.
p.s. just thinking about this that i had written last night and the name mark hewitt came to me also i knew a jack hewitt i worked with many years ago i wondered if he was from your family as he once asked me my roots and when i said bath street he said when he was at school he lived on chester street at the grey horse pub got me thinking also he went in the cremorne pub around 40 years ago

Thanks for the reply Willybite Mark Hewitt was my Grandad he lived on Hodgson st Jack Hewitt was my DAD i was named after him we lived on Clarence st near the bottom end the front door was on Clarence st but never used we always went in through the the yard on Michael rd if you think you worked with me i worked for the Sheffield Council as a driver for around 24yrs left in 1990 moved onto the Broomhall flats after the slum clearance then onto the tower blocks at the bottom of Cemetery rd Leverton gardens i used all the pubs up and down London rd including the Cremorne like my DAD was iam a well known face around Sheffield but now live in the W/Midlands i also used to work the doors at the Locarno,Vickers,Tiffanys etc many years ago.

Thanks for the reply Willybite Mark Hewitt was my Grandad he lived on Hodgson st Jack Hewitt was my DAD i was named after him we lived on Clarence st near the bottom end the front door was on Clarence st but never used we always went in through the the yard on Michael rd if you think you worked with me i worked for the Sheffield Council as a driver for around 24yrs left in 1990 moved onto the Broomhall flats after the slum clearance then onto the tower blocks at the bottom of Cemetery rd Leverton gardens i used all the pubs up and down London rd including the Cremorne like my DAD was iam a well known face around Sheffield but now live in the W/Midlands i also used to work the doors at the Locarno,Vickers,Tiffanys etc many years ago.

hiya jack willybite here, sorry if you thought that i worked with you but the jack hewitt i meant was older than me by 10/15 years i'm 72 now.that jack went to springfield school in the 1930s,interesting what you wrote about the bottom of clarence street my godmother and her family lived near you they were called hill margaret, brother harry, and another brother, they had a friut and veg stall on the spare ground at the corner of clarence st and ecclesall road in the 40s
sorry i've just re read your letter and the jack hewitt i wrote about worked at laycock eng archer rd was it your dad ?

My mum went to St Silas's in the late 50's, does anyone remember the Crofts, Ken and Vera with daughters Hazel and Jean, Ken was one of Sheffield's Little Mesters and had his own little workshop at Beehive works just around the corner from St Silas school, they lived on Bramhall lane, then moved to Lowedges when the old back to backs got demolished. xxx

hiya jack will bite here, sorry if you thought that i worked with you but the jack hewitt i meant was older than me by 10/15 years i'm 72 now.that jack went to springfield school in the 1930s,interesting what you wrote about the bottom of clarence street my godmother and her family lived near you they were called hill margaret, brother harry, and another brother, they had a fruit and veg stall on the spare ground at the corner of clarence st and ecclesall road in the 40s
sorry i've just re read your letter and the jack hewitt i wrote about worked at laycock eng archer rd was it your dad ?

Sorry Willybite that it has taken so long to reply to your question no my dad Jack Hewitt was a steeplejack by trade until the last six months of his life he left HARRISONS STEEPLEJACKS to work for Jimmy Child's demolition he got killed at work by a crane that overturned by trying to lift too much weight at Glasshoughton colliery Castleford in the early 60s i'am afraid i dont remember which school he went to but the age you mention seem to add up i hope that helps you.

I went to St Silas has a kid and left in 1981 at the age of 10, remember that year making banners and going to the town hall and walking in the roads shouting Save our School, never made any difference obviously. Regarding it turning into offices, have been once or twice and has soon has you walk in, the stairs are still directly to left of the entrance, I don't think any major alterations have been made to the structure and the inside.

The only teacher I remember is the Headmaster Mr Vavarg, may be spelt incorrectly but sounds right. He retired whislt I was still there.

And going back to dinner in the big dining room, which probably was never actually big, its just that we were smaller, just like I remember all the chocolate bars being bigger when I was smaller. Going off subject abit there, LOL. I remember always wanting the skin from the top of the custard in those large metal jugs and can't say I've had pink custard since leaving primary.

Remember the school yard, reason for this is, can you remember the large white porcalian plant pots that where scattered at the far wall? well I do because when it was playtime I would get on my imaginary horse and trot around the yard, jumping over the plant pots, this was whilst my best friend and other friends were doing hand stands (I could never do these) flashing their knickers as their dresses fell over their faces, wearing knickers with the days of the week on and wearing Fridays on a Tuesday, Lol
Well what happened to me on one occasion and probably my last time, was I went smack face first after catching my foot as jumping over and one of my front teeth broke leaving just under half a tooth and with this being an adult tooth had to go to the dentist and have it capped.

Anyway to whoever started this, Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

just joined sheffield forum, and saw that my infant school was being talked about. me and my brother (Bob&mick mullins lived next door to the school at 23 Hodgson st together with sisters Sue&wendy and mum and dad (Cath& Albert) did not have fond memories we got bashed regularly by Mr Askam and Mr Hill. I do remember Jack Hewitt and great pals in that area. we all played out in the street in those days. Our house was rented from Mr Newbould who had a shop on the corner of Milton st. In the back yard were stables which he rented as garage space. also once a year John the onion man would stay if a loft above the stable and string his onions and go out daily on his cycle selling them. Jack Hewitt is right in saying he was a bit of a bugger but no worse than me or my brother mick

just joined sheffield forum, and saw that my infant school was being talked about. me and my brother (Bob&mick mullins lived next door to the school at 23 Hodgson st together with sisters Sue&wendy and mum and dad (Cath& Albert) did not have fond memories we got bashed regularly by Mr Askam and Mr Hill. I do remember Jack Hewitt and great pals in that area. we all played out in the street in those days. Our house was rented from Mr Newbould who had a shop on the corner of Milton st. In the back yard were stables which he rented as garage space. also once a year John the onion man would stay if a loft above the stable and string his onions and go out daily on his cycle selling them. Jack Hewitt is right in saying he was a bit of a bugger but no worse than me or my brother mick
my mum and dad lived on hodgson street frank and joan, grandad and grandma lived in thomas st, tom and ada

just joined sheffield forum, and saw that my infant school was being talked about. me and my brother (Bob&mick mullins lived next door to the school at 23 Hodgson st together with sisters Sue&wendy and mum and dad (Cath& Albert) did not have fond memories we got bashed regularly by Mr Askam and Mr Hill. I do remember Jack Hewitt and great pals in that area. we all played out in the street in those days. Our house was rented from Mr Newbould who had a shop on the corner of Milton st. In the back yard were stables which he rented as garage space. also once a year John the onion man would stay if a loft above the stable and string his onions and go out daily on his cycle selling them. Jack Hewitt is right in saying he was a bit of a bugger but no worse than me or my brother mick

Hi BOB how the hell are you i think the last time i saw you you were working the door at the Top Rank many many moons ago i do hope you and ALL the family are OK are you still in touch with them all your Mick and Mick Green plus myself were very big mates back at the ST SILLY LASSES days if you are on FaceBook as well get me added as a friend i like to corrispond through E-Mail better than on open sites im still new to all this computer lark or should i say still dumb on it and i dont know how to get your E-Mail address from this site but i do from FaceBook look forward to hearing from you TAKE CARE JACK :loopy: .

I read in a earlier post if anyone knew if Pickerings cardboard box factory was still standing the answer is NO but part of the main entrance is still there i believe it was saved by being enlisted and was built into part of the now new premises i remember the old large green doors on michael rd which was the rear entrance to the factory as kids we played football there using the doors as the goal until we got the usual WARCRY ( go an play on yer own part ) old mates and myself would sneak in and hide in the rolls of paper and pallets of made up boxes ready for delivery until we got chased off that dead end of michael rd was a meeting place for all the kids in the area gangs of us would play rounders ,kick can,hide & seek etc until it went dark we also used to play football on the spare land on Moor st at the side of St Silas school opposite side to Richards cutlery firm main entrance it seemed to me reflecting on old friends that we all lived far and wide from each other not just in the the next streets lads from up Ecclesall rd,Bramall Ln,Broomall area even Pear st up the Washington rd area we would knock around in groups on certain days of 30 or more climbing gas lamps and getting mucky etc but what HAPPY childhood memories unlike the poor kids of today who's parents are afraid to let them even play outside on there own any lad that had a football was the flavour of the month i can remember mates calling to my home and saying can your JACK and his ball come to play suttle or what but like i said HAPPY DAYS.

Dear Pooh Bear and any other ex- St Silas pupils!!!,

My parents, Roger Hatton and Dawn Hatton (nee Webster) both attended St Silas from 1948 to 1956. They remeber Headmaster SE Hill, Mr Fovargue (assistant head) and other teachers, Miss Warren, Miss Naylor, Mrs Howsley, Mr Wilson etc.

They would love to hear from anyone they might know who attended St Silas with them!!!!

Chris Hatton (son,born 1971) on behalf of them both.....

Dear Pooh Bear and any other ex- St Silas pupils!!!,

My parents, Roger Hatton and Dawn Hatton (nee Webster) both attended St Silas from 1948 to 1956. They remember Headmaster SE Hill, Mr Fovargue (assistant head) and other teachers, Miss Warren, Miss Naylor, Mrs Howsley, Mr Wilson etc.

They would love to hear from anyone they might know who attended St Silas with them!!!!

Chris Hatton (son,born 1971) on behalf of them both.....

Hi Chris
JACK HEWITT here can you ask your parents if you are at all related to Philip Hatton who i believe lived around the Hodgson st area and later worked for the council i am sorry but i cant put your parents names to any faces but we did attend St Silas at the same time in what area did they both live at that time that might help the old brain cell Cheers :huh: .

Hi Chris
JACK HEWITT here can you ask your parents if you are at all related to Philip Hatton who i believe lived around the Hodgson st area and later worked for the council i am sorry but i cant put your parents names to any faces but we did attend St Silas at the same time in what area did they both live at that time that might help the old brain cell Cheers :huh: .
yes they are related to phillip hatton jack so am i roger also worked on council as i did with you :thumbsup:

yes they are related to phillip hatton jack so am i roger also worked on council as i did with you :thumbs up:

It's the medication you know plus too many blows to the head over the years is that Carl i know i have asked before but forgotten :loopy: .

It's the medication you know plus too many blows to the head over the years is that Carl i know i have asked before but forgotten :loopy: .
no it aint carl :suspect:

yes they are related to phillip hatton jack so am i roger also worked on council as i did with you :thumbsup:

Dont know if you are in contact with Phil or not but Philip Hatton is on Friends Reunited hope that helps.

hiya
i dont know if it was your dad but i remember eric hancock but when i knew them they lived in headford street near bradleys chip shop at the corner of eggerton street i remember eric he went in the dog and gun pub at the corner of bath street the street i lived on he had a son eric and i think a daughter, young eric was around my age birth around 1940, there was the harry eades family also brian glaves family,harold broadhurst family barry,peter hibbard's family. brian charlesworth family,I lived at 61 headford street and my family were the webster family. I was their daughter dawn. The Hancocks lived two doors away frm us. tHE FATHER WAS eRIC mother Flo son Eric and daughters Sylvia,June and Sonia.Yhe Gallagher family lived next to the chip shop Jim was the father,mother Rosie sons Terry Peter and I think the younger son was Brian and two daughters,Maureen the eldest and Brenda who was the same age as me born 1943/44.The Hibberds were related to the Charlesworths who lived on Egerton Lane.The eades had one son I think called Billy.

St Silas School actually closed in1979. I left there in 1978. My father also went to the school. It was a primary school. It was bombed during the war but was still on the go.The head teacher when I was there also taught my father in the 1940's (Mr Fovague) He is still alive today.
It was a very old school and was revamped when solicitors took over it after the school was closed. It had pre-war outside toilets up till its closure with no sinks.
There was only 4 classrooms, a kitchen, an office, a library, a dining room, an assembly/PE hall & sinks in the corrider.
I remember the school with fond memories & was sorry to see it close.
If you would like anymore info I will be glad to give.
Me and my husband were in Mr. Fovargue,s class aged 10 and eleven in 1955/56. He was an inspirational teacher who we have never forgotten. Do you know where he is now as he u sed to live at Totley when we were at St, Silas. Is he on
facebook do you know as he must be in his nineties now.Our names are Roger Hatton and Dawn Hatton(nee Webster).

me dad remembers the monkey he says if you got to near it would have your cap off your head, we lived on hodgson st, grandad lived on milton st nd my uncle used to be the caretaker of st silas school tommy dutton:thumbsup:
Uncle Tommy Dutton was the caretaker of Springfield School,not St. Silas. His two children-Peter and Hazel (my cousins) went to St.Silas.

hiya, yes i did go to springfield school 1943-53. i knew the parramores ray,shiela,pat, terry,rita, i think a younger one,my dad played football with their father when they were younger, i remember they lived on havelock square facing filey street, in fact ray, before he died, i would see him in the scarborough pub corner of evans street and milton street, another just come to me was harry maclarence lived on moore street i think. in one of the george cunningham books the name i think harry hill was mentioned well harry was the brother of margaret hill (she was my god mother) (antie maggie) harry and his brother i remember had a stall at the bottom of clarence street on the waste land opposite where he lived. thanks for another memory.

ps just remembered hodgson street was not cobble stoned it was i'm sure wooden blocked which was unusual around the district,the reason was outside the sunday school kids played marbles while waiting for it to open, another piece of useless information i'm sure ah well.
The Mclarences did indeed live on Milton St. I was a school-friend of Arthur who was a very good young boxer in the early 50s. We played many games of "mabs" on the wooden blocked road. I also spent a few bob over the years in Fisher,s sweet shop opposite the school gate on Hodgson St.

hiya, yes i did go to springfield school 1943-53. i knew the parramores ray,shiela,pat, terry,rita, i think a younger one,my dad played football with their father when they were younger, i remember they lived on havelock square facing filey street, in fact ray, before he died, i would see him in the scarborough pub corner of evans street and milton street, another just come to me was harry maclarence lived on moore street i think. in one of the george cunningham books the name i think harry hill was mentioned well harry was the brother of margaret hill (she was my god mother) (antie maggie) harry and his brother i remember had a stall at the bottom of clarence street on the waste land opposite where he lived. thanks for another memory.

ps just remembered hodgson street was not cobble stoned it was i'm sure wooden blocked which was unusual around the district,the reason was outside the sunday school kids played marbles while waiting for it to open, another piece of useless information i'm sure ah well.
The McLarence,s did live on Moore St as you say, I was a friend of Arthur the brother of Harry. Arthur was a very good amateur boxer who fought for the Croft House Settlement Club. The road outside the school on Hodgson was constructed of wooden blocks where we played our games of "mabs", there wasn,t too many cars at that time - 1950s.Can you remember "Fisher,s the sweet shop opposite the school gates on Hodgson St?

st.silas pupils & us from st.matthias & pomona st. schools all went to greystones sec.mod, theres a forum on here for that school.So u may find people u knew there.
It was late 1958/early 59 that the three schools merged. The headmaster was a Mr. Aizlewood ,There was a Mr Turley who was a good teacher and a lovely woman teacher - Mrs. Harrison. The woodwork teacher was a huge man well over 6ft. tall and powerfully built you didn,t mess around in his workshop.

Hi Chris
JACK HEWITT here can you ask your parents if you are at all related to Philip Hatton who i believe lived around the Hodgson st area and later worked for the council i am sorry but i cant put your parents names to any faces but we did attend St Silas at the same time in what area did they both live at that time that might help the old brain cell Cheers :huh: .
Philip is my cousin who lived just across from the school,we keep in touch on Facebook. I used to live on Milton St.(section between Thomas St. and Fitzwilliam St. Like Philip I also worked for the City Engineers Dept. from 1959 until about 1967.

Philip is my cousin who lived just across from the school,we keep in touch on Facebook. I used to live on Milton St.(section between Thomas St. and Fitzwilliam St. Like Philip I also worked for the City Engineers Dept. from 1959 until about 1967.
Roger, did you know my dad Tom Clay, who also worked for City Engineers?

Roger, did you know my dad Tom Clay, who also worked for City Engineers?
It seems that old age might be creeping upon me but I do recollect the name Tommy Clay,but cannot place where or in what circumstances we may have met. I worked initially as a mason but then went on to be a ganger before leaving in late 1967.

It seems that old age might be creeping upon me but I do recollect the name Tommy Clay,but cannot place where or in what circumstances we may have met. I worked initially as a mason but then went on to be a ganger before leaving in late 1967.

hiya rogerhatton are you related to tommy hatton who was a foreman on the city engineers when i worked for them in 1956/59. he lived on milton st a few doors from woods tobacconists at the corner of fitzwilliam st and milton st one of his neighbores was jack pegg, i worked on several jobs for him the first one was on the lowedges estate. another ganger was ted green he lived in fitzwilliam st just below gardiels chip shop, i remember bill marples he was a foreman, i worked with ted emmet bricklayer, there was jack bradbury,barry fox, david shaw,alf fosker,and big john english the irishman, a long time ago eh.
ps did you know bill coe foreman, he worked on any tunnel jobs that came up, a few years later i worked with one called dennis coe and asked him if he was related and it was bills son and he told me his dad worked for the coal board, that was where the tunneling came from.

Roger, my dad was a wages clerk so he could have given you your wages.

hiya roger hatton are you related to tommy hatton who was a foreman on the city engineers when i worked for them in 1956/59. he lived on milton st a few doors from woods tobacconists at the corner of fitzwilliam st and milton st one of his neighbors was jack pegg, i worked on several jobs for him the first one was on the lowedges estate. another ganger was ted green he lived in fitzwilliam st just below gardiels chip shop, i remember bill marples he was a foreman, i worked with ted Emmet bricklayer, there was jack bradbury,barry fox, david shaw,alf fosker,and big john english the irishman, a long time ago eh.
ps did you know bill coe foreman, he worked on any tunnel jobs that came up, a few years later i worked with one called dennis coe and asked him if he was related and it was bills son and he told me his dad worked for the coal board, that was where the tunneling came from.

Hi WillyBite
You got the old brain cell twitching with the names mentioned there i worked with Tommy Hatton on the Greenland rd dual carriageway ( i was one of the roller drivers )i think Ted Green was in charge of the Totley bridge also Chapletown bridge but like you said it's all a long time ago now .Was it Dave Shaw who died in the Manchester plane crash like i said the memory plays tricks now but dont forget old TOEJOE (spelt wrong i know ) he always had yellow gloves on even in summer some pints supped in the Adelpi by a few of the names mentioned Big John and co we also had John Novac (chops and cherb) Tommy Bradey (kabboobie) ex Dunmow rd gaffers HAPPY DAYS.

Tommy Hatton was my father who was a ganger until his retirement in1969,he died in 1978 at the age of 70 years. Some of the names mentioned I remember - Billy Marples (snuffy) who was a very good foreman; Eric Gaye (Tojo or Yellow Gloves) was if I remember a Superintendent ;John Novac ,I think he was the guy who was injured when his legs were run over by a concrete mixer ;Ted Emmett was a friend of my brother Tom jnr. who was also a bricklayer on the corporation,and his now in his 78th year. I did work with a Ronnie Coe who used to be involved with the Owlerton Dog Track, he may be related to the Coe,s that you have mentioned. I worked a lot of my time under the Superintendent Henry Baum on the Gleadless Valley and Hyde Park estates alongside John Cottey. Also worked in town under Tommy Douthwaite and Tommy Slater.

hiya rogerhatton are you related to tommy hatton who was a foreman on the city engineers when i worked for them in 1956/59. he lived on milton st a few doors from woods tobacconists at the corner of fitzwilliam st and milton st one of his neighbores was jack pegg, i worked on several jobs for him the first one was on the lowedges estate. another ganger was ted green he lived in fitzwilliam st just below gardiels chip shop, i remember bill marples he was a foreman, i worked with ted emmet bricklayer, there was jack bradbury,barry fox, david shaw,alf fosker,and big john english the irishman, a long time ago eh.
ps did you know bill coe foreman, he worked on any tunnel jobs that came up, a few years later i worked with one called dennis coe and asked him if he was related and it was bills son and he told me his dad worked for the coal board, that was where the tunneling came from.
Do you know where your dad worked from, was it one of the depots ?

Do you know where your dad worked from, was it one of the depots ?

Dad worked in the Town Hall offices on Surrey St in the 1950s but I also remember him talking about Woodside depot & Olive Grove.

Do you know where your dad worked from, was it one of the depots ?

hiya roger bill coe's depot, it was the one at the top of abbey lane just below ecclesall rd south it was called parkhead depot , one of the gangs were just used for replacing cats eyes on the road,i remember one winter salt spreading out to fox house when we got there the driver said have a smoke then we'll do the other side, we had to say we had used all the salt on the first run, another time was a new road cleaning wagon driver went on a route taking in mickley lane when the homesfield parish council rang parkhead as to why a sheffield sweeper was doing their streets. was barry baum a mason pavior, i remember irwin else,.i only worked this end of town.

I lived at 61 headford street and my family were the webster family. I was their daughter dawn. The Hancocks lived two doors away frm us. tHE FATHER WAS eRIC mother Flo son Eric and daughters Sylvia,June and Sonia.Yhe Gallagher family lived next to the chip shop Jim was the father,mother Rosie sons Terry Peter and I think the younger son was Brian and two daughters,Maureen the eldest and Brenda who was the same age as me born 1943/44.The Hibberds were related to the Charlesworths who lived on Egerton Lane.The eades had one son I think called Billy.

Yes I think I got it wrong it was Headford Street my father lived as a kid and your right about the rest of the family, they did go to st silas school.as I did years later.
I lost my father a few years ago so any info on what he was like as a kid would be great.
Cheers for the memories.
Debby

Hello i am the son of a lady who used to live on Hodgson street for who i am typing this. Her name was Margaret Futter, daughter of Samuel and Minnie Futter, with an older sister Rita. She lived at number 74 and went to St Silas school and remembers the teachers Mr Fovargue, Mr Hill the head, Mrs Housley and others such as Miss Naylor, Miss Rathbone and Mr Wilson.

She remembers old school friends such as Roger Hatton, Dawn Webster, Peter Dutton, David Lee, Arthur McLarence, Jean Hancock, Elaine Bland, Rita Bower, Anne Mansfield, Rita Gambles who sadly she heard passed away some years ago now. She also remembers the Marsden family who lived in the yard opposite the school, the Adams family and their children, one of which she is still in contact with.

She lived next door to Mr and Mrs Jones who had a son Keith and daughter Marie, about when they slept in the attics and shout to each other through the wall as children. At certains times of the year in the cellar it used to have about four inches of water flood the whole cellar, and she would laugh about her mothers bottles of drinks floating around in the water.

My mother remembers Judy the monkey, who lived in the cage beside the chippy on Young street. In the classrooms at school there were always jam jars painted green for the flowers and when it was time for the May queen the older pupils would go around Millhouses and other areas asking people to spare flowers from their gardens for the May queens. My mother was the May queen of St Silas school in the 1953 festival of Britain, there were two train barers, Elaine and Susan who's surnames we cannot remember.

Can anyone remember my mother Margaret and her older sister Rita ?

My mother and her cousin came across these images recently which ive taken a picture of and then uploaded to the internet.

Image of Hodgson Street, St Silas in the middle and Richards Cutlery Factory on the right - CLICK HERE (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/161220111751.jpg/)

Image of 74 Hodgson street opposite St Silas School - CLICK HERE (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/161220111752.jpg/)

Ive private messaged a few people who have posted in this thread but due to its long term length spanning a few years i doubt many people will be aware of its relevance anymore.

I hope people find these images as fond memories.

Hiya Blacklist,
Thanks for the nudge. It's true that I haven't been on the site for a few months and I am grateful to you for reminding me. I just love the photographs. The one which shows the school looks across the block where my Gran's house used to be. If anyone has any photographs of the Hurst Road/Michael Road/Humble Road area I would be very grateful. I have been trying to explain what it was like to my children but a photograph shows much more than words could ever hope to.
Have a happy Christmas everyone.

Granny Pat

My mother asks what was your grans name ? she may have known her, and did you got to St Silas school ?

Hi Blacklist,

Yes, I did go to St. Silas school from 1951 to 1957. My gran lived on Hodgeson Street but I cannot remember the number. It was a back to back house and her's was on the yard side. Her name was Edith Parker. Just across the road from her house is where a lad from our class used to live, Michael Yellott. Gosh, the years just fall away when your mind goes back to those days. No computers, no Kindles, no i-pods. Just so simple it was and although we didn't have all these modern things I honestly think it was happier without all the trappings. No-one had much and they just got on with things and made the best of the little they had. The community spirit was stronger then than now. Everyone looked out for each other. What do you think?

Granny Pat

Hi Blacklist,
Both my wife Dawn (nee Webster) went to school with your mum and can remember when she was May Queen. We both have happy memories of our schooldays at St. Silas and friends who we haven,t seen for nearly sixty years. We recently visited the area and took my eight year old grandaughter to see the school and where Dawn and I used to live. Say hello to your mum from us both and we hope you have a good xmas and please keep in touch

Hi,
I noticed that one or two of you mentioned Dougie Stevenson. He is my cousin and I lost touch with him a long time ago. Has anyone seen anything of him recently?
Merry Christmas to you all.

Granny Pat

Hiya Blacklist,
Thanks for the nudge. It's true that I haven't been on the site for a few months and I am grateful to you for reminding me. I just love the photographs. The one which shows the school looks across the block where my Gran's house used to be. If anyone has any photographs of the Hurst Road/Michael Road/Humble Road area I would be very grateful. I have been trying to explain what it was like to my children but a photograph shows much more than words could ever hope to.
Have a happy Christmas everyone.

Granny Pat

hiya have you read ( i'm not advertising but) they are a good read books by george cunningham the artist who lived on michael rd he names names who i remember from the area.

My mother says she remembers Dougie Stevenson and his sisters they lived up clarence street up a yard (if its the same family). Michael Yellot, we lived three doors away from him closer to St Silas school.

She is certain she must know Edith Parker, but cannot put a face to her. She also believes she went to St Silas school at the same time as grannypat.

We hope you all are having a very good christmas !

Hi Blacklist,
Dougie Stevenson was a friend of mine. I can remember when he asked four of his friends-one being me,another was my cousin Pete Dutton and two others whose names I have forgot to go camping with him one weekend none of us were in our teens at the time,Dougie was supplying the tent. We caught the train to somwhere in Derbyshire and pitched the tent (2 person size) in a field near to a stream. The w/e was interesting but sleeping was a problem-5 lads in a very small tent.
With regard to the attendants at your mums May Queen festival my wife thinks they were Elaine Ashton and possibly Susan Shaw.
All the best for 2012 and keep in touch.

Hi doing family history and I have found out that in the 1901 and 1911 census my great great grandfather was a church school caretaker. As he lived on Hodgson St would that have been St Silas school or Springfield school?

Hi Oldiegirl,
That would most certainly have been St. Silas schhol as that was on Hodgson Street. In point of fact it was on the corner of Hodgson Street and Young Street. The caretakers house was also on Hodgson Street just across the road from the school. When I was at St. Silas in the early 1950s I seem to thing that the caretaker's son was called Peter Judd. If I've got that wrong I'm sure will correct me.
Happy New year to one and all.

Granny Pat

Hi Blacklist and Willybite,

Thanks for telling me about the George Cunningham books both of which I already have. I love them as they show all the places where we used to play. He used to live on the same block as us but on the other side. In the same yard lived the Hewitt's, the Garlicks and the Beaumont's. Gosh, I've suprised myself by remembering those names. Jackie Hewitt is on Friend's Reunited should anyone want to contact him.
I was at St. Silas from about 1951 to 1957. I can remember everyone in my class but not sure about anyone in other classes. What is your mum's name or have you already mentioned it in earlier messages? Sorry, I should have looked first. Btw I went to secondary school with Elaine Ashton as well as St. Silas'. I think that she lives Blackstock Road way or that area.

Granny Pat

Hi grannypat, thanks for getting back to me. My relatives name was Benjamin Hall and his wife was called Florence, but as he was 51 in 1911 he had obviously retired or died by the time Peter Judd was caretaker.
My other relatives who lived in the same area were called Birks. my great grandad ran the Bath Hotel on Broomhall st during the years 1911 - 1913.
all the Hall and Birks relatives lived in that area for many years. my father's name was Harry Hall and went to St Silas school but he married in 1947 so he was a lot older than you.
Hope 2012 is a good year for you and for all the Forum members.

Hi Blacklist and Willybite,

Thanks for telling me about the George Cunningham books both of which I already have. I love them as they show all the places where we used to play. He used to live on the same block as us but on the other side. In the same yard lived the Hewitt's, the Garlicks and the Beaumont's. Gosh, I've suprised myself by remembering those names. Jackie Hewitt is on Friend's Reunited should anyone want to contact him.
I was at St. Silas from about 1951 to 1957. I can remember everyone in my class but not sure about anyone in other classes. What is your mum's name or have you already mentioned it in earlier messages? Sorry, I should have looked first. Btw I went to secondary school with Elaine Ashton as well as St. Silas'. I think that she lives Blackstock Road way or that area.

Granny Pat

hiya grannypat, it came to me that in one of george cunninghams books he mentions the vegatable stall holder name of harry hill he lived on the first street up clarence st well his sister was my godmother 73 years ago, harry and his brother had a large barrow on the spare land at the junction of clarence and ecclesall rds, he also wrote about when he worked at viners and would take the bettting slips to the bookies on bath street,

Hi Oldiegirl & Willybite,
Thanks for your replies. Obviously I don't know any of the people you mention Oldiegirl but in my class at St. Silas's there was a girl named Linda Hall. Could she be a relative of yours?
I haven't looked at George's books in a while but they are lovely to have and I do enjoy looking at them and thinking back. He was a little older than me and so some of the people he mentions were gone by the time I came along but not all of them. There is so much detail in the paintings that you can find something new every time you look at them.
Hi Blacklist still waiting to find out who your mum is but I expect you busy having a lovely Christmas. Have you any up-to-date news on Dougie Stevenson? I've just looked back at old messages - is your mum Margaret Futter because if so then I don't know that name. Is Futter her maiden name or married name? I look forward to hearing from you all.

Granny Pat

Hi Blacklist and Will Bite,

Thanks for telling me about the George Cunningham books both of which I already have. I love them as they show all the places where we used to play. He used to live on the same block as us but on the other side. In the same yard lived the Hewitt's, the Garlics and the Beaumont's. Gosh, I've surprised myself by remembering those names. Jackie Hewitt is on Friend's Reunited should anyone want to contact him.
I was at St. Silas from about 1951 to 1957. I can remember everyone in my class but not sure about anyone in other classes. What is your mum's name or have you already mentioned it in earlier messages? Sorry, I should have looked first. Btw I went to secondary school with Elaine Ashton as well as St. Silas'. I think that she lives Blackstock Road way or that area.

Granny Pat

HI Granny Pat
Nice to see you back on again I hope you are well and have had a good Christmas You mentioned the Garlick's I last saw Gordon Garlick around 20+ yrs ago walking with a stick at the bottom of London rd but not seen Susan or any of the family since we moved for the slum clearance going on to George Cunningham I seem to think that he was related to the Cunningham pickle family on Queens rd or am I mistaken as neighbours we didn't get on with the Beaumont's I seem to remember mrs Beaumont was from down south London I think and she thought she was above all us northerners I remember her lad joining the navy I have an old photo of a group of mothers and kids I think we were heading out somewhere on a day trip do you remember mrs Bliss who lived in the corner house at the dead end near Pickerings factory she was wheelchair bound I shall have to have I look to see if I can find this photo plus some of a St Silas trip to London for the England school boys game against Germany anyway have a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR and I will catch you soon JACK HEWITT.

My mother and her cousin came across these images recently which Ive taken a picture of and then uploaded to the internet.

Image of Hodgson Street, St Silas in the middle and Richards Cutlery Factory on the right - CLICK HERE (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/161220111751.jpg/)

Image of 74 Hodgson street opposite St Silas School - CLICK HERE (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/161220111752.jpg/)

Ive private messaged a few people who have posted in this thread but due to its long term length spanning a few years i doubt many people will be aware of its relevance anymore.

I hope people find these images as fond memories.

Hi Blacklist
What a great photo of St Silly Lasses school the spare land from which the photo was taken is now where the electric generator stands as kids we had our bonfires there until the generator was built HAPPY DAYS:love: .

Hi Jack,

Good to hear from you again. Yes, I do remember Mrs Bliss. As kids we always tried to get past her window as quickly as we could as she would knock on the window for us to do errands for her. You know what we were like as kids or any kid at that age, you don't have any sympathy for anyone but yourself. It didn't come into our minds at all that this lady was in a wheelchair and her entire life was spent within those two small rooms downstairs. If she caught our attention we would go in and she would talk for ages and then we had to go to the shops for her. How selfish can you get when she must have known that we wanted to carry on playing.
The Beaumonts son was called David I seem to remember.
Happy New Year Jack.

Granny Pat

Hi WillyBite
You got the old brain cell twitching with the names mentioned there i worked with Tommy Hatton on the Greenland rd dual carriageway ( i was one of the roller drivers )i think Ted Green was in charge of the Totley bridge also Chapletown bridge but like you said it's all a long time ago now .Was it Dave Shaw who died in the Manchester plane crash like i said the memory plays tricks now but dont forget old TOEJOE (spelt wrong i know ) he always had yellow gloves on even in summer some pints supped in the Adelpi by a few of the names mentioned Big John and co we also had John Novac (chops and cherb) Tommy Bradey (kabboobie) ex Dunmow rd gaffers HAPPY DAYS.

hiya jack, yes david shaw was killed on the manchester airport tarmac when the plane caught fire, his mate was big john english, and another was barry fox, i

@ rogerhatton - my mother says she remembers the trainbearers as Elaine and Susan so it must be them. Does anyone remember Marie and Keith Jones who both lived next to my mother ?

@ grannypat - yes my mother's maiden name was Futter (margaret). Her father was Samuel and mother Minnie, with a sister Rita. In my mothers class at St Silas was Jean Hancock, Pam Clark, Dawn Webster, Pat Bradbury, Elaine Bland, Rita Bower, Arthur McClarence, Malcolm Umberstone, David Lee, Peter Dutton. She also remembers a girl called Rita Elwis who was a few years older who lived on Moore Street who was a few years older than we were. She hasnt seen anything of Dougie Stevenson since they moved.

Just ben reading a few of these threads... I went to St Silas school in the 70's. i am now 46...I lived on Broomspring lane, but unforntueately I dont remember much about the school as I was too young haha either that or my memory just wont take me back that far..my name then was Wendy pinder I had a brother that went there called Wayne Pinder and 2 sisters called tina and Mandy Pinder. does anyone recall that name

Hi Jack,

Good to hear from you again. Yes, I do remember Mrs Bliss. As kids we always tried to get past her window as quickly as we could as she would knock on the window for us to do errands for her. You know what we were like as kids or any kid at that age, you don't have any sympathy for anyone but yourself. It didn't come into our minds at all that this lady was in a wheelchair and her entire life was spent within those two small rooms downstairs. If she caught our attention we would go in and she would talk for ages and then we had to go to the shops for her. How selfish can you get when she must have known that we wanted to carry on playing.
The Beaumonts son was called David I seem to remember.
Happy New Year Jack.

Granny Pat

Hi Granny Pat
Thanks for the reply that's right the Beaumonts son was called David and I believe the daughter was Susan I cant remember the parents names can you please post the titles of the books George Cunningham wrote as I would like to try and get hold of them both also I don't know if you can help me but how do you post photos onto these threads I have a few of the folks around the 50s and 60s in the area also can you help me was the name of the corner shop on the junction of Clarence st and Michal rd called Rastricks I have forgot the name of the one at the corner of Clarence st and Moor st I believe a lad called Freddy Atkinson lived next door to that one don't know if you can help me on that all the best and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.:loopy:

hiya jack, yes david shaw was killed on the manchester airport tarmac when the plane caught fire, his mate was big john english, and another was barry fox, i

Hi Willybite
thanks for the reply you have just jogged my memory again I remember all the names that you mentioned good men one and all I remember talking to Dave Shaw just a few days before he was killed we were in the old tyre shop in the Olive Grove depot with Charlie the tyre fitter it just seems like yesterday but it has got to be over 20+ yrs ago hope you are in good health all the best for the NEW YEAR.

@ rogerhatton - my mother says she remembers the train bearers as Elaine and Susan so it must be them. Does anyone remember Marie and Keith Jones who both lived next to my mother ?

@ granny pat - yes my mother's maiden name was Futter (margaret). Her father was Samuel and mother Minnie, with a sister Rita. In my mothers class at St Silas was Jean Hancock, Pam Clark, Dawn Webster, Pat Bradbury, Elaine Bland, Rita Bower, Arthur McClarence, Malcolm Umberstone, David Lee, Peter Dutton. She also remembers a girl called Rita Elwis who was a few years older who lived on Moore Street who was a few years older than we were. She hasn't seen anything of Dougie Stevenson since they moved.

Hi Blacklist
You have named quite a few of the old crowd there you mentioned Rita Elwis if my memory is working correctly did she have a brother called Jimmy who had bright ginger hair and knocked around with Eric (moggy) Moles who had a pet monkey Jimmy at one time was the transport manager for the central transport (community buses ) on Staniforth rd but not seen him in many a year now Jean Hancock is my wife's cousin and again not seen her for around 17yrs Pam Clark at one time was the landlady at the Little Mesters pub on William st there again quite a few years ago all the rest was at school I hope that helps you all the best and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.

hiya have you read ( i'm not advertising but) they are a good read books by george cunningham the artist who lived on michael rd he names names who i remember from the area.

Hi Willybite
Can you please post the titles of the Books by George Cunningham George at one time lived in the same yard as myself I also seem to think that he was related to the Cunningham pickle family who's factory was on Queens rd I remember my MUM getting extra large jars of pickles from them at this time of the year cheers all the best for the NEW YEAR.

My mother says the name Moles rings a bell, was there a Marilyn Moles ? it may have been a different Moles Family. My mother knew the Elwis family but can only remember the names of Rita since she was a few years younger than them.

My mothers cousin is Ken Randall, he went to St Silas also and meets up with some of his old school friends, he is approximately 75 years old now. Did you know Ken ?

My mother says the name Moles rings a bell, was there a Marilyn Moles ? it may have been a different Moles Family. My mother knew the Elwis family but can only remember the names of Rita since she was a few years younger than them.

My mothers cousin is Ken Randall, he went to St Silas also and meets up with some of his old school friends, he is approximately 75 years old now. Did you know Ken ?

Hi Blacklist
HAPPY NEW YEAR sorry Ken Randall doe's not register with the old brain cell I am a couple of years younger than Jimmy Elwis & "moggy" Moles ALL THE BEST.

Hi Jack,
The George Cunningham books are "By George" and "More George". I think that they are out of print now. I was up in Sheffield about a year ago and couldn'r find any of them on sale anywhere. However, someone told me that there was a shop in Castleton which sold them and also the cards. I went there and found it. I can't remember the name, I'm sorry, but it is only a small shop selling books and it's on the main road which leads to the big car park with the tourist information shop in it.
I am sorry to say that I have lost touch with both our Bob and Paul. I have tried very hard to find them but with no luck. Perhaps they just don't want to be found?I will try to make some enquiries about the books for you myself and let you know if I have any luck.
Happy New Year to you and your Jack.

Granny Pat

Hi Willybite
thanks for the reply you have just jogged my memory again I remember all the names that you mentioned good men one and all I remember talking to Dave Shaw just a few days before he was killed we were in the old tyre shop in the Olive Grove depot with Charlie the tyre fitter it just seems like yesterday but it has got to be over 20+ yrs ago hope you are in good health all the best for the NEW YEAR.

hiya jack wasn't david some relation of walt unwin maybe i'm wrong,but when i worked on the corp i worked with ted emmet when we found the sovs in that wall up hathersage rd, g,g they would be handy now, the barry fox whose father kept the bridge inn at heeley later ,was a brickie app with dave shaw we all would work together sometimes with jack bradbury, thinking back one christmas, walt unwin dropped a cigar each for the gang members and at snaptime jack gave us all half a cigar saying that his dad liked a cigar at christmas and thanked us all for the ones he hadn't cut in half,
ps remember charlie eckardt lorry driver, well he live close to me when we were growing up he was a bit older than me but around jack hudsons age who live nearby too.

I lived at 61 headford street and my family were the webster family. I was their daughter dawn. The Hancocks lived two doors away frm us. tHE FATHER WAS eRIC mother Flo son Eric and daughters Sylvia,June and Sonia.Yhe Gallagher family lived next to the chip shop Jim was the father,mother Rosie sons Terry Peter and I think the younger son was Brian and two daughters,Maureen the eldest and Brenda who was the same age as me born 1943/44.The Hibberds were related to the Charlesworths who lived on Egerton Lane.The eades had one son I think called Billy.

hiya, i remember all these names you have said ,on another site i mentioned the eades, harry lived down by bradleys chip shop well i had a reply from his son billly,you mentioned the charlesworths well brian was my age and there was the glaves brian he was the landlord of the fellbrig pub years ago, harold broadhurst was i think related, he worked at laycocks as a cutter grinder, remember the bradleys,cottons,roomes, i sometimes see barry piercy he married one of the goodisons girls.

My mother says the name Moles rings a bell, was there a Marilyn Moles ? it may have been a different Moles Family. My mother knew the Elwis family but can only remember the names of Rita since she was a few years younger than them.

My mothers cousin is Ken Randall, he went to St Silas also and meets up with some of his old school friends, he is approximately 75 years old now. Did you know Ken ?

hiya yes i knew who ken was he was a keen fisherman, and he worked at laycocks on archer rd/camping lane.

Hi Jack Hewitt,

I have found the George Cunningham books on www.amazon.co.uk and they aren't expensive. Knowing where you grew up, on the same blocks as me, I just know that you would love to own these two books as the paintings take you back. He was very clever and his pictures have so much detail in them. I just love them. Well worth every penny.

Pat

Hi Jack Hewitt,

I have found the George Cunningham books on www.amazon.co.uk and they aren't expensive. Knowing where you grew up, on the same blocks as me, I just know that you would love to own these two books as the paintings take you back. He was very clever and his pictures have so much detail in them. I just love them. Well worth every penny.

Pat

Cheers Pat I have had a look on Amazon and will be sending off for them both I must admit that I Am finding it hard to picture George's face after all the years that have passed us by I think he moved out from his parents house in our yard as i entered my teens.

hiya jack wasn't david some relation of walt unwin maybe i'm wrong,but when i worked on the corp i worked with ted Emmet when we found the socs in that wall up hathersage rd, g,g they would be handy now, the barry fox whose father kept the bridge inn at heeley later ,was a brickie app with dave shaw we all would work together sometimes with jack bradbury, thinking back one christmas, walt unwin dropped a cigar each for the gang members and at snaptime jack gave us all half a cigar saying that his dad liked a cigar at christmas and thanked us all for the ones he hadn't cut in half,
ps remember charlie eckardt lorry driver, well he live close to me when we were growing up he was a bit older than me but around jack hudson's age who live nearby too.

Sorry Willybite I cant help you with the information you asked about Dave and Walt being related God when you think back weren't there some characters working on the council from gaffers to labourers HAPPY DAYS.

Sorry Willybite I cant help you with the information you asked about Dave and Walt being related God when you think back weren't there some characters working on the council from gaffers to labourers HAPPY DAYS.

hiya jack, when i started work with ted emmet i remember working just off abbeydale rd for a job for bill marples it was a heading job into the railway, anyhow an apprentice brickie straight from school was sent to work with us ,and he had heard talk of stutts ,or snuffs, marples, well the first time he spoke to bill he called him snuffsy, like mr snuffsy.

Hi Blacklist
HAPPY NEW YEAR sorry Ken Randall doe's not register with the old brain cell I am a couple of years younger than Jimmy Elwis & "moggy" Moles ALL THE BEST.

hiya, ken randall would have been born in around 1936

Only just seen your inbox message, as already mentioned my father (Eric Hancock) passed away some years ago as did his sister Sylvia. However I may be able to contact my aunt June & will let her know about these posts as she may want to reminisce also x

Only just seen your inbox message, as already mentioned my father (Eric Hancock) passed away some years ago as did his sister Sylvia. However I may be able to contact my aunt June & will let her know about these posts as she may want to reminisce also x

sorry toi hear of your dad.

Sorry Willybite I cant help you with the information you asked about Dave and Walt being related God when you think back weren't there some characters working on the council from gaffers to labourers HAPPY DAYS.

hiya jack there were a lot of laughs like one of the first jobs i went on was when we cut through the two parts of warminster rd in the late 50s ,when we got on site it was overgrown allotments the privet was about 8/10 ft high
and all we had were pick and shovels and were told to hack the bushes down, for a start we spent all day there then the next day came the bulldozer and he made short work of the site ,the driver was ben gommersol remember him ?
ps
it was bill marples job ast the time and i remember him walking past a 6' trench and saying to one in the trench " thal get nowt if tha falls off the shoval"

Cheers Pat I have had a look on Amazon and will be sending off for them both I must admit that I Am finding it hard to picture George's face after all the years that have passed us by I think he moved out from his parents house in our yard as i entered my teens.

Hi Jack,
Let me know your thought about the books when they arrive, will you. I'm sure that you will enjoy seeing all the old places.
Btw Jimmy Elwes was in my class at school so I too am a little older than you. I do wish that we could get back in contact with our Bob, Paul and Brian. I have been in contact with Gloria on Friends Reunited but that was sometime ago. As you know I am in contact with Elaine, but I have not been able to find Linda I am sad to say. Do you remember Leslie Parkin who lived on Hurst Road? Melvin Pashley who lived on Humble Road and Frankie Osman from Bridgefield Road?

Pat

remember the bradleys,cottons,roomes, i sometimes see barry piercy he married one of the goodisons girls.

My mother says she can remember Eileen Goodison. My mother says if you private message or post your real name here she'll remember you to Ken.

My mother says she can remember Eileen Goodison. My mother says if you private message or post your real name here she'll remember you to Ken.
hiya
don't know the name but i do remember a marilyn,the goodisons were related to the constantines think they were siblings, they lived in the top yard just down from broomhall st.
ps ken wouldnt know me at all it was just a name from work.

Hi Jack,
Let me know your thought about the books when they arrive, will you. I'm sure that you will enjoy seeing all the old places.
Btw Jimmy Elwes was in my class at school so I too am a little older than you. I do wish that we could get back in contact with our Bob, Paul and Brian. I have been in contact with Gloria on Friends Reunited but that was sometime ago. As you know I am in contact with Elaine, but I have not been able to find Linda I am sad to say. Do you remember Leslie Parkin who lived on Hurst Road? Melvin Pashley who lived on Humble Road and Frankie Osman from Bridgefield Road?

Pat
hiya
reading your letter again ,when reading george cunninghams book it took me back 60 odd years when he wrote about opening a pub door and seeing one of the hill brothers sat having a drink, well the hill brothers were the siblings to my godmother margaret, they lived in the first yard on bridgefield rd.

My late Wife Susan Beal Nee Hague lived on hodgeson street and went to st Silas school, does any one remember, George and Gertrude Hague, Sue's Mum and Dad.
She was born in 1948.

Hi Jack,
Let me know your thought about the books when they arrive, will you. I'm sure that you will enjoy seeing all the old places.
Btw Jimmy Elwes was in my class at school so I too am a little older than you. I do wish that we could get back in contact with our Bob, Paul and Brian. I have been in contact with Gloria on Friends Reunited but that was sometime ago. As you know I am in contact with Elaine, but I have not been able to find Linda I am sad to say. Do you remember Leslie Parkin who lived on Hurst Road? Melvin Pashley who lived on Humble Road and Frankie Osman from Bridgefield Road?

Pat

Hi grannypat I am sorry that I have been a bit slow in replying only I have not been on the old laptop a great deal lately in answer to your question YES I do remember all three that you mentioned was it Frankie Holdsman or like you say Osman I still don't know how to put photos on site but I have a few photos of Frankie,Paul Mangle plus a few group photos of street days out if you have any ideas let me know how to do it I was good friends with Melvin Pashley if you remember he swam for Yorkshire until he had one of his big toes amputated after being stung by a wasp on holiday do you remember Derek Baker and family that lived on Humble rd also the Heppenstalls that lived on Hurst rd I still come across Derek and Kevin "Heppy" from time to time when I am at the games at the Lane just to let you know I still haven't sent off for the books yet must admit I forgot about them hope to hear from you soon TAKE CARE.

Hi grannypat I am sorry that I have been a bit slow in replying only I have not been on the old laptop a great deal lately in answer to your question YES I do remember all three that you mentioned was it Frankie Holdsman or like you say Osman I still don't know how to put photos on site but I have a few photos of Frankie,Paul Mangle plus a few group photos of street days out if you have any ideas let me know how to do it I was good friends with Melvin Pashley if you remember he swam for Yorkshire until he had one of his big toes amputated after being stung by a wasp on holiday do you remember Derek Baker and family that lived on Humble rd also the Heppenstalls that lived on Hurst rd I still come across Derek and Kevin "Heppy" from time to time when I am at the games at the Lane just to let you know I still haven't sent off for the books yet must admit I forgot about them hope to hear from you soon TAKE CARE.

HI
THE BOOKS ARE GREAT
brought back a lot of memory,s
used to knock about with frankie holsman,david bolton, michael dennell,
david sidall.

hi
hey up jack,looking forward to the photo,s

Hi grannypat I am sorry that I have been a bit slow in replying only I have not been on the old laptop a great deal lately in answer to your question YES I do remember all three that you mentioned was it Frankie Holdsman or like you say Osman I still don't know how to put photos on site but I have a few photos of Frankie,Paul Mangle plus a few group photos of street days out if you have any ideas let me know how to do it I was good friends with Melvin Pashley if you remember he swam for Yorkshire until he had one of his big toes amputated after being stung by a wasp on holiday do you remember Derek Baker and family that lived on Humble rd also the Heppenstalls that lived on Hurst rd I still come across Derek and Kevin "Heppy" from time to time when I am at the games at the Lane just to let you know I still haven't sent off for the books yet must admit I forgot about them hope to hear from you soon TAKE CARE.

hiya jack hewitt i wrote about a mark hewett who would come around for the foood scraps for his pigs i lived on bath st where the bookie stood and when you read of george cunningham taking bets for his his workmates at viners and the punters would scarper at the sign of a pc, well one of the bookies minders was a george cunningham (cunnie) another george no relation i think

Sorry Willybite I cant help you with the information you asked about Dave and Walt being related God when you think back weren't there some characters working on the council from gaffers to labourers HAPPY DAYS.

hiya jack there was when i started work ont corp bill marples was the ganger,it was a job on slaylee lane and we were following the bulldozer clearing snow up fullwood and when we got back to the huts to put our tools away one of the two caravan type huts had caught fire there was only the floor left, yes happy days ha ha.

Hi Jackie,

I think that you are right and the name was Frankie Holdsman and not Osman. I do think that you being that little bit younger than me means that your memories are slightly more up to date. Did you say that you knew Dougie Stevenson? He is another of my cousins who I have lost touch with and haven't seen for many years. If you ever manage to get in touch with any of the old crowd please remember me to them won't you. I enjoyed our childhood there at the bottom of The Moor and feel quite nostagic for it as I get older.

Pat

St Silas School actually closed in1979. I left there in 1978. My father also went to the school. It was a primary school. It was bombed during the war but was still on the go.The head teacher when I was there also taught my father in the 1940's (Mr Fovague) He is still alive today.
It was a very old school and was revamped when solicitors took over it after the school was closed. It had pre-war outside toilets up till its closure with no sinks.
There was only 4 classrooms, a kitchen, an office, a library, a dining room, an assembly/PE hall & sinks in the corrider.
I remember the school with fond memories & was sorry to see it close.
If you would like anymore info I will be glad to give.

hiya just a thought when reading your letter again, eric was my age and set me thinking on sunday mornings the two sunday school teachers from hodgson st sunday school would collect the young ones to go to s/school, and i think we both went there together, this would have been in the early
40s , we started in the first class which was in the cellar, i think brian glaves,and brian charlesworth went as well.at the corner of egerton lane was padleys shop, and a boy a year or so younger than us remember his name was
gene savage.

HI
THE BOOKS ARE GREAT
brought back a lot of memory,s
used to knock about with frankie holsman,david bolton, michael dennell,
david sidall.

Hi jonjo
You have hit on another name from the past in Mick Dennall I also remember his younger brother Ronnie I seem to think that the family were into some sort of upholstery business I remember seeing a fight between Bill Brown and Mick it was one of the good old fashion scraps where the crowd formed a circle and let them get on with it then they both went for a drink together afterwards about the photos have you any idea on how to post them on too the relevant threads the only way I can think of is to private message your E-Mail address and I can send them that way.

Hi Jackie,

I think that you are right and the name was Frankie Holdsman and not Osman. I do think that you being that little bit younger than me means that your memories are slightly more up to date. Did you say that you knew Dougie Stevenson? He is another of my cousins who I have lost touch with and haven't seen for many years. If you ever manage to get in touch with any of the old crowd please remember me to them won't you. I enjoyed our childhood there at the bottom of The Moor and feel quite nostalgic for it as I get older.

Pat

Hi Pat
In answer to you question about Dougie yes I knew him but for the life of me I cannot put a face to the name after all these years I seem to think that he was quite a good footballer did he leave St Silas and move up to Greystones after the 11+ I seem to think I played football with him there if you send me a private message with your E-Mail address I can send you some photos over that way unless you know how to post them onto this thread TAKE CARE JACK.

Hi Pat
In answer to you question about Dougie yes I knew him but for the life of me I cannot put a face to the name after all these years I seem to think that he was quite a good footballer did he leave St Silas and move up to Greystones after the 11+ I seem to think I played football with him there if you send me a private message with your E-Mail address I can send you some photos over that way unless you know how to post them onto this thread TAKE CARE JACK.

hiya jack, nothing to do with st silas school but do you remember on button lane and the corner of carver st the theatrical shop with its joke window to the side,we used to go up the moor and down the other side when we were around 12ish when at the age when no sunday cinema, too young for pub in fact no nothing at all, and todays kids moan, i've nothing to do.by the way what was the name of the pub just below the theatrical shop on the same side, only went in once for a darts match with my dad and when we went to the bar there was only one bloke at the bar and it turned out to be dads cousin who he hadn't seen for yonks

hiya jack, nothing to do with st silas school but do you remember on button lane and the corner of carver st the theatrical shop with its joke window to the side,we used to go up the moor and down the other side when we were around 12ish when at the age when no sunday cinema, too young for pub in fact no nothing at all, and today's kids moan, i've nothing to do.by the way what was the name of the pub just below the theatrical shop on the same side, only went in once for a darts match with my dad and when we went to the bar there was only one bloke at the bar and it turned out to be dads cousin who he hadn't seen for yonks

Hi WillyBite
In answer to your question YES I certainly do remember the theatrical shop we used to call it the "joke shop" and on certain occasions crept in when one of the lads kept the assistant talking and make off with all sorts of goodies I infact made off with a George V ceremonial sword which was beautifully engraved all down the blade and kept that right up to moving for the slum clearance the pub you mention I think was the commercial but not 100% sure there were so many pubs up and down Button Ln like you say as kids we went off on all sorts of adventures and roamed for miles going in search of DENS in all the old bombed out buildings do you also remember the RAG SHOP on Button Ln many a happy hour spent in there after closing time :hi hi: .

Thanks for that Pooh Bear..... The surrounding wall of the building looks much older that that of the St. Silas House itself so maybe your Mom is right.
Dont like to ask a lady's age, but does yr. mum remember Thomas Street or Hodgson Street (sadly most of the old houses are gone now). St. Silas School and Springfield School seem very close together - guess that the population in the S.1. and S.3 areas at that time was very high. I know that there were back to back houses and courts of houses etc. My Mom's family were french polishers and Grandad had a 'little mester's shop'.

Hello I remember Thomas Street very well as my grandma had the news agents next to the Brunswick Pub. Her name was Selina Hardwick, and my mothers father had a little mesters shop on Hodgson Street His name was John Earl. I attended Pomona Street School and then Greystones but remember the names of St. Silas and Springfield.

Hello I remember Thomas Street very well as my grandma had the news agents next to the Brunswick Pub. Her name was Selina Hardwick, and my mothers father had a little mesters shop on Hodgson Street His name was John Earl. I attended Pomona Street School and then Greystones but remember the names of St. Silas and Springfield.

hiya vera i remember your grans paper shop below the brunswick pub, it was a funny little shop i remember, it was just an ordinary house with a counter and a door just inside, i bet you would only get two at once at the counterf any more would finnish up in the living place. another thing i remember there was 1 house up the entry and their name was brookes harry and his wife they had twin girls. his family came off bath st.

hiya vera i remember your grans paper shop below the brunswick pub, it was a funny little shop i remember, it was just an ordinary house with a counter and a door just inside, i bet you would only get two at once at the counterf any more would finnish up in the living place. another thing i remember there was 1 house up the entry and their name was brookes harry and his wife they had twin girls. his family came off bath st.

Yes I can remember them also Harry & Elsie & the twins Linda & Elaine my uncle took the shop over his name was Lawrence Hardwick & my dad was Ernest, we lived near Hunters Bar back then. I now live in Bodrum Turkey but only today my sister told me she was doing a family tree trying to trace our ancestors. Where did you live at that time

I also used to go to school with a girl called Hazel Medley would also lived in that area I would love to be able to contact her again. Susan Croft & Trevor Askam are also old school friends did you know of these families.

Hi jonjo
You have hit on another name from the past in Mick Dennall I also remember his younger brother Ronnie I seem to think that the family were into some sort of upholstery business I remember seeing a fight between Bill Brown and Mick it was one of the good old fashion scraps where the crowd formed a circle and let them get on with it then they both went for a drink together afterwards about the photos have you any idea on how to post them on too the relevant threads the only way I can think of is to private message your E-Mail address and I can send them that way.

hi jack
my knowledge is about the same as yours and my grey matter seems to be getting lesser. i remember quite a lot of the names mentioned. after being mentioned.
my e-mail is
f361williamson@btinternet.com
looking forward to them

Hi WillyBite
In answer to your question YES I certainly do remember the theatrical shop we used to call it the "joke shop" and on certain occasions crept in when one of the lads kept the assistant talking and make off with all sorts of goodies I infact made off with a George V ceremonial sword which was beautifully engraved all down the blade and kept that right up to moving for the slum clearance the pub you mention I think was the commercial but not 100% sure there were so many pubs up and down Button Ln like you say as kids we went off on all sorts of adventures and roamed for miles going in search of DENS in all the old bombed out buildings do you also remember the RAG SHOP on Button Ln many a happy hour spent in there after closing time :hi hi: .

hiya jack, the rag shop you said did you mean marsdens rag, bone, and paper ,yard,well if it was i can't see going in there after hours,it was bad enough going on business after waste papering which we had collected for a bit of spends.

I also used to go to school with a girl called Hazel Medley would also lived in that area I would love to be able to contact her again. Susan Croft & Trevor Askam are also old school friends did you know of these families.

Hi Vera I see you have mentioned Trevor Askam I live in the W/Midlands but still go to the Lane for most of the home games Trevor sits around 8 seats away from myself if it's the same Askam family I belive they lived on Clarence st I will try and remember to mention you to him I dont know if he has a computer but will ask.

hiya jack, the rag shop you said did you mean marsdens rag, bone, and paper ,yard,well if it was i can't see going in there after hours,it was bad enough going on business after waste papering which we had collected for a bit of spends.

Hi WillyBite
Did you ever try putting one or two bricks in with the rags until they emptied everything out onto the scales then make a run for it we used to climb over the wall at evening time and make off with a sack full of rags and take them in a few days later also grab a bundle of newspapers and take them to WALL'S chippy on Ecclesall rd for free fish and chips also got us the money for the SAT morning flicks at the STAR cinema HAPPY DAYS.

hi jack
my knowledge is about the same as yours and my grey matter seems to be getting lesser. i remember quite a lot of the names mentioned. after being mentioned.
my e-mail is
f361williamson@btinternet.com
looking forward to them

Hi jonjo2
Thanks for the E-Mail address I think I have asked you in the past are you Frank Williamson that lived on Bishop st in the same yard as Kath Fowler and Roger Kay quite a few of your lot if I remember Roy (sam) Graham,Keith.

I also used to go to school with a girl called Hazel Medley would also lived in that area I would love to be able to contact her again. Susan Croft & Trevor Askam are also old school friends did you know of these families.

hiya when i saw the name askam the name peter askam came to me he lived in clarence st he was about my age 73 if its the same family, and there was paul davison his dad was a buffer known roundabouts as little freddie.

Yes I can remember them also Harry & Elsie & the twins Linda & Elaine my uncle took the shop over his name was Lawrence Hardwick & my dad was Ernest, we lived near Hunters Bar back then. I now live in Bodrum Turkey but only today my sister told me she was doing a family tree trying to trace our ancestors. Where did you live at that time

hiya vera parker i've just read your post again my name is bill white, and when i was small on bath street a name the same as yours came to me and wondered if they were related to you they lived at the time across the yard from us up what was known as the bookmakers yard where bill harrison took bets, anyway back to the name it was horace and winnie parker, i know he had a brother who married a marrion turner who had two sisters named norma and brenda.

Roger, did you know my dad Tom Clay, who also worked for City Engineers?

hiya i knew a peter clay any relation ?

Hi jonjo2
Thanks for the E-Mail address I think I have asked you in the past are you Frank Williamson that lived on Bishop st in the same yard as Kath Fowler and Roger Kay quite a few of your lot if I remember Roy (sam) Graham,Keith.

yep thats me.
live in northamptonshire now, been here since 1969.

Hi Blacklist,
Dougie Stevenson was a friend of mine. I can remember when he asked four of his friends-one being me,another was my cousin Pete Dutton and two others whose names I have forgot to go camping with him one weekend none of us were in our teens at the time,Dougie was supplying the tent. We caught the train to somwhere in Derbyshire and pitched the tent (2 person size) in a field near to a stream. The w/e was interesting but sleeping was a problem-5 lads in a very small tent.
With regard to the attendants at your mums May Queen festival my wife thinks they were Elaine Ashton and possibly Susan Shaw.
All the best for 2012 and keep in touch.

hiya this letter brought to mind a camping trip my mates and me had in 1950, we went to worseborough canal from friday til sunday there were seven of us kieth pepper ,john farmer terry smith,, they were eleven, me i was twelve, and graham kay,dennis bradley, and brian weatherall they were thirteen, all in two small ridge tents, that was the last time for me ,

My grandad George Hall used to be the caretaker of St Silas school in the 1930,s. He,s mentioned in the By George book. He lived across the road at 46 Hodgson St. My grandma, Lizzie, used to make cardboard boxes in that house for Pickerings & during the war they had a school in the cellars. Brought back loads of memories!!

Hi Oldiegirl, I think you and I could be related although distantly. My great grandfather also was Harry Birks, got a photo of him sat outside Bath Hotel.

Hi Oldiegirl, I think you and I could be related although distantly. My great grandfather also was Harry Birks, got a photo of him sat outside Bath Hotel.

it could be that we are related. My grandma was Nellie Birks, she had sisters Florence, Annie and Elsie and brothers Arthur and Harry.
I have pictures of both Harry and Sarah Birks but only when they moved from the Bath Hotel up to Fulwood. I also have a photo of a large group of people outside the hotel with his name above the door.
any of these names familier?

My grandad George Hall used to be the caretaker of St Silas school in the 1930,s. He,s mentioned in the By George book. He lived across the road at 46 Hodgson St. My grandma, Lizzie, used to make cardboard boxes in that house for Pickerings & during the war they had a school in the cellars. Brought back loads of memories!!

Hi small world as when my grandfather was the caretaker he also lived at 46 Hodgson st. it must have been the caretakers house. my great grandad was there in 1901 and 1911 census. I think I have mentioned previously on this thread that his name was Benjamin Hall. I cannot find a George Hall in my family tree but your grandad could be a child of one of his sons. Do you know who your great grandad was?

it could be that we are related. My grandma was Nellie Birks, she had sisters Florence, Annie and Elsie and brothers Arthur and Harry.
I have pictures of both Harry and Sarah Birks but only when they moved from the Bath Hotel up to Fulwood. I also have a photo of a large group of people outside the hotel with his name above the door.
any of these names familier?

My Grandmother was Florence, I remember visiting your grandmother when she lived at Nether Green in the cottage opposite the school. I started to do a family tree but only got as far as Henry Walton Birks [Harry's father] he was born in 1840, they lived on Sydney street. Do you have any futher information?

My Grandmother was Florence, I remember visiting your grandmother when she lived at Nether Green in the cottage opposite the school. I started to do a family tree but only got as far as Henry Walton Birks [Harry's father] he was born in 1840, they lived on Sydney street. Do you have any futher information?

this is brilliant. I remember Auntie Florrie as we called her. I have pictures of all the girls but I cannot name them properly nowadays. it would be good if you have pictures so I can get Florence right. also info on family trees. if you can send a personal message through the forum we can compare notes. I haven't worked out how to do it yet.
the only extra info I have are Henry's brothers and sisters names Edmund, Elizabeth and Alfred.
Also Henry's mother is called Sarah but husbands name is unknown as he died
before 1841. Sarah was a shopkeeper but I am still tracing that. At the moment I can't find a marriage certificate but again I don't give up easily.
hope to hear from you soon.

this is brilliant. I remember Auntie Florrie as we called her. I have pictures of all the girls but I cannot name them properly nowadays. it would be good if you have pictures so I can get Florence right. also info on family trees. if you can send a personal message through the forum we can compare notes. I haven't worked out how to do it yet.
the only extra info I have are Henry's brothers and sisters names Edmund, Elizabeth and Alfred.
Also Henry's mother is called Sarah but husbands name is unknown as he died
before 1841. Sarah was a shopkeeper but I am still tracing that. At the moment I can't find a marriage certificate but again I don't give up easily.
hope to hear from you soon.

New to computers so I dont know either. I have some photo's of my grandparents, they had a pub on Moore street called the Oxford House, Green was her married name his name was Thomas William, he died in 1944 but she carried on in the pub with the help of my parents. I think one of the sisters went to Australia but not sure which one. I might try and get a birth certificate for Harry that should tell us more.

Hi Diksey - thanks for getting back. I have contacted the help desk about mailing you privately but had no response. can anyone help us from the forum, please?
In the meantime it seems a good idea to get the birth certificate - I haven't got round to it yet as I am trying to juggle with both sides of my family.
Do you know the married names of Annie and Elsie?

Hi Diksey - thanks for getting back. I have contacted the help desk about mailing you privately but had no response. can anyone help us from the forum, please?
In the meantime it seems a good idea to get the birth certificate - I haven't got round to it yet as I am trying to juggle with both sides of my family.
Do you know the married names of Annie and Elsie?

Sorry, I dont know what happend to the other members of the family, although as well as Austrailia, Manchester comes to mind. I have a postcard written by Harry, I think, to someone in Manchester but it was never sent. I also remember granreceiving Australian pound notes but who they were from I dont know. I meant to say get birth certificate for Henry, not Harry. I too am doing both sides of family. Good luck with it.