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kimba
19-06-2008, 12:10
i cannot stop my dog from barking :(
ive rescued him and now im thinking i know why they have given him up.
he keeps me up all night and barks all day.
he is on the garden just running around barking at nothing all the time.
i have tried ignoring him,i have tried squirting him with water ive spent hours trying allsorts but i fear i will never get him out of it and i may have to send him back which i really dont want too do but i really cannot take much more :help:
sarah

beansfeast
19-06-2008, 12:21
Where did you get him from and have you tried getting in touch with a behavouralist?

vikki
19-06-2008, 12:22
what breed is he?

the best thing to do is not acknowedge him at all when barking as he will see it as you barking back. have you tried stones in a plastic bottle if you throw it to the groung when he starts pick it back up and if he barks again do it again.

kimba
19-06-2008, 12:32
Where did you get him from and have you tried getting in touch with a behavouralist?

i got him from bullies in need 3 weeks ago and i thought he might have needed time to settle in and the barking would stop but it hasnt.
i have not tryed a behavouralist does anyone know of any im in s5.
i need to do something as i have a constant headache i just dont know what too do with him :confused:

beansfeast
19-06-2008, 12:40
I haven't heard of that place, just do a search on Yell.com for dog behavouralists you'll easily find them about... I had to use them for my past 2 dogs and found them very helpful. Just give them a call to start off with and see what they have to say, if you think it'll work pay for a session and take it from there!

I found it extremely useful to be told what signs to look out for and understood far better what my dogs where trying to do after a couple of sessions.

Good luck! :thumbsup:

kimba
19-06-2008, 12:40
what breed is he?

the best thing to do is not acknowedge him at all when barking as he will see it as you barking back. have you tried stones in a plastic bottle if you throw it to the groung when he starts pick it back up and if he barks again do it again.

he is a 15 month old english bull terrier
i have tryed to ignore him when he is barking but its not as iff he is barking at us or at others.
im in the room now and the kitchen door is open so he can run around outside and he is barking at nothing.
just running up and down constantly barking he comes in the kitchen and barks argggggg i cant take anymore.
thanks for the advice about the bottle i will try it today
sarah

AKITA
19-06-2008, 12:44
http://www.eurobarkcontrol.com/ds_ultimate.htm

http://www.ehow.com/how_14259_stop-dogs-excessive.html

http://www.perfectpaws.com/bark.html

http://www.clickertraining.com/node/1125

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080618010620AAaXamk

katkin
19-06-2008, 12:48
Have a look at this http://doggiewoggie.com/a/dogs-barking-is-driving-me-crazy/

kimba
19-06-2008, 13:01
http://www.eurobarkcontrol.com/ds_ultimate.htm

http://www.ehow.com/how_14259_stop-dogs-excessive.html

http://www.perfectpaws.com/bark.html

http://www.clickertraining.com/node/1125

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080618010620AAaXamk

thanks akita thats all really good advice too
i have had to bring him in the house now as the neighbours are going barmy and i dont blame them i feel like just getting away from him for a bit.

Helly
19-06-2008, 13:03
My eldest dog barks a hell of a lot. Mainly because she just likes to hear her own voice. In the car it's the worst and very little we do helps at all.

Best of luck sorting your dog out!

kimba
19-06-2008, 13:05
Have a look at this http://doggiewoggie.com/a/dogs-barking-is-driving-me-crazy/

thanks katkin
i read about a rawhide in that link what is one of them ?

teeny
19-06-2008, 16:58
try Pming Lottie she is very good with dogs

shihtzumad
19-06-2008, 17:06
I can recommed http://www.keithdickinson.co.uk/ he will offer you free advice, give him a ring, he his very good. Hope things settle down for you, nothing worse the constant barking;

Keith is based in Barnsley.

helenasq
19-06-2008, 17:10
Hi Sarah, sorry to hear Benson is not improving.I think he's just guarding his territory with you being on a corner like myself.If you try a behaviourist and it works let me know. Good luck.
Helen

Dozy
19-06-2008, 17:16
I do feel sorry for you, my Mina sometimes sets off barking and then doesn't know when to shut up! She sets off next door's boxer and then they seem to egg each other on. But it's never for more than 10-15 minutes, and that's enough to drive me nuts.

I took a rescue dog on Tuesday, from RainRescue, and he's quite stressed so he snivels a lot, which is wearing on the nerves, but he's settling a bit and RainRescue are getting me a DAP collar and difuser, in the hopes that will calm him a bit.

I used the DAPs (http://www.animalmedicines.co.uk/search.php?mode=search) with Mina last bonfire night, because she gets herself into a right state when the bangs start. I was surprised at just how well it worked - she got slightly upset, but only when the noise was at its worst, and she certainly wasn't nearly as distressed as she usually gets.

I don't know if they'd be any good with helping yours to stop barking, but they certainly seem to chill dogs out nicely.

Good luck.

dogs4life
19-06-2008, 17:25
thanks katkin
i read about a rawhide in that link what is one of them ?

It is just something to chew that is made out of pig or cow hide - what sort of food do you feed him on? Have you phoned Bullies to let them know of the barking problem - maybe they will have an answer for you or at least tell you if he did this while they had him. I have a collie x terrier who loves to hear herself bark but the water squirt soon sorted her out - now I just have to put the bottle in the same room and she knows there is no more messing :hihi:

moetchampers
19-06-2008, 17:51
This works,ive used one and my dog is cured!!

http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/dog-stop-alarm_1_18833.html

SpeedDemon
19-06-2008, 18:01
Does this really work then moetchampers? I'm tempted to try that for my GSD. I'm wondering if it would stop him jumping and barking at the parrot every time I leave the room :help:

kimba
19-06-2008, 18:14
well im not kidding you but id go through that spray in a hour he barks that much
ive just called the dog trainer i think shtzumad recomended but there in barnsley :(
i am really keen though to get him in to some classes as i think it might help
does anyone know of any classes in or around s5 ?
and thankyou for all the replies they are relly helpfull.
sarah

Moonbird
19-06-2008, 18:19
This works,ive used one and my dog is cured!!

http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/dog-stop-alarm_1_18833.html

What does this do?

kimba
19-06-2008, 18:22
It is just something to chew that is made out of pig or cow hide - what sort of food do you feed him on? Have you phoned Bullies to let them know of the barking problem - maybe they will have an answer for you or at least tell you if he did this while they had him. I have a collie x terrier who loves to hear herself bark but the water squirt soon sorted her out - now I just have to put the bottle in the same room and she knows there is no more messing :hihi:

im feeding him on beta puppy dry complete from pets@home i have had to call back bullies in need and tell them that i cannot cope with the constant barking and they said they will send me out a coller for him and when he barks it will give him a small shock :suspect:
they also said that he never barked whilst they had him but he was kept in a cage.

shihtzumad
19-06-2008, 18:24
well im not kidding you but id go through that spray in a hour he barks that much
ive just called the dog trainer i think shtzumad recomended but there in barnsley :(
i am really keen though to get him in to some classes as i think it might help
does anyone know of any classes in or around s5 ?
and thankyou for all the replies they are relly helpfull.
sarah

Did keith give u any advice to try and stop it, are did his wife answer?

moetchampers
19-06-2008, 18:53
Does this really work then moetchampers? I'm tempted to try that for my GSD. I'm wondering if it would stop him jumping and barking at the parrot every time I leave the room :help:

yes it really really does work!:) read the gen on it to find out how it works

Dozy
19-06-2008, 18:55
well im not kidding you but id go through that spray in a hour he barks that much
ive just called the dog trainer i think shtzumad recomended but there in barnsley :(
i am really keen though to get him in to some classes as i think it might help
does anyone know of any classes in or around s5 ?
and thankyou for all the replies they are relly helpfull.
sarah

I found this training group (http://dagda.shef.ac.uk/help_yourself/full_search_new1.asp?group=23964&searchname=dog) in S5, hope it helps.

savbaby
19-06-2008, 19:05
im feeding him on beta puppy dry complete from pets@home i have had to call back bullies in need and tell them that i cannot cope with the constant barking and they said they will send me out a coller for him and when he barks it will give him a small shock :suspect:
they also said that he never barked whilst they had him but he was kept in a cage.

if he was kept in a cage maybe thats what you need to get, a cage for him to retreat to . it will have been his safe haven and he is probably missing it.

also you say you have tried everything but if you have only had him 3 weeks then thats not long enough to have tried 1 thing never mind everything! you have to decide what route your are going to take with training ans stick to it cause if you chop and change he will get confused.. as said already pm lotti she is great and gave me loads of help:D

waddy
19-06-2008, 19:12
How long have you had the dog?We have rescued a bitch only about 3 weeks ago.She whined and barked all night constantly and we'ed every where.It drove us mad but we thought she is in a strange place and she must have been so unsettled and frightened.She is settling down now.I would try everything people have suggested to stop the barking it must be driving you :loopy:I will ask about for a trainer for you as I am in s5 too.

waddy
19-06-2008, 19:13
Sorry I see you have had the dog for 3 weeks I should learn to read:hihi:Don't give up !!

vikki
19-06-2008, 19:40
please be careful giving him hide chews bullies teeth are sharp and they can just bite the end off and swallow it can swell in his throat or stomache and making him very poorly.

i would try a collar as well.

i understand how you feel i have a 3 year old bullie that has barking compitions with the rotties down the road but she has no learnt when i say quiet she shuts up.

dirend
19-06-2008, 19:59
Don't give up - choose 1 plan of action and stick with it. The bottle of stones works well but you've got to get your timing right and surprise him. If he's used to having a crate then i'd get him one. Eddie was crate trained and when i put it away he was like a lost soul so it's up again now and he's much happier.

kimba
19-06-2008, 20:12
if he was kept in a cage maybe thats what you need to get, a cage for him to retreat to . it will have been his safe haven and he is probably missing it.

also you say you have tried everything but if you have only had him 3 weeks then thats not long enough to have tried 1 thing never mind everything! you have to decide what route your are going to take with training ans stick to it cause if you chop and change he will get confused.. as said already pm lotti she is great and gave me loads of help:D

i have got a cage for him and i have been putting him in it
at first he was a bit quiter but it didnt take him long to slip back in to barking.
he barked most of the night lastnight and he was in his cage :(
i know wat you mean by me saying i have tryed everything and i agree i havent had him long enough and i doo need to stick to one method i just want him to be quite for a bit give me a little break and stop barking

kimba
19-06-2008, 20:17
I found this training group (http://dagda.shef.ac.uk/help_yourself/full_search_new1.asp?group=23964&searchname=dog) in S5, hope it helps.

many thanks dozy thats great im off on tuesday night to that group its just around the corner from me.
i really hope they can help us

medusa
19-06-2008, 20:17
Is his crate covered so he doesn't get to look at other things round the room to find things to bark at? A big blanket over 3 sides of the crate will allow him to be secure in his little den.

If you leave a light on for him, turn it off. You want him to get the message that dark is a time for sleeping.

I hope you have a break through with him soon kimba.

dogs4life
19-06-2008, 20:20
kimba the reason I asked about what you were feeding him is because some dogs can be really hyper if the protein content of their food is high ( a bit like giving kids smarties) My collie cross is a different dog depending on how high the protein is - she is now on low protein mixer and meat, anything higher than 7% and she is a nightmare. The crate may be a good idea to give him his own safe den area - I have a spare one if you want to try it out. Rescue dogs do take that extra commitment and can take a while to settle (we have had Sherri from 3 months of age and she had been in the pound twice before we got her) by our second week I could see why and wondered if we had made a huge mistake but now she is two years old and a brilliant dog - dig deep and don't give up yet x

kimba
19-06-2008, 20:33
Did keith give u any advice to try and stop it, are did his wife answer?

his wife answerd the phone and she said that they did dog training classes but in barnsley
i told her a little about him and she said dont ignore him as he will just think its ok to bark.
im going to the classes in firth park next to where i live and hopefully they can help us
thanks
sarah

babyboom
19-06-2008, 21:12
There is a dog training class at Christ Church church hall at Halifax Road at Wadsley bridge, on Monday evenings, not sure if it is 7pm start. I don't have a number but I'm sure if you ring the church they will know as this class has been going on for years.

babyboom
19-06-2008, 21:21
Just found the details:
WADSLEY BRIDGE DOG OBEDIENCE SOCIETY
Description Runs obedience classes for dogs.

Contact Details
Contact Name: Ann Crookes/Steve Crookes
Telephone 1: 0114 230 1436
Email: crookes@moscargrange.fsnet.co.uk

Venue and Meeting Times
Christ Church Hall
Halifax Road
Sheffield
South Yorkshire
S6 1AE
Meeting Details: Mon 7-10pm

Second Contact
Contact Name: Wayne Barber
Telephone 1: 0114 286 2125
Email: barley.cottage@hotmail.co.uk

Rainrescue
19-06-2008, 21:48
Kimba
How much lead work is he getting?
Bullies are fit dogs - and at his age - he will need to be doing at least 1 hours worth of lead work each and every day. Thats not off the lead running round the garden and playing, doing just what he wants to do, and its not running round in the park - its hard slog - on the lead - by your side.

Ideally - because he is doing this - i would give him even more work. Bullies can be very stubborn - and wilful - I know - I have 2 of them, their nicknames are 'the nightmares'. I love them to bits - but give them an inch and they will take over.

He should not be allowed to run loose in the garden doing this silly noise. It will just make him and you more stressed. You do need expert help to sort it out - it is sort out able, because he wasn't doing it in the previous foster home - so something has thrown him with this move.

Be careful using some techniques - the timing is paramount with them. You need to stop the thought - as it enters the dogs head. By the time he is doing it, its too late.
Personally - I would get on the lead work - and hopefully - once drained of energy - he wont be able to stress out so much.

Good luck - stick with it, he will be worth it in the end.

sazzlebrin
19-06-2008, 21:50
could he be deaf ???

Rainrescue
19-06-2008, 22:01
thats a good point sazzle, but they do check them to make sure - and so would have said if he was.

just re read back - also, did you say that he is 3 years old? he should be on a low protein food - even as plain as chappie complete - bullies struggle with high protein.
I feed mine one from THE ALL NATURAL DOG FOOD COMPANY for sensitive tums - cos so much can send them hay wire

estweyn
20-06-2008, 05:38
Regarding the noisy blast thingy, I had one for Josh hopefully to distract him from his aggressive behaviour towards other dogs after all else failed, guess what, it failed. He was so intent on the other dog nothing would get through to him. More or less got it sorted not about 80% of the time, I think with any behaviour problem its a case of trial and error until you find the key that works for your dog.
Sorry no advice about barking dogs, mine are pretty quiet until someone comes then all hell lets loose.

katkin
20-06-2008, 09:05
kimba the reason I asked about what you were feeding him is because some dogs can be really hyper if the protein content of their food is high ( a bit like giving kids smarties) My collie cross is a different dog depending on how high the protein is - she is now on low protein mixer and meat, anything higher than 7% and she is a nightmare. The crate may be a good idea to give him his own safe den area - I have a spare one if you want to try it out. Rescue dogs do take that extra commitment and can take a while to settle (we have had Sherri from 3 months of age and she had been in the pound twice before we got her) by our second week I could see why and wondered if we had made a huge mistake but now she is two years old and a brilliant dog - dig deep and don't give up yet x

I can relate to this - when Ailsa was on IAMS she went hyper and that was the only time she was ever destructive. We switched her to Burns and Nature Diet and the transformation was amazing.

Given than Ailsa is a doberman, she is more than capable of using her booming bark to great effect and has had to be be taught when to speak and when not to speak - ignore her when she barks, praise her when she's quiet. I have to say though, a lot like bullies, dobes can be mightily stubborn and have selective deafness (AND they always have to have the last word so even when we do shut her up she grumbles to herself at times...)

Having a crate was really helpful and soon quietened her down at night- we used to cover it over at night and make it dark and cosy for her. When we left her during the day we left the radio on and prevented her from getting into the front room so she could not bark at passers by or the postman. We still do it now (except she doesnt need a crate anymore) and we always come home at lunchtime to check on her. According to our neighbours, she is very quiet and you would hardly know we had a dog when we're not at home...

We always take Ailsa for a long walk every morning and then just before we leave for work she is fed. We leave her a dog treat (used to stuff a KONG with things to keep her occupied for hours) A tired out dog is more likely to be a happy and relaxed dog and having a routine helps Ailsa to understand when to be quiet and when she be giddy. Puppy socialisation and obedience training are also a must - it helps to reiniforce the bond between dog and owner and teaches the owner that actually not all the problems are the fault of the dog - we can all learn something.

I havent tried any of the bark collars but have resorted to the rattle bottle or the mikki training discs on occasions. Ignoring her when she is showing off also works eventually but i would seriously recc getting a KONG to give your bullie something to focus their energy and attention on. I'm sure I still have Ailsa's kicking about somewher and we never use it now- you're welcome to it if you want to give it a go - stuff it with cheap meat paste, dog treats/ biscuits or cheese

There are times when she barks to tells us something or to ask for something (she'll nod her head towards the thing she is trying to show us or ask us for) and some of her barks can be quite expressive, so are not always a bad thing, but I can see where constant barking would be a pain. Hope this can be resolved for you - it would be a shame if your rescue had to go back into rescue when I'm sure there will be a solution out there, given time.

Rainrescue
20-06-2008, 10:03
Why not get one of these?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BARKBUSTER-CONTROL-COLLAR-646-ELECTRONIC/dp/B0013YCSW0

I know Lisa at BIN is away this week - and this is probably what to get and try
i would think its worth it. I know they have fundraising stuff all weekend. If you get it they would re-imburse if you need it -

Have a look what it is thats upsetting him - screaming - other dogs barking?

katkin
20-06-2008, 11:05
It's got to be worth a try at that price. I wonder if Kimba is trying to tell you something but not having a lot of success (us humans don't speak 'dog'!).

kimba
20-06-2008, 13:30
hello
thankyou for all the replies i have taken them all onboard :)
i am going to order the coller (thankyou for the link jacqui) i am also going to do more of the lead training too as when i have been taking him out i have been letting him off the lead to burn off energy but like people have said he needs to be lead trained so on that note were back of out for along walk to school.
i really appreciate all the messages as yesterday i felt really fed up and fed up off benson but you all told me to keep trying and thats wat i am going to do.
bye for now
sarah

Dozy
20-06-2008, 14:59
hello
thankyou for all the replies i have taken them all onboard :)
i am going to order the coller (thankyou for the link jacqui) i am also going to do more of the lead training too as when i have been taking him out i have been letting him off the lead to burn off energy but like people have said he needs to be lead trained so on that note were back of out for along walk to school.
i really appreciate all the messages as yesterday i felt really fed up and fed up off benson but you all told me to keep trying and thats wat i am going to do.
bye for now
sarah

When you're at the end of your tether with any problem, dog related or not, it can be such a relief to share your feelings with other people who actually know what you're going through and who can offer you help and, more importantly, support and encouragement.

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that the various suggestions made are helpful. I must say, I was very surprised to hear about the huge effect the type of food can have on behaviour.

Good luck.

dogs4life
20-06-2008, 15:45
Sarah,
I would really try to change his food for a lower protein one- if he is anything like my dog the results were instant and made such a difference - good luck

Rainrescue
24-06-2008, 22:43
How are you doing with the exercise Kimba?

Whats happening with the little bully?

Strix
24-06-2008, 23:11
I can fully sympathise with your situation kimba! I fostered a staffy who refused to stop barking, and by day four I was sat on the kitchen floor with my laptop on my knee desperate for somebody to talk to on messenger about it - phonecalls being completely out of the question!!

I used the crate method to quieten him down - well similar anyway. I had a babygate across the door to the kitchen, me on one side and him on the other. When he barked I closed the door, and when he drew breath (only time he stopped barking) I opened it. It didn't take him long to figure out what was going on

When in the living room we had him crated. If he barked the blanket went over the crate. As soon as he was quiet it was removed. The thing is, you have to be very rigid about this approach, and not do it as an exercise but as 'this is how it is'

I hope the collar helps you out :)

pink fairy
25-06-2008, 10:45
English bulls are quite strange charcters. They can be very hyper and insecure dogs. Has he been neutred ? If you can i would look at the English bull society see if they can help. A friend of mine used bark buster they are amazing. Good luck dont give up they will be answer out there. English bull do make good loyal pets.

vikki
25-06-2008, 13:26
Just found the details:
WADSLEY BRIDGE DOG OBEDIENCE SOCIETY
Description Runs obedience classes for dogs.

Contact Details
Contact Name: Ann Crookes/Steve Crookes
Telephone 1: 0114 230 1436
Email: crookes@moscargrange.fsnet.co.uk

Venue and Meeting Times
Christ Church Hall
Halifax Road
Sheffield
South Yorkshire
S6 1AE
Meeting Details: Mon 7-10pm

Second Contact
Contact Name: Wayne Barber
Telephone 1: 0114 286 2125
Email: barley.cottage@hotmail.co.uk

I go to this group with my girls we trainon the fields near the admiral rodney in the summer we are still there now.

we will also be doing a display at parkwood shcool fayre on the 5th July if anyone would like to pop and see what we do.

Rainrescue
25-06-2008, 23:18
The rescue who adopted this boy out contacted me today - he has been returned.

waddy
26-06-2008, 06:06
The rescue who adopted this boy out contacted me today - he has been returned.
That is so sad:( Only after having him a short time. I hope he finds a home soon.

vikki
26-06-2008, 10:04
awww such a shame but if she has tried everything she could maybe it is better for him to go to a new home with more experience. such a sad thing for him to be back in rescue thou at such a young age. :(

dirend
26-06-2008, 18:02
That is a shame, poor boy.