Would be interesting!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_3693685,00.html

If I was Villa i would be signing for a club likely to win something next year in the premiership, so that would discount Liverpool

If I was Villa i would be signing for a club likely to win something next year in the premiership, so that would discount Liverpool
If Liverpool sign Villa, or players of that calibre, there is every chance they will win something!

If Liverpool sign Villa, or players of that calibre, there is every chance they will win something!

That is what every Loserpool fan has been saying for the last............ how many years is it now? Is it 18 years?

That is what every Loserpool fan has been saying for the last............ how many years is it now? Is it 18 years?
How boring. I now remember why I stopped posting on this forum! No discussions..... just the same old boring comments from the same old boring people!

How boring. I now remember why I stopped posting on this forum! No discussions..... just the same old boring comments from the same old boring people!

Sorry, it was only a bit of banter.

Seriously I think it is no goer as Rafa seems to have found the formation that he wants, with Torres up front and Gerrard just behind him.

Sorry to burst the bubble but Villa wants to stay in Spain, either Real Madrid or Barca.

From what I've noticed in the Spanish games I don't think Villa and Torres could work with each other on a permanent basis. Anyone else noticed this?

From what I've noticed in the Spanish games I don't think Villa and Torres could work with each other on a permanent basis. Anyone else noticed this?

Are you joking? They look like the most natural strike partnership in the world at the moment.

From what I've noticed in the Spanish games I don't think Villa and Torres could work with each other on a permanent basis. Anyone else noticed this?

You maybe onto something as they have only managed 5 goals between them in 2 games. :roll:

Well that's two people who don't understand the meaning of "permanent basis." Anyone else want to show their ignorance?

Well that's two people who don't understand the meaning of "permanent basis." Anyone else want to show their ignorance?

I guess only time will tell, but I cannot see any reason that they would be incompatible as a strike partnership; can you?

Well that's two people who don't understand the meaning of "permanent basis." Anyone else want to show their ignorance?

We can only guess what's to come in the future by looking at the present. It might help if one of you incredible crystal balled loons could tell us why they might not work on a permanent basis, instead of blindly specualting.

I assume you say this so that if they fail to work well together in the future, you can come on here and gloat.

Well that's two people who don't understand the meaning of "permanent basis." Anyone else want to show their ignorance?

Wasnt gonna bite but sod it

If....IF Liverpool were to Sign Villa and partner him with Torres then im guessing they would both play
And Villa and Torres are regarded as Spains no 1 strike force

How the hell does that not make it permanent:loopy:

Some people just deserve a bite on the arse:hihi::hihi::hihi:

From what I've noticed in the Spanish games I don't think Villa and Torres could work with each other on a permanent basis. Anyone else noticed this?

You had a few too many drams today mate?:hihi:

They have looked brilliant together

Sorry to burst the bubble but Villa wants to stay in Spain, either Real Madrid or Barca.
Your right, Villa probably would like a move to one of the big clubs in Spain but with Barca being overloaded with forward players and Real Madrid looking to spend their full budget on Ronaldo, that seems unlikely! Also, the Valencia president has already stated that he doesn't want to sell to another Spanish club!

If Villa is to move to England, Liverpool look to be in pole position to grab his signiture, given what the player has already said in the press about the club!

i would love liverpool to sign him but they simply dont have the funds, rafa has to sell to buy at the minute which is why alonso is off to juventus so rafa can use the funds to bring in gareth barry(reportedly to be near the 20mil mark which is crazy!) add to that the possibilty of bentley and spare funds look thin on the ground- whilst it would be great to get villa i just cant see it

Would be interesting!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_3693685,00.html

The bosses at LFC are not even sure about £18m on Gareth Barry so i will watch in anticipation as to what they think David V is worth... and given his current form in euro 08, my guess would be £30m+

Liverpool have the capacity to unite these two great Spanish strikers. All they need to do is sell Torres to Chelski and Villa can join him there. No problem at all!.

I don't think that Torres could play second fiddle to Villa. Villa is obviously the better of the 2 players at the minute having scored 4 goals to Torres' 1 Torres will only continue to improve if he remains the main striker for a team, which is what he is just now at Liverpool. Kuyt is happy enough to partner him without competing with him. If you add Villa to the mix then I feel that would be a recipe for disaster.
If Barry joins Liverpool then the midfield will be strenthened, but I feel it is in defence where Liverpool's main weakness lies and that is where they need to concentrate in the Transfer Market.

Looks like my prediction of France not getting past the group stages was spot on. Bad luck with the sweep Bull Dog. ;) Let's see how Spain get on against "The Old Boys" now that they have finally got going. :hihi::hihi:

i would love liverpool to sign him but they simply dont have the funds, rafa has to sell to buy at the minute which is why alonso is off to juventus so rafa can use the funds to bring in gareth barry(reportedly to be near the 20mil mark which is crazy!)


I thought the whole point was that they classed 20mill as crazy - and wouldn't pay it...

I thought the whole point was that they classed 20mill as crazy - and wouldn't pay it...
And then Villa's only real plan to keep Barry works...

I don't think that Torres could play second fiddle to Villa. Villa is obviously the better of the 2 players at the minute having scored 4 goals to Torres' 1 Torres will only continue to improve if he remains the main striker for a team, which is what he is just now at Liverpool. Kuyt is happy enough to partner him without competing with him. If you add Villa to the mix then I feel that would be a recipe for disaster.
If Barry joins Liverpool then the midfield will be strenthened, but I feel it is in defence where Liverpool's main weakness lies and that is where they need to concentrate in the Transfer Market.

Looks like my prediction of France not getting past the group stages was spot on. Bad luck with the sweep Bull Dog. ;) Let's see how Spain get on against "The Old Boys" now that they have finally got going. :hihi::hihi:

Friggin froggies,heres hoping Portugal win it as our lass has got em

And agreed about Pools defence,they need a centre back and a full back

if carricka nd hargreaves are worth 18ish million then you have to say barry is too. but liverpool just dont have the funds to buy villa and i hate to say it but i think they are going to move backwards over the next 2-3 years.

if carricka nd hargreaves are worth 18ish million then you have to say barry is too. but liverpool just dont have the funds to buy villa and i hate to say it but i think they are going to move backwards over the next 2-3 years.

Perhaps Liverpool and Everton should consider a merger, as that's the only way they're realistically going to force their way into the Top 3 again.

Perhaps Liverpool and Everton should consider a merger, as that's the only way they're realistically going to force their way into the Top 3 again.

i would rather be relegated for the rest of the clubs history than murge with liverpool.

im happy as we are, coming out of a turbulant phase in which i remember many a season in which we had to wait until the last day of the season before we were safe! stuggling with debt, selling any half decent player we had times were hard and my liverpool supporting family members made it tougher. it used to be a derby victory was the best we could hope for in a season.

But through good management and stability we have totally changed our aspirations and are making steady progress in catching liverpool. we have spent a fraction of the money other clubs have in the past 6 years, instead relying on players from the championship or players having a hard time at their current club. picking up cahill, arteta, carsley and piennar for a total of about £7 million is excellent business!

our club is now held up by rival players and managers as a shining beacon of how to go about your business.

we havent won anything yet but its a lot better being an evertonian now than it was 10 or even 5 years ago!
and they wont admit it but liverpool fans are starting to look over their shoulders..

Why on earth would they want to merge?

Everton, I mean!!

Perhaps Liverpool and Everton should consider a merger, as that's the only way they're realistically going to force their way into the Top 3 again.

Never gonna happen
Got more chance of Owls and Blades merging or seeing pigs fly

But through good management and stability we have totally changed our aspirations and are making steady progress in catching liverpool...Sorry to burst your bubble mate but the facts prove this just isn't the case!

The season just gone Liverpool finished 11 points ahead of Everton as apposed to 10 points the year before, which shows Liverpool are getting further away from Everton if anything! Not steady progress whichever way you look at it!

Talking about progress though, Liverpool finished 11 points behind the league winners (Man Utd) the season just gone, as apposed to 21 points the season before! Now that is progress!

If, as everyone is saying, Liverpool (who finished 11 points behind Utd) can't possibly catch them, then Everton (who finished 11 points behind Liverpool) surely can't possibly catch us?

I would say that Everton are as far behind Liverpool as Liverpool are behind Utd, but I suppose it's totally different despite the facts hey Preach?

Why on earth would they want to merge?

Everton, I mean!!
Maybe you should merge with Sloth from Goonies Guddy? Then again, there wouldn't be much point, seeing as the two of you are so simular!

Perhaps Liverpool and Everton should consider a merger, as that's the only way they're realistically going to force their way into the Top 3 again.
Liverpool have finished in the top three more times than Arsenal within the last five years Basil! Aswell as winning far more throphies and getting to far more finals!

but liverpool just dont have the funds to buy villa
Where is all this 'lack of funds' coming from?

Liverpool will only pay around £15m for Barry before looking elsewhere. If the transfer goes through then the sale of Alonso (approx £15m) will pay for this!

Dossena (who is close to signing) will cost around £7-8m). Crouch, who is on the verge of joining Pompey for around £8m, again pays for this!

Then there is the sale of Riise, who is on the verge of a £5m move to Roma.

So far Liverpool, after the potential signing of two players and the sale of three, will be around £5-6m in profit!

Now, Liverpool ALWAYS have around £25 - £30m to spend on transfers EVERY year, so add that to the profit gained and it adds up to something in the region of £30 - £35m to spend on purchasing players!

Let's also add the probable sales of Carson and Pennant amongst others which will fetch in a few quid, and Liverpool don't look to have such a weakened budget do they?

How people come to the conclusion that Liverpool have limited funds is beyond me. Nobody from Liverpool FC has ever come out and actually said it so i'm assuming that it's just forum posters speculating rather than actually knowing, which is what they seem to think!

its just the fact they are debt with two tight-fisted moronic owners that makes me think there is a lack of funds, surely if there was money there rafa wouldnt have to sell before he could buy? im sure he would like to keep alonso and crouch maybe even carson but he has to sell to bring players in. the sooner d.i.c come in the better(although i dont know the latest progress on that proposed move?)

Villa would be a good signing but Liverpool dont really have £30mil spare to spend again on another striker plus Villa has said he is happy at Valencia.

That took me far too long to realise that it was David Villa and not Aston Villa...ahem
Would be a great partnership, however do liverpool really need another striker? the end of last season seemed to be working out ok, although liverpool do seem to be a constant dissapointment in the league.
Cant see Villa moving tbh anyway

Maybe you should merge with Sloth from Goonies Guddy? Then again, there wouldn't be much point, seeing as the two of you are so simular!

Hey you guysss!!!!

Sorry to burst your bubble mate but the facts prove this just isn't the case!

The season just gone Liverpool finished 11 points ahead of Everton as apposed to 10 points the year before, which shows Liverpool are getting further away from Everton if anything! Not steady progress whichever way you look at it!

Talking about progress though, Liverpool finished 11 points behind the league winners (Man Utd) the season just gone, as apposed to 21 points the season before! Now that is progress!

If, as everyone is saying, Liverpool (who finished 11 points behind Utd) can't possibly catch them, then Everton (who finished 11 points behind Liverpool) surely can't possibly catch us?

I would say that Everton are as far behind Liverpool as Liverpool are behind Utd, but I suppose it's totally different despite the facts hey Preach?

we dropped away at the end due to our small squad but we were 4th for a while. if moyes increases the squad size, which he is doing, then we will push you harder. and your miles behind man u and chelsea..


and i could be wrong but you seem to be doing an awful lot of speculating in your figures.. its obvious to every man and his dog that liverpool dont have much to spend. if they did you would have barry already instead of haggling over the fee you cant afford.

its just the fact they are debt with two tight-fisted moronic owners that makes me think there is a lack of funds
They funded the moves for Torres - £21m, Mascherano - £17m, Lucas - £6m, Babel - £11.5m, Skirtel - £6m, Benayoun - £5m amongst others ata total of £66.5m shortly after arriving at Liverpool.
I'm not a fan of the yanks don't get me wrong, but they can hardly be classed as tight-fisted mate!
surely if there was money there rafa wouldnt have to sell before he could buy? im sure he would like to keep alonso and crouch maybe even carson but he has to sell to bring players in.
Maybe Alonso is being allowed to leave because if Barry is signed, a central midfield that already contains Gerrard, Mascherano and Lucas, is maybe a little over-crowded maybe? Five players fighting for two positions is a little too many maybe? Also, Alonso being sold pays for Barry to sign... good business in my eyes!

As for Crouch and Carson, both players have publicly stated that playing second fiddle is not an option next season. Crouch was offered a new contract, which he declined, instead telling the manager that firstteam football was what he needed, which of course Rafa can not give him!
Carson also made it pretty clear that at 21 yrs old and being very talented, also didn't want to play second fiddle to Pepe Reine, therefore leaving the manager no option but to sell him.

Surely mate you understand that when players are brought in, other players have to be moved out, otherwise you would have a massive pool of players that would be impossible to keep happy!

we dropped away at the end due to our small squad but we were 4th for a while. if moyes increases the squad size, which he is doing, then we will push you harder. and your miles behind man u and chelsea...
11 points behind them Preach.... exactly the same as Everton were behind Liverpool!!

and i could be wrong but you seem to be doing an awful lot of speculating in your figures.. its obvious to every man and his dog that liverpool dont have much to spend. if they did you would have barry already instead of haggling over the fee you cant afford.
:hihi: Or maybe it's that Liverpool don't want to pay £20m for a player that is worth more like £12m! Come on Preach teams always haggle. The fact that MON is digging his heals in and quoting a stupid valuation on his player is the reason Liverpool are haggling mate, or do you justexpect Liverpool to hand over £20m just like that even though Barry is worth no where near that :hihi:

They funded the moves for Torres - £21m, Mascherano - £17m, Lucas - £6m, Babel - £11.5m, Skirtel - £6m, Benayoun - £5m amongst others ata total of £66.5m shortly after arriving at Liverpool.
I'm not a fan of the yanks don't get me wrong, but they can hardly be classed as tight-fisted mate! but that wasnt their money they borrowed 300mil from the banks which is an LFC debt which LFC have to pay back,these fools havent put any of their own money in, they dont care about LFC its just a money maker to them, if they cared about LFC they would sell to D.I.C but they are holding out to make as much money as possible, why do you think so many lfc fans want these two out? didnt you think the protests after the games last season were for a reason?

but that wasnt their money they borrowed 300mil from the banks which is an LFC debt which LFC have to pay back,these fools havent put any of their own money in, they dont care about LFC its just a money maker to them, if they cared about LFC they would sell to D.I.C but they are holding out to make as much money as possible, why do you think so many lfc fans want these two out? didnt you think the protests after the games last season were for a reason?
:hihi: Of course they were for a reason - because us fans want them to sell up and go home!
Gillett and Hicks have made a right balls up of most things whilst being at the club such as relations, press conferences and the much publicised divide between the two but one thing they have done is what 99% of all club owners do, loan money! However, the £300m they loaned was to actually buy the club and to get things moving with regards to the new stadium. Nearly all owners loan money to buy their clubs though stonerose! You don't actually believe that they just go a draw out xxx amount of millions from their own banks and hand it over do you :hihi:
The transfer money made available however is a combination of their own money and the money generated by the general running of the club!

This link goes a little way to explain that the yanks are going to back Rafa in the transfer window by whichever means possible:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_3714899,00.html

Mate, all club owners are 'in it for the money'. Running a football club is alot more complexed than what you seem to think. Yes we want the yanks out, but in many ways they are no different to the yanks that own the Manks. The loan that they took out to buy Utd is also held against the club! The only difference is that the Glazers don't rock the boat and they are good at public relations..... something our yanks are not!

well yeh i agree with most of what your saying, your spot on with the p.r thing, G+H have done things which arent considered "the liverpool way" such as annoucing they were planning to replace rafa etc which the media has blown up, trust me i would love liverpool to get villa im just sceptical

Liverpool have the capacity to unite these two great Spanish strikers. All they need to do is sell Torres to Chelski and Villa can join him there. No problem at all!.


Ha ha ha ha ha, that is so true, but not pleased at ALL that you pointed it out !:(

well yeh i agree with most of what your saying, your spot on with the p.r thing, G+H have done things which arent considered "the liverpool way" such as annoucing they were planning to replace rafa etc which the media has blown up, trust me i would love liverpool to get villa im just sceptical
The most frustrating thing is that Villa would probably be willing to join Liverpool, it's just a case of will Rafa sacrifice all other targets to achieve it? I doubt it very much!

A more likely signing however is David Silva (Villa's current teamate). Rumours are gathering pace that a bid for the left sided player is just around the corner!!

The most frustrating thing is that Villa would probably be willing to join Liverpool, it's just a case of will Rafa sacrifice all other targets to achieve it? I doubt it very much!

A more likely signing however is David Silva (Villa's current teamate). Rumours are gathering pace that a bid for the left sided player is just around the corner!!

Odds on its gonna be Stewart Downing!!!

I have been away so long.. I've missed this!
And it seems the same people are STILL playing the same record :D

Would I like to see Villa in the premiership?
Yes I would and I think it could work with Torres.

Will it happen?
Nope.

Sorry - but as usual, Liverpool won't be winning the title anytime soon.

ANG

I have been away so long..
Not long enough!
And it seems the same people are STILL playing the same record :D
Nope. This topic has never been discussed before!
Would I like to see Villa in the premiership?
Yes I would and I think it could work with Torres.
Absolutely!
Will it happen?
Nope.
Maybe not but we are allowed to discuss it as this is a public forum!
Sorry - but as usual, Liverpool won't be winning the title anytime soon.
Considering the quality of the oppostion, you might be right, but if they do....
I will totally relish reminding you over and over and over again! :D

Odds on its gonna be Stewart Downing!!!
Can't see that mate tbh!