hi i have the tailsmoon whispers fans and my fan connector doesnt work so iam going to solder the 3 wires to a 5v source but can any1 tell me where to wire the red,black,white wires to please. thanks

hi guys iam lost ive done a quick picture on ms paint to see if it would work and would this run at 5v. i dont mind if it runs more i just dont want it running at 12v its way to loud. thanks for the help people

here is a pic

http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roughpicbp3.jpg

why not just take the 12v down using a 5v and a 1.3v voltage drop diode wired in series?, giving you a total of 5.7v or a ~300ohm resistor which would give you around 6-6.5v

because iam not that good at all that. i just got told if i solder the 3 wires up would work. but in that picture i dont no if that will make it under 12v.

because iam not that good at all that. i just got told if i solder the 3 wires up would work. but in that picture i dont no if that will make it under 12v.

Nah, soldiering them up that way will run the fan at 12v, not below.

willing to pay somebody to solder it up to make it run under 12v because iam having no luck or the answers i need to make it run under 12v. dont mind if it runs and 5v or 7v

anybody then

If you can solder a fan to the board then adding a cuople of diodes in series shouldn;t be a challenge. If it is then I'd get rid of your soldering iron.

i can solder but its just tryin to find a good 5v or 7.5 source m8

I already told you what to do, and if you can solder, it shouldnt be too much of a problem for you.

why not just take the 12v down using a 5v and a 1.3v voltage drop diode wired in series?, giving you a total of 5.7v or a ~300ohm resistor which would give you around 6-6.5v

oh didnt see that ta m8 lol

where can i get the wire and the 5v and a 1.3v voltage drop diodes from

Wire and diodes from Maplins, or my favourite choice, Bardwells. The 5V comes from the end of the diodes?

thankd ppl. oh could sum1 do me a rough picture how to wire it all up and use this picture as a reference thanks again.

http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pwrconnectormp4.jpg

the wires on the fan are red, black and white

done a pic so just need sum1 to put in the drop down diodes

http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roughpicbp3.jpg

put Spot, Diode, Diode, Red

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cant u use my pic and put then on there so i know for sure. i dont want to be messing the motherbored up lol.

Get someone else to do it.

been on Maplins and i dont know what Diodes i need

do i need a Diode on the red wire and the white wire.

Might be a daft Q but cant you get similar fans that are usb powered and use one of your usb slots off the 360?

i dont no to be honest m8

just want it fixing willing to pay someboddy for 10 mins work

just want it fixing willing to pay someboddy for 10 mins work

Sorry if to post in this thread a year later, but i just came across it and thought i would post in case people are still having trouble.

Scotty, i gave up on finding alternate 5v points on the motherboard, but after thinking of many ways around the problem, i came across one that might actually work - using the USB port at the back of the console.

I found out that USB carries 5v power as well as the data, so this was a decent idea. I made sure that the current in the USB cable could handle the current in the whisper max fans so that there weren't any complications later. USB allows for 500mA max current, and the fan's current is at a low 100mA to 200mA.

In other words, the USB ports were a valid alternative 5v source. So I looked online for pinouts of both USB ports and 3 pin fan connectors, and after some trial and error, i found that out of the 3 pins, the 2 outer pins (red and white) were the power for each of the fans, while the middle pin (black) was the ground.
In the USB cable, there are 4 wires - Green (Data1), White (Data2), Red (Power), Black (ground). But seeing we only needed the power side of things, i cut off the green and white wires seeing they were useless. So after some theory, i got straight down to practical, which was easy after looking at some diagrams and pinouts online.

What we need is a male 3 pin - male usb adapter. Click the links for help on this.

Cable Wiring - ht tp://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/dannyboyinxs/Image1. jpg (remove spaces in link - this is my first post)
* Feed the cut end of the USB cable into the xbox before you start soldering! Otherwise you won't be able to feed either end of the adapter cable through!

Motherboard Wiring - http ://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/dannyboyinxs/Image2. jpg (remove spaces in link - this is my first post)

Make sure the USB cable is small enough to fit through the ventilation holes at the back of the case. After it is through, strip what's inside the case because the fans won't click in if it's too tight. It can be tricky feeding the cable inside the xbox through the ventilation holes, so be extra careful not to damage anything like the nitro switch (which i ended up having to resolder after too many mistakes and impatience).

You will find gaps inside the whisper max fans that you can feed the small wires through.
If you can't feed it through, don't worry - you can drill a hole where the serial numbers are.
The rest is up to you

I hope this helps. Good luck with the fix!
Note: USB ports are always powered, even when the console is off. This means the fans will keep running in 5v mode unless you.
1. Press the switch to 12v mode
2. Pull out the USB cable
3. Turn off the power from the wall

Theres only 2 power cables for the fans, red and black, black being ground, white is defunct and used as an RPM detector cable for suppoted devices, putting a 5v supply down this cable could potentially damage the fan.

as far as using the back USB goes, that's a valid way, but you can also use the connector on the back of the drive, and the front usb ports too, you can also use the various 5v points on the board (including the direct 5v in from the power supply, Pin 8 is 5 volts)

Does should not be allowed sharp implements spring to mind anyone?

Theres only 2 power cables for the fans, red and black, black being ground, white is defunct and used as an RPM detector cable for suppoted devices, putting a 5v supply down this cable could potentially damage the fan.

as far as using the back USB goes, that's a valid way, but you can also use the connector on the back of the drive, and the front usb ports too, you can also use the various 5v points on the board (including the direct 5v in from the power supply, Pin 8 is 5 volts)

I noticed when connecting the black and red wires of the whisper max fans, only one of the two would work. I realised that each fan had it's own power, therefore, the 2 outer pins had to be connected to eachother prior to the power/ground USB connection... if that makes any sense. From what i gathered, there wasn't a special pin in the whisper max fans like in many pc cpu fans. (RPM detector)

You could use the front USB ports, however, the back one was easier to access and less ugly - I didn't really want a USB cable hanging out of my box to start with, let alone the front. However, the only reason you would perhaps choose the front, is because of the wireless adapter. I have to unplug the cable and leave it in nitro mode in order to use wireless, but i have a LAN socket in the wall now, so i don't need wireless anymore.

The reason i used USB is because i didn't really want to start messing around with points on the board. I saw many tutorials online requiring the desoldering and replacement of certain transistors/mosfets, but this was beyond what i was expecting.

If anyone could add any other ways on feeding cables externally from within the box, it would be great seeing this was one of my problems and may be an even bigger problem for someone else.