Well as most of you will have noticed from my previous threads we've had some bother with Scarlett's feeding.

After being changed onto Hypoallergenic milk by the gastroenterologist due to being allergic to dairy, I can't get her to take a bottle.

She's just screaming and after an ounce or so she will not drink anymore. I've tried to feed her on and off all day and she's spent most of the time screaming. When I do manage to get some down her she has such bad wind that it makes her cry so hard until I manage to get her to burp (this has never been a problem before and she's always been the easiest baby to wind, you just had to sit her forward and she'd burp)

On top of this she had a poo today that was black. She's not on any iron supplements so it can't be that. I put it down to the new milk and if it's still the same tomorrow I'll take her to the gp.

I know I need to persevere on the new milk (Neocate) as it's best for her but it's getting hard not only to listen to her screaming but knowing she's hungry but wont feed.

Any ideas, tips or suggestions?

This might seem a bit left field but you may want to investigate Oseopathy. It is quite possible that the problem can be to do with unresolved tensions within the skeletal system, in particular cranial osteopathy. We have recently had treatment for my lo at The Osteopathic Practice in Broomhill. Chris Johnson, the Osteopath treats children and young babies with all sorts of ailments with amazing results. My lo was having trouble getting to sleep, and properly settling for the night. After 3 sessions over about 5 weeks things have settled right down and he now sleeps through, after 14 months of 5 or more times a night waking!

I wish you success in finding the right solution for your lo. There are also other things you may want to look at - accpressure / accupuncture / homeopathy. The body, I am finding increasingly these days, has amazing powers of being able to try to tell us something is wrong, and suggesting that we do something to improve the situation.

Good luck :)

thanks for that, she's still only little (12 weeks) and I don't know if thats too young? Might be something to look into.

Were you bf before? If so, maybe she still wants you.

They advice that when you want/ need to introduce a bottle to let someone else do it as you smell too much of milk. maybe even leaving the room.

I know that this is not always possible but at least now in the evening it might be worth a try.

Hope it all gets sorted.

P.S. Did you get your RS yet?

Anniec she is not too young for osteopathy. They can do it frm birth apparently.

anyone have a link for this cranial osteopathy please?

My osteopath also specialises in cranial and neonatal osteopathy. It's definitely safe from birth. Her name's Lisa Halse and she practices at the Lodge House in Walkley and a couple of other places.

Oh annie, you must be so upset especially after she had improved so much on the soya milk.

http://www.theosteopathicpractice.com/

the website of the practice we go to - oh I've been going there as well for a vertigo!

For tips on feeding babies who won't feed for whatever reason, I found the website www.kellymom.com really useful. I hope it helps, :)

How about doing a more gradual transition for her, a bit sneaky but it might work.
Go back to the soy milk you had but replace say 20% with the neocate, then tomorrow replace 30% and keep going with an increased 10% each day. I know it's going against the advice given and I don't know if it would be for the best but perhaps she'd take the transition better?
If you do do it, and I know you are bright enough to work it out but I feel I must say it, do the maths and work out the quantities of each properly so she isn't made ill by a strange ratio of water to formula.
I'd hate for someone to come over this thread is years to come and decide it's the best advice and make sludge for some poor baby.

I'm sorry you're having this problem, it sounds horrendous. Poor you and poor Scarlett. I think you should definitely go back to the docs about this. I know they were concerned about her becoming allergic to the soy, but if she hasn't yet, perhaps it's worth either doing what Zebra suggests, or just going straight back on the soy until you can see someone about the situation.

I know nothing about what should be done, just what my knee-jerk reaction would be. Good luck in whatever you decide. And big hugs xxx

Well as most of you will have noticed from my previous threads we've had some bother with Scarlett's feeding.

After being changed onto Hypoallergenic milk by the gastroenterologist due to being allergic to dairy, I can't get her to take a bottle.

She's just screaming and after an ounce or so she will not drink anymore. I've tried to feed her on and off all day and she's spent most of the time screaming. When I do manage to get some down her she has such bad wind that it makes her cry so hard until I manage to get her to burp (this has never been a problem before and she's always been the easiest baby to wind, you just had to sit her forward and she'd burp)

On top of this she had a poo today that was black. She's not on any iron supplements so it can't be that. I put it down to the new milk and if it's still the same tomorrow I'll take her to the gp.

I know I need to persevere on the new milk (Neocate) as it's best for her but it's getting hard not only to listen to her screaming but knowing she's hungry but wont feed.

Any ideas, tips or suggestions?

AnnieC, I'm sorry you are struggling but this post has been such a relief. My Annie is doing the same, screaming but refusing to feed. She can't have had more than 2 ounces in the last 36 hours.

I'm so incredibly tired and its so horridly frustrating to listen to her cry and know that she is hungry and not being able to help. She pushes away from the breast everytime I try and feed her and now her poohs are green.

She never normally cries much so the last few days has been so hard.

Have you looked back over Gina and AnnieCs previous posts re crying Ollie?
Just wondering if Annabel might have a similar problem to one of them?

I can recommend the osteopathic practice in broomhill, chris is lovely and helped my baby with feeding and sleeping problems. I hope shes better soon. Will she take some cool boiled water?

Strange...our lad isn't wanting much milk right now either - he eats his meals but isn't as fussed on his usual 4 9oz bottles a day. I'd put it down to him having a nasty cough. Maybe your little ones are a bit out of sorts?

Or...it could be something as simple as the teats aren't right for the milk. When we moved to Comfort milk we had to get fast flow teats rather than slow flow ones - it can be frustrating for baby if it's hard work to get any milk from the bottle, and vice versa, if too much comes out it could be swamping their tum.

AnnieC, I'm sorry you are struggling but this post has been such a relief. My Annie is doing the same, screaming but refusing to feed. She can't have had more than 2 ounces in the last 36 hours.

I'm so incredibly tired and its so horridly frustrating to listen to her cry and know that she is hungry and not being able to help. She pushes away from the breast everytime I try and feed her and now her poohs are green.

She never normally cries much so the last few days has been so hard.

We had this when we realised Scarlett may be allergic to milk. Not likely for Annabelle as she bf (if she still is completely bf?) It's so frustrating but it's possible the heat has some bearing on their mood. I know I get cranky in this weather and there's also the possibility that she's coming down with something. We don't worry if an adult goes off food if they are ill but it's an ambulance caller if a kid does it. One of the joys of being a mummy I think.

I do feel for you ollie, it's tough when there's nothing you can do and then you start to panic that something terrible is going to happen if they don't feed immediately. Even though I know she'll drink it if she's really hungry it doesn't make it any easier to listen to the little mite crying and I'm sure it's the same for you.

Is it possible she's teething? Scarlett has been since 8 weeks and she's got about 5 or 6 waiting to cut through, the Dr said when she felt it it's not as uncommon this early as people think.

If Scarlett isn't taking the Neocate by Monday (I've got to give it some time I suppose) then I'll be at the Dr's first thing with the view to going back on infasoy.

Babies eh?!

I can recommend the osteopathic practice in broomhill, chris is lovely and helped my baby with feeding and sleeping problems. I hope shes better soon. Will she take some cool boiled water?

sorry, forgot to add this, she will take water, about an ounce but thats it. The problem is she needs food and I'm worried about her loosing weight. I'm sure it'll right itself.

Well I managed to get 5oz into her about 12:30am and she slept till 6:30am she's now taken another 4oz so fingers crossed she's realised that nothing else will be offered and she needs to drink it.

And good news from Annie-Rose too. She drank loads at oneish (boob went from rock hard to squidgy) slept till four, had abit more and then slept from six till eight.

Super.

And to top off a good night, my friend has arranged for me to have a massage today and she is going to look after the little bug.

ohh that'll be lovely. I think you need it and will appreciate it. Maybe it's the weather with these we monkey's.

I think it might be the weather too. She is back to her lovely normal self this morning.

Are we in for a tricky summer then?

Annie, really sorry to hear that scarlett has been out of sorts..... poor little mite, I want a cuddle next week at Jelly's, I have been 3 times now and not had a cuddle of any of the other babies yet !

Take care xx

your more than welcome, as long as she's not being a crabbit rabbit like she was today. She likes new people to fuss over her.