View Full Version : Van Nistelrooys Goal v Italy


Bull Dog
10-06-2008, 15:35
Apparantley Horseface's goal was allowed and legal because an italian played him onside even though he was off the field of play on the floor behind the goal.
Due to new Uefa rulings the player is still considered active even though he is off the field
What a load of crock............its Uefa cocking up football again

Venables
10-06-2008, 15:39
He slid off the field before and decided to stay there for some silly reason, the ref didnt give him permission to leave the field for treatment etc so he is still active. Anyone with any footy knowledge would have told you that. How many times do you see players running over the throw in line chasing the ball.

And its not a `new ruling` its been in force for ages, its just never had to be used.

mholey
10-06-2008, 15:47
He slid off the field before and decided to stay there for some silly reason, the ref didnt give him permission to leave the field for treatment etc so he is still active. Anyone with any footy knowledge would have told you that. How many times do you see players running over the throw in line chasing the ball.

And its not a `new ruling` its been in force for ages, its just never had to be used.

I'd agree with that. There was nothing to stop the player dashing back on the pitch and being active again.

Bull Dog
11-06-2008, 16:28
He slid off the field before and decided to stay there for some silly reason, the ref didnt give him permission to leave the field for treatment etc so he is still active. Anyone with any footy knowledge would have told you that. How many times do you see players running over the throw in line chasing the ball.

And its not a `new ruling` its been in force for ages, its just never had to be used.

"Anyone who knows anything about football" knows that Panucci was not playing Horseface onside,he was not between Buffon and Nistelrooy,he was sparko laid on his back BEHIND THE GOAL after colliding with his keeper
How the hell can that be considered to be active:loopy::loopy::loopy:

Pedant
11-06-2008, 17:42
How the hell can that be considered to be active:loopy::loopy::loopy:

Because he was free to enter the field of play at any point without the referee having to stop play. I'm sure had his face not been bashed, he would have done that too. I can't see what the problem is, Holland scored two more goals that would have stood.

Venables
11-06-2008, 19:51
"Anyone who knows anything about football" knows that Panucci was not playing Horseface onside,he was not between Buffon and Nistelrooy,he was sparko laid on his back BEHIND THE GOAL after colliding with his keeper
How the hell can that be considered to be active:loopy::loopy::loopy:

Give up on the footy threads fella, cos your knowledge is very poor and you lie. If you actually watched the game, Panucci was on his front,not knocked unconscious on his back. I`ll accept your apology for lack of knowledge in due course.

Learn the rules an all before you waste my time again.

Bull Dog
11-06-2008, 21:25
Give up on the footy threads fella, cos your knowledge is very poor and you lie. If you actually watched the game, Panucci was on his front,not knocked unconscious on his back. I`ll accept your apology for lack of knowledge in due course.

Learn the rules an all before you waste my time again.

My knowledge is THAT poor im 5 pts ahead of you in Euro predictions and i won Round 1

Will not be accepting your half hearted apology cos i aint arsed about it,or you for that matter

And clever dick,save up and buy a copy of todays Sun Newspaper
Panucci is laid out on his BACK hands covering his nose at the precise moment the ball crossed the line

You obviously wasnt watching the game,or if you were......YOU NEED GLASSES
And learn to read kiddo,i said he was sparko...NOT unconscious

Now put your hat back on and go and sit in the corner like a good little boy

JFKvsNixon
11-06-2008, 21:30
"Anyone who knows anything about football" knows that Panucci was not playing Horseface onside,he was not between Buffon and Nistelrooy,he was sparko laid on his back BEHIND THE GOAL after colliding with his keeper
How the hell can that be considered to be active:loopy::loopy::loopy:

It doesn't really matter what you think though does it, as the rules are very clear.

Teabag
11-06-2008, 21:34
Apparantley Horseface's goal was allowed and legal because an italian played him onside even though he was off the field of play on the floor behind the goal.
Due to new Uefa rulings the player is still considered active even though he is off the field
What a load of crock............its Uefa cocking up football again

As soon as you cross the white line and the ref blows his whistle - you are in active play, until you have permission to leave the field. This is a very old rule

Simple really....

Venables
11-06-2008, 21:40
My knowledge is THAT poor im 5 pts ahead of you in Euro predictions and i won Round 1

Will not be accepting your half hearted apology cos i aint arsed about it,or you for that matter

And clever dick,save up and buy a copy of todays Sun Newspaper
Panucci is laid out on his BACK hands covering his nose at the precise moment the ball crossed the line

You obviously wasnt watching the game,or if you were......YOU NEED GLASSES
And learn to read kiddo,i said he was sparko...NOT unconscious

Now put your hat back on and go and sit in the corner like a good little boy

Brilliant! :hihi:

Longcol
11-06-2008, 23:45
As soon as you cross the white line and the ref blows his whistle - you are in active play, until you have permission to leave the field. This is a very old rule

Simple really....

When I took my refs badge (many moons ago) we were taught to imagine the defender was stood on the line at the point he'd crossed it.

Heyesey
12-06-2008, 04:26
My knowledge is THAT poor im 5 pts ahead of you in Euro predictions and i won Round 1


Maybe it escaped your attention, but the Euro predictions competition is a guessing game. You don't get points for knowledge.

dannyo9
12-06-2008, 11:59
Maybe it escaped your attention, but the Euro predictions competition is a guessing game. You don't get points for knowledge.

you do actually. maybe not the kind of knowledge you have in mind, but the kind of knowledge which is useful to predict games. 9/10 people get carried away by country stereotypes etc when predicting, and therefore they dont predict very well. i dont care who is playing, i just look at their form, and I predict well. I have been betting on half a dozen matches so far, and I've won every time...

Bull Dog
12-06-2008, 15:01
Maybe it escaped your attention, but the Euro predictions competition is a guessing game. You don't get points for knowledge.

What the frigg has it got to do with you
Your not even in the league,And it is knowledge of football that helps you in predicting scores!!!
Now go away little man,you couldnt be ***** to have a punt at the league so keep out

Goon
13-06-2008, 06:48
"Anyone who knows anything about football" knows that Panucci was not playing Horseface onside,he was not between Buffon and Nistelrooy,he was sparko laid on his back BEHIND THE GOAL after colliding with his keeper
How the hell can that be considered to be active:loopy::loopy::loopy:

Just to clarify, the rule on leaving the field of play was set up to prevent defenders from playing the offside trap just by stepping over the line. When they cross that line now they are deemed to still be in play regardless of what part of their body they are resting on. It was actually a good bit of refereeing.

Bull Dog, stop being rude to people. You are coming across as a complete muppet.

Bull Dog
13-06-2008, 15:50
Just to clarify, the rule on leaving the field of play was set up to prevent defenders from playing the offside trap just by stepping over the line. When they cross that line now they are deemed to still be in play regardless of what part of their body they are resting on. It was actually a good bit of refereeing.

Bull Dog, stop being rude to people. You are coming across as a complete muppet.


Bit of contradiction there big lad
Some people may well consider being called a muppet as being RUDE Personally i couldnt give a rats backside
But might be an idea to think about what you type before you submit it

Oh by the way.....your hands are mucky:hihi:

Goon
13-06-2008, 16:04
Bit of contradiction there big lad
Some people may well consider being called a muppet as being RUDE Personally i couldnt give a rats backside
But might be an idea to think about what you type before you submit it:

I was trying not to be rude, just trying to help mate. If you don't care then it doesn't really matter.


Oh by the way.....your hands are mucky:hihi:

Damn! Where's the soap?

Goon
13-06-2008, 16:06
Bit of contradiction there big lad
Some people may well consider being called a muppet as being RUDE Personally i couldnt give a rats backside
But might be an idea to think about what you type before you submit it:

I was trying not to be rude, just trying to help mate. If you don't care then it doesn't really matter.


Oh by the way.....your hands are mucky:hihi:

Damn! Where's the soap? ;)

Bull Dog
14-06-2008, 00:09
Heard ya the first time Goon:hihi:

the_mandarin
14-06-2008, 13:25
I am not taking sides as I don't know the rules all that well.

Here's a question for anyone who does -

Suppose a defender is injured, play is stopped and he is carried off the field for treatment. What are the rules about him coming back on the field? Does play have to be stopped and his entry announced (like a substitution) or can he just walk on to the field as soon as he feels better?

May be the answer to this question might answer the original post about the goal being legal or not!

Heyesey
14-06-2008, 13:37
Suppose a defender is injured, play is stopped and he is carried off the field for treatment. What are the rules about him coming back on the field? Does play have to be stopped and his entry announced (like a substitution) or can he just walk on to the field as soon as he feels better?


He's not allowed to return to the field without the referee's permission; but I don't think the game has to be stopped. As long as the referee signals him to come back on, he's okay.

If he were behind the goal-line and an attacker were charging through, I don't think the referee would give him permission to return until after the attack was over.

Longcol
15-06-2008, 10:27
He's not allowed to return to the field without the referee's permission; but I don't think the game has to be stopped. As long as the referee signals him to come back on, he's okay.

If he were behind the goal-line and an attacker were charging through, I don't think the referee would give him permission to return until after the attack was over.

First part is correct - however injured players can only re-join play from the half way line.

the_rudeboy
15-06-2008, 12:31
What a load of crock............its Uefa cocking up football again
Would you feel the same if your team benefited from this rule?

Bull Dog
15-06-2008, 14:25
Would you feel the same if your team benefited from this rule?

of course i would;):hihi:

Heyesey
15-06-2008, 21:16
First part is correct - however injured players can only re-join play from the half way line.

Ahh .. so in practice it wouldn't matter if the ref did wave him on while the other team's on an attack - he'd be way behind the play anyway.