Sheffield and most other cities have a long and proud heritage of the wealthy giving back to the city that they called home, and which made them wealthy. JG Graves springs to mind for obvious reasons.

What happened? Now the wealthy raise funds rather than give them. They 'represent memory' rather than dig into their own pocket. Now I don't criticise the wonderful work that is done or the effort made for a single moment, but why be a part of a fund raising committee when you can have your name above the door by digging deep?

Is a bigger holiday home in Majorca more fulfilling than having your name on a hospital or public park?

One word, Tony, - GREED.

Would anyone here like to sponsor some municiple toilets?

Sheffield and most other cities have a long and proud heritage of the wealthy giving back to the city that they called home, and which made them wealthy. JG Graves springs to mind for obvious reasons.

What happened? Now the wealthy raise funds rather than give them. They 'represent memory' rather than dig into their own pocket. Now I don't criticise the wonderful work that is done or the effort made for a single moment, but why be a part of a fund raising committee when you can have your name above the door by digging deep?

Is a bigger holiday home in Majorca more fulfilling than having your name on a hospital or public park?

Norman Addessts ?

Names on the Addesst building intown.

Still Alive and well, used to run SIG.

They all went to their graves ;)

Norman Addessts ?

Names on the Addesst building intown.

Still Alive and well, used to run SIG.

Sir Norman is a great man and sits on lots (and I mean lots) of charity committees but I don't think that he bought that building for Hallam University.

Sheffield and most other cities have a long and proud heritage of the wealthy giving back to the city that they called home, and which made them wealthy. JG Graves springs to mind for obvious reasons.

What happened? Now the wealthy raise funds rather than give them. They 'represent memory' rather than dig into their own pocket. Now I don't criticise the wonderful work that is done or the effort made for a single moment, but why be a part of a fund raising committee when you can have your name above the door by digging deep?

Is a bigger holiday home in Majorca more fulfilling than having your name on a hospital or public park?

There's a massive list of benefactors in the foyer of the new Information Commons so the University obviously doesn't have the same problem.

Maybe the Leader of the Council and the Pro VC should get together for a chinwag.

Is it not a measure of relative wealth? The benefactors of yesteryear were stupidly, mindbogglingly wealthy compared to the rest. Did Graves not buy the park before he gave it away?

Sir Norman is a great man and sits on lots (and I mean lots) of charity committees but I don't think that he bought that building for Hallam University.


but i do think he donated LOTS of cash for it.

Met him one :-).

He is my old mans ex boss !

What happened?


Taxes happened. Now the Government takes away the money and spends it for them, on whatever the Government thinks we need.

Taxes happened. Now the Government takes away the money and spends it for them, on whatever the Government thinks we need.

Rubbish! The rich have never been better off than they are now.
Read some of the threads on SF about real people struggling to make ends meet, then read about company directors taking six and seven figure bonuses!
DIVA summed it up in one word - greed.
In these troubled times, the rich will always line their pockets before considering others.

Rubbish! The rich have never been better off than they are now.


How rich the rich are is rather beside the point. The rich used to donate their own money to provide swimming pools, parks, hospitals etc.; now the Government provides such things directly, through taxation.

Rubbish! The rich have never been better off than they are now.
Read some of the threads on SF about real people struggling to make ends meet, then read about company directors taking six and seven figure bonuses!
DIVA summed it up in one word - greed.
In these troubled times, the rich will always line their pockets before considering others.

Before you go around telling other people they're talking rubbish, maybe you should find out just how much it costs to build a hospital/museum etc. 6 figure bonuses are neither here nor there.

How rich the rich are is rather beside the point. The rich used to donate their own money to provide swimming pools, parks, hospitals etc.; now the Government provides such things directly, through taxation.

Agreed. Ordinary folks no longer have to rely on the generosity of very rich people for things that should be available to all. There is much less need for grand gestures of very rich people that we all have to be "grateful" for.

They still give money, look at the plaques inside a lot of the public buildings stating who has given funds. They just don't demand that the building or scheme is then named after them, which would be vulgar ;)

Though if they really want their 'name' on things they go for sponsorship deals instead. If you want to see proof that there's just as much funding floating around then take a look at the strip of every football club.

Even road signs get funded by benefactors these days. If you've got a grand or two you could pay for a Welcome To Sheffield sign with the strapline "Sponsored by Tony"

;)