View Full Version : Who Smokes, then?


Agent Dan
08-10-2003, 12:43
Just thought of this poll (as suggested by alchresearch) but we could always have the great smoking debate as well. I personally smoke about 10 a day, and have done since I was 16. However, I am generally in favour of them trying to stop everyone from smoking in public places!! As long as they don't ban it in night clubs/ bars I'll support them all the way!!

nomme
08-10-2003, 12:49
I gave up earlier this year (May) after smoking roll-ups for just over 20 years. Have now gone 5 months without a fag!

Nomme

gwizz
08-10-2003, 12:55
I can honestly say that cannabis was a gateway to hard drugs for me - tobacco!

I've been trying to give up recently but I've given up for now.

Agent Dan
08-10-2003, 12:57
The cannabis or the fags??!!! Don't answer that! Incidentally, I'm the same - started with hippies, ended up buying cigarettes from huge corporations... something wrong with that!!

Nomme - how did you stop? I've tried lots but I'm really bad a stopping things I enjoy...

mikey
08-10-2003, 12:58
I now smoke small cigars, having given up the ciggies earlier this year, I just can not seem to go out and not smoke. No will power I guess.

When I did smoke I smoked 10 a day, now up to nearly 10 cigars a day!!!


One day I will give the lot up, I have tried most nicotine replacement therapy's around

Maybe need to try some of the alternative ones like hypnotherapy or accupuncture.

DaBouncer
08-10-2003, 13:43
Is this a Sheffield related chat thread or would it be better of in General Chit Chat?

Agent Dan
08-10-2003, 13:44
Could be either, mate! I don't mind!! How do I move it?

max
08-10-2003, 13:49
Originally posted by Agent Dan
Could be either, mate! I don't mind!! How do I move it?

Consider it moved.

DaBouncer
08-10-2003, 13:51
PS I'm a no smoker. Too expensive and the cancer side effects don't appeal to me. :P

Agent Dan
08-10-2003, 13:54
Cancer's the fun bit mate!! Seriously, tho, I never smoke a cigarette without thinking about it, but still enjoy smoking one. And I studied psychology but I still haven't given up!!

Thanks for moving it max!!

Belle
08-10-2003, 13:57
I had my first cig at the age of 11, thought it made me look grown up

stupid stupid little girl that I was

27 years and millions of cigs later....

hiyabeing
08-10-2003, 14:23
My mum n dad went to a hypnotist to stop smoking - worked for dad straight away - mum smoked for a bit longer then stopped a month or so later when she had a cold!!!!

nomme
08-10-2003, 14:39
Originally posted by Agent Dan
The cannabis or the fags??!!! Don't answer that! Incidentally, I'm the same - started with hippies, ended up buying cigarettes from huge corporations... something wrong with that!!

Nomme - how did you stop? I've tried lots but I'm really bad a stopping things I enjoy...

Basically cold turkey after having read Allan Carrs book. I thought about gum and patches but decided it wasn't for me... I would just be replacing one habit with another. First week was probably the hardest but you just have to take one day at a time.

I also read a lot of the info available on the net

eg:

http://www.givingupsmoking.co.uk/

The follwoing site is the FAQ for the newsgroup alt.support.stop-smoking. Very good and very comprehensive. I've lurked in the newsgroup and they are a decent bunch of people. Seem to be predominantly american.

http://www.swen.uwaterloo.ca/~as3/faq/faq.html


They also have a good site here :
http://www.quitbuddies.org/
Nomme

Belle
08-10-2003, 14:42
My best attempt at stopping so far was with Zyban

There are a few side effects sometimes, but none as serious as lung cancer

Zamo
08-10-2003, 15:01
Originally posted by hiyabeing
My mum n dad went to a hypnotist to stop smoking - worked for dad straight away - mum smoked for a bit longer then stopped a month or so later when she had a cold!!!!
Yeah, my mate went to a hypnotist and he's never touched a fag since (over a year I think) andwas on 40+ a day.

Agent Orange
08-10-2003, 15:03
I smoked for over 4 years and then quit about 5 years ago. Nothing but will power prevented me from having another and to this day I'd say that it was the best thing I've ever done. :D

Sidla
08-10-2003, 15:25
I smoke casually, less than 10 or so a day. I could probably give up if I put the effort in, it's more of a bad habit rather than an addiction.

mr craig
08-10-2003, 15:55
I used to smoke for a couple of years in my teens,but then just started spending all my money on beer instead.
A bloke at where i work has been trying to quit,ended up going to a smokers help group where there was a bloke who was smoking between 80-100 a day!!:eek:

fuzzy
08-10-2003, 16:32
I gave up with nomme but am now doing it again, mine stemmed from going out during the summer holidays (don't normally go out in week) and got into havin the odd one, and still doing.
Have to stop again but do enjoy it. Just have to decide when and stop.

Moon Maiden
08-10-2003, 16:46
I smoke only when I have alcohol - but then Louise B can vouch for that being that I tapped off her the first sheffi meet up!

I do not smoke at any other time.

Moon

upholder
08-10-2003, 16:55
I would probably be classed as a heavy smoker, 30+ per day, I'd do it in my sleep if I could. :loopy:

Abdul
08-10-2003, 16:58
Being a lifeling non-smoker, and having grown up in a similar environment, I take a dim view of tobacco users. While I sympathise with those who try to give up, this is overtaken by my loathing for those nicotine addicts who'll be found puffing away in a bus stop during a minor drizzle, forcing non-smokers to wait further down the road. I take a similar view of 'parents' who smoke in front of their children

What, please, is the point of smoking?

To those pro-smoking fascists who bleat about their right to smoke in public, to you I ask what about the right of your fellow humans to breathe clean air, which surely came first.

And to those who smoke to look cool , or as a form of rebellion, I ask you is anything more conformist than paying thousands of pounds a year to a tobacco company and the government?

(Some of my colleagues smoke; ironically, the ones who are anti-war / vegetarians - let's hope they read this, I do care)

Es todo el muy confuso

Moon Maiden
08-10-2003, 17:04
I am not 100% sure why I smoke? I have a fairly addictive nature and it seems if I manage to get more than a pint down my neck the craving starts for me - until then the smell of cig smoke irritates me as much as the rest.

Personally I hate the stupidity of it all. How people can think it is healthy is beyond me and the law suits brought in by dimwitted yanks have me in fits when one of our Kings tried to ban the stuff in the 17th century!!!

However there are many things that are addictive and can kill. A simple case of choose your vice.

As for smoking in front of the kids?? You are lining yourself up in the firing line there are you not???

Moon

*Twinkle*
08-10-2003, 17:23
Nope, I don't smoke....Never have done ~ Never will!!!

Its disgusting, smelly, so unsexy and expensive!!!! It makes me wonder why people actually smoke when there's so many reasons not to!

....and don't give me that "I get stressed" rubbish.....I do too! and shopping mends that! :P

Abdul
08-10-2003, 17:26
Originally posted by Moon Maiden
However there are many things that are addictive and can kill. A simple case of choose your vice.

So...people try them because...they are there?

Lickszz
08-10-2003, 17:52
Never tried it and never been tempted to try it.

upholder
08-10-2003, 17:52
I don't think you and Mallory would have gelled Abby :bigsmile:

Mo
08-10-2003, 18:42
Smoked 20/day for 18 years but have been given up 7 years now.

purplepippa
08-10-2003, 19:00
I'm a rollie girl.

Used to smoke ready-rolled but changed to rollies for money reasons and now I prefer them.

As for what's the point - well there isn't really one but it's enjoyable and also I'm addicted!

I'll probably give up one day. Just not now.

sammie
08-10-2003, 19:08
im a student and i cant afford it tho to br honest im not thet bothered aboput it anyway

t020
08-10-2003, 20:44
Never smoke and never have done. Filthy habit and very pointless in my opinion.

kittykat
08-10-2003, 22:55
I very much agree. If only you could see yourselves from a non smokers point of view. We think youre all filthy and you all smell and your teeth are disgusting and yellow and your nails are horrible. I cant believe that mans wife whos sueing that tobacco company for him getting lung cancer. How ridiculous! How can one POSSIBLY believe that smoking 60 a day wouldnt do any damage its just in built you know whats bad for you and whats not. Maybe shes getting all the money back he wasted on smoking that many for such a long time.

Funke88
09-10-2003, 00:03
I won't get many friends, cos from what I gather, there's a lot of smokers here. Filthy disgusting habit I believe. But hey if you want to kill yourself go right ahead.

When you've seen people with cancer and emphysema, people who you love and care about, hacking and coughing and even dying. Also when you've had to talk to people who have a hole in their throat and have a voice sythesizer to make themselves speak and be understood, now that is very sad. Well you can't help thinking, did they bring it on themselves? My brother rolls his: It makes his teeth brown and fingers yellow. Yuk, nasty.
I love my brother but it makes me cry to think he's killing himself. My best friend smokes and she has asthma. She knows she has to give it up but says that she's too stressed right now and needs it to relax.
They say it's the hardest drug to give up and the most addictive too. It has more side effects than marijana and kills more people.
GIVE IT UP PEOPLE. Not for us, but for yourself. Breathe easier and smell better. Save money too.

WintersMist
09-10-2003, 07:25
ummm...well i agree with some things that have been said :loopy: I myself being a smoker I suppose some how I'm going to be biased. Abby says that its polluting the atmosphere - so do car engines! Some say a waste of money - so is alcohol!

Smoking is an addiction, it is a drug, but then again I could say the same about drinking.

Saying all this me and my partner are giving up nxt week!!! APPARANTLY :rolleyes: :P :o :)

Abdul
09-10-2003, 07:40
Yabba yabba - why pick on me? I'm a nice guy :cry:

Originally posted by WintersMist
Abby says that its polluting the atmosphere - so do car engines!

True, but there's a benefit to be had in driving a car. There isn't that much of a benefit to smoking

Originally posted by WintersMist
Some say a waste of money - so is alcohol!


Well ban that too! I don't drink so I wouldn't miss it either :D

Originally posted by WintersMist
Smoking is an addiction, it is a drug, but then again I could say the same about drinking.


You are quite right - it is an addiction, which is why I have great sympathy for those who try to kick the habit

Originally posted by WintersMist
Saying all this me and my partner are giving up nxt week!!! APPARANTLY :rolleyes: :P :o :)

And we're all wishing you the best of luck :thumbsup:

WintersMist
09-10-2003, 07:48
thank you :) I wasnt picking on you I just noticed your thread stand out thats all, take it as a back handed compliment :P

Just one thing though you say a car has a benefit what is that?

Abdul
09-10-2003, 07:54
Originally posted by WintersMist
thank you :) I wasnt picking on you I just noticed your thread stand out thats all, take it as a back handed compliment :P

Just one thing though you say a car has a benefit what is that?

To get to your destination quicker and easier! Before I bought my car, my family (I have a wife and two young sons) had a terrible time having to take the bus, coach or train anywhere with two prams and all the changing bags that accompany children.

It's much easier with a car - especially with Sheffield's weather!

Lou
09-10-2003, 12:06
Originally posted by WintersMist
Just one thing though you say a car has a benefit what is that?
You can travel door to door, no waiting or walking to a bus stop in the cold/rain. You can leave exactly when you want from where you want. You have full control over the temperature and you can choose your own music! No sweaty, noisy buses/trains or listening to someone else's personal stereo or a crying baby... No bags or wet coats/umbrella's bashing you when people go past.
Hmm, give me my car any day!

Er, oh yeah, I don't smoke.

samscam
10-10-2003, 10:02
Hmm... I gave up smoking a little over a month ago...
I publicly announced it by creating an online fag-o-meter (http://www.samscam.co.uk/fag-o-meter.php). Pure willpower and reverse psychology were employed. Tolerance of others smoking and avoidance of becoming puritanical has been an important hurdle. Much softened by the acquisition of a bong ;)

nomme
10-10-2003, 10:41
Originally posted by Moonboy
Hmm... I gave up smoking a little over a month ago...
I publicly announced it by creating an online fag-o-meter (http://www.samscam.co.uk/fag-o-meter.php). Pure willpower and reverse psychology were employed. Tolerance of others smoking and avoidance of becoming puritanical has been an important hurdle. Much softened by the acquisition of a bong ;)

Well done. Too lazy to do anything like you've done but I did download a timer programme from http://www.silkquit.org/
which does a similar thing everytime I turn the PC on and allows me to do this with a couple of key strokes :
--
Stopped smoking now for : Five months, five days, 11 hours, 39 minutes and 51 seconds. 3962 cigarettes not smoked, saving £198.11. Life saved: 1 week, 6 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes.

Nomme

BigD
10-10-2003, 10:45
Yes, I smoke, and enjoy it.

My dad died of emphisema(spelling ok or not), really psilicosis(again, spelling ok?) when he was 63. Yes, he smoked.

Oh,..... he also worked down Kiveton pit for 40 years, which, according to the NCB was not a long enough period for him, or rather mum, to receive compensation, or a widows pension. He also smoked all his life.

He, like me, made sure that he didn't invade anyone's space when he was smoking, and was respected for his actions and views.

Polluting the atmosphere??? You have got to be joking! Or is it easier to blame a poor guy smoking than all the diesel users, and local and international industry, who pollute both the air and the land? Of course it is.

I have mentioned before my hatred of the smell of garlic; after eating the horrible stuff - originally used to cover the rank smell of meat going bad - do you ride on a bus? Sit in the office, talking about the dirty smokers?

You want respect, give it. Here's an offer - don't breath garlic on me and I won't blow smoke anyway near you.

Security message: this post has been declared 'smoke free' by virus protection on my computer.


:evil:

Abdul
10-10-2003, 11:48
Originally posted by nommedenet
Stopped smoking now for : Five months, five days, 11 hours, 39 minutes and 51 seconds. 3962 cigarettes not smoked, saving £198.11. Life saved: 1 week, 6 days, 18 hours, 10 minutes.

Nomme

Yabba yabba...

But 4000 cigarettes / 20 in a pack = 400 boxes.

400 boxes x £5 each = £1000 :wow:

A lot more than the £200 you mention - or do you get your ciggies cheap :twisted:

Originally posted by BigD
Yes, I smoke, and enjoy it.


I could never understand how anybody could enjoy smoking

Is it really enjoyment, or just the temporary period between cravings?

Originally posted by BigD
Polluting the atmosphere??? You have got to be joking! Or is it easier to blame a poor guy smoking than all the diesel users, and local and international industry, who pollute both the air and the land? Of course it is.

I have mentioned before my hatred of the smell of garlic; after eating the horrible stuff - originally used to cover the rank smell of meat going bad - do you ride on a bus? Sit in the office, talking about the dirty smokers?

Estoy apesadumbrado. Usted es confuso yo :loopy:

BigD
10-10-2003, 11:52
Exactly. I couldn't agree more!!

nomme
10-10-2003, 11:55
Originally posted by Abby
Yabba yabba...

But 4000 cigarettes / 20 in a pack = 400 boxes.

400 boxes x £5 each = £1000 :wow:

A lot more than the £200 you mention - or do you get your ciggies cheap :twisted:


I smoked rollups and cheap rolling tobacco is easy to come by. My calculation is based on smoking roughly 25 a day and on average costing me about 1 pound for 20.

Nomme

Agent Dan
10-10-2003, 11:56
Genuine enjoyment, actually. I have never felt 'the cravings' that people go on about all the time, although I am unusual in that I don't smoke in my house, only outside, which cuts down on smell and number smoked in a day, etc...

I, like many other smokers I know, will *never* smoke in front of children, and will ask people sitting near me in pubs/restaraunts/etc if they mind before I light up. I actually prefer non-smoking restaraunts as you taste the food then, not the fag...

If they produced a smokeless cigarette (and I believe they could if they wanted to) I'd pay a lot more to be *only* harming myself - I never wanted to give other people secondary smoke diseases...

max
10-10-2003, 12:56
Dan, I'm pleased there's someone else out there that enjoys smoking without being addicted. I don't smoke in the house or indoors except pubs. Only then if there are other people smoking and no one objects. I normally smoke 2 or 3 a week and sometimes don't smoke for months on end, usually during the winter months as it's not worth the hassle of putting a coat on and waving my arms around to get the security lights to come on.

I do object to smokers whingeing on about 'rights'. Yes, you have the right to smoke where and when you want as long as it doesn't impinge on other people's rights not to breath in your smoke. Simple concept, why can't you grasp it?

Carlwarker
10-10-2003, 13:02
Originally posted by max
...I do object to smokers whingeing on about 'rights'. Yes, you have the right to smoke where and when you want as long as it doesn't impinge on other people's rights not to breath in your smoke. Simple concept, why can't you grasp it?

As I've stated before, if you drive or possess a motor vehicle - then, belt up.

max
10-10-2003, 13:06
Originally posted by Carlwarker
As I've stated before, if you drive or possess a motor vehicle - then, belt up.
I do, it's the law.

Agent Dan
10-10-2003, 13:09
Too right!! I hate those people who think not wearing a seatbelt is a joke of some kind...

Incidentally, I smoke about 5 a day, when I'm at work, and maybe 3 a day at weekends - but then I work on the phones, so I smoke instead of getting angry about idiots on the phone!!!

halevan
10-10-2003, 16:09
Originally posted by Agent Dan
Just thought of this poll (as suggested by alchresearch) but we could always have the great smoking debate as well. I personally smoke about 10 a day, and have done since I was 16. However, I am generally in favour of them trying to stop everyone from smoking in public places!! As long as they don't ban it in night clubs/ bars I'll support them all the way!!

Don't smoke at all and I avoid tobacco smoke like the plague, that is why I can never go to the Forum meetings ever!!!

Agent Dan
10-10-2003, 16:14
Isn't that a bit ott? We could have a meeting somewhere were the smokers have to go outside? Or would that still bother you?! :P

Funke88
11-10-2003, 21:06
Originally posted by BigD

You want respect, give it. Here's an offer - don't breath garlic on me and I won't blow smoke anyway near you.


At least garlic won't kill you or make your clothes and hair smell.
At least garlic is bio-degradable, so if I felt the slightest inkling of throwing a few cloves out of my car wondow, it wouldn't be thought of as littering! Old cigarette butts are offensive. They stick around loooooong after my garlic breath has calmed down.

Donn&Kenn
14-10-2003, 14:20
Kenn smokes 10 a day, or 7 if he keeps 2 his 1 every 2 hrs rule - which isn't that often!

saxon51
27-10-2003, 14:30
Went to hypnotist once, it worked.
Now I can smoke to my heart's content without even realising it.

Phanerothyme
27-10-2003, 16:02
Originally posted by Carlwarker
As I've stated before, if you drive or possess a motor vehicle - then, belt up.

I agree in that cars are responsible for far, far more airborne contamination than cigarettes ever could be.

People worried about their respiratory health should target cars as the chief enemy in the fight for clean air.

MrH
27-10-2003, 19:00
Me.

Sorry.

PaulTansley
27-10-2003, 19:26
I've never smoked either but my parents did so i was brought up in a smoking atmosphere.
I,m Astmatic but keep fit so i don't suffer to much though paint, carpets and wooly bedding can hospitalise me.
I,m allergic to housedust so i can't do the house work and that really guts me up.
:D
Not like thats anything to do with this thread but i do wonder wether i have asthma due to my mother smoking.
She smoked until she died this year and my dad was on the Senior service and Woodbines.