what are the worst estates in sheffield? can you name any bad experiences in an estate if so describe it below like what your experience was like e.g. bad,good please let me know!

I think people will be wary to answer this broad question.

One persons view of a 'bad' estate would be very upsetting to another forum member who actually lived there!

if you search this site there are lots of similar threads before where people have given their views in the past and this may help you.

Loopy.

One of the worst estates in sheffield is an old "R" registration citreon in the forecourt at Reg Vardy's at hillsborough.

My worst experience in an Estate is when a woman driver pulled out in front of me.

i don't mean to offend anybody!

Depends on who lives next to you

I don't care if other forumers slag me off. They can defend them all they like, but the Manor, Pittsmoor, Firth Park, Blackburn are awful. Batemoor, Gleedless, Low Edges et al are actually not too bad.
Having said that, compared to Manchester or London, all Sheffield places are not too bad, as we have managed to avoid gang violence etc. Sheffield has recieved loads of regeneration funding, so there's always a nice park or shopping arcade or city farm or sports centre in unexpected places.
Anywhere that's not S10 or 11 or out towards Penines is pretty boring and depressing.
Please don't reply to this thread directly, I'm just expressing an opinion rather than pussyfooting around the issue.

Originally posted by meer

Please don't reply to this thread directly, I'm just expressing an opinion rather than pussyfooting around the issue.

That's not really how the forum works meer! If you make a post, people have every right to comment on it!

I have a little experience of some of the rougher places in Sheffield as I work on the council estates but they're not as bad as people make out. I could say the Manor, Shiregreen, Firth Park and Parson's Cross aren't too brill but certain parts of each area are ok too, especially since alot of them are being worked on and redeveloped at present.

There will always be black-spots in every area, and I think it's best to look at the people in your little patch/street (the neighbours) rather than to generalise the whole district. Granted this isn't always possible when you're looking for somewhere to live but you could always find a suitable property and do a little recon around the surrounding area before you decide to go for it. :)

I think the worstest places in sheffield are pitsmoor manor i live in parson cross and i think it has calmed down alot compared to what it used to be . lyn

Originally posted by letting

The worst eststes build wise are the ones the council dont give a toss over



This Council don't give a toss about any area unless it's in the North of Sheffiels

Originally posted by hagardriley
This Council don't give a toss about any area unless it's in the North of Sheffiels

are you sure about that ?

Originally posted by hagardriley
This Council don't give a toss about any area unless it's in the North of Sheffiels

I'm guessing you live in the south of sheffield and feel you have been sold short by the council or the housing dept. Maybe you could enlighten us of any misfortune you may have suffered/witnessed and possibly justify your statement? :)

how true!

Originally posted by hagardriley
This Council don't give a toss about any area unless it's in the North of Sheffiels

Originally posted by hagardriley
This Council don't give a toss about any area unless it's in the North of Sheffiels

That will be why they're proposing to spend millions on Park Hill then?

And why they've been involved in the re-generation of Norfolk Park? And why homes on Arbourthorne are being modernised? :confused:

All the estates in Sheffield are either being modernised or due to be modernised. This time last year they were putting in new kitchens, central heating and windows all over Arbourthorne and the surrounding area. I do believe that's south sheffield. :)

There's still alot of work going on in Parson Cross, Shiregreen and Firth Park but I'm sure all areas will be upgraded eventually. Just because your area might not be at it's best right now doesn't mean that it's been written off and nothing is planned for it. :) I talk to council tenants every day in my job and although one or two have their little moan about the council they do seem fairly positive that things will be happening in the future that will make life easier. :)

It's all down to money really and they can only move their workforce to a new area when the funds are there. Why don't you move to north sheffield if it's so much better eh? :D

i live at greystones, pay a massive mortgate, we are self employed, have 3 kids when do we get our kitchen and bathroom improved?

severnside and stradbroke are by far the worst at the moment.

Originally posted by hagardriley
This Council don't give a toss about any area unless it's in the North of Sheffiels parson cross is north sheffield and that is regarded as rough by many, looking at the replies it might have been simpler to name the good estates!

Originally posted by lint
severnside and stradbroke are by far the worst at the moment.

I fully agree....getting a little miffed at the scrotes (including adults) racing around on those mino-moto type bikes.

What will happen when they hit someone or a car ?

I can just hear the cries now "get me compo, get me compo" :rant:

No one mentioned the Wybourn yet ?

It was average smoggy night, the only sound to be heard was the gentle scraping of a jemmy on a window sash and the distant cry of someone being mugged, probably some passing traveller with no idea of the wybourn curfew.
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Just an excerpt from my latest biography

i live at greystones, pay a massive mortgate, we are self employed, have 3 kids when do we get our kitchen and bathroom improved?

When you decide you can afford it? The improvements being carried out on council homes will benefit the tenants, in terms of their living conditions, but not in terms of capital. If you, (or any property owner) invest money on these type of improvements, the value of your house increases so you benefit both ways.

Of course you will have a massive mortgage in Greystones, but that's because you choose to live in a relatively expensive area.

Why shouldn't the tenants in council houses have their kitchens and bathrooms brought up to a decent standard?

Some of these properties are over seventy years old, and still have outside (sorry "porch") lavatories. You cannot describe this as anything but primitive!

Rent is paid to the council on their properties. tese monies are supposed to maintain and manage the properties. It's high time that the money the council reap in on what is left of their stock was put back into upgrading the properties.

By the time one has paid rent for twenty-odd years on a property, the tenants have paid back almost the full cost of building the homes. Surely, a little investment needn't be begrudged.

When you mortgage a property, you take it on, in the full knowledge that you personally are responsible for any repairs and maintenance.

When you pay rent, you pay the landlord to repair and maintain the property, it's not solely your responsibility.

Just because a person lives in so-called "social housing" does not mean they ought to accept sub-standard housing.

PT

Originally posted by Macbeth
When you decide you can afford it? The improvements being carried out on council homes will benefit the tenants, in terms of their living conditions, but not in terms of capital. If you, (or any property owner) invest money on these type of improvements, the value of your house increases so you benefit both ways.

Of course you will have a massive mortgage in Greystones, but that's because you choose to live in a relatively expensive area.

What about those who get the council to do their house up and then, immediately after by pure coincidence, exercise their right to buy? Suddenly they've acquired a fully modernised house for the fraction of its market value and can sell at a huge profit. I think the sentiments expressed by fazz is that the reward for hard work is having to pay for everything yourself, and the reward for being a 'dosser' that likes to live off the state is a new bathroom and kitchen. Controversial, but true in some cases.

Originally posted by t020
What about those who get the council to do their house up and then, immediately after by pure coincidence, exercise their right to buy? Suddenly they've acquired a fully modernised house for the fraction of its market value and can sell at a huge profit. I think the sentiments expressed by fazz is that the reward for hard work is having to pay for everything yourself, and the reward for being a 'dosser' that likes to live off the state is a new bathroom and kitchen. Controversial, but true in some cases.

That's not entirely true, now, t020. Apparently the new rules on purchasing council houses say that you can only get a 24k/ 60% discount, now, whatever is the smaller.

So if the value of the house goes up b/c it's got a new kitchen/ bathroom, the discount alters proportionately with that.

I personally disagree with sale of social housing, I think it's iniquitous, but, as it's legislated, and legal, there isn't a lot can be done about it. And this thread is not about sale of social housing.

PT

Originally posted by Plain Talker
That's not entirely true, now, t020. Apparently the new rules on purchasing council houses say that you can only get a 24k/ 60% discount, now, whatever is the smaller.

So if the value of the house goes up b/c it's got a new kitchen/ bathroom, the discount alters proportionately with that.

I personally disagree with sale of social housing, I think it's iniquitous, but, as it's legislated, and legal, there isn't a lot can be done about it. And this thread is not about sale of social housing.

PT

I agree with the sale of social housing, but tenants who have had modernisation work should have their right to buy postponed again to ensure there's no quick cashing in.

Originally posted by t020
I agree with the sale of social housing, but tenants who have had modernisation work should have their right to buy postponed again to ensure there's no quick cashing in.

When you buy a council house they take into account any recent modernisation, and adjust the price accordingly.

If someone has lived in their council house for 20 years already why should they have to wait any longer just because the council have (finally) got round to replacing their windows or gutttering ?

The amount of rent people have paid would cover the cost of the repair work/modernisation many times over.

Originally posted by nick2
When you buy a council house they take into account any recent modernisation, and adjust the price accordingly.

If someone has lived in their council house for 20 years already why should they have to wait any longer just because the council have (finally) got round to replacing their windows or gutttering ?

The amount of rent people have paid would cover the cost of the repair work/modernisation many times over.

Because even if the price is adjusted for the work, it isn't done so at market price. Also, what the rent covers is irrelevant - people pay UNsubsidised rent on private properties for years with nothing to show for it.

Originally posted by t020
Because even if the price is adjusted for the work, it isn't done so at market price. Also, what the rent covers is irrelevant - people pay UNsubsidised rent on private properties for years with nothing to show for it.

You have a lot of experience of how the council work-out the selling prices then I assume ?

What the rent covers is not irrelevant, part of the rent covers repairs/alterations made by the council, they don't do it for free.

If people choose to rent privately and have nothing to show for it thats their choice, they can always apply for a council house.

I think you're just arsed because you believe people are getting their houses done-up at your expense.

Originally posted by nick2
You have a lot of experience of how the council work-out the selling prices then I assume ?

What the rent covers is not irrelevant, part of the rent covers repairs/alterations made by the council, they don't do it for free.

If people choose to rent privately and have nothing to show for it thats their choice, they can always apply for a council house.

I think you're just arsed because you believe people are getting their houses done-up at your expense.

They are, to an extent. Council house rent is subsidised by the taxpayer.

Originally posted by t020
What about those who get the council to do their house up and then, immediately after by pure coincidence, exercise their right to buy? Suddenly they've acquired a fully modernised house for the fraction of its market value and can sell at a huge profit. I think the sentiments expressed by fazz is that the reward for hard work is having to pay for everything yourself, and the reward for being a 'dosser' that likes to live off the state is a new bathroom and kitchen. Controversial, but true in some cases.

You can't sell the house for three years min after purchase without having to pay back a proportion of the saving, or indeed offering the council first refusal on the sale.

Originally posted by t020
They are, to an extent. Council house rent is subsidised by the taxpayer.

I'm sure all the old dears in the council flats near me appreciate us helping pay for their new double glazing, guttering and roof tiles to keep them warm this Winter.

Hold on, what am i saying, the wrinkly old layabout scroungers should be paying for their own double glazing, they get enough pension money after all.

Originally posted by nick2
I'm sure all the old dears in the council flats near me appreciate us helping pay for their new double glazing, guttering and roof tiles to keep them warm this Winter.

Hold on, what am i saying, the wrinkly old layabout scroungers should be paying for their own double glazing, they get enough pension money after all.


Yeah - because it's only "old dears" that live in council properties, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by 1Man&hisBMW
You can't sell the house for three years min after purchase without having to pay back a proportion of the saving, or indeed offering the council first refusal on the sale.

I know, but AFAIK you can sell immediately after refurbishment work.

Originally posted by t020
I know, but AFAIK you can sell immediately after refurbishment work.

The council don't refurbish houses that you have bought from them.

Originally posted by nick2
The council don't refurbish houses that you have bought from them.

I know. But you can live in a council house for, say, 4 years, then the council sends people round to put in a new kitchen and bathroom, then bingo, 3 months later the tenant decides to exercise his/her right to buy. No?

Originally posted by t020
I know. But you can live in a council house for, say, 4 years, then the council sends people round to put in a new kitchen and bathroom, then bingo, 3 months later the tenant decides to exercise his/her right to buy. No?

Yes, they can, but then they can't sell it again straight away or they lose all the discount the council gave them.

Originally posted by nick2
Yes, they can, but then they can't sell it again straight away or they lose all the discount the council gave them.

So they CAN sell it straight after refurbishment and cash in and then buy a private property? If so, surely this is cashing in at the taxpayer's expense.

Originally posted by t020
So they CAN sell it straight after refurbishment and cash in and then buy a private property? If so, surely this is cashing in at the taxpayer's expense.

Yes, and No.

This is not complicated.

You say to the council "I want to buy my house from you", the council say (or an independant valuer says) "it's worth £80K", the council then say "but we will sell it to you for £60K".
So you buy the house from the council for £60K, but there is a clause in the contract that says if you sell the house in less than 3 years (I think) you have to pay the council the £20K they knocked off the price for you.
So unless you can sell the house straight away for more than £80K (which you probably won't be able to do, as the valuer takes into account all the modernisations etc. in his price) there is no point in doing it.

I think there might also be a clause that forbids you from selling the property for a certain length of time too.

This explains it, sort of.

http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-area/housing-services/the-right-to-buy/resale

Hi, I moved to Sheffield in April. I live near Meersbrook Park, and have had my car broken into twice.

lowedges,batemoor,gleadless are full of junkies and immigrants a right sorry state,saying that most council estates are bad in sheffield

And some council estates are ok too. Going into council houses on a daily basis I see a wide range of living conditions. Some perfectly normal, some utterly disgusting. Just because someone lives on a council estate it doesn't make them less than the rest. :P

Hi I'm new and I live at the Newfield Green end of the Gleadless Valley, IMO the better end ;) Handful of shops, fairly frequent buses on both sides, no real problems with kids in the area, my car's been left alone (when it did get broke into it was in the floodlit car park of Aunt Sally's on Clarkehouse Road in any case, and it's got a golfball dink inthe passenger door from kids golfing on the green across the road but it's not major), uninterrupted views out to Derbyshire, you can see the bad weather coming in time to get the washing in, uninterrupted sun from lunchtime to sunset during the summer months, I'm not overlooked, my neighbours are ok .... and hopefully starting next April I'll be getting a refurbished kitchen and bathroom :)

Originally posted by tinbin
lowedges,.....full of junkies and immigrants

Wrong

Originally posted by tinbin
batemoor....full of junkies and immigrants

Wrong again.

Originally posted by tinbin
gleadless.....full of junkies and immigrants

And again, wrong.

T020 - you are OWNED!!!

Originally posted by coopster1974
T020 - you are OWNED!!!

Erm.. is that a good or a bad thing? :suspect: :confused:

Is Firth Park an ok place to live though ? If you not on the estate???

Fir Vale, Manor, Arbourthorne, Wybourn, Shirecliffe, Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Blackburn, Wincobank, Parson Cross, Southey Green, Shiregreen/Hartley Brook, Foxhill/Birley Carr, Hemsworth, Newfield Green, Westfield, Hyde Park, Park Hill, Norfolk Park, Grimesthorpe, Upperthorpe, Netherthorpe, Tinsley, Firth Park, Sheffield Lane Top, Longley, Norwood, Batemoor, Jordanthorpe, Low Edges, Bradway, Heeley, Atlas, Pye Bank, Bramall Lane, Broomhall, Wicker, Attercliffe, Neepsend, Shalesmoor

Fir Vale, Manor, Arbourthorne, Wybourn, Shirecliffe, Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Blackburn, Wincobank, Parson Cross, Southey Green, Shiregreen, Foxhill/Birley Carr, Hemsworth, Westfield, Hyde Park, Park Hill, Norfolk Park, Grimesthorpe, Upperthorpe, Netherthorpe, Tinsley, Firth Park, Sheffield Lane Top, Longley, Norwood, Batemoor, Jordanthorpe, Low Edges, Heeley, Atlas, Pye Bank, Bramall Lane, Broomhall, Wicker, Attercliffe


Are you sure you didn't forget somewhere?:suspect:

oh yes...Gleadless Townend, Kelvin/Philadelphia, Parkwood Springs, Frecheville, Woodhouse, Highfields, Roewood/Firshill and Manor Top.

Are you sure you didn't forget somewhere?:suspect:

Yeah, he forgot Hillsborough!

lol

PT

Yeah, he forgot Hillsborough!

lol

PT and Chapeltown.Burncross,Highgreen havent been mentioned yet...yippee:clap:

I had some calls to do on Gleadless last night and I'd always thought it was an alright area until last night... Kids roaming all over, eyes all over (made me feel really uncomfortable) ... Walking out in the road infront of cars, watching me and the other carer while we were waiting to get into a flat... *shudders*... Felt like we were about to be jumped on! Eeeek!

Hiya,

I dont suppose anyone could give me the low down on the general area around woodseats/Fourlane Ends area?

Thanks in advance

xx

Yeah, he forgot Hillsborough!

lol

PT

Hillsborough isn't an estate though.

And no, Hillsborough is not rough either, OK there's a certain element of roughness in the likes of the Freemason's Arms and the Blue Ball pubs, but kick all the chavs out of those pubs and there wouldn't be a problem.

Hillsborough, Burncross, Chapeltown and High Green are OK areas.

Ey!!! I live in Firth Park and it's not as bad as everyone makes out! I'm on that new Barratts estate so it's quite quiet on there!

If it's anything like the Parklands estate on the Manor just give it time. The local scallies will discover it eventually. :hihi:

Fir Vale, Manor, Arbourthorne, Wybourn, Shirecliffe, Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Blackburn, Wincobank, Parson Cross, Southey Green, Shiregreen/Hartley Brook, Foxhill/Birley Carr, Hemsworth, Newfield Green, Westfield, Hyde Park, Park Hill, Norfolk Park, Grimesthorpe, Upperthorpe, Netherthorpe, Tinsley, Firth Park, Sheffield Lane Top, Longley, Norwood, Batemoor, Jordanthorpe, Low Edges, Bradway, Heeley, Atlas, Pye Bank, Bramall Lane, Broomhall, Wicker, Attercliffe, Neepsend, Shalesmoor


Bradway? :confused:

As in the leafy suburb adjacent to Totley in S17?

Personally I don't think you can put it in the same league as all the others. I don't think it's an estate either.

RE: Netherthorpe - careful, redrobbo and Chris will be on to you soon with their deadly-duo act.

Hillsborough isn't an estate though.

And no, Hillsborough is not rough either, OK there's a certain element of roughness in the likes of the Freemason's Arms and the Blue Ball pubs, but kick all the chavs out of those pubs and there wouldn't be a problem.

Stannington is ROUGH

Fir Vale, Manor, Arbourthorne, Wybourn, Shirecliffe, Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Blackburn, Wincobank, Parson Cross, Southey Green, Shiregreen/Hartley Brook, Foxhill/Birley Carr, Hemsworth, Newfield Green, Westfield, Hyde Park, Park Hill, Norfolk Park, Grimesthorpe, Upperthorpe, Netherthorpe, Tinsley, Firth Park, Sheffield Lane Top, Longley, Norwood, Batemoor, Jordanthorpe, Low Edges, Bradway, Heeley, Atlas, Pye Bank, Bramall Lane, Broomhall, Wicker, Attercliffe, Neepsend, Shalesmoor

:hihi: Missed my lot out completely :thumbsup:

Why shouldn't the tenants in council houses have their kitchens and bathrooms brought up to a decent standard?

Some of these properties are over seventy years old, and still have outside (sorry "porch") lavatories. You cannot describe this as anything but primitive!

Rent is paid to the council on their properties. tese monies are supposed to maintain and manage the properties. It's high time that the money the council reap in on what is left of their stock was put back into upgrading the properties.

By the time one has paid rent for twenty-odd years on a property, the tenants have paid back almost the full cost of building the homes. Surely, a little investment needn't be begrudged.

When you mortgage a property, you take it on, in the full knowledge that you personally are responsible for any repairs and maintenance.

When you pay rent, you pay the landlord to repair and maintain the property, it's not solely your responsibility.

Just because a person lives in so-called "social housing" does not mean they ought to accept sub-standard housing.

PT


Top comment lass, brill response to someone whose got their head stuck firmly up their own arsssss!

Top comment lass, brill response to someone whose got their head stuck firmly up their own arsssss!

'You Get Meh(?)', I can assure you, knowing PT's views, they could never be branded 'up their arse', by any stretch of the imagination. The member gives everyone a fair go - certainly not 'up their own arse' views.

:)

Fir Vale, Manor, Arbourthorne, Wybourn, Shirecliffe, Pitsmoor, Burngreave, Blackburn, Wincobank, Parson Cross, Southey Green, Shiregreen/Hartley Brook, Foxhill/Birley Carr, Hemsworth, Newfield Green, Westfield, Hyde Park, Park Hill, Norfolk Park, Grimesthorpe, Upperthorpe, Netherthorpe, Tinsley, Firth Park, Sheffield Lane Top, Longley, Norwood, Batemoor, Jordanthorpe, Low Edges, Bradway, Heeley, Atlas, Pye Bank, Bramall Lane, Broomhall, Wicker, Attercliffe, Neepsend, Shalesmoor

oh yes...Gleadless Townend, Kelvin/Philadelphia, Parkwood Springs, Frecheville, Woodhouse, Highfields, Roewood/Firshill and Manor Top.

Phew! Me and another poster are right lucky! :rolleyes: No mention of either Lowfield or Ecclesall!

Note: There is no 's' in Highfield, just like there is no 'h' in Ecclesall!

:help: Oh! Help me somebody! :help: Who am I beginning to sound like? :hihi:

Top comment lass, brill response to someone whose got their head stuck firmly up their own arsssss!

sorry YGM... just done a quick check of my rear orifice.. nope, not a sign of my head being up there.

sorry to disappoint.... :D :R

Kent boy, thanks, BTW! :thumbsup:

PT

Stannington is ROUGH

No it isn't :rant:

I originate from The Manor Estate, then Basegreen, then Norfolk Park and for the last 30 years Totley. I was never mugged on the Manor, Basegreen or Norfolk Park but was in Totley, does that make Totley the worst?

I originate from The Manor Estate, then Basegreen, then Norfolk Park and for the last 30 years Totley. I was never mugged on the Manor, Basegreen or Norfolk Park but was in Totley, does that make Totley the worst?

According to this thread.........YES! :D :hihi:

According to this thread.........YES! :D :hihi:

Oh s--t and I thought that I had come up in the world, back to the drawing board but not to The Manor.

And some council estates are ok too. Going into council houses on a daily basis I see a wide range of living conditions. Some perfectly normal, some utterly disgusting. Just because someone lives on a council estate it doesn't make them less than the rest. :P

I quite agree. I moved to Lowedges in Jan. I had previously lived in Lowedges 3 years earlier (top end) and to be honest, I only spent 3 months in the bedsit I was in with my partner and hated every minute of living there, so you can understand that I was a bit dubious about coming back. We got offered our property, which this time was a 2 bed flat, much nicer, more room etc. Once we'd decorated it and put carpets down we couldn't believe the transformation from what it looked like before to now. We were really proud. Fair enough, Lowedges can be classed as a rough estate but I personally think it all depends which part of it you live in. Fair enough, we have gangs of youths hanging about outside on our stairs, but theres nothing else better for them to do. Just becuase the estate has a name for itself doesn't mean that everyone on that estate is put under the same tag. I know that I'm not a druggie and I know that my home is somewhere that I feel safe and I'm proud of.

Some parts of foxhill are really bad.Pitsmoor,wouldnt live there rent free.Although it wasnt always like that years ago.

Anyone had any experience of Hemsworth & Gleadless in either S8 or S14 postcodes. Looking to buy a first home in either Blackstock Road (towards the water tower) or on the edge of Hemsworth by Norton Avenue.

Haven't heard anything said yet - is this a good thing?

House prices are rising well below the national average - a bad thing?

Any help would be appreciated, cheers

:D :D :D