I was really concerned the other night, when I turned on the TV and there was an advert with a man using Jeyes Fluid to clean the family rabbit hutch. Personally, I would never use something as strong as this, nor as evil smelling ... Is this safe to use?

safe and the best....no smell either,sold in all good pet stores, this is the ****** imo!

I thought Jeyes Fluid was safe with pets, i :love: the smell

It's nowhere near as strong as it was it's changed totally,i think it was health and safety laws that did it.

I thought Jeyes Fluid was safe with pets, i :love: the smell

The types of disinfectants like Jeyes and SanIzal that go "milky/cloudy" when diluted are definitely dangerous and HIGHLY TOXIC to cats.

I don't know if those products are as toxic to Buns and other small pets, but I would be very, very wary, and I would not use them for Buns, GP's or other small pets until I'd checked and double checked that they were safe.

The Safe4pets range of disinfectants are just that, you can buy them via Rainrescue, they are more expensive but very concentrated really good and kill lots of virus's and bacteria they also smell nice...oh and you can buy a cracking deodouriser as well.
I don't think that Jeyes fluid is safe for animals if its wet, in an hutch the urine is likely to reactivate it I should think.

Safe4Pets products are a better option.

The fumes from Jeyes fluid are indeed dangerous to rabbits and as such it must be used with care.

I keep a bottle of Jeyes in my cupboard because last year we had a suspected outbreak of Coccidiosis which is a nasty and contagious protozoa which is very hard to kill. It is resiliant against veterinary grade disinfectants such as Virkon and Trigene and so far the only effective solution I have found is steam cleaning or the use of Jeyes Fluid.

Jeyes must be used in a well ventilated area away from the rabbits and the equiptment cleaned must be thoroughly rinsed and aired after use. The rabbits must not be put in the hutch, nor should the hutch be re-bedded, unless it is dry and fume free.

The use of Jeyes should be reserved for cleaning second hand hutches or between hutch residents as opposed to for day to day cleaning, unless, you have a suspected outbreak of disease.

The above posts confirmed what I feared.

I would only use jeyes if there were a real need and then i wouldn't be putting any animal near it , I use Safe4 pts and Defra products which are the safest

I'm a Safe4 convert too- there's no need to use something that's so harsh or toxic as Jeyes unless as Sooz says, you've got an outbreak of something that's specifically resistant to normal disinfectants.

The only issue that the Shelter found with using of Safe4 is that the odourless variety is so odourless that it's hard to believe that you've put enough into your water, so people tend to use far more than they need to.

I worked out that at the recommended daily use concentrations (according to LD50 calculations) a 1kg kitten would need to drink almost half a litre of disinfectant to run the risk of seriously hurting themselves.

safe4 is brilliant and the apple smell is gorgeous!

I haven't tried a smelly one but the non smelly one is ace

I am the Norther agent for Safe4 pets (my day job - not the Rain Rescue side of things)

Jeyes fluid is great for cleaning out drains - what does that tell you?
Would touch the stuff around anything that has to breath or has skin

Check out the products here WWW.E-K9.CO.UK for all the info.

We sell to so many places I couldn't list on here - but its the fastest growing on the market - because it doesn't burn - even when wet.

The odourless one is often used for reptiles, cavies and marine life (we sell to Seaworld)

I would only use jeyes if there were a real need and then i wouldn't be putting any animal near it , I use Safe4 pts and Defra products which are the safest

Check the Safe4 website for germs and diseases that it kills though. I don't think Coccidiosis is on the list, so I'd stick with Sooz's advice above :thumbsup:

I use Safe4 for all kinds of things. It cleans the patio without killing any plants with it's run off, it kills pink mildew in bathrooms (and shower door seals), and it's even good for cleaning the dog latrine in the garden :D

No thats quite right but when we steam clean the hutches and use certain defra products ( like the vets use) we feel pretty safe. We also take advice from peak vets as to what we should use , they have okayed our cleaning materials but have said never to use Jeyes fluid near them.

The veterinary grade disinfectants, Virkon and Trigene are both ineffective against the protozoa's Encephalitozoon Cuniculi and Coccidia. Infact there has been a recent outcry against the fact that many rabbits may have contracted EC whilst at the vets due to them not using effective cleaning solutions between patients.

Extreme heat is effective against both however so if you have a steam cleaner it is a much healthier alternative to Jeyes. If not I would recommend it's use simply because protozoans are very hardy and can survive in the environment for a month or more without a host.

Like Teeny says i would think a steam cleaner would be a safe bet.When they demo them on shopping tv they say it sanitizes wooden chopping boards and baby high chairs.

I use the steam cleaner along side safe 4 products.

Sooz - how does Safe4 compare against the others with protozoa's Encephalitozoon Cuniculi and Coccidia.
Rabbits is not an area I specialise in - I know Safe4 is much better than them because of the safety when wet - but I don't know about its effectiveness with them. I can find out if you don't know though.

I know its used by RSPCA and Twycross Zoo in so many of the animal care areas - it should be right.

I was told other day a family member had used Jays to mop kitchen up i dont if it was diluted or were rabbit was at time she actually moped up i know exactly what was coming next though ( soon after that the rabbit was dead ) I would never suggest using it then returning any pet were it has been for a long while.

I would never use it near rabbits or indeed any animals , we used Jays i in a hospital in Bulawayo Zimbabwe to kill the cockroaches that were there and they died in seconds so just think how quickly it gets to a bunny! or Guinea! etc. I also have to say it got on my chest, making me cough and wheeze!

how on earth can they say it is pet safe then?
I was looking at chemicals to power wash ou patio with as i have never done it before and i looked at Jeyes and they even have a picture of a dog on the front of the can an letters saying 'pet friendly' i did however read the back of some of them and although they use the Jeyes name they say they don'tactually contain Jeyes fluid, it's all very confusing.

I was cleaning one of my rabbits out this morning and was mortified to find a big fat horrible slug in the hutch...
I immediatley killed the horrible thing and cleaned my poor rabbit out,, then got rid of all the dead leaves from round the hutch and doused the area(not in or on the hutch)it with Jayes Fluid..to keep away the slugs and put slug pellets round them too.
Im mortified to hear that rabbits dont like Jayes fluid.
They scarperd pretty quickly into there sleeping areas.
But have been out munching all afternoon..
Is it just the smell they hate??

Angelstar, there's a difference between 'don't like' and 'it can kill'

Strix...are you saying it could kill my rabbits...even tho i only swilled behind the hutches and on the patio in front?

Read the posts above - I'm not a rabbit person so am no authority on the matter

Strix...are you saying it could kill my rabbits...even tho i only swilled behind the hutches and on the patio in front?

Yes it could !!! thats exactly what is being said, its can happen from the fumes

so basically i could wake up to 2 dead rabbits tommorrow?
O great.

so basically i could wake up to 2 dead rabbits tommorrow?
O great.

Hopefully not but Jeyes fluid is not pet safe , I never use it , I use pets safe products so as to be sure of not harming my animals also you can get hibiscrub for hutches from the vets.

well i was up till 2am last night in and out making sure they were ok..
there bright as buttons this morning..
lesson learnt....

well i was up till 2am last night in and out making sure they were ok..
there bright as buttons this morning..
lesson learnt....

Thats good , I am happy nothing untoward happend . :)

jeyes fluid is pet safe if diluted i have used it for my hutches for years and is also used for avaris pidgeons ect it also states it is pet safe and it is the best for disingfecting i have never had any probs i spray my litter trays daily i have never had a rabbit drop dead

jeyes fluid is pet safe if diluted i have used it for my hutches for years and is also used for avaris pidgeons ect it also states it is pet safe and it is the best for disingfecting i have never had any probs i spray my litter trays daily i have never had a rabbit drop dead

I am not being funny here but our vet wouldn't encourage us to use this we use pet safe products which jeyes certainly isn't safe look at what it contains! I have done a great deal of research both for personal use and for buisness , Our vet who advised us on what products to use said never to use Jeyes in hutches or around guineapigs and rabbits. My friend lost 2 rabbits as result of using jeyes several years ago now, which is why i wouldn't use anything but safe 4 pets products or indeed that which is used in vets practices.

well its been good for me all thease years oh and a vet would say that to get you to buy it .its like them saying sience food is the best because they sell it

I use Virkon, or Safe4, both used in vets surgeries. Its not worth risking your pets over a maybe

From jeyes
We would advise that Jeyes Fluid is harmful to animals if they ingest it in either a neat or dilute form.

Kind regards

Anita Shinnick
Consumer Relations Manager
E-mail: anita.shinnick@jeyes.co.uk

well it says it can be used to clean animal housers and dog kennels on the tin and they are highly unlikley to injest it unless you feed it to them

well it says it can be used to clean animal housers and dog kennels on the tin and they are highly unlikley to injest it unless you feed it to themEver heard of animals chewing things.That means nothing ive got pet shampo,s says safe on bottles for pets.But there not actaly if its not rinsed of as its pesticides.Plus if you read my past post the vet confirmed it was jeyes that killed the rabbit even though it had no actual contact.

how did he confirm that did he find it in its stomock im not being funny but would like to know

I used Jeyes to clean out rabbit hutches for years and never lost one animal. I let the rabbits into their run, cleaned out the hutch then scrubbed it out with Jeyes, left it to dry all day then put them back in at night

how did he confirm that did he find it in its stomock im not being funny but would like to knowNot sure sumat to with lungs i believe.
I used to use it for hutchers if i had closed one down after breeding them but nothing went near it for weeks.
This is part of a report note the last part.P1

P1 Virkon is more active in the presence of organic material, but won't touch coccidiosis, which in turn requires a phenol-based (and therefore more toxic) product such as Jeyes fluid is required.

P2 Phenol is also a powerful disinfectant and bacteria killer. This is ideal for not only an air freshener but also other products like medicinal ointments and lotions. However the chemical is highly corrosive and moderately toxic. It effects humans by burning the skin and other tissue that it comes into contact with. This gives severe skin burning and if inhaled serious internal corrosion.

I used Jeyes to clean out rabbit hutches for years and never lost one animal. I let the rabbits into their run, cleaned out the hutch then scrubbed it out with Jeyes, left it to dry all day then put them back in at night

exatly that i cant understand how the op rabbit died and how the vet new it had killed it :confused:

Not sure sumat to with lungs i believe.
I used to use it for hutchers if i had closed one down after breeding them but nothing went near it for weeks.
This is part of a report note the last part.P1

P1 Virkon is more active in the presence of organic material, but won't touch coccidiosis, which in turn requires a phenol-based (and therefore more toxic) product such as Jeyes fluid is required.

P2 Phenol is also a powerful disinfectant and bacteria killer. This is ideal for not only an air freshener but also other products like medicinal ointments and lotions. However the chemical is highly corrosive and moderately toxic. It effects humans by burning the skin and other tissue that it comes into contact with. This gives severe skin burning and if inhaled serious internal corrosion.
oh well i have had no bad out comes from useing it i still think its the best for killing germs so will cary on useing it

oh well i have had no bad out comes from useing it i still think its the best for killing germs so will cary on useing it

Not disputing its good i think a lot of people are getting a can pooring jayes into bucket and its far too much to start with.1 Table spoon max into a bucket is all that is required.And it must be totaly dry not damp in hutches,etc before returning them.And best keep any animals away whilst doing so.But theres much safer products as stated in past thread.

Not disputing its good i think a lot of people are getting a can pooring jayes into bucket and its far too much to start with.1 Table spoon max into a bucket is all that is required.And it must be totaly dry not damp in hutches,etc before returning them.And best keep any animals away whilst doing so.But theres much safer products as stated in past thread.

yes but more pricey and not as good

well its been good for me all thease years oh and a vet would say that to get you to buy it .its like them saying sience food is the best because they sell it

the vets only sell the spray they use safe 4 products come independantly and my vet has in the past given me Hibiscrub free to me so its not always the case!

well it says it can be used to clean animal housers and dog kennels on the tin and they are highly unlikley to injest it unless you feed it to them

how did he confirm that did he find it in its stomock im not being funny but would like to know

It doesn't have to be swallowed to poison your animal, it can be absorbed through the skin.

It doesn't have to be swallowed to poison your animal, it can be absorbed through the skin.

True and this has happened in the past so many times ,

After reading this thread it is apparent that Jeys Fluid is a hazard to all animals especially small ones and could potentially be fatal, I guess the debate will go on and on but my point is, if you love your pets then why take the risk when there are so many other options available? If the expense is a problem then a steam cleaner being a one off purchase and would eventually work out even cheaper than a Jeys Fluid, I repeat why take the risk?

be cause jeyes is the best and if used correctly is not a risk i dont care what your vet said ask him or her if they can go back forty years and still say that it has been used without probs for generations

be cause jeyes is the best and if used correctly is not a risk i dont care what your vet said ask him or her if they can go back forty years and still say that it has been used without probs for generations

I for one would always take the advice of teeny she has saved my rabbit from death in the past , I also would not disrespect my vet who after all is well qualified on how to care for each of my pets, all I can say is how stupid to ignor valueble advice ! oh and Just for the record 40 years ago we would never have used jeyes fluid round animals ( well at least not where I come from) I have to say I would never wish to knowingly endanger my pets.:loopy:

be cause jeyes is the best and if used correctly is not a risk i dont care what your vet said ask him or her if they can go back forty years and still say that it has been used without probs for generations

Ok, you are prepared to go against the valid information given here. fair enough.

be cause jeyes is the best and if used correctly is not a risk i dont care what your vet said ask him or her if they can go back forty years and still say that it has been used without probs for generations

I really don't understand your determination to push Jeyes Fluid, could you be a share holder? lol

I guess it is up to you in the long run what you use but I really think you should not be promoting it when there are so many small animal experts and professionals advising against it.

It does seem very odd to me that someone would still refuse to consider another cleaning product knowing that there's the potential for the one they're using to be harmful to their animals.

Whether or not I had had a problem with it in the past, I would not use it having read the information here. I don't understand why you'd take even a 1% risk when you could use one that has 0% risk?

wackyjaki if you want to continue using it, that's your choice entirely - it's only your animals you are putting at risk, nobody else's so it has nothing to do with anyone else. I would be interested though, if you wish to explain, why you would still want to use it rather than using anything else? Do you have a personal interest in the company? Otherwise it would surely be worth trying something else to see what else is available?

I would just ask that even if you choose to continue using it yourself, you don't recommend it's use to other pet owners when even the company themselves have agreed it has the potential to harm animals, it's one thing using it yourself and taking that risk but it's a completely different thing suggesting to other pet owners that they use it, especially if they are not made aware of the information in this thread.

Jeyes is from the same family of disinfectants that go cloudy when put into water (like san IZAL) I can't remember the name of this particular type.

What I do know is that they are quite definitely highly toxic to cats, and that they aren't safe for use with rodents.

This was from a gardenng section as it was used alot on allotments.
Im not sure how true some of then statemnts are but a lot of them are true.
"Jeyes Fluid contains carbolic acid (also known as phenol). Very high concentrations of phenol can cause death if swallowed, breathed in or absorbed through skin. Long- term exposure may cause liver and kidney damage. Skin contact may result in pigmentation, chemical acne and even cancer. Skin and lung cancers developed in mice that were exposed to this substance. Exposure can damage the liver and cause headaches, cardiac depression, nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, dizziness, a feeling of intoxication, and irritations of the eyes, nose, mouth, and throat." We do not recomend it to be used as a soil pest control

you know its funny in fact its so funny it makes me laugh how a disinfectant used by gardeners bird keepers dog keepers and rabbit keepers for years is now harmful to pets even though it says on tin for animal houses kennels and such . and why havnt any of my animals droped dead then are they imune or am i just useing it correctly .the thred states is jeyes harmful to rabbits well i havnt had any probs .once a week i take my bunnies out scrub kennels and cages then put back when dry .im not adviceing any one to do the same each to there own im just stating i have had know probs .now will you all draw your fangs in . thankyou

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its not a case of that!! its protecting our animals !

From jeyes
We would advise that Jeyes Fluid is harmful to animals if they ingest it in either a neat or dilute form.

Kind regards

Anita Shinnick
Consumer Relations Manager
E-mail: anita.shinnick@jeyes.co.uk

oh i forgot could you please get back to this person and ask why is it prnted on the tin it can be used for hutchers stables kennels avariers if it is not safe then let her explain that to every one i read that on the tin today it also says not caterys wich we already knew so what do you keep in hutchers well let me see:confused:oh rabbits of cause

Wow, did I really start this thread? I'd never use strong smelling stuff now ... Though I have used watered down Dettol then hosed it out and left the cage to dry.

I've found the best thing to do, is line the bottom of the cage with gaffa tape (spelling) so each strips overlaps the other. It makes it so so easy to just wipe out then.

Wow, did I really start this thread? I'd never use strong smelling stuff now ... Though I have used watered down Dettol then hosed it out and left the cage to dry.

I've found the best thing to do, is line the bottom of the cage with gaffa tape (spelling) so each strips overlaps the other. It makes it so so easy to just wipe out then.

we have lino on ours which is easy to clean too , my son has tiled the bottom of several cages in the past and used pet friendly sealant to seal it works a treat but far the best way to clean a hutch is a steam cleaner.

we have lino on ours which is easy to clean too , my son has tiled the bottom of several cages in the past and used pet friendly sealant to seal it works a treat but far the best way to clean a hutch is a steam cleaner.Thats all i use now but its home made bit like a jet wash but very high pressure steam just add antibacterial wash to it if needed.

Thats all i use now but its home made bit like a jet wash but very high pressure steam just add antibacterial wash to it if needed.

agreed there , its nothing better ! although i am always wetter than my clean hutches lol

my hutches take ages to dry...especially this time of year..
The loo area is constantley wet and im forever trying to dry it out with wood chippings...
In summer im so gonna dry it out completley and try the gaffer tape...
I layer wood chippings & then newspaper then straw in toilet area and clean out every saturday...but still soddened and it stinks

well i use litter trys that i clean dayly but i still scrub out once a week eaven if its only spray srub they get done once a week i spray clean litter trays dayly

agreed there , its nothing better ! although i am always wetter than my clean hutches lolOh i dont get wet and only 5 mins to dry hutchers.Never used the ones you buy so not tried one out.This was a large steamer that was origenaly on a industrial iron i just made a couple adjustments and made a jet for end of pipe.

all i can say is that my home boarding license does not recommend using jeyes for cleaning my yards which dogs mite use occassionally , so for smaller pets maybe this is not a good idea. and i am licensed by local authority and the folk who license me im sure know there stuff

thanks to the OP and everyone thats commented...
Im going to get my 2 little tykes a litter tray and no more jeyes fluid round my lil rabbits or anywhere near my dog may go...

thanks to the OP and everyone thats commented...
Im going to get my 2 little tykes a litter tray and no more jeyes fluid round my lil rabbits or anywhere near my dog may go...

litter trays are always good and easy to clean out however mine just turn the litter trays upside down in play lol