View Full Version : Marquis of granby derbyshire RIP.
Bikertec 02-06-2008, 20:58 Yet another of our grand buildings have now gone. Drove past today and its all gone apart from a little building. Dated back to the 17th century, how can they do this and then keep things like the park hill flats. Its make me so angry seeing this like this happen.:mad:
I'm sure they could have found another use for it.
It would have made a superb conference centre, for instance. I suppose it was down to economics.
Had some great times there in the late sixties at the disco nights.
RiffRaff 02-06-2008, 22:28 Yet another of our grand buildings have now gone. Drove past today and its all gone apart from a little building. Dated back to the 17th century, how can they do this and then keep things like the park hill flats. Its make me so angry seeing this like this happen.:mad:
Spot on, Biker - couldn't have put it better myself.
Nigel Womersle 02-06-2008, 23:52 I used to go to the Marquis of Granby every Saturday night to its Disco. They named it the 'As You Like It'. It was half a crown (12.5p) to get in. This was 1967.
happyhippy 03-06-2008, 01:00 I'd heard that it was going to become flats, but it's a crying shame that building has gone.
No, it's a disgrace.
Once stayed there in the height of summer when it was very hot. The room was like a fridge (must have been the thick stone walls)
I used to go to the Marquis of Granby every Saturday night to its Disco. They named it the 'As You Like It'. It was half a crown (12.5p) to get in. This was 1967.
used to got there in the 70's for disco night. Can't remember how much it was but do remember the admission price included a basket of chips
Bikertec 03-06-2008, 17:35 Once stayed there in the height of summer when it was very hot. The room was like a fridge (must have been the thick stone walls)Some of the rooms were very active, a lot of entities were still active there. :o
Barry Smith 30-01-2011, 15:44 I helped install and maintain the disco.Good memories,of doing repairs, and then dancing with waitresses in the after noons between oppening hours
It was stone, it was attractive, it had charm, it fitted in .... of course it had to come down.:rolleyes:
Being 'charming' isn't good enough.
It closed because people didn't use it as a pub or hotel.
It was demolished because the planning department were unrealistic about what they were insisting on for redevelopment.
Hey ho, a lesson learned? Nah.
Wasn't commenting on any personal failing with regards decision-making Tony, just pointing out that it is usually buildings that meet these criteria that inevitably get the chop ...... for whatever reason. Never the eyesores, unfortunately.:(
The central building is still there though. It's the later additions that have been demolished.
There appears to be work going on to redevelop the site, but at a snails pace. I heard it was planned to be a Holiday Inn, but I have no idea if that's true.
The central building is still there though. It's the later additions that have been demolished.
There appears to be work going on to redevelop the site, but at a snails pace. I heard it was planned to be a Holiday Inn, but I have no idea if that's true.What a beautiful place for a house ....... if you could afford the renovation costs. Don't think it's been touched in ages has it?
Wasn't commenting on any personal failing with regards decision-making Tony, just pointing out that it is usually buildings that meet these criteria that inevitably get the chop ...... for whatever reason. Never the eyesores, unfortunately.:(
The trouble is saxon51 that old buildings are often not fit for modern use so they gradually become practically economically unviable until the last person out turns off the lights before they are cleared for something more useful.
We all want modern facilities and cheap prices but you need modern buildings to do that. The world rolls on and sometimes we have to accept it.
Well someone decided that the main Marquis of Granby building was worth keeping and modernising.
HATHER-SAGE 30-01-2011, 20:17 Well someone decided that the main Marquis of Granby building was worth keeping and modernising.its going to be a hilton hotel.google it .as i have seen the plans..they are keeping the main building
Well someone decided that the main Marquis of Granby building was worth keeping and modernising.
The planners.
Hellaby Hall is an example of compromise with old buildings. It's a mess.
its going to be a hilton hotel.google it .as i have seen the plans..they are keeping the main buildingYou mean this? (http://www.marquisofgranbyhotel.co.uk/)
Supposed to open 2011?
Well I drove past today and nothing has changed for a long time...except a bloody great wall has been built where the above image shows a natural hedge and walkway.
It looks to me as though it's going to be a private residence now.
The planners.
Hellaby Hall is an example of compromise with old buildings. It's a mess.
You mean it's listed?
No, it's a mess.
The way that the old hall has been tagged into the new hotel it a mess. It goes without saying that using old outbuildings for core activities is equally unsatisfactory.
I'm not offering solutions here, just outlining the real problems of using old buildings for modern facilities is. Unless the old building itself is a part of the core purpose (eg country house hotel / evil genius HQ) it's difficult if not impossible to end up with something that works.
TMoG is just an old building of no real note apart from it's charm (personally I don't think it's that good anyway) but you either have to accept that you need to compromise and maybe fail financially as a developer or the planners have to accept that it is past its useful life and permit something that is of real use to people.
We don't keep every Austin Maxi just because it's old do we? We shouldn't keep buildings just because they are old either.
campa chick 04-02-2011, 12:41 I remember going there in the 60's and drinking Babysham of all things....uuuggghhhh!!!!
Couldn't it have been used for weddings ? but I suppose like some said the up-dating would cost too much, aren't buildings like that protected under a conservation law or something ?
On second thought, most every building in England would have to be protected wouldn't it, too many lovely old buildings....so sad.
BettyBooHoo! 04-02-2011, 14:09 What a shame :(
We used to go every Christmas day when I was a wee nipper in the 80's. Happy memories.
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