So the first witherspoons pub will be non smoking in just 3 wks time,I for one will certainly go their more often now.
And lets hope that more pubs will follow their lead shortly.

HERES TO CLEAN AIR AT LAST:thumbsup:

Indeedy. It will be nice for the non-smokers, and at least smokers have still got some choice of other establishments. For a few months anyhow. After that, well to be honest I'm still not too sure how I feel about social choices being imposed on free-minded adults.

I applaud the smoking ban. It's almost impossible to go out anywhere for a drink in this city, without coming back stinking of fags. Some places are even worse and often I stand there with my eyes watering. I know of only one non smoking room, in my usual drinking areas, and often stand in the doorway, corridor or go outside.

Originally posted by muddycoffee
I applaud the smoking ban. It's almost impossible to go out anywhere for a drink in this city, without coming back stinking of fags. Some places are even worse and often I stand there with my eyes watering. I know of only one non smoking room, in my usual drinking areas, and often stand in the doorway, corridor or go outside.

I too applaud the smoking ban.. Soon we'll be able to walk out of a pub without smelling like an ashtray, and our health will be the better for it as well, cos of less passive smoking.

Yes its about time the rights of the majority was heard on this issue,I also am sick and tired of smelling like a ash tray after a night out.
I spoke to the manager of the witherspoons on glossop road and he says next year they will all be non smoking,cant wait.:thumbsup:

I agree.
I hate to come home from a social evening and hang up my clothes knowing that before I wear them again, I shall have to wash them, even though they are not really dirty,just smell of smoke.
I shall venture more in to pubs when all the smokers are gone

For those of us who work in bars it will be great when we don't have to breathe in 2nd hand smoke.

Already most people won't come and stand at the bar with a ciggie in their hand because they know it's not allowed any more.

A couple of years ago that would have been unthinkable!

I wonder if the trade will actually be better when the ash trays have been kicked out?
not long now.:hihi:

In some places trade will undoubtedly be better, I too hate smoky bars. It's just that as a few become voluntarily non-smoking, the others are going to get more smokey until it's all law.

I'm sure that a large proportion of the population don't go into bars and pubs for that very reason. I know someone from the irish border, where one side is smoking banned and the other not, and the non smoking side is extremely busy, the pubs on the smoking side have now started to ban smoking too, because they are missing out on most of the trade.

Yes you have a point about the rest getting worse,I really feel sorry for those who will have to work in those places,we need to get a complete ban NOW. :thumbsup:

No one complains about not being able to smoke on an airoplane for a couple of hours anymore, shows how quick they will get over not being able to smoke in pubs. They will probably forget about it all together in 6 months. And of course many will finally be able to stop all together.

Yes, most people have not considered that there is a distinct possibility that pubs and bars may actually be fuller with people who do not now go in as they hate the smoke.
There must be loads and loads of people like that in the country who will look forward to a decent drink in a comfortable environment .
There may even be more encouragement by pubs to include families instead of them in the past being treated like 2nd class citizens,as women used to be in working mens clubs!!

Yes it will be far better for the familys with young kids,We in this country are miles behind the times when it comes to providing for familys.

Originally posted by muddycoffee
No one complains about not being able to smoke on an airoplane for a couple of hours anymore, shows how quick they will get over not being able to smoke in pubs. They will probably forget about it all together in 6 months. And of course many will finally be able to stop all together.
Sorry to disappoint you but not all pubs are going to become non-smoking. Under government proposals smoking will be allowed in pubs that don't serve food. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4014597.stm

This not only forces the anti-smoking brigade into pubs like Wetherspoons but also means that smokers in the other pubs won't have to listen to you moaning as they enjoy a smoke. The people who also insist on bringing kids into pubs will likely head for the non-smoking pubs too, bonus!

I'm sure that many of you will still feel uneasy that someone is enjoying themselves in a way you disapprove of but I'm sure you'll think up another way of interfering in peoples lives.

Have fun in Wetherspoons! LOL :gag:

I appauld a ban as well.

As to being prevented a social choice, I don't think you should have something banned that stops you doing something harmless. With smoking I don't have the choice to breath in others smoke, well I do I don't go where people are smoking.

When you drink you chose to possibly pickle your liver, doesn't affect me you smoke I breath it and it affects my health.

Bring on a ban to all public place, smoke in private. I don't even think you should be allowed to smoke in the street, I hate walking in the nice outdoors only for the wind to be blowing in the wrong direction and I get a lung full of fag smoke that I didn't ask for.

Originally posted by InvalidUser
Sorry to disappoint you but not all pubs are going to become non-smoking. Under government proposals smoking will be allowed in pubs that don't serve food. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4014597.stm

This not only forces the anti-smoking brigade into pubs like Wetherspoons but also means that smokers in the other pubs won't have to listen to you moaning as they enjoy a smoke. The people who also insist on bringing kids into pubs will likely head for the non-smoking pubs too, bonus!

I'm sure that many of you will still feel uneasy that someone is enjoying themselves in a way you disapprove of but I'm sure you'll think up another way of interfering in peoples lives.

Have fun in Wetherspoons! LOL :gag:

what noxious fumes you don't can I force you to breath???:loopy:

I bet witherspoons will Clean up when the smokers are forced out,might be great for the business.:heyhey:

Originally posted by jubby
what noxious fumes you don't can I force you to breath???:loopy:
What? Is that supposed to be a sentence?

Originally posted by InvalidUser
What? Is that supposed to be a sentence?

When you smoke and I am near I HAVE to breath the noxious fumes i can't make my body shut those fumes off, so why you enjoy killing yourself I shouldn't have to partake in your "fun".

Originally posted by jubby
When you smoke and I am near I HAVE to breath the noxious fumes i can't make my body shut those fumes off, so why you enjoy killing yourself I shouldn't have to partake in your "fun".
I don't smoke.

Actually Invaliduser, that's quite 'funny'. We will be banning 'funny' shortly.

Watch this space...

Only when funny hurts others health,you know like fags do.:heyhey:

i can definately see it from all your points of views, it is good for people that don't like smoky bars but wetherspoons has lost a regular now ... no more cheap beer for me *sniff* .... i remember having to sit in the non smoking bit once and kept running outside every hour to have one ...im just glad all pubs haven't banned smoking yet. but what decent pub round the city centre doesn't sell food? am going to have to get prepared for a ban. smoking is my decision , its my body that i am harming and i do enjoy it ... maybe a better compromise would be to have one level for smoking and another for non smoking ? also , road names always get the better of me , is cambridge street the one by barkers pool?

Fantastic news!! Not only is wetherspoons cheap, but soon to be cheap and smoke free. I'll be going in there more :clap:

Originally posted by zombiekillah
i can definately see it from all your points of views, it is good for people that don't like smoky bars but wetherspoons has lost a regular now ... no more cheap beer for me *sniff* .... i remember having to sit in the non smoking bit once and kept running outside every hour to have one ...im just glad all pubs haven't banned smoking yet. but what decent pub round the city centre doesn't sell food? am going to have to get prepared for a ban. smoking is my decision , its my body that i am harming and i do enjoy it ... maybe a better compromise would be to have one level for smoking and another for non smoking ? also , road names always get the better of me , is cambridge street the one by barkers pool?

Not got a problem with smokers like you say its your decision, but I have to go to places that don't allow smoking to enjoy myself with or without my children. Like you said you can pop outside for your fix, do you expect me to pop outsside to enjoy a meal, drink etc. Meadowhall is so much better without the smoking, as is the bus station in town. Yes you still get the one inconsiderate prat that can't follow the rules becuase they think they are better and above everyone else in society.

Smoking doesn't just effect you its effects people in the surrounding area that is also breathing YOUR second hand smoke.

Originally posted by InvalidUser
Sorry to disappoint you but not all pubs are going to become non-smoking. Under government proposals smoking will be allowed in pubs that don't serve food. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4014597.stm

This not only forces the anti-smoking brigade into pubs like Wetherspoons but also means that smokers in the other pubs won't have to listen to you moaning as they enjoy a smoke. The people who also insist on bringing kids into pubs will likely head for the non-smoking pubs too, bonus!

I'm sure that many of you will still feel uneasy that someone is enjoying themselves in a way you disapprove of but I'm sure you'll think up another way of interfering in peoples lives.

Have fun in Wetherspoons! LOL :gag:

Sorry way I read this was that you were pro smoker and I haven't met a non-smoking pro smoker unless they used to be a smoker.

banning smoking in wetherspoons pub is one thing - it is a generally family orientated sort of pub , no loud music , very commercial etc. but im sure theres a lot of smaller pubs all over the country that will suffer in business as a result of the ban .

where is camebridge street? is it in town near the ask pizza place and john lewis?

I'm a cigar smoker, and try to be considerate to others by not smoking where it makes other people uncomfortable. I think Weatherspoons should be applauded for introducing a no-smoking policy on their licensed premises. But the government should legislate to ban smoking in pubs, like Ireland and other places. I choose to run the risk of harming myself by smoking - but that isn't a reason for exposing others to risk through passive smoking.

yeah!!!!!!!!!!

way to go weatherspoons :clap: :clap: :clap:

Hopefully a few more will follow its lead.

I agree though that whilst smoking cigerettes etc are legal, then some pubs should be allowed to be 'smoking' if they wish provided they are not selling food. If all smoking is banned in pubs this goes against freedom of choice for smokers.

If on the other hand, smoking becomes illegal because nicotine is just as harmful a drug as other narcotics, then smoking can then be justifably banned in pubs. (**drifts off into never-never land...........**)

Just how much in taxes do the govt get from smoking ?
How much does smoking related illness cost the NHS?
Would like to see the net result of this equation!

I had heard that the govt gets more in tax from cigarettes than it spends on smoking-related treatments through the NHS. Am pretty sure that (as with all stats) holes could be picked in favour of either argument though.
Still, it will make Wetherspoons a more pleasant place to be. Now if only they'd bring back chilli burgers on the menu....

The last time I saw the official figures , smokers paid about 8 times in taxes what it costs the N.H.S. to treat smoke-related illnesses in hospital , so I suppose in that sense at least , us smokers are doing everyone a favour. The next time someone's granny goes for a hip-replacement they can thank the bloke next door as he coughs and splutters on his way to the pub. I may be wrong about the exact figure but it was somewhere in that region.
Another statistic I've never seen published is the comparitive figures between people dying of lung cancer of those who live in cities and those who live in the country. I've a suspicious feeling that a lot of the lung cancer deaths are caused through urban pollution , particularly the car . So , as you drive out for a day in the country or visit your friends , think how you might be causing a few more people to keel over and hand in their dinner pail. Also , how much pollution was caused in the manafacture of your car ? Is every car or every car journey really necessary ? No , of course not. A lot of driving is done for pleasure and convenience----just as the smoker smokes for pleasure.
Also a lot of surveys have been done to show that passive smoking is virtually harmless. If you do 10 surveys and 5 of them show smoking to be harmful , you can then say , "Surveys have proved that smoking causes ....."
I'll be pleased if the non-smokers get their own pubs but you can bet your life [!] that won't be the end of it . The next step will be "District Nicotene -free areas ". Meanwhile the legalisation of cannabis creeps nearer and 24 hour punch-ups and vomiting are just round the corner. Have a nice day !

The fact that people smoke in Wetherspoons pubs is not what makes them unpleasant.

Originally posted by nick2
The fact that people smoke in Wetherspoons pubs is not what makes them unpleasant.

Agreed,but they are alright to go to for some early cheap drinks before moving on somewhere with a bit more style.with the exception on the one at Castle Gate even i would'nt risk going in there.

Originally posted by LoopyLou
Just how much in taxes do the govt get from smoking ?
£7 Billion

Originally posted by LoopyLou
How much does smoking related illness cost the NHS?
£1.5 Billion

These figures are taken from http://www.forestonline.org/output/page22.asp which I acknowledge isn't an impartial source. Note also that an estimated £2.9 Billion is lost to tobacco smugglers.

Wont it be nice to go to the pub and enjoy a nice meal without the smell of stale smoke hanging in the air.
As for smokers rights their rights end at my nostrils
:thumbsup:

Originally posted by royjames
Wont it be nice to go to the pub and enjoy a nice meal without the smell of stale smoke hanging in the air.


You will still have the smell of beer, BO, chip fat and microwaved curry hanging in the air though.

Originally posted by royjames
Wont it be nice to go to the pub and enjoy a nice meal without the smell of stale smoke hanging in the air.
As for smokers rights their rights end at my nostrils
:thumbsup:
Nice meal in Wetherspoons? Good luck.

as to loss of business Ireland proves that fear to be completely groundless.

Roy - I'm glad to agree wholeheartdly on this one with you.

Another "wonderful " place to enjoy a gourmet meal-----and who generally ban smoking-----is Macdonalds , with its stylish plastic everything , its dainty cutlery and fine china cups and of course its adventurous , varied menu-----and so democratic-----you all get 25 chips each.
Is it a co-incidence that the naff places were[are] the first to rush into the" no-smoking anywhere" ban ?

Originally posted by Fareast
Another "wonderful " place to enjoy a gourmet meal-----and who generally ban smoking-----is Macdonalds , with its stylish plastic everything , its dainty cutlery and fine china cups and of course its adventurous , varied menu-----and so democratic-----you all get 25 chips each.
Is it a co-incidence that the naff places were[are] the first to rush into the" no-smoking anywhere" ban ?

they aren't, maybe it's just that you frequent McDonalds more often than decent restaurants.

And just to change it slightly it will be great to work the doors and not to have to put up with the smoke.
Also I did not know that mcdonalds was going the same way,still pizza hut has so why not?
Give it a year and the smokers will have very few places to indulge their awful habit. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Fareast
Is it a co-incidence that the naff places were[are] the first to rush into the" no-smoking anywhere" ban ?
No coincidence at all. The worst "pubs" in the UK are the licenced creches with catering facilities where parents sit and watch their offspring in the ball pool whilst drinking low quality beer from plastic glasses and eating "two for a fiver" meals. These are the establishments that will embrace the smoking ban as it appeals to their customers.

The great news is that the real pubs will continue to server real beer to people who know how to have a good time. I know where I'll be! :thumbsup:

Vive la Difference!

What happens if a pub has serving times??

Say they serve food until 5pm, can people smoke in there, say- at night?

Great news about the smoking ban in weatherspoons - is it an 'all day' ban?
Banning smoking in pubs just at 'meal times' is just a half arsed attempt in my opinion. I only ever go into pubs after 9pm.

Originally posted by InvalidUser
No coincidence at all. The worst "pubs" in the UK are the licenced creches with catering facilities where parents sit and watch their offspring in the ball pool whilst drinking low quality beer from plastic glasses and eating "two for a fiver" meals. These are the establishments that will embrace the smoking ban as it appeals to their customers.

The great news is that the real pubs will continue to server real beer to people who know how to have a good time. I know where I'll be! :thumbsup:

Vive la Difference!

I don't have children, I don't drink weak beer and I dislike plastic glasses.
I'm young, have a large disposable income and thus am exactly the sort of customer most pubs would like to as there clientelle.

I hate the smell of smoke and will make a point of going to non smoking pubs when I have the option.

Where does that leave your patronising reasoning?

I understand it's an all day affair.

Originally posted by Cyclone
I don't have children, I don't drink weak beer and I dislike plastic glasses.
I'm young, have a large disposable income and thus am exactly the sort of customer most pubs would like to as there clientelle.



Well hang on- Im exacly the same as you yet i do smoke- whats the differance between us? (apart from the obvious smoking thing)

Look, I know a lot of people have this, my choice attitude. Well, I'd rather you didn't make MY clothes smell and I'd rather you didn't send ME to an early grave with your fumes.

There is no advantage to smoking, and I don't care what anyone says, the cons outweigh the pros.

I don't like Weatherspoons pubs, or any big chains. They make a night out bland, but I have to applaud them on this.

Originally posted by royjames
So the first witherspoons pub will be non smoking in just 3 wks time,I for one will certainly go their more often now.
And lets hope that more pubs will follow their lead shortly.

HERES TO CLEAN AIR AT LAST:thumbsup:

Here here! Lets hope this is the start of a trend to make pubs and clubs more pleasant places for us non-smokers.

Originally posted by NEKRO138
Look, I know a lot of people have this, my choice attitude. Well, I'd rather you didn't make MY clothes smell and I'd rather you didn't send ME to an early grave with your fumes.

There is no advantage to smoking, and I don't care what anyone says, the cons outweigh the pros.

I don't like Weatherspoons pubs, or any big chains. They make a night out bland, but I have to applaud them on this.
So given the choice of Weatherspoons with no smoking or the decent pub round the corner that allows smoking which are you going to go for?

I vote for the real pub. I don't smoke by the way.

Look, I know a lot of people have this, my choice attitude. Well, I'd rather you didn't make MY clothes smell and I'd rather you didn't send ME to an early grave with your fumes.
Sorry, but the simple answer to this is, don't go.
The counter argument is of course "why should I stay out of a pub just cos it's smokey, i have as much right to be there as a smoker?". Of course you do, but you don't have to be there. Neither does the smoker. You both choose to go there. There's been a thread on this before.
Why not take your money and choose somewhere non-smoking where you're not imposing your choices on others? Up till now the problem's been that there aren't a lot of non-smoking pubs. But how many of the non-smoking-impose-my-moral-choices-on-others lobbied the pubs before getting the lawmakers to force a change in? Not many I'll bet. My view is that a continual increase in freedom-restricting legislation ain't the mark of a civilised society.
edit: and yes, you'll find me (an ex (but still have the odd one when very drunk) smoker) round the corner enjoying a nice pint with invaliduser, exercising my right of choice as perhaps non-smokers should have been more forward in doing rather than eating up parliament's time with an issue easily solved in the market place.

As long as a pub has decent air conditioning I don't have a problem with people smoking.

They should ban smoking in restaurants definately, but part of a pub atmosphere is the smoking, people go to pubs to relax.

As I've said before, if there was a real demand for non-smoking pubs someone would have opened one by now, Wetherspoons are just getting in before the legislation and trying to score a bit of publicity, if smoking wasn't going to be banned I doubt they would be bothering.

Originally posted by NEKRO138
Look, I know a lot of people have this, my choice attitude. Well, I'd rather you didn't make MY clothes smell and I'd rather you didn't send ME to an early grave with your fumes.

Not just the fact that it makes your clothes stink either. I was with a mate in the pub last night, he kept waving his fag about, the smoke drifting toward my face.
I could actually taste the tar, on my lips, in my mouth:gag:

The three pubs around Hunters Bar have all recently introduced a 'no smoking at the bar' policy. Maybe it is a sign of things to come....

Its all very well introducing no smoking at the bar but this is a waste of time,since when does smoke stop at the bar?
As to the argument about demand ,why do you thing weatherspoons are bringing it in? They dont have to do this for a couple of yrs but they know from their customer surveys that the vast majority want a smoke free atmosphere.
Those who bleat about it now will in time get used to the idea and will be fine about it.

I can cope with it- but pubs arn't providing anywhere for the smokers to go, what about an undercover bit outside so if you NEED one- you can go for one if its raining!

Originally posted by royjames
Those who bleat about it now will in time get used to the idea and will be fine about it.
Nobody has to get used to anything. The proposed legislation still allows smoking in pubs that don't serve food. And remember that this is only proposed legislation, it took them 7 years to ban fox hunting. That means at least one more general election and probably two before this ever sees the statute books. You may not give much for the tories chances at this election but are you so sure about the next one?

Judging from the number of people who smoke in pubs I think there will be a large market for pubs where people can smoke. 25% of the adult population smoke and not all non-smokers are bothered by smoke, I'm one of them. There will be plenty of pubs to smoke in.

i cant wait i dont go to pubs at the mo as i like a drink a game of pool maybe sit in on a quiz but im a cronic asthmatic so i cant breath in pubs be nice to have a night out again where i dont have to go to the pics cos its the only night out you can have smoke free

Originally posted by babycakesuk
i cant wait i dont go to pubs at the mo as i like a drink a game of pool maybe sit in on a quiz but im a cronic asthmatic so i cant breath in pubs be nice to have a night out again where i dont have to go to the pics cos its the only night out you can have smoke free
Are there no non-smoking pubs in the city? Serious question, not being sarcastic.

Originally posted by InvalidUser
Are there no non-smoking pubs in the city? Serious question, not being sarcastic.

Despite the vast demand for them I don't think there are, there is one in Hillsborough which is apparantly always "packed".

Originally posted by InvalidUser
Are there no non-smoking pubs in the city? Serious question, not being sarcastic.
There are none.
Although I know of 2 pubs which have a no smoking room, The white Lion and the Fat Cat.
I have never been to the fat cat, the White Lion room is often the busiest room in the pub, at weekends you sometimes cannot get in.

The only pub I know that is smoke free is the phoenix.

Originally posted by InvalidUser
Judging from the number of people who smoke in pubs I think there will be a large market for pubs where people can smoke. 25% of the adult population smoke and not all non-smokers are bothered by smoke, I'm one of them. There will be plenty of pubs to smoke in.
I think I will rephrase your statement to 75% of adults do not smoke and this figure increases slowly yearly. Of the none smokers who do not mind, many of them probably don't make their real feelings felt. Like people who are with their boss. Or they are just too polite to say anything

Originally posted by muddycoffee
I think I will rephrase your statement to 75% of adults do not smoke and this figure increases slowly yearly. Of the none smokers who do not mind, many of them probably don't make their real feelings felt. Like people who are with their boss. Or they are just too polite to say anything
From your description I would consider those to be people who *do* mind. I only said that there are non-smokers who don't mind and I stick by that statement.

My point was that if a 25% of the population smokes how fair and equitable is legislation that proposes to ban smoking in 90% of pubs?

Originally posted by royjames
Its all very well introducing no smoking at the bar but this is a waste of time,since when does smoke stop at the bar?

Well yes, I agree - I just meant that hopefully it is a sign that those pubs are taking the issue seriously and are gearing up for a ban.
As someone who does tend to 'hug the bar' I find that it is certainly more comfortable without smokers there.
Like I said, though, I would like to see an all day ban:thumbsup:

Yes I agree with the idea of a all day ban,to the point about the smokers not having anywhere to go well you will know how us non smokers feel having had no choice for yrs.

Originally posted by muddycoffee
There are none.
Although I know of 2 pubs which have a no smoking room, The white Lion and the Fat Cat.
I have never been to the fat cat, the White Lion room is often the busiest room in the pub, at weekends you sometimes cannot get in.

Every-time I have been to the Fat Cat the non smoking room has always been the busiest.

I do think people will get used to the idea of not smoking in some pubs. What they will have to do is put sensitive smoke detectors in the toilets….no doubt people will try and sneak a quick fag in there.

The place I am based at now only allowed smoking in the coffee bar/meal area. Now it is band throughout the building. Anyone who wants to smoke goes outside. There has been some good knock-on affects from the smoking ban. Health and Safety has improved, and certain people are spending more time at their work than before the smoking ban.

Originally posted by nick2
You will still have the smell of beer, BO, chip fat and microwaved curry hanging in the air though.

None of that effect my health or my kids asthma

I agree with the point made about no smokign at the bar, it still drifts from where people are sat to the bar.

Also places that have a no smoking area still ussualy suffers from smoke in the smoking area drifting over or to get to the bar or loo you have to walk through the smoking area.

Hallam FM Arena is a good example. No smoking in the arena part itself but in the outer ring (the bot where you come in) you can smoke, so during the interval every smoker rushes out and sparks up, so if you want a drink/food, the loo or to by merchandise you have to walk trough a choking smoke screen to get there. Not only does this make me smell like an ashtray, I can't breath (and I don't have any breathing problems normally) but the smoke is so thick my eyes sting.

The other problem I have with smokers iss with the ones who can't or won't play by the rules. Was in the bus station and a guy lit up my 3 year daughter started coughing becuase of his smoke, so I asked him to put it out and pinted out the no smoking poster 4 foot from him, he just blanked me so as a security guard passed I told him and he made him put it out. When we got on the bus which was a little nipper type bus he gave me a mouthful full of obsenities. I was so close to lamping him one as my daughter did not need or derserved to hear the language coming from him. The bus driver had to give him a choice shut up or get off, he stayed on the bus muttering to himself that I was infringing his rights.

It was a ban on private property that he didn't think appiled to him as it was discrimination...

A lot (note not all) smokers have this type of attitude.

Yes a lot of smokers are very selfish and dont give a dam who they upset as long as they get their fix.
If anyone lights a fag up near me they get told about it real quick.

Originally posted by jubby
A lot (note not all) smokers have this type of attitude.

Everyone is aware of the health and safety issues surrounding smoking. Some choose to ignore them. But yes, you are right Jubby, there is a trend now where more and more smokers are becoming more considerate to others.

Great that they are banning smoking.

Great that they have cheap beer.

Not so great that I would rather stop drinking than spend time in that dreadful pub

Sorry but to me it has no atmosphere what so ever :(

Originally posted by royjames
Yes a lot of smokers are very selfish and dont give a dam who they upset as long as they get their fix.
If anyone lights a fag up near me they get told about it real quick.

I honestly think the tide is turning now Roy. The smokers have been in the minority for some years now. More and more people are getting wise and either stopping or never starting in the first place. Now, couple that with the huge amount of smokers (and sadly some non smokers) in this country that die prematurely for smoking related diseases. The tobacco manufactures have a big problem, where do they find replacements too keep their profits up???

No small wonder then is it that they need to exploit growing economies like China and third world countries who have little or no legislation on smoking.

Hanrahans near Aunt Sally's has been non-smoking for a while now. Seems to be doing really well from it too.

Originally posted by Fudbeer
Great that they are banning smoking.

Great that they have cheap beer.

Not so great that I would rather stop drinking than spend time in that dreadful pub

Sorry but to me it has no atmosphere what so ever :(
Very interesting post from Fubeer. A pub is what you make it. Now, if you want a pub with atmosphere come to my local……when it reopens…..The Springwood…..:thumbsup:

Counting down the days till the first wetherspoons pub goes non smoking,not long now.:thumbsup:

its great, I'll never have to go in that dive again:clap:

Could one of the mods do a vote on the Forum to see who agrees with a ban in pubs in sheffield.The pubs could use this information to gauge opinion and decide what to do

Originally posted by espadrille
Could one of the mods do a vote on the Forum to see who agrees with a ban in pubs in sheffield.The pubs could use this information to gauge opinion and decide what to do

There's one here about smoking in public places:

Poll by a moderator (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8838)

Why should pubs be exempt from any ban on smoking?

Well spotted Max! This was the original question posed in the poll...

Originally posted by Tony
A new BBC poll (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3561483.stm) has found that 73% of people want a ban on smoking in all public places. Do you agree?

And amazingly, at the time of writing this, 71.43% of SF respondents are in favour of a ban!

Mod PS.. Just a note for everyone, please use the other thread for discussion on a ban in public places, this thread is just about the Weatherspoons ban. :thumbsup: