Just tried to find a parking place in Sheffield City Centre and the only one we could find was parking for 1 hour no return in 2 hours. My daugther went for a appointment at the clinic on mulberry street and that was ten minutes walk from the parking place to the clinic, so only left 40 minutes for the appointment. I had to leave my wife and daughter to go to the car and find somewhere else to park or get a ticket.

Before someone says use public transport, this is my intenery for this morning.

Leaving Gleadless Valley to go the Manor clinic for appointment at 9:30. Then to Mulberry Street clinic for appointment at 11:00; appointment didn't finish at manor clinic until 10:30. Then she has Nursery on Bernard Road at 13:00 plus getting lunch inbetween 11:00 appointment that finished at 12:15.

If anyone can tell me how to do this for two adults and a three year old on public transport please advise.....

What does everyone else think about the parking in Sheffield?

Jubby

Totally agree with you. Parking is shocking. Then the numpties at the Council wonder why people no longer want to use the City Centre. A couple of years ago, shops were closing things looking totally bleak for businesses so the council the introduced lots of new and nice things like "The Winter Gardens" - soon to be overlooked by a new and wonderful (!) hotel to bring back business. The only problem is, every year, they make it harder and harder to drive into the city centre and to park there too.

It must be great to be chauffered around all the time like our Lord Mayor and not have to worry about parking to get to work or to an appointment at the Mulberry!!!

I used to work in the town centre and always used the bus could never even think of using the car as no where to park for a fair price.

The problem was sometimes I finished after the buses or when the last bus was so if this was missing for whatever reason I had to pay £6 for a taxi to get home.

The problem of today was the amount of places we had to go in the time span, but these appointments are inportant for my daughter so can't be rearranged.

Parking is indeed a bit hard in the city centre, but knowing this, would it not be more sensible to not make appointments that are going to be difficult to meet?

How would people propose accomodating the amount of cars there would be if everyone travelled around the city centre by car and needed parking provision.

The City centre would basically be a car park and the roads would be gridlocked.

Yes, cars are a very big part of our lives but the answer is not to be in total thrall to them and turn over our entire country to them.

We didn't intentionaly make the appointments for that time or even the same day. We get referred and then they get sent out for which ever day is available. Do you really think we wanted to make my daughter who is 3 rush around like this today.

These appointments are needed as i've already said, they are for two different things at two different clinics. Even if we only had the one in town, we could only park for 1 hour.

Jubby

Is it really a parking issue?
Maybe the appointments were a bit tight.

You could have driven to Manor Top and left the car there.
A tram would have got you from Manor Top to Castle Square in about 20 minutes.
If you didn't want to walk to Bernard Road, a tram would have taken you over to Cricket Inn Road.

Depending on whether or not you had to pay for parking at Bernard Road, driving would probably be cheaper though!

Originally posted by Yodameister
How would people propose accomodating the amount of cars there would be if everyone travelled around the city centre by car and needed parking provision.

The City centre would basically be a car park and the roads would be gridlocked.

Yes, cars are a very big part of our lives but the answer is not to be in total thrall to them and turn over our entire country to them.

How do you propose I could have done today differently then?

It was an unfortunate timetable, but I don't think the parking restrictions are soley to blame. Could taxis have been used for some of the journeys? Were attempts made to reschedule any appointments?
The parking is a nightmare and there's no easy solution. Increasing the parking available will bring cries of "but the money should have been spent on public transport" and spending the money on public transport has the opposite effect.
I think the balance is about right. I don't take the car into town unless I really feel I need to as it's a) hard to find a space for a long enough amount of time b) too expensive c) cheaper/easier/quicker to bus/tram/walk/cycle. On Saturdays I really do pity all those stressed lazy people sat in their cars queuing to get into John Lewis's car part because they simly must park as close as possible to the centre.

Originally posted by cgksheff
Is it really a parking issue?
Maybe the appointments were a bit tight.

You could have driven to Manor Top and left the car there.
A tram would have got you from Manor Top to Castle Square in about 20 minutes.
If you didn't want to walk to Bernard Road, a tram would have taken you over to Cricket Inn Road.

Depending on whether or not you had to pay for parking at Bernard Road, driving would probably be cheaper though!

We are unable to leave the car at the clinic if not using it.

Forgot to mention I start work at 1330 at nunnery sqaure, so would prefer to leave car there where it is monitored by cameras and security guards. Not saying manor not safe we do have the occassional theft from cars but they are caught on camera and every theft has lead to a conviction.

What I would have to do would pick daughter up at 18:00 and then collect car from manor.

Originally posted by jubby
How do you propose I could have done today differently then?

I was replying to the part of your post asking for opinions on the parking in Sheffield, not on your particular itinerary.

What was up the NCP off Bank Street (I think?).

I once recall trying to drive to Sound Control on Paternoster Row. Approaching from Arundel Gate, I thought, wrongly as it happened, that I could either park on Paternoster Row itself, or turn up a lane into one of the pay and display car parks. What fun I had when I realised I could do neither.

A simple answer would be to go round the (now removed) roundabout (Suffolk Street, Sheaf Street, Howard Street) but not on your nelly: the council ensured I couldn't do that by making it a no-right turn and thus forcing me onto Sheaf Street.

How to get back to Sound Control? Why, with green issues and the environment in mind, the council prefer it if I drive all the way to Sheaf Square and up Commercial Street and back onto Arundel Gate.

Fortunately I had a better plan and raised two fingers to the aforementioned no-right turn sign and came back up Paternoster Road. But I wonder, does the council ever take into mind the fact that it's possible to miss your turning? How many potential visitors to the city centre have done what I did and thought: sod it, I'm not bothering?

Meanwhile, Meadowhall goes from strenth to strenth whilst the plonkers at the town hall carry on plotting ways of stressing us out of our vehicles. (NB. It won't work.)

I was dismayed to see that the land where the markets were demolished near park square is to become offices. Surely this was the best site in the whole city for a multistorey?

It's one thing to expect sheffielders to find parking within a sprawling city they are familiar with, but visitors to the city are on a hiding to nothing.

I have been one. I know many.
None of them reccommend Sheffield to anybody :mad:

If we were able to give directions as 'down the parkway, turn right, park up...' it would be so much more attractive to visitors :thumbsup:

I love to see threads perpetuating the myth about poor parking in Sheffield. It means that when I go there are always plenty of parking spaces both on and off road. Plus, when there's more than one in the car it's cheaper than public transport.

My advice: stay away and leave the spaces for me. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by jubby

What does everyone else think about the parking in Sheffield?


It's never caused me any problems.

I think that's a fair sentiment. It's a city centre, it's not going to be empty and I'm always prepared to drive around a bit on the (rare) occasion I take the Blue Bullet in.

Originally posted by hotphil
It was an unfortunate timetable, but I don't think the parking restrictions are soley to blame. Could taxis have been used for some of the journeys? Were attempts made to reschedule any appointments?
The parking is a nightmare and there's no easy solution. Increasing the parking available will bring cries of "but the money should have been spent on public transport" and spending the money on public transport has the opposite effect.
I think the balance is about right. I don't take the car into town unless I really feel I need to as it's a) hard to find a space for a long enough amount of time b) too expensive c) cheaper/easier/quicker to bus/tram/walk/cycle. On Saturdays I really do pity all those stressed lazy people sat in their cars queuing to get into John Lewis's car part because they simly must park as close as possible to the centre.

A taxi would have cost at least £30+ so not viable, I'm not rich.

We have waited 15 months for the speech threapy appoinment at manor and 8 months for the developmental clinic, if we cancel the wait months for another appointment, both these appoinrments are esential for the development of my daughter. Attempts were made to rescedule answer was next appointment in 3 or 4 months as they only had two available after that it would be 6 months. My wife has a is 38 pregnant with a groin strain so walking is out of the question. Becuase of the groin strain she can't drive I'm a learner so need her in the car thats why its two adults not one. We would have loved to be nearer but some of the parking near the clinic in town are blocked off with building work or something.

The issue here is not the amount of parking but the length of stay, just one hour. If it was for shopping would have gone to meadowhall, but had no choice but to go to town. We are not lazy just not viable to do today on public transport.

Originally posted by Fearful
What was up the NCP off Bank Street (I think?). Stairs - see later post about wives groin strain, have you tried walking up the stairs and the parking ramp with a groin strain?

Originally posted by Ousetunes
I once recall trying to drive to Sound Control on Paternoster Row. Approaching from Arundel Gate, I thought, wrongly as it happened, that I could either park on Paternoster Row itself, or turn up a lane into one of the pay and display car parks. What fun I had when I realised I could do neither.

A simple answer would be to go round the (now removed) roundabout (Suffolk Street, Sheaf Street, Howard Street) but not on your nelly: the council ensured I couldn't do that by making it a no-right turn and thus forcing me onto Sheaf Street.

How to get back to Sound Control? Why, with green issues and the environment in mind, the council prefer it if I drive all the way to Sheaf Square and up Commercial Street and back onto Arundel Gate.

Fortunately I had a better plan and raised two fingers to the aforementioned no-right turn sign and came back up Paternoster Road. But I wonder, does the council ever take into mind the fact that it's possible to miss your turning? How many potential visitors to the city centre have done what I did and thought: sod it, I'm not bothering?

Meanwhile, Meadowhall goes from strenth to strenth whilst the plonkers at the town hall carry on plotting ways of stressing us out of our vehicles. (NB. It won't work.)

You should try driving round Leeds

Originally posted by max
I love to see threads perpetuating the myth about poor parking in Sheffield. It means that when I go there are always plenty of parking spaces both on and off road. Plus, when there's more than one in the car it's cheaper than public transport.

My advice: stay away and leave the spaces for me. :thumbsup:

Today wasn't a myth I was there.

The parking spot we found btw was the one near top of the moor where Starstore used to be where the SYPTE info office is.

Ah. Fair do's a bit of a bad day and not really possible to rearrange appointments etc.
If I'd known about it I perhaps could have helped. There's a lot of (seemingly) good people (and some weirdos :D ) around - if you have a similar problem again, it may be worth seeing if someone here can help out. If you trust them that is!

You have my sympathy. Not much use.... but you have it!

Originally posted by hotphil
I think that's a fair sentiment. It's a city centre, it's not going to be empty and I'm always prepared to drive around a bit on the (rare) occasion I take the Blue Bullet in.

We had to drive around and this was the nearst we found and like I've repeatly said its not the amount of spaces its the silly 1 hour time limit....

Originally posted by hotphil
Ah. Fair do's a bit of a bad day and not really possible to rearrange appointments etc.
If I'd known about it I perhaps could have helped. There's a lot of (seemingly) good people (and some weirdos :D ) around - if you have a similar problem again, it may be worth seeing if someone here can help out. If you trust them that is!

Thanks for the offer Phil but in what way do mean help as in lifts?? Explain plz

Originally posted by cgksheff
You have my sympathy. Not much use.... but you have it!

Thank you I take it glady lol:hihi:

Why is everyone trying to resolve the problem jubby had with too many commitments and not enough time to park a car inbetween them, have lunch and get to work, etc., etc.? Every time someone posts what might have been a solution to the problem, jubby returns with more information - which makes it impossible to find a satisfactory solution! (indeed, jubby also took to posting three and then four consecutive messages).

As it is unlikely that that such a set of circumstances will occur again, the problem has now passed, and doesn't need resolving!

no jubby......please don't explain why you originated this post - you've done that once already! You were unfortunate. You could have taken sandwiches and soup for lunch - oh no, no :nono: :nono: what am I doing? Help! Help me somebody - now even I'm getting sucked into this boring nonsense!

I will let you all in on a car parking area in the city centre where you dont have to pay you just drive in and park its in the town centre but can fit around 60 cars


THE OLD OFFICE WORLD NEAR THE MOOR BUT BE EARLY

I drive into town, park in B&Q on Queens Road or one of the side streets,then pay 50p on the 53 bus for a very short trip into town.

Or use Ponds Forge(when no events on) get the ticket stamped then i have 3 hours at £1.30.(you have to be a member)

Originally posted by redrobbo
Why is everyone trying to resolve the problem jubby had with too many commitments and not enough time to park a car inbetween them, have lunch and get to work, etc., etc.? Every time someone posts what might have been a solution to the problem, jubby returns with more information - which makes it impossible to find a satisfactory solution! (indeed, jubby also took to posting three and then four consecutive messages).

As it is unlikely that that such a set of circumstances will occur again, the problem has now passed, and doesn't need resolving!

no jubby......please don't explain why you originated this post - you've done that once already! You were unfortunate. You could have taken sandwiches and soup for lunch - oh no, no :nono: :nono: what am I doing? Help! Help me somebody - now even I'm getting sucked into this boring nonsense!

I replied to three or four posts not my fault I worked in between so came home to these replies I am glad someone posted them. They offered suggestions which were good points just explaining why they weren't available to me.

Can you point out where in the forum rules it says "do not reply to more than one post in a row, please wait a bit so that your replies are not consetitive"?

The main part of my post still remains that I couldn't park for long enough in town without being miles away from the place.

As I said in my original post the parking restriction of 1 hour left only 40 minutes for the appointment as it took 10 mins to walk there and 10 mins to walk back, even if this was the only appointment I will still have this problem.

Now I admit if I only had this one appointment I could have took the bus...the only problem with this is if its an appointment for one of my older two boys - sorry this is additional information - they are suffer from Autism and do not do public transport well so car only option. They both have a blue badge so parking not a problem normally. We do have a problem that the oldest is still awaiting his badge after a renewal so while we wait would have to park as normal so this problem of 1 hour would be there and unavoidable.

Any suugestions there redrobbo.

Originally posted by jubby
Can you point out where in the forum rules it says "do not reply to more than one post in a row, please wait a bit so that your replies are not consetitive"?
Well seeing as how you asked....

You're supposed to roll them all into one post, using multiple quotes. It's not easy, but it's been discussed on here recently.

It also helps if you prune out bits from the quotes that you aren't replying to (as I have done with yours)

I'm now going to go away and look for the site blurb on this, and will use the 'edit' button at the bottom of my post to add the info in :thumbsup:


Edit: I've looked here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1404) but cannot see any info. :confused: I got an e-mail from a Mod though when I was a newbie telling me off for doing the same thing though :help:

While I can sympathise that you had a lot to do on that day and a have a lot of requirments I can't see how this is a problem with parking in Sheffield itself.

It's a city, land in the centre of it is expensive and can't be used for huge open spaces to filled with cars. :confused:

Could you do this in Nottingham, Manchester or Leeds?

Originally posted by Strix
Well seeing as how you asked....

You're supposed to roll them all into one post, using multiple quotes. It's not easy, but it's been discussed on here recently.



Thankss for that but I find it easier to reply to each one it's how my Aspie brain works.

I don't see any problem with doing it either way but I follow it better when people reply to one post at a time.

I also find it hard to follow emails when people put the replies within your original email.

Aspie = Asperger Syndrome

Originally posted by Fearful
While I can sympathise that you had a lot to do on that day and a have a lot of requirments I can't see how this is a problem with parking in Sheffield itself.

It's a city, land in the centre of it is expensive and can't be used for huge open spaces to filled with cars. :confused:

Could you do this in Nottingham, Manchester or Leeds?

You used to be able to park for longer than an hour.

Its a large space hard to do things in 1 hour.

Like I said earlier don't have a problem with the amount of spaces or even the cost, its the silly short time restriction.

Originally posted by jubby

As I said in my original post the parking restriction of 1 hour left only 40 minutes for the appointment as it took 10 mins to walk there and 10 mins to walk back, even if this was the only appointment I will still have this problem.

Now I admit if I only had this one appointment I could have took the bus...the only problem with this is if its an appointment for one of my older two boys - sorry this is additional information - they are suffer from Autism and do not do public transport well so car only option. They both have a blue badge so parking not a problem normally. We do have a problem that the oldest is still awaiting his badge after a renewal so while we wait would have to park as normal so this problem of 1 hour would be there and unavoidable.

Any suugestions there redrobbo.

Yes....as I said in my first post......

"please don't explain why you originated this post - you've done that once already".

But you ignored my request and started explaining the problem you had all over again!

So, as the problem has gone away......I suggest that you stop moaning, stop endlessly explaining what happened, and just give it a rest!

PS There are no forum rules on consecutive posts. I never claimed there was. Tip: It just gets boring for the readers.

Originally posted by redrobbo


So, as the problem has gone away......I suggest that you stop moaning, stop endlessly explaining what happened, and just give it a rest!



Has the problem gone away.

I didn't relise sheffield forum had that much pull with council.

So ypu saying 1 hour parking has gone and been replaced with longer times?

jubby - please don't deliberately misunderstand me. You asked in an earlier post -

Originally posted by jubby
How do you propose I could have done today differently then?

My point is simple. It is your problem that has gone away. Therefore there is no need to endlessly debate how you could have managed your day differently. It is a meaningless and sterile discussion. You managed somehow, and you survived.

Now, can I suggest that you get on with the rest of your life.

Originally posted by redrobbo
jubby - please don't deliberately misunderstand me. You asked in an earlier post -



My point is simple. It is your problem that has gone away. Therefore there is no need to endlessly debate how you could have managed your day differently. It is a meaningless and sterile discussion. You managed somehow, and you survived.

Now, can I suggest that you get on with the rest of your life.

The problem has not gone away that was what my last reply was referring too. The problem with 1 hour parking is still there and as i mentioned if it had been my oldest child who normally it wouldn't have caused a problem as he normally has a blue badge, it would have been if this appointment was for him as he is currently waiting for a new badge. That is a different moan, as he needs a badge but has to wait 4 weeks for a re-application to go through so have to abide by the parking restriction of one hour, no where near enough time for him. At the moment he was virtually house bound during his easter break as we couldn't park for long enough for him to go to places he wanted as the parking meant that we would have about 5 minutes once we walked there, which he does very slowly.

Also I have a life, I have 4 (soon 5) kids and a lovely wife. The reason I hadn't posted yesterday was I was at church then we went to the park for the rest of the afternoon, instead of being stuck in front of the computer....

when we go to town we always park in that car park on the wicker, its a left turn just under the wicker arches i think, cant remeber what its called though. You can stay for as long as you want u just gotta pay accordingly, its 65p for an hour, £1.20 for two and i cant remeber the others. its usually pretty quiet in there even on a saturday. Theres a cut through at the end of the car park that pops u out at the Bristol hotel and a 2 min walk and u pop out next to the markets and shoe zone/wilkinsons.

not sure if thats newhere near where you were jubby, but its where we always park, after getting a ticket parking on one of them hour only streets!

Originally posted by jubby
The problem has not gone away that was what my last reply was referring too. The problem with 1 hour parking is still there and as i mentioned if it had been my oldest child who normally it wouldn't have caused a problem as he normally has a blue badge, it would have been if this appointment was for him as he is currently waiting for a new badge. That is a different moan, as he needs a badge but has to wait 4 weeks for a re-application to go through so have to abide by the parking restriction of one hour, no where near enough time for him. At the moment he was virtually house bound during his easter break as we couldn't park for long enough for him to go to places he wanted as the parking meant that we would have about 5 minutes once we walked there, which he does very slowly.



jubby - you are simply hilarious! Now you are inventing problems that don't exist - "if it had been my oldest child...." .

I think your observation "That is a different moan" actually sums up your problem.

You are not asking for advice on how to manage a potential problem over parking. You're asking for advice on how you could have managed your day differently! It really is a nonsensical question though, as it doesn't matter anymore - the day has gone, and your problem has disappeared with it.

Your problem has nothing to do with 1 hour parking restrictions. It has everything to do with you though. Every time someone posts a suggestion on how you could have managed your day differently, you add a whole new set of problems and difficulties.

I suggest you read Eric Berne's books on transactional analysis. Look up a chapter about acting the victim. Recognise anyone?

two post were made - the first one (this one) said I couldn't post it then it is here

Originally posted by redrobbo
jubby - you are simply hilarious! Now you are inventing problems that don't exist - "if it had been my oldest child...." .

I think your observation "That is a different moan" actually sums up your problem.

You are not asking for advice on how to manage a potential problem over parking. You're asking for advice on how you could have managed your day differently! It really is a nonsensical question though, as it doesn't matter anymore - the day has gone, and your problem has disappeared with it.

Your problem has nothing to do with 1 hour parking restrictions. It has everything to do with you though. Every time someone posts a suggestion on how you could have managed your day differently, you add a whole new set of problems and difficulties.

I suggest you read Eric Berne's books on transactional analysis. Look up a chapter about acting the victim. Recognise anyone?
You are failing to recognise that my thread was complaining about the parking restriction - hence the title Parking in Sheffield City Centre. My problem had everything to do with the 1 hour parking restriction. I believe I said in other posts that even if my day had been different the parking would have till caused a problem.

We have to register a new born baby (not sure when haven't phoned for the appointment) the place we need to go is the Town Hall, and the 1 hour parking could still be a problem, if this is the nearest place we can park. The bus may be an option it will depend on how many kids we take.

You seem to think that becuase the day has now gone the problem has gone away, but the restriction still remains to cuase problems to me and other people another day.

The 1 hour parking restriction will and does cause problems for lots of people. I was mentioning my son as an example of the car being a neccisiety not a luxery so it that case there is no way round the PROBLEM of the parking length being so short. There are people who can't get a blue badge due to the disabilty being tempoary but a bus would not being feasible.

I am not acting the victim I am presenting sceneariols where the parking causes problems as an example to how silly the 1 hour restriction is. You seem to think it is not a problem. Is this becuase you are able bodied with no problems and the bus comes for you when you want it and stops where you want it, or have unblimited funds for taxis to take you from A-B.

I will let you know if you can register a baby within 1 hour including getting to and from the car (the place is not as far away from the parking space concerned), it may be possible.

The different moan was referring to the council leaving my son without the parking permit he NEEDS for so long, which has now been lengthed as it has been "lost in the post".

Close to the Town Hall (and Mulberry Street) is the NCP car park on Arundel Gate. There is unlimited parking, paying by the hour. As you said previously, the cost is not an issue but time. There are also numerous car parks where the limit is over one hour - back of the Moor behind Argos; top of Charles Street and behind the old National Centre for Popular Music; Eyre Street to name a few. All are City Council owned car parks that allow longer stays. I have also just looked up on the City Council web site under parking. Details of all car parks, including private ones, are listed. The Council short stay car parks tend to be for a maximum of six hours stay and are dotted across the city centre.Overall, I don't have a problem with parking and usually find an off street, surface car park space anywhere with out any major problem.

Originally posted by bglodge
Close to the Town Hall (and Mulberry Street) is the NCP car park on Arundel Gate. There is unlimited parking, paying by the hour. As you said previously, the cost is not an issue but time. There are also numerous car parks where the limit is over one hour - back of the Moor behind Argos; top of Charles Street and behind the old National Centre for Popular Music; Eyre Street to name a few. All are City Council owned car parks that allow longer stays. I have also just looked up on the City Council web site under parking. Details of all car parks, including private ones, are listed. The Council short stay car parks tend to be for a maximum of six hours stay and are dotted across the city centre.Overall, I don't have a problem with parking and usually find an off street, surface car park space anywhere with out any major problem.

Thank you for your suggestions, we will try them except the NCP as I don't do well with multistories (still learning, wife can't drive with her groin strain).

I will let you know how I get on with the car parks. I'm not sure if someone has mentioned this (maybe be a different threard) but the one way system makes finding a space difficult.

The other problem with parking I have is the idiots who park to close (or the spaces not being big enough) even when we have stickers on both sides of the car and the rear saying there is a disabled person on board. They even know its a kid as on one side there is a sticker saying "disabled kid with attitude".

Jubby,

You don't need to take any kids with you in order to register a birth.

Doesn't this open up the realm of public transport to you? :)

Back to parking...

This morning I paid £4.00 into the pay and display at Fitzwilliam street car park and no ticket came out.

I phoned the number on the side (Queue behind me was growing), and the lady on the other end just said: "Oh don't worry, just put a note on your windcreen that the machine is bust". Which I and everybody else did.

But I paid whilst the others waiting behind me got away with free parking. Life ain't fair!

so we leave a kid that is breast feeding at home???

Before you suggest one of us go this is a landmark in my child's life, I missed my last son becuase of a new job and regret it. The appointment may also mean we don't have the kids at nursery as my daughter only goes in the afternoon and my next youngest son only on monday afternoons.

My wife can not cope at the moment with all the kids so couldn't leave them with her, while I went. Also I do not have the capacity to breast feed and my wife is not producing enough to express yet.

BTW if we were not married the father would have to attend, where would the kids be then.

Originally posted by Deavon
Back to parking...

This morning I paid £4.00 into the pay and display at Fitzwilliam street car park and no ticket came out.

I phoned the number on the side (Queue behind me was growing), and the lady on the other end just said: "Oh don't worry, just put a note on your windcreen that the machine is bust". Which I and everybody else did.

But I paid whilst the others waiting behind me got away with free parking. Life ain't fair!

This could have still left you with a parking ticket to have to contest, at least you reported it. Did they take your details, or did you take theirs just in case??

Originally posted by jubby
You are failing to recognise that my thread was complaining about the parking restriction - hence the title Parking in Sheffield City Centre. My problem had everything to do with the 1 hour parking restriction...
I am led to believe the 1 hour restriction is there to ensure a steady stream of vacant plots, for short term visits.

In this respect it seems to work as intended.

If these same spots were long term parking, they would, more than likely, be filled all the time with office workers, or at least, they wouldn't come vacant as often.

Under these circumstances you wouldn't get parked anyway.

As has been said above, there are plenty of other long/medium term car parks around the city, both council and private, just use one of these when required.

Originally posted by foo_fighter
I am led to believe the 1 hour restriction is there to ensure a steady stream of vacant plots, for short term visits.

In this respect it seems to work as intended.

If these same spots were long term parking, they would, more than likely, be filled all the time with office workers, or at least, they wouldn't come vacant as often.

Under these circumstances you wouldn't get parked anyway.

As has been said above, there are plenty of other long/medium term car parks around the city, both council and private, just use one of these when required.

As said in a previous post today I will try them. The pther just had the extra problem of the short time scale from appointments.

Oh, I didn't take the ladies name or anything.

Oops! I hope I don't get a ticket. Not finishing work until late so I might have to nip out and check.

A Parking Adventure at John Lewis...

I have to say I can usually find a space to park if I try, though it may mean a bit of a walk to get where I want to be. Unfortunately, at 9 months pregnant, with low blood pressure, that's not a fun proposition...so the last couple of times I went, I decided to park in Coles (sorry, John Lewis') car park, totally central to where I wanted to be. OMG! Thankfully I have a sense of humour...

I chose a nice 'big' space - quite a joke...what size cars were those spaces made for? minis only! So when I opened the door I realised I wasn't going to get my huge stomach out of the car at all, there just wasn't room. I tried that twice. Then I went looking for the parent and baby spaces, reckoning I qualify seeing as the little darling very much exists and takes up about as much space as a pram, lol. I had started out giggling about being trapped in the car, but my sense of humour started to fade when I realised there were only about 5 (okay, maybe 10)parent baby spaces in the whole place, all taken. And while I wouldn't dream of using the disabled spaces, I couldn't help but notice that there were very few of them as well. In the end I found a space next to a wall, and parked with the drivers door to it, taking up only as much space as I needed to literally squeeze my tummy out of the car - which meant I took up more than my one space. I actually bothered to feel guilty about it till the woman in the car next to me parked up, taking advantage of that extra space to get her toddler and pram out of the car, because of course, the parent baby spaces were taken. Had either of us only been able to find a central space, we would easily have been trapped out of our cars by someone parking next to us.

Next time I went I took my husband so he could let me out of the car and park up, using just the one space. When we got back, he had to climb in through the boot because the cars parked next to us were each less than six inches away!

For a company that has so many customers fond of 4x4s and big cars (not us) why on earth do JL make life so hard, parking-wise? For money, I know...but at the very least they could up their quota of disabled and parent and baby spaces...or even have a special section for 4x4s.

Shame on you, JL, and consider yourselves lucky I didn't get stuck, and was too tired to bother making a complaint. I'm just glad I tried to park up between other cars and realised the problem before I found a nice clear space and ended up getting stuck there.

Originally posted by jubby
I'm not sure if someone has mentioned this (maybe be a different threard) but the one way system makes finding a space difficult.

The other problem with parking I have is the idiots who park to close (or the spaces not being big enough) even when we have stickers on both sides of the car and the rear saying there is a disabled person on board. They even know its a kid as on one side there is a sticker saying "disabled kid with attitude".

Having been pointed in the direction of where you can park in excess of 1 hour, you now start to complain about the alleged difficulties of the 1-way system, followed by a moan about cars parking too close to your vehicle, spaces not being wide enough, etc. Let's face it, you are never going to be satisfied are you jubby? It's just one long moan, inventing problems where problems don't exist, and now you're even predicting a whole new set of problems to come when considering off-street parking.

As I said in my earlier post to you jubby, does the word 'victim' come to mind?

Oh....and just a small plea.....please don't keep us updated on the sequals.....
Parking Saga Part 2: Difficulties Encountering 1-way systems
Parking Saga Part 3: The Problem with Multi-Story parking bays
Parking Saga Part 4: The Lost Parking Ticket

.....I think we can predict the content.

Originally posted by jubby
I will let you know if you can register a baby within 1 hour including getting to and from the car (the place is not as far away from the parking space concerned), it may be possible.



it took us 20 mins to register our lil girl when she was born 19months ago, it was at the old registry office though, dont know if it'll take longer there? shudnt think so.

Originally posted by cosywolf
A Parking Adventure at John Lewis...

I have to say I can usually find a space to park if I try, though it may mean a bit of a walk to get where I want to be. Unfortunately, at 9 months pregnant, with low blood pressure, that's not a fun proposition...so the last couple of times I went, I decided to park in Coles (sorry, John Lewis') car park, totally central to where I wanted to be. OMG! Thankfully I have a sense of humour...

I chose a nice 'big' space - quite a joke...what size cars were those spaces made for? minis only! So when I opened the door I realised I wasn't going to get my huge stomach out of the car at all, there just wasn't room. I tried that twice. Then I went looking for the parent and baby spaces, reckoning I qualify seeing as the little darling very much exists and takes up about as much space as a pram, lol. I had started out giggling about being trapped in the car, but my sense of humour started to fade when I realised there were only about 5 (okay, maybe 10)parent baby spaces in the whole place, all taken. And while I wouldn't dream of using the disabled spaces, I couldn't help but notice that there were very few of them as well. In the end I found a space next to a wall, and parked with the drivers door to it, taking up only as much space as I needed to literally squeeze my tummy out of the car - which meant I took up more than my one space. I actually bothered to feel guilty about it till the woman in the car next to me parked up, taking advantage of that extra space to get her toddler and pram out of the car, because of course, the parent baby spaces were taken. Had either of us only been able to find a central space, we would easily have been trapped out of our cars by someone parking next to us.

Next time I went I took my husband so he could let me out of the car and park up, using just the one space. When we got back, he had to climb in through the boot because the cars parked next to us were each less than six inches away!

For a company that has so many customers fond of 4x4s and big cars (not us) why on earth do JL make life so hard, parking-wise? For money, I know...but at the very least they could up their quota of disabled and parent and baby spaces...or even have a special section for 4x4s.

Shame on you, JL, and consider yourselves lucky I didn't get stuck, and was too tired to bother making a complaint. I'm just glad I tried to park up between other cars and realised the problem before I found a nice clear space and ended up getting stuck there.

This is one of the reasons I don't like car parks but sometimes have to use them (Retail parks, supermarket, etc.) Even though my knee is bad eniugh to class a disablilty just a mobility problem, I have to open my door fully to get out pain free, not always possibly. This is why I prefer on street parking where I can get it.

My wife says did you take photo's of the boot climbing? With just giving birth to #5 she knows how you feel. Good luck with the little 'Un

Originally posted by redrobbo
Having been pointed in the direction of where you can park in excess of 1 hour, you now start to complain about the alleged difficulties of the 1-way system, followed by a moan about cars parking too close to your vehicle, spaces not being wide enough, etc. Let's face it, you are never going to be satisfied are you jubby? It's just one long moan, inventing problems where problems don't exist, and now you're even predicting a whole new set of problems to come when considering off-street parking.

As I said in my earlier post to you jubby, does the word 'victim' come to mind?

Oh....and just a small plea.....please don't keep us updated on the sequals.....
Parking Saga Part 2: Difficulties Encountering 1-way systems
Parking Saga Part 3: The Problem with Multi-Story parking bays
Parking Saga Part 4: The Lost Parking Ticket

.....I think we can predict the content.
I didn't say the one-way system was a problem for me, just makes it more difficult. Example parking near to Coles/Howden house. You go up near Coles/Starstore no speces so back round turn left at the roundabout try near Howden house no space in carpark or street so left then all round roundabout across roundabout none near milton house then back to second roundabout turn right then round coles again then left at first roundabout to get near town hall which surprise sursprise takes you back down to FIRST roundabout again. This is what I meant about difficult as you round in circles by force.

The problems are still there no matter what. I said I didn't like multi stories, also NCP no good for disabled cause as they are private they charge you just like Decatalon does.

Other people have mentioned the problems of Multi stories for me. A lot of people have mentioned the same problems as me, so by proxy we are all victims. Never had a lost parking ticket. Robbo you need to get out as much as you think I do!!!!

Originally posted by jubby
I didn't say the one-way system was a problem for me, just makes it more difficult. Example parking near to Coles/Howden house. You go up near Coles/Starstore no speces so back round turn left at the roundabout try near Howden house no space in carpark or street so left then all round roundabout across roundabout none near milton house then back to second roundabout turn right then round coles again then left at first roundabout to get near town hall which surprise sursprise takes you back down to FIRST roundabout again. This is what I meant about difficult as you round in circles by force.



jubby - why don't you simply observe the illuminated signs as you enter the city centre? These are the ones which tell you how many spaces are available in various car parks. It would save you going round and round in circles. Maybe it would spoil you playing the role of victim though?

Does anyone else have this same problem as jubby? Or is jubby, as I suspect, unique? I've never read so many posts from one person who simply can't get his act together! Amazing!

I have little doubt that jubby will feel obliged to keep us updated with his next set of parking problems.

In case anyone was waiting with baited breath to find out; I didn't get a ticket yesterday, even though I was parked there until about 8pm. Phew!

Not that anyone cares as you are far too busy bickering...tisk,tisk.

I care Deavon! Good news that you got no ticket!

PS
Blonk Street Car Park (talked about earlier, near the Wicker) is best for definately getting a space. I know this as have spent many hours driving round trying to find spaces - I need my car for work somedays. Jubby, dude - good luck and chill out! You'll do yourself a mischief!

Originally posted by chickmonk
I care Deavon! Good news that you got no ticket!

PS
Blonk Street Car Park (talked about earlier, near the Wicker) is best for definately getting a space. I know this as have spent many hours driving round trying to find spaces - I need my car for work somedays. Jubby, dude - good luck and chill out! You'll do yourself a mischief!

i mentioned that one aaaaaaaaaaages ago! but nobody paid ne attention! theres always spaces u can stay for ages and the prices aint to bad either, and in a few mins walk ur outside the castle markets!

Originally posted by redrobbo
jubby - why don't you simply observe the illuminated signs as you enter the city centre? These are the ones which tell you how many spaces are available in various car parks. It would save you going round and round in circles. Maybe it would spoil you playing the role of victim though?

Does anyone else have this same problem as jubby? Or is jubby, as I suspect, unique? I've never read so many posts from one person who simply can't get his act together! Amazing!

I have little doubt that jubby will feel obliged to keep us updated with his next set of parking problems.

Robbo

Read the other posts some I have replied to which mention other people's problems. The signs are not on all routes into the city I have seen them though. As myself and other people have mentioned car parks are not always the best option due to space size.

I have a question for anyone though. If you go in a barrier controlled car park that requires payment before you leave what do you do if you can't find a space. As someone else has mentioned she had to take up two spaces to fit/get out of car, so the computer will think there is a space and display this on the car park entrance and on the matrix boards round the city centre. If a few people do this either out of neccisity or just bad parking skills the information will be inaccurate. I know from parking with my brother in Coles it is all automated. Obvoiusly they will see when you pulled into the carpark, but at times after going though the entrance barrier it has took 20 mins to find a space on the top, so they could easily say you are pulling a fast one.

Anyh one know what you would have to do????

Thank you Chickmonk for caring!

Gosh when I read all these posts it makes me think that I might just buy a bicycle! The weather's getting better, and I could probably park it in a store room at work!

Originally posted by chickmonk
I care Deavon! Good news that you got no ticket!

PS
Blonk Street Car Park (talked about earlier, near the Wicker) is best for definately getting a space. I know this as have spent many hours driving round trying to find spaces - I need my car for work somedays. Jubby, dude - good luck and chill out! You'll do yourself a mischief! I do use the wickes one when at that side of town. Wasn't coming from that side of town the other day so would have considered it, as said time was tight on that day. With more time I would prob use it or parking near the moor if needed that side of town. One good place when we use the disabled badge is the on street next to Declation car park entrance. This is also good if you are popping into the sports superstore as its cheaper than the carpark and its an extra 2 minutes walk.

I don't mean to come across as bickering but for some reason redrobbo has a problem with my comments. I feel they are perfectly viable comments and sceanrios. In my past career I have to think of possible problems in all situations for Risk Assesments, that skill and my AS means I can think of possible and probably problems that can happen. Therefore these maybe not be problems that currently at this moment exsist, but they can.

Robbo lets just agree to disagree on this one. Obvoiusly we both have differing views on the matter and we don't seem to be able to agree. You have very good arguements in other threads and we can even agree on some of them!!:P

No hard feelings!:thumbsup:

Originally posted by jubby

My wife says did you take photo's of the boot climbing? With just giving birth to #5 she knows how you feel. Good luck with the little 'Un

Thank you! Very kind.
Five, blimey...

No, I didn't get photos, but one of the people parked next to us returned while my husband was climbing in and I demanded she stay till we had pulled out so I could be sure she hadn't gone down the side of our car. To be fair, she took it with good grace and waited, though she said she had been very careful not to hit us.
Nice of her. Didn't apologise for parking so close that I couldn't have put my arm between our cars...she'd even folded her mirror down to get as close as possible...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by redrobbo
jubby - why don't you simply observe the illuminated signs as you enter the city centre? These are the ones which tell you how many spaces are available in various car parks. It would save you going round and round in circles. Maybe it would spoil you playing the role of victim though?

Does anyone else have this same problem as jubby? Or is jubby, as I suspect, unique? I've never read so many posts from one person who simply can't get his act together! Amazing!

I have little doubt that jubby will feel obliged to keep us updated with his next set of parking problems.

Jeez man, stop being such a t0sser and give this guy a break...

you keep trying to put him down on every point he raises... Jubby came on here with this post to express an opinion of his regarding the parking facilities of Sheffield, and you just keep hacking him down on every post....

since when has it been the goal of people on this forum to launch a one man crusade to belittle people who give their opinions and experiences of Sheffield - something which this site exists for if nothing else...

let the guy state his opinions and back off....
if you dont wanna read about Jubby's problems / experiences then DONT READ THE POST !!!

Originally posted by bandit
let the guy state his opinions and back off....
if you dont wanna read about Jubby's problems / experiences then DONT READ THE POST !!!
bandit, the same could be said for redrobbos posts, let him have his say, and if you don't like what he's saying, don't read 'em.

It's an open forum, he can write what he likes, as can jubby, and you...

...disagree with him by all means, just don't ask him not to post about stuff.

:)

Originally posted by foo_fighter
bandit, the same could be said for redrobbos posts, let him have his say, and if you don't like what he's saying, don't read 'em.

It's an open forum, he can write what he likes, as can jubby, and you...

...disagree with him by all means, just don't ask him not to post about stuff.

:)

dont get me wrong... im not tryin to deny any1 the right to say what they feel... just seemed a lil unfair like redrobbo was kinda picking on jubby...

it ruins the forum when people who come on with a problem just get hounded like that...

Originally posted by jubby
I don't mean to come across as bickering but for some reason redrobbo has a problem with my comments. I feel they are perfectly viable comments and sceanrios. In my past career I have to think of possible problems in all situations for Risk Assesments, that skill and my AS means I can think of possible and probably problems that can happen. Therefore these maybe not be problems that currently at this moment exsist, but they can.

Robbo lets just agree to disagree on this one. Obvoiusly we both have differing views on the matter and we don't seem to be able to agree. You have very good arguements in other threads and we can even agree on some of them!!:P

No hard feelings!:thumbsup:

Ok, let me try and put my posts into perspective. jubby stated on 06 Apr "How do you propose I could have done today differently then?" My posts addressed this question (and not the issue of 1 hour parking). I tried to point out that this was an irrelevent question. jubby's parking problem had been and come and gone. End of story. But jubby doesn't let go of the issue, and keeps posting with more and more elaborate details, and, (check his posts) inventing scenarios that don't exist!

Ultimately, no matter what helpful suggestions have been made by other posters, jubby keeps on finding more difficulties. For example, (and, bandit, please note I have myself tried to be constructive towards jubby -) I suggested jubby uses the illuminated parking spaces signs for his next trip into town, but then he posts with a whole new set of anticipated problems.

Now, I'm sorry if I have sounded harsh in my criticism of jubby, but I feel that my posts were making a valid point about jubby playing the part of victim. jubby admits in his last post that he does indeed "think of possible and potential problems that can happen". In Berne's postulation, the victim is never satisfied, and will continue to find new and even more elaborate reasons why helpful suggestions will not work. The debate thus becomes sterile and quite simply, pointless. I have attempted to point out to jubby that, in my opinion, he is playing the role of victim. Indeed, we have moved off the subject of 1 hour parking, to reading posts from jubby on the difficulties he anticipates he will have in parking in multi-story car-parks.

I do not think this has anything to do with Risk Assessments (which is something I undertake in my own job as it happens). It is a peculiar mind-set, reminiscent of playing victim (see 'Games People Play' by Eric Berne). Berne details a victim game called "Ah but.......". This is where a 'victim' explains how hard done to he is, (for which you could read 1 hour parking problem), and elicits help. No matter how helpful the suggestions are, the victim then announces more information -"Ah but....." - which then demonstrates why the solutions wouldn't work. In the end, the victim reinforces his status as a victim.

My posts were an attempt to point out the futility of attempting to help jubby (though I then fell into that same trap myself by suggesting jubby utilises the illuminated car spaces signs - to which jubby announced he didn't come down that route!). You can't help jubby in the end. All you can do is challenge the mind-set, in the hope that jubby may just be able to recognise his victim behaviour. It didn't work, and jubby just can't be satisfied. Not a single constructive suggestion made by various posters has been of any help to him - he just gives more and more elaborate details of additional handicaps, problems and in jubby's own word - "scenarios".

I will now take bandit's advice, and withdraw from posting again on this thread. Not because I do not think I have a right to my own opinion, (and thank you foo_fighter for your shrewd observation on entitlement to views) - but because jubby has confirmed his victim status in his last post, and I will not be a party to encouraging this behaviour.

Best wishes with the family jubby.

redrobbo (or just Red, but never rob or robbo)

Originally posted by redrobbo
Ok, let me try and put my posts into perspective. jubby stated on 06 Apr "How do you propose I could have done today differently then?" My posts addressed this question (and not the issue of 1 hour parking). I tried to point out that this was an irrelevent question. jubby's parking problem had been and come and gone. End of story. But jubby doesn't let go of the issue, and keeps posting with more and more elaborate details, and, (check his posts) inventing scenarios that don't exist!

Ultimately, no matter what helpful suggestions have been made by other posters, jubby keeps on finding more difficulties. For example, (and, bandit, please note I have myself tried to be constructive towards jubby -) I suggested jubby uses the illuminated parking spaces signs for his next trip into town, but then he posts with a whole new set of anticipated problems.

Now, I'm sorry if I have sounded harsh in my criticism of jubby, but I feel that my posts were making a valid point about jubby playing the part of victim. jubby admits in his last post that he does indeed "think of possible and potential problems that can happen". In Berne's postulation, the victim is never satisfied, and will continue to find new and even more elaborate reasons why helpful suggestions will not work. The debate thus becomes sterile and quite simply, pointless. I have attempted to point out to jubby that, in my opinion, he is playing the role of victim. Indeed, we have moved off the subject of 1 hour parking, to reading posts from jubby on the difficulties he anticipates he will have in parking in multi-story car-parks.

I do not think this has anything to do with Risk Assessments (which is something I undertake in my own job as it happens). It is a peculiar mind-set, reminiscent of playing victim (see 'Games People Play' by Eric Berne). Berne details a victim game called "Ah but.......". This is where a 'victim' explains how hard done to he is, (for which you could read 1 hour parking problem), and elicits help. No matter how helpful the suggestions are, the victim then announces more information -"Ah but....." - which then demonstrates why the solutions wouldn't work. In the end, the victim reinforces his status as a victim.

My posts were an attempt to point out the futility of attempting to help jubby (though I then fell into that same trap myself by suggesting jubby utilises the illuminated car spaces signs - to which jubby announced he didn't come down that route!). You can't help jubby in the end. All you can do is challenge the mind-set, in the hope that jubby may just be able to recognise his victim behaviour. It didn't work, and jubby just can't be satisfied. Not a single constructive suggestion made by various posters has been of any help to him - he just gives more and more elaborate details of additional handicaps, problems and in jubby's own word - "scenarios".

I will now take bandit's advice, and withdraw from posting again on this thread. Not because I do not think I have a right to my own opinion, (and thank you foo_fighter for your shrewd observation on entitlement to views) - but because jubby has confirmed his victim status in his last post, and I will not be a party to encouraging this behaviour.

Best wishes with the family jubby.

redrobbo (or just Red, but never rob or robbo)

Hi Redrobbo sorry for calling you by the wrong shortened name, didn't relise you didn't like it.

I am not saying you are not entitled to your point of view, hey on some threads we agree!!

I think what has happened becuase we seem to not agree this time it sounds or looks like you were putting me down, I'm sure it was not your intention and I didn't take it as that. I sort of took it as you couldn't see my POV and I think at times you couldn't see mine. maybe?

The thing about the parking matrix signs was becuase of the route we take due to the fact of which side of the city we live we don't go past them. I think those signs are a good idea and at the time of installation I worked at Milton House as was fully behind the scheme. I expresed at the public show of the road changes this scheme was part of was that they were not enough of them and maybe too localised to the very nearby carparks. What I mean by this say you are coming in on the Moor way and the nearby ones are full you might not know where others are. By being more detailed you can save time driving round trying to find a carpark space. The bit about the one way system was part of this as if you knew there was spaces in one area you wouldn't waste time driving round to find it, you would head straight down and therefore be less stressed and save fuel... The council have a very good coulor coded system for car parks and the matrix could ultilise this by saying spaces at green carparks but full at red etc.

By using the sceraino I was aiming to come across as the victim, but just trying to show the problems with parking in Sheffield. To illistrate problems you have to come up with scenarios weather highly likely or not, just the same with risk assesments. If you dissagree you may not be through enough with the risk assesments you do?

Thank you for the good wishes, I know none of the comments were personal and just a way of expressing your POV.

We will leave it there and just wait for the other problems people are posting like the pregnant lady (cosywolf, i think it was). We are due to register my baby on Friday morn, with nothing else until time for nursery as I am on Perternity Leave, so shouldn't have the problems of the other week as we will have some time to find a space hopefully nearby. Lets hope there are no road problems as we will be setting off just after the rush hour so should be quick.

Take care Red.

Damn posted under my wife addy.

We went into Sheffield today (Thurs 20th April) at midday & parked without a prob in a P&D carpark.
We were braced for a nightmare cos it's snooker week.

Luck of the draw really I guess.