Good signing for the baldes, should help being in even more £££££'s

http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~1317531,00.html

Baldes? Is Alan Cork still playing for you? :hihi:

Don't get me wrong - as an Owl I've nothing to smile about when it comes to business ventures by my club.

But....

1. Jordan? Who are they? They don't exist anymore? Not much of a credential saying that you were marketting manager for a team that, in a world where finance is based purely on markteing and sponsorship, doesn't exist anymore.

2. How much ££££££'s have your global commercial ventures actually netted you so far?

3. Were Kung Fu baldes affected by the Chinese earthquake at all? If so, and they suffered infrastructure damage, will the Sheffield baldes have to pay for it?

Baldes? Is Alan Cork still playing for you? :hihi:

Don't get me wrong - as an Owl I've nothing to smile about when it comes to business ventures by my club.

But....

1. Jordan? Who are they? They don't exist anymore? Not much of a credential saying that you were marketting manager for a team that, in a world where finance is based purely on markteing and sponsorship, doesn't exist anymore.

2. How much ££££££'s have your global commercial ventures actually netted you so far?

3. Were Kung Fu baldes affected by the Chinese earthquake at all? If so, and they suffered infrastructure damage, will the Sheffield baldes have to pay for it?

and have wednesday employed nick leeson to sort out their finacial affairs.
with the state of wednesdays financial affairs ,It would be very prudent of the owls fans to avoid this subject . it would be safer investing in chocolate fireguards .

and have wednesday employed nick leeson to sort out their finacial affairs.
with the state of wednesdays financial affairs ,It would be very prudent of the owls fans to avoid this subject . it would be safer investing in chocolate fireguards .

As I said in my post, I've nothing to smile about.

but it doesn't mean I shouldn't ask the questions.

As I said in my post, I've nothing to smile about.

but it doesn't mean I shouldn't ask the questions.

thats right frank , not aiming at you personally .

No matter how much money the Blades make they'll still be a bit pants, won't they?

Nothing can change this.

This is a top appointment, a real coup for United with a Chairman who is patient to build and is thinking ahead. Clubs can't rely on TV and Gate revenue they have to become a global brand in order to survive in the Premiership.

Well done the Baldes progressive board.

But....

1. Jordan? Who are they? They don't exist anymore? Not much of a credential saying that you were marketting manager for a team that, in a world where finance is based purely on markteing and sponsorship, doesn't exist anymore - What about that other little venture he was involved in, MANCHESTER UNITED

2. How much ££££££'s have your global commercial ventures actually netted you so far? Who knows, we've only been involved with them for the last 2yrs so probably not much, i get the impression its more a long term strategy though.

3. Were Kung Fu baldes affected by the Chinese earthquake at all? If so, and they suffered infrastructure damage, will the Sheffield baldes have to pay for it? No structural damage was suffered by the Chengdu Blades and all immediate staff and club personel were unharmed (as reported in the Blades website at the time of the quake). We have sent a team out to the Chengdu region to help with the rescue efforts along with counsellors to help club officials and the local communities help deal with their losses.

I hope the above clears up any queries you had, please feel free to PM me if you have any further concerns!!

But....

1. Jordan? Who are they? They don't exist anymore? Not much of a credential saying that you were marketting manager for a team that, in a world where finance is based purely on markteing and sponsorship, doesn't exist anymore - What about that other little venture he was involved in, MANCHESTER UNITED

2. How much ££££££'s have your global commercial ventures actually netted you so far? Who knows, we've only been involved with them for the last 2yrs so probably not much, i get the impression its more a long term strategy though.

3. Were Kung Fu baldes affected by the Chinese earthquake at all? If so, and they suffered infrastructure damage, will the Sheffield baldes have to pay for it? No structural damage was suffered by the Chengdu Blades and all immediate staff and club personel were unharmed (as reported in the Blades website at the time of the quake). We have sent a team out to the Chengdu region to help with the rescue efforts along with counsellors to help club officials and the local communities help deal with their losses.

I hope the above clears up any queries you had, please feel free to PM me if you have any further concerns!!

Man United though?!?

Come on - working there is like opening a sweet shop in a playground. There are so many 'fans' (mainly south of Watford, and mostly East of.....somewhere quite Easterly) - riders of the glory band wagon - who'd buy a Man U kit that marketting for them must be the easiest job in the world.

No offence, but the blades - bit of a different proposition. For anyone.

No offence, but the blades - bit of a different proposition. For anyone.

It is, however he obviously comes with the right credentials (as much as you try and belittle what the man has done previously).

You're beginning to sound very bitter Frank!!

It is, however he obviously comes with the right credentials (as much as you try and belittle what the man has done previously).

You're beginning to sound very bitter Frank!!

I am bitter - always have been - and not just about football. :hihi:

Point being that marketting Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, or even Barcelona, Real Madrd, the Milanese teams - not the hardest job in the world.

Every other club - different game altogether.

Whilst I agree it's a smart move to look forward, I don't think it's the cash cow (£££££'s) that bladesufc1 suggests in the OP.

I am bitter - always have been - and not just about football. :hihi:

Point being that marketting Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, or even Barcelona, Real Madrd, the Milanese teams - not the hardest job in the world.

Every other club - different game altogether.

Whilst I agree it's a smart move to look forward, I don't think it's the cash cow (£££££'s) that bladesufc1 suggests in the OP.


I know what you mean about marketing football clubs, i market hotels in the US and Caribbean an i tell you its a damn sight easier than marketing bags of nails.

I don't think it will be a cash cow as such (e.g. generating the endless millions, Real Madrid and Man U do in shirt sales), but i reckon the oportunity to make a few million quid is out there so why not go for it? A few million quid to anyone is a worthwhile project.

Whilst I agree it's a smart move to look forward, I don't think it's the cash cow (£££££'s) that bladesufc1 suggests in the OP.

This did come from the man who wholeheartedly predicted United would smash Sunderland's promotion record though, Frank [smirk].

Man United though?!?

Come on - working there is like opening a sweet shop in a playground. There are so many 'fans' (mainly south of Watford, and mostly East of.....somewhere quite Easterly) - riders of the glory band wagon - who'd buy a Man U kit that marketting for them must be the easiest job in the world.

No offence, but the blades - bit of a different proposition. For anyone.

The Blades are a different proposition and I don't think that they are going to try and compete with Man U.

However, at the moment, in China for instance, there is only a few football brands such as Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barcalona, Real Madrid etc. Someone with the contacts Mr Farnan has got must be an asset for any marketing department. I don't think it will be easy for him, but without someone like him United would find it very difficult to break new markets.

Remember that the Premiership is probably the most watched week in, week out, sporting event on TV in the world. The financial potential for any club is astronomical.

Obvously and unique to football is that (and this is the crucial point) success of the brand ultimatly is linked to the success of the team.

Will people buy United as a brand? There are so many meaningless branded products in the shops anything is possible. I think that they will however be maketed as The Blades and dissassociate from the words Sheffeild and United, you can see this already happening with the teams they have bought in to, they slap the word Blades on the end: Chengdu Blades, was called Chengdu Wuniu.

The point is, would anybody be interested in a club playing non-premiership football? Now if you lot do get back in there, then it's a whole different ball game marketing wise!

The point is, would anybody be interested in a club playing non-premiership football? Now if you lot do get back in there, then it's a whole different ball game marketing wise!

Exactly, it's called planning for the future.

Unlike Wendys and Dirty Leeds who ploughed loadsa money in to try and sort out their immediate problems on the pitch i.e. buying expensive players and seeling them cheaply etc, over the last decade we've steadily been building a sustainable, self sufficient football club.

Football is no longer just about 22 men on a pitch, it's a business and, luckily, United saw that early enough and started to try and catch up with the top teams.

Yes, there's a long way to go, but we're no longer in debt, any money coming in is ours. We own a number of clubs abroad and that number is growing. Our off the pitch enterprises will/should bring in a high level of finances that will help to keep the club stable for years to come.

A lot of it is a gamble, as nothing is certain, especially in the footballing world. We're just trying to make as good a job of keeping ourselves in contention as possible, whether it be in 3, 5, 10 or 15 years time.

Baldes? Is Alan Cork still playing for you? :hihi:

Don't get me wrong - as an Owl I've nothing to smile about when it comes to business ventures by my club.

But....

1. Jordan? Who are they? They don't exist anymore? Not much of a credential saying that you were marketting manager for a team that, in a world where finance is based purely on markteing and sponsorship, doesn't exist anymore.

2. How much ££££££'s have your global commercial ventures actually netted you so far?

3. Were Kung Fu baldes affected by the Chinese earthquake at all? If so, and they suffered infrastructure damage, will the Sheffield baldes have to pay for it?


your a very very sad bitter and twisted person, perhaps you need to leave the PC alone for 1 day and get a life all of your own..:loopy:

This is a top appointment, a real coup for United with a Chairman who is patient to build and is thinking ahead. Clubs can't rely on TV and Gate revenue they have to become a global brand in order to survive in the Premiership.

Well done the Baldes progressive board.


well said that man!! football just isn't about gates & TV you must think far far afield

Man United though?!?

Come on - working there is like opening a sweet shop in a playground. There are so many 'fans' (mainly south of Watford, and mostly East of.....somewhere quite Easterly) - riders of the glory band wagon - who'd buy a Man U kit that marketting for them must be the easiest job in the world.

No offence, but the blades - bit of a different proposition. For anyone.

haha bitter and twisted get a life my sad little piggy

Whilst I agree it's a smart move to look forward, I don't think it's the cash cow (£££££'s) that bladesufc1 suggests in the OP.

of course it is not in the next 12 months no def not, but football isn't about 1 season is it..

haha bitter and twisted get a life my sad little piggy

So, your saying there isnt a difference between European and Premier League champions Manchester United and nearly made it into the Championship play-offs (sort of) Sheffield United?

2. How much ££££££'s have your global commercial ventures actually netted you so far?

3. Were Kung Fu baldes affected by the Chinese earthquake at all? If so, and they suffered infrastructure damage, will the Sheffield baldes have to pay for it?[/QUOTE]

Our global ventures are yet to see any profit if memory serves, has yours?
Secondly the football ground in Chengdu suffered considerable damage so it is probably on a par with hillsbro at the moment.
PS how is the takeover of wendy going ? not heard anything since "there will be developments next week" which was around 4 weeks ago.

Our global ventures are yet to see any profit if memory serves, has yours?
Secondly the football ground in Chengdu suffered considerable damage so it is probably on a par with hillsbro at the moment.

It's all well and good having fantastic plans, but you've got to deliver eventually. How long will you wait? I plan to walk to the moon one day - doesn't mean I'll make it!

As for the ground - well you can come back and complain WHEN yours has been chosen for a major tournament (like Euro 96 where many of the pundits attending Hillsborough said it was the best ground they'd ever worked at for facilities).;)

haha bitter and twisted get a life my sad little piggy

Hmm, someone's getting a little upset. Why is that?

It's all well and good having fantastic plans, but you've got to deliver eventually. How long will you wait? I plan to walk to the moon one day - doesn't mean I'll make it!

As for the ground - well you can come back and complain WHEN yours has been chosen for a major tournament (like Euro 96 where many of the pundits attending Hillsborough said it was the best ground they'd ever worked at for facilities).;)

euro 96 :confused::confused: it's euro 2008 in a few weeks .
to much living in the past , me thinks .:P

It's all well and good having fantastic plans, but you've got to deliver eventually. How long will you wait? I plan to walk to the moon one day - doesn't mean I'll make it!

As for the ground - well you can come back and complain WHEN yours has been chosen for a major tournament (like Euro 96 where many of the pundits attending Hillsborough said it was the best ground they'd ever worked at for facilities).;)

Think that you're being a tad unrealistic in your comparisons here FS.
An old Chinese saying is that a " 1000 mile journey begins with a single step" or something like that.
The point being that United do have realistic plans for success whereas walking to the moon is a figment of your imagination.
I hate dwelling on the past but what if Blackwell had been in charge since Warnock left ?
Maybe a return to the PL would have been on the cards. Who knows ?
To sum up,plans ARE in place but whether they succeed is something no-one can predict at this time anyway.
But surely you must admit that the Blades are going forward.
Your point about the grounds is conceded but you are talking about 12 years ago now and from what I read on here Hillsborough has gone downhill a little whereas the Lane has improved quite a bit.

euro 96 :confused::confused: it's euro 2008 in a few weeks .
to much living in the past , me thinks .:P


So it is, but what I'm getting at is that our MAIN stand was totally redeveloped only 12 yeras ago.

Yes Hillsborough has parts that need working on (mainly the away area that we don't care about).

But don't you blades kid yourselves that it's 'falling down'. It isn't.

Our kops were redevloped around about the same time. Our away ends are as old as each others - albeit that yours has had a lick of paint and some cladding. Your Cherry St stand is old - like our North Stand. And your've got the John St stand which is relatively new - like our South Stand.

And only 12 years ago we were packed out hosting Euro 96 games.

Trying to convince us (or yourselves) that it has fallen into a dereliict state of ruin in those 12 years is ridiculous.

Think that you're being a tad unrealistic in your comparisons here FS.
An old Chinese saying is that a " 1000 mile journey begins with a single step" or something like that.
The point being that United do have realistic plans for success whereas walking to the moon is a figment of your imagination.
I hate dwelling on the past but what if Blackwell had been in charge since Warnock left ?
Maybe a return to the PL would have been on the cards. Who knows ?
To sum up,plans ARE in place but whether they succeed is something no-one can predict at this time anyway.
But surely you must admit that the Blades are going forward.
Your point about the grounds is conceded but you are talking about 12 years ago now and from what I read on here Hillsborough has gone downhill a little whereas the Lane has improved quite a bit.

I've maintained all along that it is good to have plans for the future.

But how do you measure that those plans are worthwhile?

What targets etc. do you set?

When would you (not that I'm suggesting you would ever have to) conceed that those plans weren't viable, and the money would be better spent at home?

A good number of years ago, Charlton set up soccer schools all along the med. Turned out to be a complete waste of money.

I've maintained all along that it is good to have plans for the future.

But how do you measure that those plans are worthwhile?

What targets etc. do you set?

When would you (not that I'm suggesting you would ever have to) conceed that those plans weren't viable, and the money would be better spent at home?

A good number of years ago, Charlton set up soccer schools all along the med. Turned out to be a complete waste of money.

I don't think that you can measure them completely until they either fail or succeed although they can be monitored for progress if set points are established.
Setting plans requires lots of optimism and intelligent guesswork, in my opinion.
Put them in place and go for it.
I think that we all know that the main target is promotion pdq.
I think that Kevin McCabe has a time frame of two years in mind, although I don't know whether I read that or not.
In any case I'm sure he has a realistic target.
I would say that if United weren't getting any decent players from those other clubs within the next five years then the setup should be re-visited but that's my opinion only.
P.S. Like your closing comments at the bottom of your post.

So it is, but what I'm getting at is that our MAIN stand was totally redeveloped only 12 yeras ago.

Yes Hillsborough has parts that need working on (mainly the away area that we don't care about).

But don't you blades kid yourselves that it's 'falling down'. It isn't.

Our kops were redevloped around about the same time. Our away ends are as old as each others - albeit that yours has had a lick of paint and some cladding. Your Cherry St stand is old - like our North Stand. And your've got the John St stand which is relatively new - like our South Stand.

And only 12 years ago we were packed out hosting Euro 96 games.

Trying to convince us (or yourselves) that it has fallen into a dereliict state of ruin in those 12 years is ridiculous.


I'm not trying to convince you of anything , we are talking on this thread about united signing farnan to help the club go forward . talking about wednesdays ground 12 years ago is not rellevant. united have a far better foundation for the future than wednesday , the ground ,the team ,the managent and investments . we have probably learned from watching wednesday , bradford and others who thought the best way to stay in the top flight was pay unrealistic wages to so called superstars who eventually skint the clubs with their crazy contracts . uniteds growth is gradual and sustainable and success hopefully will follow . wednesday fans keep going on about some miracle happening and a buyer bailing them out and buying a fantastic team . it wont happen and the reason being is apart from liverpool and manchester , london is where they want to be , look at QPR .

Secondly the football ground in Chengdu suffered considerable damage so it is probably on a par with hillsbro at the moment.


Absolute crap.

But don't you blades kid yourselves that it's 'falling down'. It isn't

Trying to convince us (or yourselves) that it has fallen into a dereliict state of ruin in those 12 years is ridiculous.


so why was the away corner shut down for safety reasons frontbottom. and dont say segregation because its been open in the past . even when we were on three sides of the ground,

It's all well and good having fantastic plans, but you've got to deliver eventually. How long will you wait?

Nobody should be kidding themselves that the plans at Sheff Utd are anything other than long term. I don't expect us to be a top side ever really, when you consider the massive resources of clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Even clubs like Newcastle, Everton and Sunderland have a huge advantage over us because of their fanbase.

However, it's a good sign that our board is doing whatever it can to improve our finances, scouting network, stadium and playing squad. Surely you would want the same to be going on at Wednesday?

so why was the away corner shut down for safety reasons frontbottom. and dont say segregation because its been open in the past . even when we were on three sides of the ground,

As I've said before, the clubs line is that they don't open that part of the ground due to the vastly increased cost of policing that section of the ground as the home and away fans are so close.

Policing costs in the last few years have increased considerably, and we've got sod all money to pay it (for the few thousand we'd get in there at £20 a shot, SYP would probably charge a fortune to police!).

Talk of it being unsafe are just rumours that have in general been started by blades - nothing official has ever been said about that.

So until we hear an official line that that area is unsafe, then all talk of it being unsafe is just 'gossip'.

p.s. I do remeber you being on 4 sides of the ground in derbys in the early 90's. And I remember you all getting chased back to the away end too. :hihi:

Nobody should be kidding themselves that the plans at Sheff Utd are anything other than long term. I don't expect us to be a top side ever really, when you consider the massive resources of clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Even clubs like Newcastle, Everton and Sunderland have a huge advantage over us because of their fanbase.

However, it's a good sign that our board is doing whatever it can to improve our finances, scouting network, stadium and playing squad. Surely you would want the same to be going on at Wednesday?Absolutely. When Keegan says Newcastle who are bigger than both Sheffield teams combined have no chance of being a top 4 club for a considerable amount of time it would be folly to consider this apointment as a short term fix. Farnen is there because of his contacts and knowledge which will work in tandem with any on the pitch success (if there is any). Even the most rabid and biased wednesday fan must conclude that aiming to establish the club as a worldwide brand to generate further income can only be a good thing.

p.s. I do remeber you being on 4 sides of the ground in derbys in the early 90's. And I remember you all getting chased back to the away end too. :hihi:

I must say, i don't recall this my friend, though i don't recall us been in 3 sides of your ground.

Absolutely. When Keegan says Newcastle who are bigger than both Sheffield teams combined have no chance of being a top 4 club for a considerable amount of time it would be folly to consider this apointment as a short term fix. Farnen is there because of his contacts and knowledge which will work in tandem with any on the pitch success (if there is any). Even the most rabid and biased wednesday fan must conclude that aiming to establish the club as a worldwide brand to generate further income can only be a good thing.

Exactly.
My local British imports store stocks shirts and scarves for Man. U, Liverpool, Rangers. Celtic and even L***s :gag:
It would be nice to see a Blades or even an Owls shirt or scarf in there.
P.S. What a great thread this has turned out to be.
Lots of input with no insults in sight.
Well done Sufc1

Exactly.
My local British imports store stocks shirts and scarves for Man. U, Liverpool, Rangers. Celtic and even L***s :gag:
It would be nice to see a Blades or even an Owls shirt or scarf in there.

Went to the Toronto FC game the day before Thursday night and i bet i saw at least 250 or people with some item of Man Utd on.
Granted Man Ure had just finished playing Chelski and some of those people went straight to the TFC match from the afternoon session in the pub but, I am guaranteeing you 249 of those i saw wearing Man U have never seen Man U play and probably never even been to England for a holiday :mad:
I wear a Blades shirt or Blades scarf or t-shirt whenever possible Chuff ;)

Good signing for the baldes, should help being in even more £££££'s

http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~1317531,00.html

The united "Big time" thing always seems a bit phony to me. The ground is a bit tacky. The club on a par with Norwich.

Good signing for the baldes, should help being in even more £££££'s

http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~1317531,00.html

Wouldn't the money be better spent on a decent m/f?

I won't embarrass you and post a link to your previous predictions.

ps. who are the baldes?

Absolute crap.

Ah, a comment to bring them all in and what happens.
It is simple even for you blue mob.
You ARE n't a big club anymore, the football world is laughing at you at the moment and we are sitting pretty with the situation of football in Sheffield.
Again where is the takeover?

" No takeovers in town, no swillsbro to sadden my eyes, the ground is derelict and the players have fled and the year is 1889"

It makes you wonder doesn't it.
A city is marked on its prosperity by the amount of building work going on in that city. Remind me again on the amount of RESTORATION work going on at s6?

As for the ground - well you can come back and complain WHEN yours has been chosen for a major tournament (like Euro 96 where many of the pundits attending Hillsborough said it was the best ground they'd ever worked at for facilities).;)[/QUOTE]

Yopurs was chosen because of the dodgy connections with the FA.
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As for the ground - well you can come back and complain WHEN yours has been chosen for a major tournament (like Euro 96 where many of the pundits attending Hillsborough said it was the best ground they'd ever worked at for facilities).;)[/QUOTE]

Yours was chosen because of the dodgy connections with the FA, and by the way where is Richards now?
Before we go in to Euro 96, can you explain why officials from wendy walked around the area of leppings Lane giving up to 40 FREE tickets for the games?
The wife often laughs at the fact that wendy couldn't sell all their tickets.
Do the blue mob think we would have the same problem? no because we can sell all our tickets, remember the Lane this year?
Or do you need another wash to remind yourselves.

As for the ground - well you can come back and complain WHEN yours has been chosen for a major tournament (like Euro 96 where many of the pundits attending Hillsborough said it was the best ground they'd ever worked at for facilities).;)

Yours was chosen because of the dodgy connections with the FA, and by the way where is Richards now?
Before we go in to Euro 96, can you explain why officials from wendy walked around the area of leppings Lane giving up to 40 FREE tickets for the games?
The wife often laughs at the fact that wendy couldn't sell all their tickets.
Do the blue mob think we would have the same problem? no because we can sell all our tickets , remember the Lane this year?
Or do you need another wash to remind yourselves.

Ahem *cough* Middlesborough *cough* FA Cup this year *cough* FREE tickets *snigger* 22,000 at the lane *guffaw*

no because we can sell all our tickets

Whats that I can smell?:hihi:

I do remeber you being on 4 sides of the ground in derbys in the early 90's. And I remember you all getting chased back to the away end too. :hihi:


keep dreaming frontbottom.

As for the ground - well you can come back and complain WHEN yours has been chosen for a major tournament (like Euro 96 where many of the pundits attending Hillsborough said it was the best ground they'd ever worked at for facilities).;)

Yopurs was chosen because of the dodgy connections with the FA.
B[/QUOTE]

You and your consipiracies about the FA. :hihi:

Ah, a comment to bring them all in and what happens.
It is simple even for you blue mob.
You ARE n't a big club anymore, the football world is laughing at you at the moment and we are sitting pretty with the situation of football in Sheffield.
Again where is the takeover?

" No takeovers in town, no swillsbro to sadden my eyes, the ground is derelict and the players have fled and the year is 1889"

It makes you wonder doesn't it.
A city is marked on its prosperity by the amount of building work going on in that city. Remind me again on the amount of RESTORATION work going on at s6?

Erm I was merely commenting on what you said earlier

Secondly the football ground in Chengdu suffered considerable damage so it is probably on a par with hillsbro at the moment

Which is without a doubt, along with your above post, the absolute crap that I expect from bitter blades. I don't go shouting off that Bramall Lane is falling down like places near an catastrophic earthquake. Poor taste for bringing that into it btw.

Erm I was merely commenting on what you said earlier



Which is without a doubt, along with your above post, the absolute crap that I expect from bitter blades. I don't go shouting off that Bramall Lane is falling down like places near an catastrophic earthquake. Poor taste for bringing that into it btw.

your very unlikely to comment about bramall lane when you dont know what your sty looks like.

Which is without a doubt, along with your above post, the absolute crap that I expect from bitter blades. I don't go shouting off that Bramall Lane is falling down like places near an catastrophic earthquake. Poor taste for bringing that into it btw.[/QUOTE]

Who is bitter?
If you read more of my posts like those including how you are treated at s6 then you will find there is no bitterness at all.
You are absolutely right however, the comment about the earthquake and its comparison to hillsbro was bad.
I appologise for any offence it may have caused.

your very unlikely to comment about bramall lane when you dont know what your sty looks like.

Very funny.

I have been to Hillsborough many times, I was a season ticket holder before I went to uni- ya happy? You need to give it a rest with this, you're kinda becoming obsessed.

I also went to Bramall Lane a few years ago, was a good day out actually. Although the wooden seats were a pain in the arse.

Very funny.

I have been to Hillsborough many times, I was a season ticket holder before I went to uni- ya happy? You need to give it a rest with this, you're kinda becoming obsessed.

I also went to Bramall Lane a few years ago, was a good day out actually. Although the wooden seats were a pain in the arse.


but yer could'nt be arsed to get out of your student pit in leicester and go and get a tkt for your big game there. but the excuse you use for not going to the sty is "because i live in leicester"

not obsessed at all young man. could'nt give a toss if you go or not its just your one of the first to jump in and slag united but cant be arsed to watch your own team.

oh and i know i'm always gunner get a bite from you.
sits back and waits for another tiddler.

but yer could'nt be arsed to get out of your student pit in leicester and go and get a tkt for your big game there. but the excuse you use for not going to the sty is "because i live in leicester"

not obsessed at all young man. could'nt give a toss if you go or not its just your one of the first to jump in and slag united but cant be arsed to watch your own team.

oh and i know i'm always gunner get a bite from you.
sits back and waits for another tiddler.

Well yes, of course you are going to expect a 'bite'. You're that kind of poster. I do expect this kinda thing.

When someone's being an arsehole like yourself I tend to respond. *Pssst* This is how these things work on internet forums :rolleyes:

Im not the first to jump in and 'slag' united. Infact, I rarely start threads and I never resort to the name calling ******** that goes on here.

I generally jump in to defend my own team when threads are started with idiotic comments such as "Hillsborough's falling down" etc. Yet you constantly feel the need to bring up the fact that I haven't attended as many games as I do when I live in Sheffield. Does that give me less of a right to contribute to this forum?

Well yes, of course you are going to expect a 'bite'. You're that kind of poster. I do expect this kinda thing.

When someone's being an arsehole like yourself I tend to respond. *Pssst* This is how these things work on internet forums :rolleyes:

Im not the first to jump in and 'slag' united. Infact, I rarely start threads and I never resort to the name calling ******** that goes on here.

I generally jump in to defend my own team when threads are started with idiotic comments such as "Hillsborough's falling down" etc. Yet you constantly feel the need to bring up the fact that I haven't attended as many games as I do when I live in Sheffield. Does that give me less of a right to contribute to this forum?

no i'm not constantly bringing up the fact about you not attending cos you dont live in sheffield. i constantly bring it up because you use it as an excuse when the real reason is you can't be arsed to get out of bed. as was proven when you could'nt be ased to go over the road and watch your beloved pigs in leicester. and less of the arsehole thats just rude.

You spoke too soon Chuffinel, it's descended in to another slanging match ... the perpetrators know who they are.
If Wednesday had attempted to do what Utd have done (off the pitch) over the last few years, I'd be sitting here now with a lot more confidence in our board than I have at the moment. Only success on the pitch will bear fruit from United's efforts. If they fail on the pitch, they'll fail in their other ventures.... at least they're trying.... what's our lot at Hillsborough doing?