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Don't you think we have enough staffys in the world already :)

Don't you think we have enough staffys in the world already :)

hmmmmmmm i would like to second that

27 staffies were put down last month!!!

More staffies.:rant: to add to the pressure of the staffy overpopulation already. Before you think about breeding your dog please go and visit one of your local rescue centres and you will see the amount of staffies that end up in in rescue centres. I promise you will not want to breedwhen you see that.

hmmmmmmm i would like to second that

Yep ill be thiird in line to agree,

They are gorgeous dogs but there really is enough unwanted staffies in the world already. Any rescue centre you look in will have at least 1 staffy, and large organisatons like the RSPCA usually have at least 10 at any 1 time. People should be trying to do more to help the needy staffies, not breeding more that could end up in a rescue centre in a few months/years.

please please dont do it ,i like a few on here are fighting every day to save staffies on deaths row, Theres more than enough staffies in the pounds & rescues to supply demands

If you want another dog there are so many beautiful staffies in rescues to choose from puppies too, why help to make 5 or 6 new lives when you know that you can only give one of them a good home?
Think over what everyone has said before you stud your dog out, if you love the breed you will see the sense in not breeding.

There are about 30 staffy crosses and maybe 10 pure bred staffy's - out of them maybe 10 of them will be under 1 year old.

If you fancy gaining yourself a free puppy - and want to kill the others in the litter - go ahead. Book you an appointment to go down to your local stray kennels if you don't believe the comments on here.

Its about time the Staffordshire Bull Terrier owners woke up to the problem in the breed. To see the volumes of them at crufts - fantastic natured dogs - BUT - they have got to get together and get this problem of ridiculous breeding stopped somehow - its at a crisis situation.

Please please - don't breed any more

Particularly high %age of dogs in shelters are Staffys then?

Any thoughts why that is?

Particularly high %age of dogs in shelters are Staffys then?

Any thoughts why that is?

Because idiots buy them as a status symbol rather for the wonderful family dog they are

Mines ten years old now and she was speyed as soon as she was able to be. I'd never have another breed again. They are truly wonderful loyal dogs :)

I've got to be honest i was not aware of the staffy crisis until i joined the forum. I would love to breed my Arnie not for money but just to have a pup from him as he's 4 now. But after reading so many stories i realised it would not be a good idea.
I would certainly get a dog from a rescue centre when that time comes

Because idiots buy them as a status symbol rather for the wonderful family dog they are

Mines ten years old now and she was speyed as soon as she was able to be. I'd never have another breed again. They are truly wonderful loyal dogs :)

I agree. Mine was spayed today and boy does she feel sorry for herself. She's curled up on a blanket and keeps giving me the puppy eyes as if to say "its all your fault ". But its for the best and at least I can be confident that she won't contribute to the puppy crisis.

I agree. Mine was spayed today and boy does she feel sorry for herself. She's curled up on a blanket and keeps giving me the puppy eyes as if to say "its all your fault ". But its for the best and at least I can be confident that she won't contribute to the puppy crisis.


Oh I remember that sorrowful face well! I felt sooooo bad but knew it was for the best. I have to say it was the only day in her life I've ever been able to give her a 100% cuddle without having her bound and wiggle all over me :D

If we do nothing else on this forum that prevent some people breeding from their staffy's or even allowing their own staffy to wander the streets, and produce other cross breeds - then the forum is worthwhile (as well as lots of other interesting stuff on here)

I personally truly believe that the general public are not aware of the crisis within this breed. It has been bred for generations and the temprament is designed to be fantastic with children - and when well socialised - a perfect dog - its only since the idiots have got into liking this breed - that the temprament has changed. So, the more we all spread the word to reduce the numbers around the country - the better it is for the breed.

Well done all you sensible ones for the spay/neuter - Arnica works wonders on after care bruising.

I despaired at the amount of Staffies I saw on the streets around with 'teens' and all encouraged to fight and brawl with each other. Needless to say these dogs weren't to be seen again come a year later as some new breed became the next trendy thing to have. :rant:

I also didn't know how many staffys are in the pound until I came on the forum.I do hope people on here will think again before wanting to breed.I have my staffy because I love the breed as does my family. There are people like myself who dont have them because they are a status symbol though:(

Staffies are one of my fav dogs i love them to bits, both of our dogs are staffie crosses and they was both rescued would love another staffie its just pursuading (sp) the other half lol

Because idiots buy them as a status symbol rather for the wonderful family dog they are

Mines ten years old now and she was speyed as soon as she was able to be. I'd never have another breed again. They are truly wonderful loyal dogs :)

I agree too, my OH's little girl adopted me as her new best friend and she is a treasure to have around, although she doesn't act like a staffie and she actually thinks shes a lapdog :suspect: funny when shes sat on someone elses knee but when its your own, it hurts quite a bit :hihi:

Ahem, Porscha has just kicked me out of bed and is cuddled up to my OH.. :(
Staffys are total girls who want to lounge, be loved and cuddled... such vicious beasts ... NOT!

btw, her spay went fine, she was digging in the garden this aft

aww fox, glad to hear she's doing ok.

my new girlie is going to be "done" very shortly, she's booked in for thursday *bites nails anxiously, despite knowing she'll probably be fine*

aww fox, glad to hear she's doing ok.

my new girlie is going to be "done" very shortly, she's booked in for thursday *bites nails anxiously, despite knowing she'll probably be fine*

pt we had a neck thingy for her. She didn't need it. Day one she slept all day, day two she grabbed the sheets off the bed to wake me up, today she is back to her normal self. She has a check up on tues. but they are dissolving stitches so all is well, no redness, swelling and she's eating well :)

Ahem, Porscha has just kicked me out of bed and is cuddled up to my OH.. :(
Staffys are total girls who want to lounge, be loved and cuddled... such vicious beasts ... NOT!

btw, her spay went fine, she was digging in the garden this aft

thankyou for doing the responsable thing ,i wish others would do the same, glad to hear everything went ok & she is getting back to normal !!

Theres far to many dogs of all breeds in rescue :( Lots are bred just for money.

If youu are still thinking of breeding him make sure he has all the breed relevant health tests first.

If you are thinking about getting a Staffie, you only need go to the dog pound. Yet another fashion accessory being binned. Poor souls.

we went down to the sheffield city council pound yesterday to take photos for the rainrescue website, hoping to get some of these poor souls rehomed. 98% of those dogs in the pound were staffies or staffy crosses, but all such gorgeous dogs with not a bad bone in it's body. it is the same story whichever rescue centre you look in at the moment:(, so very sad. Like magsie says, another fashion accessory that people have got bored with.

well my dog is a staffy from a rescue centre. and i am wanting to stud him as people who want staffys are available 2 get 1 in my area. i also do volentry work on a sat at a dog pound. there are lots of wonderful dogs that need re-homing but there is nothing wrong with wanting to stud my dog he is a handsome chap!!

yes hes a handsome chap but so are the ones in the pound. and think of those handsome puppies in kennels unloved and potentially destroyed. tell the people who want staffies to get themselves to the pound for one theres tonnes! plus if your dogs a rescue youd probably be breaking the rules of adoption breeding him. please for the sake of the poor dogs dont breed him just enjoy him.

Surely no sensible person who has ever been in a dog pound would breed more staffy's - I can't believe that.

All rescue centres have a clause that you can't breed from any dog they adopt to you - where did u get him from?

Why not use your efforts to explain to those people who want staffy puppys' to go and look at the pound - that would be much better use of your time and efforts.

Surely anyone who has been in a dog pound would try and do everything they could to help the dogs in there, not add to the ever growing number of staffys in the pounds, with a fair few of these being put to sleep daily :(. With the problem of staffys in rescue centres at the moment, I think that anyone who does breed at the moment is not thinking of the breed but purely of the profit and obviously not of the welfare for the potential puppies. There are of course exceptions to the rule, but as a nation of animal lovers we should be trying to sort out the problem, not adding to it.

Totally agree. It is madness to breed animals when the same animals are being abandoned and ultimately put down, not to mention the poor bitch who has to undergo the multiple births. Money is a great enticer.

Surely no sensible person who has ever been in a dog pound would breed more staffy's - I can't believe that.

All rescue centres have a clause that you can't breed from any dog they adopt to you - where did u get him from?

Why not use your efforts to explain to those people who want staffy puppys' to go and look at the pound - that would be much better use of your time and efforts.

Say's it all really, infact you should change it to only a pretty bloody stupid person.

Say's it all really, infact you should change it to only a pretty bloody stupid person.

Totally agree!

Anthonyhall, could you live with yourself thinking where the majority of your handsome chaps puppies will end up?.
Consider the following
Are you prepared to follow the pups up in their new homes and take them back if problems arise. (bearing in mind you could end up with the full litter back when the dog goes out of fashion)
Are you having your dog checked out for genetic diseases that may be passed on to the puppies. If you answer YES then you are being a responsible dog owner and breeder. If you answer No and continue anyway then you are an uncaring dog owner adding to an already huge problem

Why are there so many Staffies then?

Just a Staffy Cross.

Today is just another day - to me they're all the same
I have the worst of genes you see, I bear the "Staffy" shame.
The shame is in our numbers, there's thousands with no home.
Thousands just like me you'll find, in kennels all alone.

My mum was "just a Staffy", my father - well who knows?
Mum, too, became unwanted, as the last puppy goes.
And then begins the process, of money-making deals
A life of "moving on" unfolds, who cares how the Staffy feels?
If you have the cash to hand, the Staffy pup is yours
But that pup is getting bigger now, just look at those big paws.

You brought me for your image, thought I'd make you look more tough
But you'll find my boisterous nature has already got too much.
If you had thought to train me, with kindness and with praise
You would have had a faithful friend to share your darkest days.
I would lay down my life for you, but you simply cannot see
You make sure you get your money back on what you paid for me.

And on it goes, until one day, I'm no longer worth a dime
The retail on an adult staff - not worth the waste of time.
So what happens to a Staffy now? Do you really want to know?
Do you care what will become of us, when we leave our final home?

Have you ever thought to wonder, "Where is that Staffy now?"
The "Staffy" has another name; he's become a "stray" somehow.
Me, I was put into a car and driven far away
The door held open, I jumped out, I thought to run and play.
It was with joy and happy heart I turned to look for you
You drove away with all my trust and a piece of my heart too.

I wondered round for many days before I was brought here.
Now I wait with heavy heart, trepidation and with fear.
Seven days is all I have you see, seven days for you to claim
The little dog that you threw out, for which you have no shame.

This is my last goodbye now my seven days are up
If only more thought had gone into the future of that pup
As the needle empties to my veins I lay down with one last sigh
I'm sorry I was born a Staffy, because it means that I must die.

take a look at this website (http://www.staffycross.org/staffyxintro.htm) and I hope you will reconsider

if that doesnt change your mind...

It's a very honest picture of the situation staffys and staffy x's are in at the moment.

My girl is a pain in the bum sometimes but also adorable and loving, however even though she is beautiful (as has been said to me in the park by people who previously thought the breed was ugly) I wouldn't have considered breeding from her, hence her spay.

Slimsid

the reason there are so many staffys in pounds is for a number of reasons.

They are the latest 2000 'macho' dog. ie - all those people who have very tiny egos - and want to look as though they are 'tough' bought staffy's over the last few years. Then their mates must have thought they did look tough - oh and in the mean time, you can also earn yourself a few hundred quid by letting them have a litter of puppies and flogging off them to all your mates.

Dog fighting throughout the uk is prolific. Don't be mis-guided into thinking this doesn't happen. IT DOES - in every single city in the country. These disgusting people use many breeds but bull breeds are often high on the list of favourites due to their inherent fighting instincts.

Also often the people who own these dogs - don't have fantastically fenced in gardens. Randy and bored, usually because the family have lots of other pets/kids/hobbies - the junior male staffy decides to look for its own 'entertainment' because it NEVER gets taken for a proper walk. Just to the local street corner and back doesn't use much energy up. So, said male staffy goes out, and finds as many un-speyed females in the area - hence the many 'staffy crosses' out there - who also have lots of puppies - and whose owners don't ever get the bitches speyed.

This mixed breeding has diluted down the true staffy - which is why most of the pounds are full of staffy crosses - and just a handful of the original staffords.

The above is a very very sweeping statement and in no way - is aimed at a proper genuine owner and lover of staffy's. Its just that those owners as quoted above - are the ones that have put the breed in disrepute and in a now crisis situation. Stamp out those owners - and the breed can recover hopefully - but no doubt they would then change onto the next fashionable 'accessory'. You don't see many stood on the street corners with 'toy poodles do you.

Rainrescue:- (*PT dons her "innocent face") you mean to tell us that it's only their EGOES that are small?

Ha!
i do try to be polite sometimes, and not print always what i think
i don't know why i rant on - because most of it is preaching to the converted -
i don't suppose they will sit and read through will they.

oh well - if we can stop a few litters this way - its worth it isn't it.

i remember bumping into someone with a gorgeous staffy puppy and talking to her and she mentioned her bf was going to breed him. i did my best to persuade her gently by telling her the crisis they were in and she looked a bit shocked but still just said ooh well hes my bfs. it got me so mad i wish these people could see what they are doing to this beautiful breed. i dont expect they care though

Ignorance is bliss isn't it? How can you possibly admit to owning a RESCUE dog, of ANY breed, then in the same post saying you basically don't see anything wrong in breeding it, are you INSANE?

I can't help but think this is a bit of a wind up myself :suspect: :rolleyes:

Ignorance is bliss isn't it? How can you possibly admit to owning a RESCUE dog, of ANY breed, then in the same post saying you basically don't see anything wrong in breeding it, are you INSANE?

Yup! And, as "doublewood" is so fond of saying, "If ignorance is bliss, then there are a heck of a lot of blissful people wandering around!"

P* "Responsible Owner:- MY girlie is spayed and I'm proud of it!" *T

i remember bumping into someone with a gorgeous staffy puppy and talking to her and she mentioned her bf was going to breed him. i did my best to persuade her gently by telling her the crisis they were in and she looked a bit shocked but still just said ooh well hes my bfs. it got me so mad i wish these people could see what they are doing to this beautiful breed. i dont expect they care though

you'd be amazed how many people I know who've got a staffy and all said the same thing- I try to talk them out of it but you can tell it's going in one ear and out the next, meantime, they're thinking of the money they can get from churning a few more out, blatant disregard for their bitche's health or the plight of staffies in rescues up n down the country...

We have 2 staffy's now a male and our new lovely pup Layla. Santino was from a friend thats bitch had pups they had the parents of him 'done' after. He is gorgeous and I don't regret getting him as we didn't realize how many were in pounds not until rainsrescue highlighted it on Sheffield forum.We actually feel guilty by not going down the rescue before we got him.We were getting them both doctored on Monday but now have to wait until the kennel cough has gone.

I would be worried also of 'who' would be getting the pups obviously these people aren't they are just greedy and have no respect for animals:rant: