View Full Version : Trick or treat, Penny for the guy and carol singers
Do you tip these kids?
If so, how much.
Or do ignore them by not answering the door?
If we ever join Euro, what will the penny for the guy be called?
kittykat 04-10-2003, 22:53 I dont give penny for the guy anything cos i used to make guys and no-one never gave me anything - unless the kids looks praticularly needy OR the guy theyve made looks like theyve put a lot of effort in and look younger than 10. I give the trick or treaters sweets ONLY if theyre anything below 13 - anything over and its just sad. Carol singers get something if i can be bothered to get up and answer the door to them.
It is tough isnt it
I try to get sweets in for Halloween
and I give kids a few bob for singing, but I have to admit to being a sadist, I INSIST they actually sing a carol before I cough up
I am always amazed that despite nativities in schools and carol singing in the local church etc, all the kids do it, that so few of them know the words!
xxxxxx
baked some cakes once,no ones been back since,:blush:
kittykat 04-10-2003, 23:51 we usually give them all our out of date crips left over in the cupboard from the rest of the year and they always come back
Trick or treaters are supposed to get sweets and candies not money. I don't ever remember Trick or Treat on Halloween night when I lived in England. Must be an American thing. Do they do it in England now? It's huge over here but there are some sickos that put metal shavings in the sweets. The emergency wards at local hospitals will x-ray your kids' stash. People don't let their kids accept anything baked or isn't in a wrapper and unopened.
F***ing sad individuals out there.
Anyway, we get dressed up at work and have pumpkin carving contests. It's the most enjoyable event other than Christmas for kids. I like being a big kid too. I get to eat all the left over sweets!:lol:
I miss Bonfire night a lot.
8) Having two big dogs seems to keep the little darlings away
it's scrounging!
and it's a pain in the a*se :evil:
Trick or treat never really seemed to happen when I was a nipper, that seems to have taken off due to it's popularity in the States I suppose?
I once foxed some young urchin who came running up with a dew drop hanging from his nose and thrust his grubby little mitt out demanding 'Penny for the guy mister' - I gave him a penny and said that the guy was now mine, because he'd asked for a penny for it and I'd paid him. He started crying so I jogged off :blush: :D
Well it seemed funny at the time....
Once had 2 young girls come trick or treating. I pointed out that it wasn't 'til the next night and they replied 'ay, but we go ice skating tomorrow'.
Tip: point to your neighbours car and say 'I'm not giving you anything and if anything happens to my car I'll know who did it'.
Fruit is always popular with kids. I've never seen the same lot twice.
Guys, never give to them as the clothes generally look in better condition than mine and I doubt if their mothers will allow them to be burnt.
Thank you for listening.
Well what a miserable lot u are.
I must admit before I had kids I didn't go to the door on halloween :blush:
Now me and the hubby get dressed up and go round with the kids, that way we're out when all those pesky youngsters come ringing the doorbell.
Funke88 how nasty can people get. I would have thought that was attempted murder or perhaps you were joking.
Originally posted by John
Do you tip these kids?
If so, how much.
Or do ignore them by not answering the door?
If we ever join Euro, what will the penny for the guy be called?
I do not encourage little children to go begging by knocking on everybodys door especially on dark nights and their parents should be ashamed of themselves by allowing it, knowing of the dangers of pedophiles and sexual perverts.
DaBouncer 06-10-2003, 09:53 one of my pals offered these kids £1 each if he could volley the guy they had 'made' up and down the local shops.
They agreed, but there friend inside the guy costume didn't seem to like the idea, as he got up and ran off. We knew someone was in the costume, we just wanted to see how far they would go.
Don't think they made any money for the rest of that day on those shops.
So funny!
Moon Maiden 06-10-2003, 10:47 Trick or treating is has it's roots in britian guys! Sorry. The yanks have gone and twisted it - the superstitions were probably taken over there by Irish immigrants. One of it's sources is from Scorland.
In Scottland "Guising" is a different matter, this is an old tradition, (now under threat cos of the trick/treat idea)they used to go around as fetches (ghosts) goblins, brownies and fairies and other night/deep woodland creatures of highland myth. They visited for treats, as it was thought to be kind to these representations brought good luck, but they didn't 'trick' if they were turned away, that was left to the fairies and brownies later in the deep dark of winter.
Another is alleged to be assiociated with devils night (30th October). There were said to be "dark days" around the time, when the veil between the worlds was thinner and it was considered chancy to be abroad at nights. Souls were taken as prey by the cailleach, who strode mountains, half old woman, sometimes half beautiful young girl, recognisable by her horned hooves, and babes born then were bound about by charms and luckings, to protect them from the wights who rode the night winds looking for vulnerable souls.
Rowan twigs were hung from doorways and thresholds to protect the homes from "the devil" (aka horned god) who would knock the doors asking for succour for the night. If you folowed old ways, you`d leave food and drink on the doorstep for him, if you were christian you`d hide til morning, if you were plain daft you`d open the door and invite him in..... when he`d eat at your table then leave with the weakest soul in the room!
Carol singing - it would be nice to get kids who would actually sing more than one vrese of "we wish you a merry christmas".
Penny for the guy!! I generally don't give kids a penny or a pound or anything in between cos most haven't even bothered to make one properly. They are just plain money grabbing. I got asked over a month ago for a penny??? :o
Moon
I'd never heard of 'penny for the guy' before I came to Sheffield, it must be a local thing. I generally don't give them anything, but if they pester me enough I'll give them a few coppers just to shut them up. Pesky kids!! :twisted:
Oct 31 will be a busy time for you Moon will it? :D
Moon Maiden 06-10-2003, 13:27 Originally posted by Mo
Oct 31 will be a busy time for you Moon will it? :D
yes it will :D
Samhuin (pronounced soween) is the end of our year so we have a big celebration with friends and loved ones remembering those that have left us over the years! There are a few things happening in Sheff this year but I haven't made my mind up how we are doing thing.
Moon
Classic Rock 06-10-2003, 15:08 We don't get kids in the pub (thankfully!) so I usually get out of it. I used to give the kids sweets (or if I couldn't be bothered, I'd go out and take the car with me!!!)
Carol singing - I agree, the kids MUST sing songs to get money (small amount - bah humbug) or I just ignore them and pretend not to be in, depends on the mood or what I'm doing. If I'm in the Xmas spirit I fling the door open and smile warmly at them and conduct them on my doorstep......have you noticed how, the minute you open the door, they stop and stick out their hands awaiting payment!!! I make them carry on singing.
Penny for the Guy. This is purely begging with no effort, and most kids latch on to others to do it. Some don't even have a guy and still come knocking and asking for cash. At the risk of sounding sexist, I've noticed that it's only young lads that do this. I've seriously never seen a girl do penny for the guy. Halloween and Carol singing can be either sex. And before you start having a go at me about being sexist, I'm only making an observation about what I've noticed in my own experience of opening the door or being collared outside the corner shop.
Perhaps building bonfires and stuffing clothes with straw is more of a male occupation.....
I think it's the setting fire to people which is the male occupation. :D
Originally posted by Classic Rock
We don't get kids in the pub (thankfully!) so I usually get out of it. I used to give the kids sweets (or if I couldn't be bothered, I'd go out and take the car with me!!!)
Carol singing - I agree, the kids MUST sing songs to get money (small amount - bah humbug) or I just ignore them and pretend not to be in, depends on the mood or what I'm doing. If I'm in the Xmas spirit I fling the door open and smile warmly at them and conduct them on my doorstep......have you noticed how, the minute you open the door, they stop and stick out their hands awaiting payment!!! I make them carry on singing.
Penny for the Guy. This is purely begging with no effort, and most kids latch on to others to do it. Some don't even have a guy and still come knocking and asking for cash. At the risk of sounding sexist, I've noticed that it's only young lads that do this. I've seriously never seen a girl do penny for the guy. Halloween and Carol singing can be either sex. And before you start having a go at me about being sexist, I'm only making an observation about what I've noticed in my own experience of opening the door or being collared outside the corner shop.
Perhaps building bonfires and stuffing clothes with straw is more of a male occupation.....
I've seen loads of girls doing it. Especially near the Bramall Lane petrol station.
Originally posted by Mo
Funke88 how nasty can people get. I would have thought that was attempted murder or perhaps you were joking.
No sorry, I'm being deadly serious. I wish I was joking :(
However, we live in a nice neighbourhood and the kids around here are great. They dress up and all the houses decorate with pumpkins and orange lights. Some people also put cobwebs and and skeletons dangling in their trees. Parents usually walk their kids around the streets. Kids never go around on their own. I look before I open the door also. If its a bunch of teenagers I'm usually extra nice. I might get my house covered in rolls of toilet paper and dog poop through the letter box. Its a cut throat business. All good fun but I never give out anything homemade. Parents will only throw it out for fear of kids getting poisoned!!!Can't blame them for being careful. Money is never ever given. Only treats. I love the parents that bring babies dressed as little pumpkins and fairies. Ahhhh. I usually dress up as a gypsy fortune teller with a long black wig and lots of dangly jewelery. You know my usual Friday night garb!!
I'll let you know if I hear of any horror stories. I will keep my ginger tom cat in for a week before that night. They do nasty things to cats too on Halloween.
There are some sick fu**ers out there I'm telling you. :evil:
Originally posted by Moon Maiden
Trick or treating is has it's roots in britian guys! Sorry. The yanks have gone and twisted it - the superstitions were probably taken over there by Irish immigrants. One of it's sources is from Scorland.
Moon
You know, I knew it had British roots, however it's so close to Bonfire night that when we were kids we never ever went Trick or Treating. I'd never heard of that until I moved here. The most we ever did when I was young was carve a turnip and put it in the window with a candle inside. The first time I got a Trick or treater over here I was clueless?? And very true, the yanks twist everything to suit themselves. They like an excuse to celebrate anything. If it's a holiday of any kind, they'll get out the fireworks and light up the BBQ. Pity they haven't discovered Bonfire night. When I tell them about burning an efergy of Guy Fawkes they think we Brits are barbarians. LOL that's a laugh!
"Penny for the Guy." they said...
"What guy?" I inquired.
"THE Guy." said the leader.
"That guy?" I asked, pointing to the track suit plus recycled halloween werewolf mask in the shopping trolley.
"Yes, that one."
"Why, who is he?"
A moment of consternation... "Guy Fawkes." prompted little sister, in a far too loud whisper.
"Guy Fawkes." he confidently announced.
"Oh, and who's he then?"
Another blank look. Little sister, evidently the brains of the outfit, decides to take over. "He invented fireworks and got burned to death."
"And he was a werewolf?"
"Ermmm..."
"OK, but he's dead, yes?"
"Yes."
"And he needs a penny for...?"
"To buy fireworks for the 5th of November."
"Why?"
"That was Guy Fawkes' birthday, so we have a fireworks party."
I gave them a couple of quid and told them to make sure it went towards their fireworks party, and to ask their parents to explain what it's really about. I expect it has already been spent on sweets. Maybe they won't ask their parents. Maybe they're too young to understand the historical importance of the gunpowder plot. Maybe their parents are oblivious to it and couldn't explain even if they are asked. Maybe it isn't important anymore and, like halloween, is just a label for a meaningless party. Maybe I'm just being an old fart.
:o
Classic Rock 10-10-2003, 09:57 What a good idea! Ask the kids what the guy is and who Guy Fawkes was.
Typical of the Brits to celebrate the fact that the Houses of Parliament were NOT blown up.
Maybe we've just found a good use for all those fake pound coins in another thread!
With regards to Trick or Treaters, I am quite generous especially if they have made the effort to dress up. It reminds me of happy childhood memories.
ladyovmanor 02-11-2004, 08:36 hi i dont know about you but i am sick of the kids outside shops with a poor atempt of a guy, they are about 13 years old if not older,or if they are younger, and kids at 3 or 4" WHERE ARE YOU PARENTS !!!!"(it really makes me boil)
I KNOW WHAT YOUR THINKING STILL TAKING KIDS TO SCHOOL AT 15 BUT THE WORLD TODAY AINT SAFE.....
I might sound grumpy but i would like to go to a shop without being asked a penny for the guy,( on the way in and out) and if you do give them something why do they always expect more ????????????/:rant: :rant: :confused:
how else are they gonna buy their fags n drugs..come on have a heart:)
It would be ok if they did really only expect a penny!! Theyd throw it back at you if you put any less than a fiver in!!!
ladyovmanor 02-11-2004, 08:44 my point ..
why not say £1 for the guy as any less they just be RUDE
I like it when they put a mask on a younger brother or sister and get them to sit still pretending to be a guy.
I started a thread about this earlier, I can't believe parent let their kids hang about outside pubs at night.
Originally posted by nick2
I can't believe parent let their kids hang about outside pubs at night.
its ok the parents of these urchins are in the pub so they are quite safe......when their excuse for "parents" run out of money they just tap the kids........:thumbsup:
ladyovmanor 02-11-2004, 08:53 I just dont get it what are going through these peoples heads? No wonder so many kids are getting snatched in todays world, know its not the kiddys fault but come on parents your not helping , why does things always have to happen to make people think ???
DaBouncer 02-11-2004, 08:53 My brother does a nice trick by offering £2 to volley the guy in the head.
This usually puts off those who've dressed up their relatives/mates up as the guy.
Those that accept end up with a mangled guy who wont make any money!
Jobs a good un!
Robbie Loving 02-11-2004, 10:39 i can see bar 101 open now with the trick or treaters inside, drinking alcopops:clap:
If they ask me for a penny for the guy then I ask them for the money. Guess what my last name is. Need a clue? It isn't Fawkes:wave:
im surprised the pc mob havent put a stop to it....making money out of a minority person,s ( catholic ) misfortune surely there is an "ism" some where in here..time to create another minister maybe ?
Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
i can see bar 101 open now with the trick or treaters inside, drinking alcopops:clap:
i bet they not sat down because the last time i was in they only had 3 chairs:o
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