View Full Version : Do Wednesday Have The Worst Board In Their History?
Frank Sidney 21-05-2008, 17:50 Leaving aside results on the pitch, just consider all the other nonesense.
The take over farce, the legal action against fans, the crazy pricing policy, the photo I.D. scheme etc. Consider these.
All football fans please vote, but try not to be biast, imagine if they ran your club:o
Wednesday have the unenviable record of having some quite unbelievable boardroom members but the present line up takes some beating. Obviously only a bitter blade would say they were the best thing to happen to Wednesday and there is only one answer to the question really and I don't need to spell it out. :mad:
canadablade 21-05-2008, 18:45 Wednesday have the unenviable record of having some quite unbelievable boardroom members but the present line up takes some beating. Obviously only a bitter blade would say they were the best thing to happen to Wednesday and there is only one answer to the question really and I don't need to spell it out. :mad:
Why did you have to include "ONLY A BITTER BLADE"
Did the question asked have anything at all to do with the Blades...NO it asked about THE SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY BOARD :loopy::loopy:
Did anyone say anything like your above statement when the bitter pigs were saying Robson was the best thing to happen to the Blades :gag::suspect:
RayOberstein 21-05-2008, 20:10 Why did you have to include "ONLY A BITTER BLADE"
Did the question asked have anything at all to do with the Blades...NO it asked about THE SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY BOARD :loopy::loopy:
Did anyone say anything like your above statement when the bitter pigs were saying Robson was the best thing to happen to the Blades :gag::suspect:
Oh you are bitter
canadablade 21-05-2008, 20:38 Oh you are bitter
Coming from Roy Orbison I'll take that as a compliment :roll::roll:
NERVY-OWL 21-05-2008, 20:41 cb, plenty of blades have digs at wednesday when its nothing to do with the thread, never complain about that do you:P
Agent Gypo 21-05-2008, 23:18 I'm not so sure Wednesday's present board is it's worst ever. It seems the club has suffered from many years of mismanagement.
But no, I wouldn't want them anywhere near my club.
bladebloke 22-05-2008, 06:44 i think they were the best thing to happen to Wednesday.
The Manager 22-05-2008, 08:41 Well the worst ever has to be LEEDS board, When they went into major debt!!
Owls board maybe 2nd worst tho:hihi::hihi:
F. Sidebottom 22-05-2008, 08:57 I don't really think you can say.
I know the season ticket increase is a very bad decision. But they have been under a Chairman for some time who has now walked. I know they were party to a lot of decisions, but I would have thought that most decisions would have been made by Dave Allen, and he's now gone.
The lot that are there and running it now haven't really shown what they are about yet.
And I wouldn't be suprised if they were actually being managed by Kaven Walker instead of the other way round!!!??!!
So overall, I don't know - but I'm not hopeful that they will be anything to be proud of.
alex3659 22-05-2008, 11:52 It may be a case of the present board being left in the poo by previous boards, and the problem goes back a long way .
Stockers 22-05-2008, 11:52 The Wednesday Board at the moment are pretty poor but so are many Chairmen all over the Country.
In the 90's we had terrible Chairmen, Reg Brearly selling any decent player we had, Paul Woolhouse went on the run and is still a wanted man, Stephen Hinchcliffe was jailed for fraud, Carlo Collombotti telling us about all his links with Inter Milan, Mike McDonald was a Man City fans who hated the club after an initial honeymoon period.
The current Wednesday Board are dealing with the mismanagement of Dave Richards, a number of fans hate Dave Allen and Kevan Walker and they're not helping themselves putting up season ticket prices and sueing fans.
The Wednesday board are no brilliant but at the end of the Dave i'm sure without Dave Allens money the club could have been in serious trouble.
freyasdad 22-05-2008, 12:35 Surely the worst board in s6 history got rid of ( have we forgotten already) Sir Derek.
chuffinel 22-05-2008, 13:55 Why did you have to include "ONLY A BITTER BLADE"
Did the question asked have anything at all to do with the Blades...NO it asked about THE SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY BOARD :loopy::loopy:
Did anyone say anything like your above statement when the bitter pigs were saying Robson was the best thing to happen to the Blades :gag::suspect:
Yes, but you have to understand CB that some Owls have .................................................. ............
a,cough,cough, obsession with United. :hihi::hihi:
Couldn't resist.
I think that the root cause of the present problems was the decissions made by the previous board under Dave Richards. Bad appiontments made after David Pleat was sacked and the resulting poor signings on inflated wages. When the drop inevitabley came we had loads of signings we had to get rid of, hence all the free transfers etc. just to cut the wage bill. Some of those contracts I believe Wednesday must still be paying for.
The board and Dave Allen should not be blamed for the present situation. However there are some questionable decissions:
There's not been a straight answer to the Paul Sturrock fiasco; given a contract with one hand then sacked with the other.
ID cards?
Season tickets?
Suing supporters?
Calling supporters names at press conferences?
The way the great training ground sell off was handled?
The board seems to sit back and let Kevan Walker run everything as a sort of acting chairman with no real leadership.
At present the club seems totally out of touch with its grass root supporters and I can't see any takeover on the horizon.
And now I'm all depressed. :(
Nick_Blade 22-05-2008, 15:24 I think they are a great board for wednesday, thats why I voted :)
Charlie Chuck 22-05-2008, 15:40 I wouldn't be surprised if Dave Allen is still barking his orders through Kaven Walker.
chuffinel 22-05-2008, 17:05 I think that the root cause of the present problems was the decissions made by the previous board under Dave Richards. Bad appiontments made after David Pleat was sacked and the resulting poor signings on inflated wages. When the drop inevitabley came we had loads of signings we had to get rid of, hence all the free transfers etc. just to cut the wage bill. Some of those contracts I believe Wednesday must still be paying for.
The board and Dave Allen should not be blamed for the present situation. However there are some questionable decissions:
There's not been a straight answer to the Paul Sturrock fiasco; given a contract with one hand then sacked with the other.
ID cards?
Season tickets?
Suing supporters?
Calling supporters names at press conferences?
The way the great training ground sell off was handled?
The board seems to sit back and let Kevan Walker run everything as a sort of acting chairman with no real leadership.
At present the club seems totally out of touch with its grass root supporters and I can't see any takeover on the horizon.
Good post with some good points Pegasus.
Something similar was discussed a couple of years or so ago on here and one thing that I believed (and still do) was that Wednesday had become victims of their relative success.
Some of us Blades can deny it all we wish but the fact is, until some years ago, Wednesday were a far more progressive and forward thinking club than United.
Before I left Sheffield in 1967, the Blades were very conservative and seemed to give the impression that all they were bothered about was turning a profit whereas the Owls were more adventuresome on and off the playing field.
The building of the cantilever stand was a case in point.
As it stands today, and in hindsight, maybe United's approach at that time was correct for their circumstances.
I don't know whether this board of yours is the worst ever but it must be one of them.
Maybe it's some kind of mindset that's been passed on down through the years that the good times would go on for ever, which might have been so if the game hadn't become such a big business.
NERVY-OWL 22-05-2008, 17:27 i agree with what pegasus says really. although the current board arent great alot of problems started in the dave richards era, obviously spending big to make progress in the prem league and improving the stadium left us with the huge debt. i was never a allen fan but he did seem to get the finances in a bit of order and without him we may of gone into administration by now. the current board need to go but all the problems wednesday have at the moment arent down to them i dont think
Charlie Chuck 22-05-2008, 19:32 Richards first big mistake was sacking Atkinson in his second spell at Wednesday, just for the sake of his own ego to get back at Atkinson for the time he went to Villa, this was after Atkinson had turned what looked like a relagation season into a mid table finish, think he took over around the christmas period, turned it around and got the players playing for him, he said the following season would have needed just three or four top signings for a top four finish so Richards goes and sacks him, Sir David Richards :loopy: who nominated him for that.
Frank Sidney 22-05-2008, 19:48 I understand that Dave Richards got the club into a lot of trouble. That's why I said ignore what's happenning on the pitch. There's no money for players and the board can't be responsible for this. I started the thread in response to the way the board treats the fans, as mentioned by numerous good posts.
Leaving aside results on the pitch, just consider all the other nonesense.
The take over farce, the legal action against fans, the crazy pricing policy, the photo I.D. scheme etc. Consider these.
All football fans please vote, but try not to be biast, imagine if they ran your club:oIn the 38 years ive been a wednesdayite... the past few seasons have been the worst for me from the boards point of view... ive worked there... not a nice place to work... they have little respect for the supporters.... im no fan of Kaven Walker... when i was there he spoke to people like:gag: i can stand the fact that i support my club through the bad times.... but thats the 11 lads on the pitch... not the board.
EDIT:
who do we blame for the clubs fall....
we now sign average players the club puts up season tickets, what happened to the takeover, the club dont dont wanna know what the supporters think/say, still 27 million pound in debt, this club is a shambles, were a selling club without any prospects (without a owner) but who will buy this club with a board that doesnt listen to the fans??? and sells the best players????
Proud to be a wednesdayite??? dont make me laugh.
freyasdad 22-05-2008, 22:23 Initially it is absolutely hillarious reading all the posts over the last months or so describing the condition of SWFC.
I remember someone who i worked with waving his European adventure flag in the faces of United fans waiting to get in to our kop and laughing his b---s off at the state of the 2 clubs.
Funny how times change but now older and hopefully wiser it even annoys me watching what is happeneing down at s6.
When we are constantly fighting that laothsome city up the M1 on various fronts it does Sheffield no good to see Wednesday in the state they are in.
By the way nice to be back, the holliday was excellent and cant wait for the new season.
bladebloke 23-05-2008, 06:53 Richards first big mistake was sacking Atkinson in his second spell at Wednesday, just for the sake of his own ego to get back at Atkinson for the time he went to Villa, this was after Atkinson had turned what looked like a relagation season into a mid table finish, think he took over around the christmas period, turned it around and got the players playing for him, he said the following season would have needed just three or four top signings for a top four finish so Richards goes and sacks him, Sir David Richards :loopy: who nominated him for that.
a mate of mine played for wendy back then. a couple of seasons for the reserves and about half a dozen first team appearances. atkinson called him into his office with another young player and their parents to tell them they wer'nt quite what they they were looking for and were being released. straight after the interview atkinson was called to the chairmans office and sacked. i've heard he talks about this in his book saying the board got him to tell 2 young kids and their parents the bad news cos they didnt have the arse to do it themselfs but then got great pleasure in sacking him.
If we make a comparison with United's board we can see that they have clear leadership at the top. Good leadership creates a vision and something to aim for. Its no good having rich owners etc. without good leadership and a clear vision about what the club is doing:
How it behaves towards its customers its employees and it suppliers. Treat people like s**t and they'll treat your organisation like s**t, pay people peanuts and you'll get monkeys. Good behaviour towards evryone associated with the club breeds loyalty.
The environment it creates; not just good conditions but the atmosphere, you know that when you enjoy working for a particular organisation then you work better and are willing to make the organisation better.
Its products and services; should always strive for the highest quality standards and not the lowest prices, people would not mind paying higher prices for season tickets if they are getting value for money and a high quality product and I'm not just talking about the football on the pitch but facilities etc.
Lastly is communication; poor communication leads to poor organisation and leadership if you can't communicate in an appropriate way if you can't communicate your vision then there is no leadership.
Forget the debt as that is being managed. What Wednesday are lacking is good leadership giving a clear vision for the future. Thats why United as an organisation are at present out performing Wednesday.
crookesey 28-05-2008, 11:30 Why did you have to include "ONLY A BITTER BLADE"
Did the question asked have anything at all to do with the Blades...NO it asked about THE SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY BOARD :loopy::loopy:
Did anyone say anything like your above statement when the bitter pigs were saying Robson was the best thing to happen to the Blades :gag::suspect:
As most of your posts are of the anti Wednesday variety would you care to elaborate? :huh:
Earwiggo 01-06-2008, 10:24 I strongly support the things Charlie Chuck, Mad Owl and Pegasus have posted.
Dave Richards and his board did really well for Wedneday at the outset.
Sacking Ron Atkinson was THE worst decision ever made at Hillsborough.
After this, the Dave Richards board couldn't run a bath!
I don't know how many of them are still involved at Wed.
Dave Allen without doubt saved us and his money and financial promises kept the bank off our backs thoughout his tenure. The big fault with DA was, after a while, he thought he was Mr. Sheff. Wed, manager, chairman, coach, press officer etc, etc. He only owned 10% of the club, and it was, I feel, the lack of bottle amongst the other board members, to question any of DA's decisions, to push for improved funding and guidance, that has held Wednesday back by possibly 20 points a season.
We are a rudderless ship drifting around a fleet of other rudderless ships, a few of which have no captains on board. The good news is, I think, Brian Laws and the boys will overcome this problem and steer Wednesday to a much safer position next year. Some, if not all of the current board HAVE to be replaced quite soon.... investment?.....none in sight.... although we have been told a few times, "a take over could be in place within the month".
I ask, which month and which year?
Frank Sidney 07-06-2008, 20:21 Talking to my brother today he said we have sold 3,000 season tickets, the worst total for decades. We really need shut of the useless set who are running the club. I'd sooner have the Chuckle Brothers running the club. Businessmen? what a joke!
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