Ive noticed a lot of Newspaper snobbery on threads .... other forumers accusing another of reading a certain newspaper (and meaning it as an insult) another poster blaming every problem in the world on the Daily Mail .... and on another thread, someone saying they'd be too embarrassed to buy the sun.

I have the Sun delivered every morning, the Evening Star three nights per week and the Guardian 1 day a week. .......... Is that shamefull reading? is it a sin to read the Sun

Im sure someones going to toddle along soon to analyse my reading material :)


what do you read and are you embarrassed about it?

I have read allsorts in the past but now never really bother because I don't feel any of them are for me.

Daily Mail seems to be for anyone who is mad at the world and wants winding up even more.

The Sun is only readable on a Saturday for Jeremy Clarkson's column and the TV guide.

I'd say The Times is the best of the rest

I have the Sun delivered every morning, the Evening Star three nights per week and the Guardian 1 day a week. .......... Is that shamefull reading? is it a sin to read the Sun


No but the Sun isn't a newspaper - its a hateful right wing rag spouting the views of the Dirty Digger himself - oh - and throw in a page for the pervs as well

another poster blaming every problem in the world on the Daily Mail

My bold in the quote, I assume you mean me?

No but the Sun isn't a newspaper - its a hateful right wing rag spouting the views of the Dirty Digger himself - oh - and throw in a page for the pervs as well

I like it. Would you rather me read the Socialist Worker?

Yes there is snobbery in papers, somepeople use something as little as reading a paper as a status simple. As with everything in life there are opinionate snobs who think only their choices are the right ones.

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My bold in the quote, I assume you mean me?


well, you are quite famous for your hatred of the mail :hihi: (but i didnt want to name names.

I read the Metro, but I used to read the Daily Express for the comics.. And very occassionally I'll buy a Daily Mirror.

From what I`ve seen of the Sun there is very little in it worth reading. I am not ashamed to say I read the Daily Mail. I think it is good value, with lots to read and think about (not necessarily to believe) and I like the quiz pages. I do not condemn anyone for their chosen paper, its their choice and none of my business. Its a pity more people don`t take that line.

I read the Guardian and the Times, and sometimes the Independent. My guilty pleasure is reading the Mail online, it's priceless, I love reading Richard Littlejohns small minded lunatic rants about gays, asylum seekers and political correctness gone mad!!!!! He is so bloody angry.

Rich, aren't the metro and Daily Mail the same paper pretty much? correct me if I'm wrong(probably am)

i read news websites. cant see the point of wasting money on tomorrows chip wrappers

I wouldn't call it newspaper snobbery.

Just because a different paper has a different set of attributes doesn't make it any 'better' or worse than the others, arguably; the role of the media (and of the different papers within it) is such a complex beast these days that I don't think the simplistic formulations - 'broadsheets are more reliable than tabloids', for example - are worth much anymore.

I am a big fan of the Guardian - the style just suits me. In my time I've read the Independent, the Times, the Sunday Times, News of the World, Daily Express and Daily Mirror, though.

I had to devise a filing system for press cuttings, so that they could be easily found.

I managed to offend a good few people in the team by having one section for "Gutter Press". It wasn't that they objected to my having such a section, they just didn't like me putting the newspapers they read into it :hihi:

I see no problem - I read the sun every lunchtime, I'll read the Guardian if I'm at home - purely because the broadsheets (and the berliner format) are just too awkward to read in a confined space like sat down in a sandwich bar. As long as you don't believe that everything you read is true, and look behind the bias which may or may not be present in the reporting, it's an easy read.

I use BBC news online loads, but its not very convenient when you're out somewhere!

i read news websites. cant see the point of wasting money on tomorrows chip wrappers

Just like me then.

yes i suffer from newspaper snobbery...i hate em all
only buy one when theres a dvd / cd in one i want :)

Just like me then.

the only sensible solution, mate! :D

having said that, i do buy new scientist, mainly cos their website is locked down if you dont have a subscription. must get round to sorting that. also buy private eye

The majority of the time I use the Internet for my source of news.
On the rare occasions I do buy and read a newspaper it is The Independent.

the only sensible solution, mate! :D

having said that, i do buy new scientist, mainly cos their website is locked down if you dont have a subscription. must get round to sorting that. also buy private eye

I wish NS had an on-line only subscription. The only way to get full internet access seems to be by having the paper edition shoved through your letterbox every week.

To be honest I don't know how working people find the time to read the broadsheets, - unless they're reading the paper instead of working.:suspect: I could never find the time except at weekends.

Since retirement I browse the on-line editions of the Times, Indy, Guardian and Telegraph while the missus reads out the hilarious bits from the Daily Mirror.

The web version of the Economist is worth a dip about once a week.

I wish NS had an on-line only subscription. The only way to get full internet access seems to be by having the paper edition shoved through your letterbox every week.

To be honest I don't know how working people find the time to read the broadsheets, - unless they're reading the paper instead of working.:suspect: I could never find the time except at weekends.

Since retirement I browse the on-line editions of the Times, Indy, Guardian and Telegraph while the missus reads out the hilarious bits from the Daily Mirror.

The web version of the Economist is worth a dip about once a week.

the hilarious bits of the mirror - that must take, oh, a second or two :hihi:

and cheers for the reminder, i must add the economist to my bookmarks

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To be honest I don't know how working people find the time to read the broadsheets, - unless they're reading the paper instead of working.:suspect: I could never find the time except at weekends.

I used to have a job that involved coming into work early and spending the first few hours of the day reading ALL the papers (all the big ones, anyway), cutting out the relevant articles and then doing various exciting things with pritt stick and a photocopier to get them distributed.

Just how a working day should start, I think :)

I used to have a job that involved coming into work early and spending the first few hours of the day reading ALL the papers (all the big ones, anyway), cutting out the relevant articles and then doing various exciting things with pritt stick and a photocopier to get them distributed.

Just how a working day should start, I think :)

Last year I did a similar job in Meadowhall Management Suite through the Supported Employment Project, they wanted me to trawl through the broadsheets, find ANY reference to Meadowhall in the paper, cut it out and stick it to a big piece of paper, unfortunately due to my poor dexterity I'm not very good at cutting and sticking stuff, so the job didn't last long, it was only a 3 month placement anyway.

Rich, Metro is just The Daily Mail but a few days late with the stories, so beware! It *does* have Nemi in it though and she's fab ;)

I'm a total newspaper snob! I'd never go and buy the Mail, Express, Sun, Star or Sport unless they had some freebie I wanted (the Mail is verrrry good at freebies!). But I also feel a bit embarrassed buying the Grauniad.

My snobbery doesn't come from the whole tabloid/broadsheet thing either as I like The Mirror - it gives a tabloid/celeb/TV/junk fix but with slightly longer words than The Sun, which I can flick through within five minutes - very poor value! Plus I don't like having tits in my newspaper!

I find the Mail very readable indeed and it's one of the sites I go on most, however I take every word with a huuuuuge pinch of salt - I know that their education stories are almost all BS so why should the rest be any more accurate? :suspect: Their 'human interest' stories are good though, as are the reviews, and the froth-mouthed rants on the letters page puts Bartfast to shame :D

The British press is well known for being amongst the most scurrilous in the world though, even worse than the US press! And the Daily Mail is particularly well known for existing purely to stir people up (it has also been known as Daily Hate and Daily Heil for sympathising with the Nazis prior to WWII) so people are wise to treat it with caution.

Ive noticed a lot of Newspaper snobbery on threads .... other forumers accusing another of reading a certain newspaper (and meaning it as an insult) another poster blaming every problem in the world on the Daily Mail .... and on another thread, someone saying they'd be too embarrassed to buy the sun.

I have the Sun delivered every morning, the Evening Star three nights per week and the Guardian 1 day a week. .......... Is that shamefull reading? is it a sin to read the Sun

Im sure someones going to toddle along soon to analyse my reading material :)


what do you read and are you embarrassed about it?

I don't read newspapers at all.

I tend to find that the people who are forever asking 'do you read the Daily Mail/Express?' etc. are the people who don't agree with your views politically. Either that or it's the 'you're a troll' card they try and play.

I don't read newspapers at all.

I tend to find that the people who are forever asking 'do you read the Daily Mail/Express?' etc. are the people who don't agree with your views politically. Either that or it's the 'you're a troll' card they try and play.

yes, if i've ever let it slip that I read the sun (hey, its like a grown ups comic) ... the horror and disapproving looks are quite intimidating, anyone would think I'd just commited murder :o

in fact ......... one placement i was on .... asked me to leave the newspaper in my car as it wasnt allowed on the premises (in the staff room) ............. honest

I read the sun purely because I can get through the entire thing in my lunch break. I don't for a second think its a quality paper though

I'm a Liverpool fan and so, like many Liverpool fans, I refuse to read the Sun on principle. There are other papers that I dislike which I will read occasionally, but with the Sun I refuse to even touch a copy or visit their website. It's a spiteful vicious comic that has played cheerleader to this authoritarian Labour government and is a vehicle for advancing Old Rupert's world view.

I rarely buy a paper copy of a newspaper unless I have a train journey to make and I don't have a book to read. I've got the Guardian, Times, Daily Mail, Telegraph and Independent bookmarked so I often visit their websites. However, I've just finished reading the excellent Flat Earth News (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Flat-Earth-News-Award-winning-Distortion/dp/0701181451/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211312577&sr=8-1) by Nick Davies and now I'm feeling quite depressed about the British media. It's an expose of the UK press, including how they've obsessively cut costs and now rely on widespread churnalism, getting most of their material from wire agencies or PR agencies. It goes on to detail how propaganda by the intelligence agencies frequently makes its way into the newspapers, how newspapers use private investigators to flagrantly break the law when getting a scoop and the pure spitefulness and dishonesty of the Daily Mail. I'd recommend it to anyone interested in newspapers.

I think that newspapers have had their day and the future lies in blogs. The signal-to-noise ratio of the blogosphere can be quite low, but you find a lot of things in blogs that don't make the papers. Bloggers have got the guts to say what the newspapers haven't and they've no obligation to keep their language civil. There are some great sweary bloggers out there. :)

I agree prettygood, Flat Earth News is a great read, a must read for anyone! read it a while back, it was recommended on Charlie Brookers comment is free spot in the Guardian.

i read news websites. cant see the point of wasting money on tomorrows chip wrappers
So do I, splodgey. :)

I have a fairly full list of newspaper sites in my browser, including the Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Independent, Daily Express, The Daily Mail, The Guardian/Observer, Daily Record, New York Times, Washington Post, Rotherham Advertiser, Sheffield Star, Yorkshire Post, etc etc...

I read most of the UK papers every day, their news stories, comment, and individual commentators from Littlejohn et al, and reader's letters. I avoid "Dear Deidre" unless I've submitted a request for an answer to a personal problem. :hihi:

Once my insatiable appetite is satisfied, I log in to SF. :)

I have no angst re the Mirror, Sun, or Daily Mail! Only peasants get hung up about the contents of those three newspapers. :o ;)

Rich, Metro is just The Daily Mail but a few days late with the stories, so beware! It *does* have Nemi in it though and she's fab ;)

I'm a total newspaper snob! I'd never go and buy the Mail, Express, Sun, Star or Sport unless they had some freebie I wanted (the Mail is verrrry good at freebies!). But I also feel a bit embarrassed buying the Grauniad.

My snobbery doesn't come from the whole tabloid/broadsheet thing either as I like The Mirror - it gives a tabloid/celeb/TV/junk fix but with slightly longer words than The Sun, which I can flick through within five minutes - very poor value! Plus I don't like having tits in my newspaper!

I find the Mail very readable indeed and it's one of the sites I go on most, however I take every word with a huuuuuge pinch of salt - I know that their education stories are almost all BS so why should the rest be any more accurate? :suspect: Their 'human interest' stories are good though, as are the reviews, and the froth-mouthed rants on the letters page puts Bartfast to shame :D

The British press is well known for being amongst the most scurrilous in the world though, even worse than the US press! And the Daily Mail is particularly well known for existing purely to stir people up (it has also been known as Daily Hate and Daily Heil for sympathising with the Nazis prior to WWII) so people are wise to treat it with caution.


Even if the Daily Hate gave away High Definition DVDs of all 6 Star Wars movies I still wouldn't buy it! :rant:

I don't buy newspapers often. I like the Metro when I'm going to work - the Sudoku passes the time on the tram! I'll buy the Guardian on a Wednesday, the Mail on a Saturday (best TV mag!) and if I feel like chilling on a Sunday, whichever looks interesting, be it the Observer, Times, Express, Mail...

I'll read the Sun or Mirror if there's one lying around, but I don't really enjoy much about either. Local papers - who needs them when we've got the forum! :o

Even if the Daily Hate gave away High Definition DVDs of all 6 Star Wars movies I still wouldn't buy it! :rant:

What about Blu-Ray ones though? :P

I've got stacks of things from the Heil. I'm not proud ;) It's the only thing that ever gets me to buy it so....:|

I'm always amused by the way their title is printed in the same font that Mein Kampf is. :hihi:

Even if the Daily Hate gave away High Definition DVDs of all 6 Star Wars movies I still wouldn't buy it! :rant:

But you still read the Metro?

http://www.mediauk.com/owners/42/daily-mail-and-general-trust

Clue: scroll down to the 'm's.

Hypocrite.

Plus, the Daily Express is just as bad. Its like the Mail but with extra Diana.

P.S interesting fact - my Grandad was reading the Express when he snuffed it...on the bog. Nice one Freddy!

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To be honest I don't know how working people find the time to read the broadsheets, - unless they're reading the paper instead of working.:suspect: I could never find the time except at weekends...

Skim through at breakfast, making a mental note of anything I want to read in more depth when I get home.

I read the Independent, the best of a fairly mediocre bunch. The problem I have with all tabloids is their substitution of news with salacious gossip, their judgemental attitute towards how people should behave, appear etc and their putting such an extremely heavy editorial slant on every story so that you're not told the facts but what the paper thinks, which is a very different thing.

Of the broadsheets, The Guardian is too much of an apologist for the left and the Telegraph too much of an apologist for the right - neither present a balanced view.

I fell out with The Times when I noticed an ever increasing Sun-style sensationalism creep in and the general standard of journalism is pretty dire compared with 20 years ago when it was a class apart. I also have no desire to contribute to Murdoch's offshore, non-tax paying bank account; the man is a malign influence and the deal he struck with Tony Blair is still to be properly accounted for.

That leaves the best reporter of news, the FT; unfortunately it is shockingly dull. And the Independent, not perfect by any means, but the best of a mediocre bunch.

I hadn't seen this thread when I posted a similar question, my use of the seaqrch facility used the wrong keywords, anyway, my thoughts were as copied below, this thread has truly amazed me with the narrow minded view so many people seem to have about reading certain papers, I'm truly gobsmacked!
This thread was brought about as a result of several weeks pondering and this post made by Rich (hope you don't mind me quoting you):
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Fartfirst istypical of the common stereotype of Daily Mail readers.. Clueless Alf Garnett wannabe who is racist, homophobic and hates the world and everyone in it who holds a view or does something he doesn't like.


I especially hate politics and avoid discussing that kind of thing like the plague yet ineviably get drawn in and I'm one of the first to do something about it if there's issues affecting me which make me unhappy.
I was brought up with the Daily Mail by well educated parents who understand the paper to be resented by the government as being a stand alone who report the facts rather than the conveniences and preferred public commentary.
I also read The Guardian on occasion, the Telegraph at times and a few others on even more rare occasions.
I like the journo style of them, easy reading, as opposed to The Times but still involving some mental stimulation as opposed to The Sun. (All subject to my own opinion based on experience reading them and journo training.)
I have only recently come to realise that I'm meant to be a Guardian reader and Labour supporter as a result of my career choices - the teaching and arts side.
However, my preferences lie with the Conservatives and yet still not strongly enough to actually vote.
I'm seriously considering setting up my own party in fact. I kid you not.
What I don't understand the the stereotypes that pop up. I don't know a single homophobic Mail reader though I realise this is one example and not the voice of the nation.
I don't 'do' racism, I do equality. I don't do homophobia, I do equality.
So, for all those who disregard others based on which newspaper they read and what political views they must, by association have, why are you so passionate about it?
Have you actually checked the facts of stories for yourself to find out how much is artistic licence or mistake or do you just assume that because it is a different paper to yours that it must be lies or politically affiliated at all times?

I know some papers do have some political affiliation but do you know an of it for sure? What about the media silence about Prince Harry being in a warzone? It came as no surprise to me, the newspapers are controlled to some degree and yet some are entirely capable of printing the truth and are still slammed for it.
Why does everyone have to be left wing or right wing and what is your understanding of those phrases?

I'm assuming then, that other than HappyHippy who replied on the thread I posted, that those who are totally up in arms about the acceptable newspapers to read can't actually defend their position?

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