This is a rather random request, but I wonder if anyone can help. I have written a story about pigeons for gcse coursework, and I have been told if one of the pigeons spoke with a different accent, I would gain more marks. I thought It would be good if one of them could speak with a Sheffield accent; trouble is I'm not from Sheffield and I want it to sound authentic.... so I was wondering if anyone could please help with restructering the following sentances:

"you are an absolute disgrace to all pigeons", Tarquin,a young well respected pigeon, declared "You are the fattest pigeon I've ever seen!"

I think I would have to think of a more suitable name than Tarquin and I he dosn't have to be described as well respected.
I know this is a strange thing to ask but it would be really helpful if anyone has any ideas.

"you are an absolute disgrace to all pigeons", Tarquin,a young well respected pigeon, declared "You are the fattest pigeon I've ever seen!"

Well, i'd say:

"Tha's a bleedin' disgrace t'all pigeons abaat", "and thas t'fattest pigeon i've ever clapped me eyes on!"

Originally posted by RPG
"you are an absolute disgrace to all pigeons", Tarquin,a young well respected pigeon, declared "You are the fattest pigeon I've ever seen!"

Well, i'd say:

"Tha's a bleedin' disgrace t'all pigeons abaat", "and thas t'fattest pigeon i've ever clapped me eyes on!" abaht reit id se

Originally posted by jezzie
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I think I would have to think of a more suitable name than Tarquin /B]

Tarquin! You're right - it's gotta go! Anyone any better ideas for the pigeon's name?

I dont think it ought to swear and if it did, "blumming" is more Sheffield! Call him Jud, that's old Sheffield for George!

"Tha'rt a blumming disgrace tu all t'other pigeons rahnd 'ere" Jud, a young well-respected pigeon declared "and thas t'fattest pigeon i've ever clapped eyes on!"

Since when has "bleedin'" been swearing? :confused:

Surely its the toned down version of "Bloody" ? (which again, isnt swearing anyway)

When did that stop being swearing? It must be cos i'm soooooo old RPG ...

My mother would have knocked my head off for saying either. As far as she was concerned "bleeding" was the worst swearing thing ever ... far worse than "bloody" which she did sometimes say. And the F word and others were never heard at all!

I did somehow have the idea that the story was intended for children though ...

Originally posted by rubydazzler
My mother would have knocked my head off for saying either. As far as she was concerned "bleeding" was the worst swearing thing ever ... far worse than "bloody" which she did sometimes say. And the F word and others were never heard at all!

how come its all about blood? might aswell have ketchup as a swear word!

AFAIK, Louise, Bloody is a contracted form of the oath "By Our Lady" i.e the Blessed Virgin Mary. As such it was considered swearing and blasphemy?

Sure some of our learned forum colleagues will be able to tell us if that's right or wrong.

Tarqins don't do dialect. Strictly standard English and usually with a plummy accent. :D

Don't be too sure about that. I was once sent to Glasgow to meet a gentleman called Benjamin French. With a name like that I was expecting John Inman, but what I got was a heavily tattoed, thick set glaswegian with an accent so impenetrable[although not for me] it made Jimmy Knapp sound like Julie Andrews.
He was a great bloke however, and we had a right laugh, as I fixed the data system on his printing machine.

it dont matter they all sound like there from sheffield

Originally posted by ashley
it dont matter they all sound like there from sheffield
Ashley, If you think that a glasgow accent makes someone sound the same as a sheffield accent. Then I think you need to visit the UK.

Originally posted by rubydazzler
AFAIK, Louise, Bloody is a contracted form of the oath "By Our Lady" i.e the Blessed Virgin Mary. As such it was considered swearing and blasphemy?

Sure some of our learned forum colleagues will be able to tell us if that's right or wrong.

Some sources trace "bloody" back to the Elizabethans, as they had the sweary exclamations "Christ's blood!" and "Christ's wounds!" (which appear in Shakespeare as "'sblood!" and "zounds!"). But "bloody" as an emphatic swear word originates with the Mohocks, who were an early 18th-century subculture of posh young louts. The bored sons of noblemen, they would go into town often armed with knives and generally cause mayhem for the common people with no fear of being brought to account. The 'blood' aspect relates to their high birth. If, for instance, a Mohock was drunk, then he might have been said to be "drunk as a lord", "drunk as a blood", and then just "bloody drunk".

Summat like that anyway.

Jezzie... can you post a copy of the coursework on here or on the net somewhere...? After reading this thread (and being very bored at work) I'm dying know what happens to Tarquin the swearing Northern pidgeon and his chubby friend!

Incidently, Bill is a good Northern name, and perhaps as an alternative to swearing you could use the phrase "Flippin 'Eck". It's my granddad's favourite way to express anger or disgust and he's got a very broad Sheffield accent.

He's called Bill too!!! Am just modeling this pidgeon on my granddad now!!!

Originally posted by JBee
Incidently, Bill is a good Northern name, and perhaps as an alternative to swearing you could use the phrase "Flippin 'Eck". It's my granddad's favourite way to express anger or disgust and he's got a very broad Sheffield accent.

Actually to be fair to jezzie, the "swearing" originated with RPG ... I just took a look a the original post and there was nothing in it then!

but I like flipping eck .... and I'd like to read the full story sometime too ... how about it jessie?

Thankyou to everybody who helped with this. I saw my tutor today and she thinks this will help it get pushed up to a B grade. If anyone would like to read the full story; I will email it to them offline.
Thanks Again
Jezzie

thart nowt but a bain tarq a stuck up youngen yelped thart just a porker

"you are an absolute disgrace to all pigeons", Tarquin,a young well respected pigeon, declared "You are the fattest pigeon I've ever seen!"

Well, i'd say:

"Tha's a bleedin' disgrace t'all pigeons abaat", "and thas t'fattest pigeon i've ever clapped me eyes on!"

Excellent-love it made me chuckle and i'm in a bad mood today, so thanks for that !

Tarquin! You're right - it's gotta go! Anyone any better ideas for the pigeon's name?

A common name used by the old lofters was "Betty".

how about "de da de da" ?

This is a rather random request, but I wonder if anyone can help. I have written a story about pigeons for gcse coursework, and I have been told if one of the pigeons spoke with a different accent, I would gain more marks. I thought It would be good if one of them could speak with a Sheffield accent; trouble is I'm not from Sheffield and I want it to sound authentic.... so I was wondering if anyone could please help with restructering the following sentances:

"you are an absolute disgrace to all pigeons", Tarquin,a young well respected pigeon, declared "You are the fattest pigeon I've ever seen!"

I think I would have to think of a more suitable name than Tarquin and I he dosn't have to be described as well respected.
I know this is a strange thing to ask but it would be really helpful if anyone has any ideas.

"tha anabslut disgrace t'all pigeons" "tha fattest bint aveversen"

I would imagine the kid has left school by now.

"tha anabslut disgrace t'all pigeons" "tha fattest bint aveversen"

I would imagine the kid has left school by now.

I believe the writer has emerged as a prodigously talented author,who has a series of books based on a group of birds who work in the USA.Appparently theres a magpie,a sparrow,a throstle and an owl so far;they all have great problems communicating with the residents of Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

Since when has "bleedin'" been swearing? :confused:

Surely its the toned down version of "Bloody" ? (which again, isnt swearing anyway)

Replace 'Bleedin' with 'Flamin'. It seems to work on Corries and Emmers!!

by eck? or is that too far north?