With the high numbers of unwanted dogs in pounds/resuces, the "back-yard breeders" constantly turning out pups for pounds with no thought to the welfare of mum or pups anyone else think it would be a good idea to bring back a dog licence. The money raised would hopefully be used for extra dog wardens, behaviourists, neuturing vouchers etc and be a substantial amount to make people realise what a commitment they are about to take on. If the dog is licensed with a compulsory micro-chip then it would make it harder for certain "owners" to simply remove a collar shoving the dog out into the street knowing their responibility ends and the problem of re-homing will be down to a pound or rescue. Something has to be done to help these stray dogs and I for one wouldn't mind paying to have licences for my dogs knowing that the money would be used to help those not lucky enough to have a bed to snuggle in and a family who love them

I'd prefer to see a compulsory training course every year, which covers basic care, pet first aid and the like- the excess on the fee for which goes to fund rescue work.

If there's something simple like buying a license then I don't think that it will deter someone who doesn't care. All the money in the world is not guaranteed to make someone be a good animal parent.

Compulsory microchipping would help too.

I'd prefer to see a compulsory training course every year, which covers basic care, pet first aid and the like- the excess on the fee for which goes to fund rescue work.

If there's something simple like buying a license then I don't think that it will deter someone who doesn't care. All the money in the world is not guaranteed to make someone be a good animal parent.

Compulsory microchipping would help too.

I also agree that a licence fee will not deter the idiot element.

What I would like to see is compulsory microchipping, and compulsory neutering too, with non- neutered dogs and cats licensed via the owner to breed, and heavy penalties for un neutered dogs and unlicensed breeding.

I also agree that a licence fee will not deter the idiot element.

What I would like to see is compulsory microchipping, and compulsory neutering too, with non- neutered dogs and cats licensed via the owner to breed, and heavy penalties for un neutered dogs and unlicensed breeding.
This has to be the best way, but not only for dogs but cats too.

This has to be the best way, but not only for dogs but cats too.

I realise that this idea of mine will be somewhat impractical, and probably unworkable, but, seeing what my cousin and her little dog went through when the dog had pups, I really do think that pretty much all dogs should be neutered.

Her dog had a litter of six pups:- My lad, and five bitches.

There were worries about the length of time the pups took to be whelped. It was thought she might have to have an emergency dash to the vet, for a caesarian. Fortunately at the last minute she managed to part with the pup.

Cousin kept the mother, and one of the bitches, I had the dog. That still left four of the bitch-pups to find homes for.

Eventually, a pound took the four remaining puppies on and (hopefully) found homes for them.

i think that the way forward is micro chipping,and for people to be fined if thier dog is found on the streets roaming ,lets say the cost of the dogs stay in the pound until it has a new owner. im sure this would encourage the owners to notify change of owner,also i think all breaders should have pups chipped before selling, what ya think?


sorry plain talker didn`t notice your earlier post ,but now you know you have my support lol

I think it would be a good idea to bring back the dog licence and if not micro chips should be compulsery police should be able to do spot checks to see if your dogs chiped if not on the spot fine

to be honest i think most animals should require some sort of qulaification to own as some owners know nothing about there pets especialy exotic pet owners some people just buy as a fad and get it home not even knowing what to feed it trust me i've seen people in the pet shop saying i just got a lizzerd what do i feed it and when they get told locus they go yuck are u sure i cant give it cat food.

but yer the licence and a posible test should be introduced, but the goverment wont spend money seting up the system they will just leave it to the poor old rspca to police animal crulilty on there very small budget

I'd prefer to see a compulsory training course every year, which covers basic care, pet first aid and the like- the excess on the fee for which goes to fund rescue work.

If there's something simple like buying a license then I don't think that it will deter someone who doesn't care. All the money in the world is not guaranteed to make someone be a good animal parent.

Compulsory microchipping would help too.

I like both these ideas Meds- much more effective than just reintroducing the dog licence

I realise that this idea of mine will be somewhat impractical, and probably unworkable, but, seeing what my cousin and her little dog went through when the dog had pups, I really do think that pretty much all dogs should be neutered.

Her dog had a litter of six pups:- My lad, and five bitches.

There were worries about the length of time the pups took to be whelped. It was thought she might have to have an emergency dash to the vet, for a caesarian. Fortunately at the last minute she managed to part with the pup.

Cousin kept the mother, and one of the bitches, I had the dog. That still left four of the bitch-pups to find homes for.

Eventually, a pound took the four remaining puppies on and (hopefully) found homes for them.

This is exactly my point though - people take their unwanted dogs to the pound to get rid of their "problem" I know this may not have been your friends situation but if her dog had been spayed there wouldn't have been any need to have these surplus dogs put in what would have been for them a very frightening and potentially dangerous environment with the chances of catching parvo or kennel cough extremely high. Hopefully they will have been found loving homes, but from someone who has rescue dogs - one that had been in a pound twice and was about to be put to sleep before I got her out at 16 weeks old - sometimes it doesn't happen. As anyone who has visited these hell holes will tell you, it is a sight you don't forget too quickly. :cry::cry:

i think the license should be introduced back in before you get it you have to complete the kennel club good citzens award, have the animal microchipped and neutered unless you are a kennel club accrdited breeder, and also be over 18.

and for ALL dogs not just bull breeds to be aggrssion tested if they are not friendly with other dogs they should be muzzled when in public. also i think park wardens etc should be able to do random stop test to dog owners to see if they have their license and all the right things with them Poo bags ETC.

i think the license should be introduced back in before you get it you have to complete the kennel club good citzens award, have the animal microchipped and neutered unless you are a kennel club accrdited breeder, and also be over 18.

and for ALL dogs not just bull breeds to be aggrssion tested if they are not friendly with other dogs they should be muzzled when in public. also i think park wardens etc should be able to do random stop test to dog owners to see if they have their license and all the right things with them Poo bags ETC.

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it never worked in the past and it will never work in the future only responsible dog owners would licence the dogs and in the end it would be a futile excercise.
dont start about chipping every dog otherwise the government will see £ signs and then they will make it compulsory at a ridculous price per dog and only responsible dog owners would pay, the others would ignore the requirements. and the only winner would be the government. A Completely stupid and utterly stupid idea.

also ALL dogs should be upto date on vaccs etc and that should show on the license. i think they should do it and get tough with it. no licence one fine just like if you are caught without any insurence on your car.

also ALL dogs should be upto date on vaccs etc and that should show on the license. i think they should do it and get tough with it. no licence one fine just like if you are caught without any insurence on your car.

all very well but only the responsible would do it another stupid idea. costing all the responsible money and all the riff raff would pay nothing.
a completely stupid idea,

surley there would be a way for it to work thou.

surley there would be a way for it to work thou.

never in a thousand years will it work only people that care will pay and those that dont will not the only winner will be the government.
christ they charge £10 TO GET A PLANE NOWADAYS.
they cancelled the dog licence because it was unenforceable the same will happen again, close the thread before a MP SEES IT and tells GORDON

surley there would be a way for it to work thou.

Plenty of people driving cars without the required bits of paper - license, insurance, tax, MOT.

Why would a dog license be policed any better? How would it be policed?

i think most animals should require some sort of qulaification to own as some owners know nothing about there pets

Doesn't stop people having kids, so why would it stop them having animals?

Plenty of people driving cars without the required bits of paper - license, insurance, tax, MOT.

Why would a dog license be policed any better? How would it be policed?



Doesn't stop people having kids, so why would it stop them having animals?

well said pal basically what I try to point out in a different perspective

it never worked in the past and it will never work in the future only responsible dog owners would licence the dogs and in the end it would be a futile excercise.
dont start about chipping every dog otherwise the government will see £ signs and then they will make it compulsory at a ridculous price per dog and only responsible dog owners would pay, the others would ignore the requirements. and the only winner would be the government. A Completely stupid and utterly stupid idea.

so you have a better one then eh?

so you have a better one then eh?

no I DONT but your idea has been tried and tested and found wanting
so for the meantime let the present system remain.

cannot you understand only the law abiding will have to pay so in effect we will be charged to own a pet so the chavs can look and laugh at us for being stupid for paying a licence fee. if everybody paid it what exactly would the money be used for
to fill the govermment coffers I WILL REPEAT GIVING THE GOVERMENT MONEY FOR A DOG LICENCE will do nothing at all for the welfare or wellbeing of dogs
and also it will be a completely stupid idea

well maybe if they take their benefits/wages off them in fines when they come across a dog that isn't licensed will make them think twice. As for having loads of kids maybe child benefits should be stopped at the third child but then that is a different story .... I am not saying it is perfect but something has to be done - the present system of ignoring the problem obvioulsy isn't working either

and for ALL dogs not just bull breeds to be aggrssion tested if they are not friendly with other dogs they should be muzzled when in public.

This may be hard to do, even the most friendly dogs sometimes take offensive to another dogs and then how would you prove it was not dog aggressive? In effect it would mean all dogs have to be muzzled at all times. I could not see happening as responsible people would do it but then have their dogs attacked ,unable to defend themselves against dogs owned by irresponsible owners.

I have a rescue dog that is dog aggressive and have to be very careful when out and about, I am working very hard on the issue. A muzzle is not good as all aggressive dogs would do is still charge at other dogs, so careful handling and keeping him on lead under control is better than having muzzled agressive dogs charging people/ dogs.

i think the license should be introduced back in before you get it you have to complete the kennel club good citzens award, have the animal microchipped and neutered unless you are a kennel club accrdited breeder, and also be over 18.

and for ALL dogs not just bull breeds to be aggrssion tested if they are not friendly with other dogs they should be muzzled when in public. also i think park wardens etc should be able to do random stop test to dog owners to see if they have their license and all the right things with them Poo bags ETC.

if the breeder is kennel club accredited, wouldn't that mean all dogs would eventually be pedigrees, which would cause problems with the gene pool being too shallow...?

would the agression testing simp;y not be a feather in the cap of the irresponsible, the thugs, and the chavs that are mostly the source of this problem?

It'll not be "look at my staffie, he makes me look 'well ard', dunnee?"

it'll be "Yeah he's bred for fierceness and agression:- look, he's got a certificate to prove how violent he is!" - *swagger, swagger*

It'll just be "bragging rights," won't it...?

Poop bags? my dog never goes out without I have a pocketful of poop bags with me!

I’m not for the idea either, although I wouldn’t say it’s entirely stupid. In theory, it ought to make a huge difference but, in practice, it really won’t at all because there are no resources in place to police it, unless the powers that be will plough the money back into regulation. So it will just be the responsible owners paying the price once again, whilst the irresponsible shirk their duties, as usual.

Yes, microchipping should be compulsory but, then again, the indiscriminate back-street breeders won’t be bothered will they? Even if there were laws introduced to ensure that animals are microchipped, there will still be an element that swerve the law somehow. It comes back to responsible owners observing the law yet again!

Horse passports were introduced a few years ago. On paper, they were to enable a breeding database to be created, vets would only be required to record the administration of drugs on the passports and no horse would be able to be bought or sold without a passport (thereby preventing theft). Officers were to visit livery yards etc to check passports were in place and even horses in transit or at shows could be checked.

Sadly, none of the above has come to fruition since the passports came into effect. I haven’t heard of a single livery yard being visited or been requested, by a vet, for sight of a passport. Horses are still being stolen in high numbers and anyone can truck up to a market and be issued with a passport on the day! As far as I’m aware, horses at ports aren’t checked against passports either so many of the horses that disappear are possibly out of the country or slaughtered at abattoirs where their passports aren’t requested.

The law abiding people have shelled out, quite probably hundreds of thousands of pounds (in total) for a complete waste of time. DEFRA has a lot to answer for with that initiative!

Sadly, I dont think a dog licence would work, simply because it would not be enforcable and as said on this thread, the ones who cared would be the only ones with a licence etc. I would willingly pay as would most on this site, but would the idiot element, no chance!! And who would fine them and make them pay!!
I dont know what the answer is. There certianly needs to be more information to new owners and this must come from the breeders. I think the breeders need to take more responsiblility for their pups and like some in the gsd world sign a breeders charter. But in honesty how many people looking for a pup would check that the breeder had signed a breeders charter, most folk would look in the local paper -- and end up giving money to some person who is breeding just for profit and hasnt even thought about x raying the breeding stock for HD, or knows which lines carry epilepsy or had his stock tested.
No, more likely up for a fast buck.
The compulsery sterilisation of animals not registered for breeding would make sense. This would perhaps make the breeders more responsible and pet pups would be just that, not bought as breeding machines.

yer i am in favour of a licence but it would never work, if a chav(dog not on a lead) was pulled by the coppers theye would say the dog wasn't theres and let the coppers take it and then they would be off to nick another 1