View Full Version : Sheffield city council, priority?


marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:11
what does yor situation have to be to qualify for priority with sheffield city council? i live in a private rented house with my partner and 2 children and we desperately need somewhere bigger, my little boy and girl are sharing a very small bedroom at the moment and we dont even have a garden for them to play in, would we qualify for priority?

kittenta
14-05-2008, 21:13
You would only be given priority regarding your children if one of them was over 10 years old.

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:14
d'oh thats not much good, the boy is 4 an the girls 21 months. wot if we av another kid cos we are trying....

kittenta
14-05-2008, 21:17
Hmm I seem to remember something about a baby not being counted until they are a certain age, not sure though.

kittenta
14-05-2008, 21:20
Ok click on this link http://www.sheffieldhomes.org.uk/find-a-new-home/council-housing/lettings-policy

On that page is a pdf file of their lettings policy and it tells you everything on there

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:22
counil r rubbish lol, just want somewhere to live where i can let the kids run round in fresh air so we not all under each others feet

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:23
thanx will av a look

kittenta
14-05-2008, 21:24
Try the housing associations too. The more lists you are on the more chance you have.

ricky36
14-05-2008, 21:24
why ask the question twice

the_rudeboy
14-05-2008, 21:32
wot if we av another kid cos we are trying....
Is that wise in your current situation?

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:35
who knows but dont want 2 big an age gap between kids

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:36
dint mean 2, i've ad a drink

tifftifco2
14-05-2008, 21:38
im pretty sure this would not qualify even though it's not ideal you could try it though it may be classed as overcrowding, i know they allow people with 1 child to stay in a 1 bed flat and wont give them priority as i bumped in to an old neighbour of mine last week who is in that situation and they say till she is 10 i think but you could ask macbeth on here she knows all the info on this sort of think. could you consider private renting another more sutible property?

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:40
not really, have checked it out, were even willing to move out the area and have 2 change nurseries an jobs etc but financially its just not viable

the_rudeboy
14-05-2008, 21:40
who knows but dont want 2 big an age gap between kids.....or three kids sharing a small bedroom?

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:44
point taken :-)

the_rudeboy
14-05-2008, 21:51
point taken :-) Wasn't having a go btw. :)

Is finding a larger privately rented house an option?

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 21:54
i know u wasnt :-) have just answered ur question lol. nevermind we'll av 2 manage, i'll kip on settee if needs b:-)

tifftifco2
14-05-2008, 21:55
you know i really feel for you you obviously work and it's so crap that people can't have more kids cause they have no where to put them especially when they work and pay there way it's so unfair i want another baby and have space for one but can't afford another at the moment because of time id have to have off work and i would'nt want to go back after 6 months and im also private renting and its just not settled for any of us!

Carl_Malibu
14-05-2008, 21:56
A mate of mine, family live in the same 3 bedroom house, one 19 year old, one 16 year old, 1 five year old and mum. HA and next door to the worst possible neighbours you could imagine.

They can pretty much only move out if they can find a straight exchange.

Go figure, your odds aren't good. The council/HA don't like giving their properties away to people not considered in dire need, and you need to consider whether that fits you? Obviously I know nothing about your house or your family but small accommodation is a fact of life if you don't earn much, isn't it? Has always been the way for my family, but we've dealt with it without trying to "play the system".

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 22:03
you know i really feel for you you obviously work and it's so crap that people can't have more kids cause they have no where to put them especially when they work and pay there way it's so unfair i want another baby and have space for one but can't afford another at the moment because of time id have to have off work and i would'nt want to go back after 6 months and im also private renting and its just not settled for any of us!

such is life!!! well i suppose i can go an ask them 4 nowt, worst they can say is no:( or laugh in my face lol

tifftifco2
14-05-2008, 22:06
such is life!!! well i suppose i can go an ask them 4 nowt, worst they can say is no:( or laugh in my face lol

im sure they wont laugh but if you can afford to private rent them for your kids sake id say consider a bigger property if they say no its worth it for them!

marcgoddard
14-05-2008, 22:07
A mate of mine, family live in the same 3 bedroom house, one 19 year old, one 16 year old, 1 five year old and mum. HA and next door to the worst possible neighbours you could imagine.

They can pretty much only move out if they can find a straight exchange.

Go figure, your odds aren't good. The council/HA don't like giving their properties away to people not considered in dire need, and you need to consider whether that fits you? Obviously I know nothing about your house or your family but small accommodation is a fact of life if you don't earn much, isn't it? Has always been the way for my family, but we've dealt with it without trying to "play the system".

an i thought we were cramped!! /be greatful for small mercys

Phylis
15-05-2008, 07:25
Its back to the same old story. Why not try and find a bigger private rented property. Please dont have more kids until you can house them comfortably. People dont seem to think about this.

leviathan13
16-05-2008, 12:01
Its back to the same old story. Why not try and find a bigger private rented property. Please dont have more kids until you can house them comfortably. People dont seem to think about this.

Don't even bother, it's really not worth it.

I'm getting sick of idiots being able to reproduce and then expecting others to sort out their mistakes!

Phylis
16-05-2008, 12:05
Don't even bother, it's really not worth it.

I'm getting sick of idiots being able to reproduce and then expecting others to sort out their mistakes!

Not just me then. People expect everything handed on a plate nowadays. Its sickening really.

Ms Macbeth
16-05-2008, 12:15
And its likely to get worse. Repossessions of owner occupied houses are on the up, so there are likely to be more families chasing less social housing. I try not to be too critical of people's life choices, but I can't believe someone is on one hand saying the council is rubbish for not giving his family a bigger home, and on the other hand trying to increase the size of the family. :confused:

zoe187
17-11-2010, 10:01
The Council are rubbish, my partner and i were robbed at knifepoint in our home, we went to the council for help and they said our situation wasnt serious enough! maybe if we had been stabbed that would have helped!! we named the culprits who live a mere five minutes away but again they werent charged and the council thinks we felt 'victimised' and so are refusing to move us! idiots! we are currently appealing their decision but i have my doubts!

any advice on who to contact etcetera would be much appreciated!

Ms Macbeth
17-11-2010, 22:29
The Council are rubbish, my partner and i were robbed at knifepoint in our home, we went to the council for help and they said our situation wasnt serious enough! maybe if we had been stabbed that would have helped!! we named the culprits who live a mere five minutes away but again they werent charged and the council thinks we felt 'victimised' and so are refusing to move us! idiots! we are currently appealing their decision but i have my doubts!

any advice on who to contact etcetera would be much appreciated!

The police? Have you asked them why people who broke into your home and threatened you with knives weren't charged? What evidence does the council have that this happened?

I assume you are in a council property - if you had been threatened in a privately rented house, what would you have expected from your landlord?

chem1st
17-11-2010, 22:54
You need to get in touch again with the police, the IPCC and the housing.

http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/

Put in a complaint, notify the Police you are putting in a complaint.

Maybe even go to the star.

zoe187
18-11-2010, 08:47
we have done all of that but because the idiots didnt leave any DNA and had 'alibi's' then there is nothing the police can do!

it is private rented accomodation but the fact remains, we do not feel safe where we are - more so now that they know we named them to the police - and so what can my landlord do about that? he may be able to help protect the property but we are still in the same area of these people, hence why we thought that the Council would be willing to help. apparently not!

i am aware they have hundreds of people to re-home but i would have thought that this incident, which is not an isolated incident, would have been given a little more thought, rather than saying we felt 'victimised' of course we did, we were held at bloody knifepoint! morons!

the council have proof that this actually took place, givent that the officer dealing with this case submitted statements and even a recommendation letter to the council stating that he felt it was unsafe for us to return to the property as more incidents will no doubt arise from this!

i have contacted local MP's and the like who have written to the council on our behalf, as has our solicitor, and the next step will be to take this to the star! Thank you Chem1st for your helpful suggestions.

Ms Macbeth
18-11-2010, 08:57
we have done all of that but because the idiots didnt leave any DNA and had 'alibi's' then there is nothing the police can do!

it is private rented accomodation but the fact remains, we do not feel safe where we are - more so now that they know we named them to the police - and so what can my landlord do about that? he may be able to help protect the property but we are still in the same area of these people, hence why we thought that the Council would be willing to help. apparently not!

i am aware they have hundreds of people to re-home but i would have thought that this incident, which is not an isolated incident, would have been given a little more thought, rather than saying we felt 'victimised' of course we did, we were held at bloody knifepoint! morons!

the council have proof that this actually took place, givent that the officer dealing with this case submitted statements and even a recommendation letter to the council stating that he felt it was unsafe for us to return to the property as more incidents will no doubt arise from this!

i have contacted local MP's and the like who have written to the council on our behalf, as has our solicitor, and the next step will be to take this to the star! Thank you Chem1st for your helpful suggestions.

You have said you are in private rented accommodation. Is it impossible to find another house or flat to rent privately?

If you really want social housing urgently, look on the Property shop website, there is a 'First Come First Served' option - there are a few flats for singles or couple on there this week, that aren't age restricted. http://www.sheffieldpropertyshop.org.uk/fcfsprop.asp?ID=B43D7C3BD6574A3C88AF63CB56154791

As long as you are eligible, and registered with the council, you can get one of those with no waiting time. Of course if you have children, these may not be suitable as they are mainly for single people or couples.

zoe187
18-11-2010, 09:35
because the landlord was a friend and didnt ask for a bond, so therefore we cannot afford a bond! why shouldn't we ask for help from the council? we have two children with us so it cant be a one bedroomed flat!

you seem to be really negative towards our situation, dont judge us when you dont know us! why are you so against us asking for help from the council? we should all be entitled to help from these services so why so negative?

Ms Macbeth
18-11-2010, 11:06
because the landlord was a friend and didnt ask for a bond, so therefore we cannot afford a bond! why shouldn't we ask for help from the council? we have two children with us so it cant be a one bedroomed flat!

you seem to be really negative towards our situation, dont judge us when you dont know us! why are you so against us asking for help from the council? we should all be entitled to help from these services so why so negative?

I'm not trying to be negative, and I'm certainly not judging. I was just trying to establish your reasons for wanting a council house. If someone only gives limited information, it can seem unclear why they think they only have one option. I've been a housing worker, and I know that family sized homes are few and far between. If I'd known you were a family with children I wouldn't have suggested FCFS as they usually only have flats available. I did point that out in my post. But you only mentioned you and your partner being threatened.

I don't know if you have seen the Shelter website, you might find some useful information on it about your rights. http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice
They have a free helpline: 0808 800 4444.

chem1st
18-11-2010, 12:28
Have you contacted the IPCC to lodge a complaint?

You should also go to the doctors and tell them the effect this has had on your mental health, get a prescription and supporting evidence for your application.

Narden Dee
18-11-2010, 15:30
Have you contacted the IPCC to lodge a complaint?

You should also go to the doctors and tell them the effect this has had on your mental health, get a prescription and supporting evidence for your application.

has the poster said they are having mental health problems - No

so what you are advocating is to go to the doctors and lie in order that they may get a property rather than doing what has been suggested by Mrs Macbeth.

i seem to recall that you are constantly posting on here about how bad the housing situation is with regards to people getting priorities and how people are working the system and now you are encouraging someone to lie in order to get a priority :loopy:

nexusdee
21-11-2010, 23:05
Sorry I must agree with most people that it would perhaps be more sensible to wait until you have the room before having another child. However on a more positive note have u tried looking at First Come First Serve? often larger properties go on there & the criteria isnt so strict

kerrieann198
22-11-2010, 13:30
sheffield council are useless ive been homless for nearly a yr now..and still wont put me on priority even tho im a 5 months pregnant..i have waiting time of 8 yrs and keep bidding but nothing happens its a waste.. at the min im sharing a bedroom with my 20 yr old brother..im 23 whats going to happen when my baby comes have i still gotta share a room with him..surely they should be doing somthing ....

GrannyGranny
22-11-2010, 14:22
Firstly delay having another child until you have the means to afford a large enough property to house you all comfortably.

If you aren't able to save up for a bond how are you planning to afford another child?

Its your choice to have the kids, your personal circumstances should be such that you can house them properly and provide for them.

chem1st
22-11-2010, 14:26
Firstly delay having another child until you have the means to afford a large enough property to house you all comfortably.

If you aren't able to save up for a bond how are you planning to afford another child?

Its your choice to have the kids, your personal circumstances should be such that you can house them properly and provide for them.

10 to a room is ok.

Knock em out.

Plain Talker
22-11-2010, 16:17
sheffield council are useless ive been homless for nearly a yr now..and still wont put me on priority even tho im a 5 months pregnant..i have waiting time of 8 yrs and keep bidding but nothing happens its a waste.. at the min im sharing a bedroom with my 20 yr old brother..im 23 whats going to happen when my baby comes have i still gotta share a room with him..surely they should be doing somthing ....

So, having been homeless for nigh-on seven months, with no prospect of getting a council property in the near future, you still decided to get pregnant?

Sorry to sound unsympathetic, but if you have no home for yourself, you've no home for your child... So the sensible thing to do, surely, was not to get pregnant?

Ms Macbeth
22-11-2010, 16:35
sheffield council are useless ive been homless for nearly a yr now..and still wont put me on priority even tho im a 5 months pregnant..i have waiting time of 8 yrs and keep bidding but nothing happens its a waste.. at the min im sharing a bedroom with my 20 yr old brother..im 23 whats going to happen when my baby comes have i still gotta share a room with him..surely they should be doing somthing ....

Why are Sheffield Council useless? What is the father of your baby doing to provide a home for you and your child? I would reiterate what others on here have already said - if you are homeless, why did you allow yourself to get pregnant? And even if it were an accident, why is it someone else's responsibility to find you a home?

You won't be on maternity leave yet, so haven't you been saving up whilst living cheaply with your family? The council probably will have to help you find housing eventually, but with 8 years waiting time you could have had a flat by now - are you bidding on flats?

Perhaps a hostel for mothers and babies would be an option?