View Full Version : Parking Permits on Hawksley Road, Hillsborough


msdiane
01-04-2005, 16:30
Does anyone know where I can find out if the road I live on is to be restricted parking, I have heard a from a local shop keeper that the road is going to be permit holders only. Anyone else heard anythingabout this?

HotPhil
01-04-2005, 16:38
Normally notices are put up on lamp-posts announcing that the scheme is being considered. They certainly were when I lived near the Botanical Gardens and the ridiculous proposals were made and, sadly, carried out.
If not, best check the coucil website at www.sheffield.gov.uk I think.

msdiane
01-04-2005, 16:43
Lampost are void of any notices apart from neighbourhood watch :thumbsup

HotPhil
01-04-2005, 16:43
Wait a mo, I thought I recognised the road name. I've just looked up where it is; Why on Earth would anyone want to restrict the parking on a quiet cul-de-sac? Another ridiculous solely-to-generate-cash permit zone looks to be on the cards. Ask the council why they decided to propose it on your road. If it was one of your neighbour's suggestions, go round and biff them. If it's another wonderful council idea to make your life better, object! object! object! They're YOUR council....

msdiane
01-04-2005, 16:53
To be honest I don't know too much about what the benefits and pitfalls are with parking permits, we have 2 cars so can we have 2 permits?. It may be a cul-de-sac but the road is chocka block with hillsborough shoppers and parking is a big problem at times, so initially I am in favour of it but like I say don't known the problems or cost of these permits.

HotPhil
01-04-2005, 16:58
I could be wrong, but I think the permits are about £35/year, with a second car costing more. The catch is that a permit to park doesn't guarantee you a space - you may pay for the right to park but not be able to. Usually with these hideous pieces of local law making they come and paint parking bays on the road too, drastically reducing the number of spaces available. Oh, and if anyone comes to visit, you have to pay for a visitor's permit.

HotPhil
01-04-2005, 17:02
Sorry if I seem a bit negative about the parking permit thing, but it's just an idea I really disagree with. I struggle to see a single guaranteed benefit of it. Ok, it increases the chances of residents being able to park, but it doesn't guarantee it. And to the most part I think people moving to a road know whether they're going to be able to park or not. It's just a council revenue earner of no benefit to any community whatsoever.

garryh69
01-04-2005, 19:54
i remember when hawksley avenue had parking permits for residents only, traffic was diverted from middlewood road to miss hillsbro corner out due to supertram works back in 1991. dont know of any problems there. it just meant the shoppers had to use other parking facilities in hillsboro.
hope they do it again.

BoroughGal
02-04-2005, 11:11
Originally posted by garryh69
i remember when hawksley avenue had parking permits for residents only, traffic was diverted from middlewood road to miss hillsbro corner out due to supertram works back in 1991. dont know of any problems there. it just meant the shoppers had to use other parking facilities in hillsboro.
hope they do it again.

Yeah, ditto! I lived on there then, and it didn't affect me at all, in fact, all it meant is that I COULD get parked, instead of it being full of shoppers cars.

I think you'll benefit from permits, and I'm sure that they'll give you two if you have two cars.

I can't understand why Hawksley Road and not Avenue though?

matsalleh
03-04-2005, 13:46
Originally posted by BoroughGal

I think you'll benefit from permits, and I'm sure that they'll give you two if you have two cars.


Why? The maths are simple.
1 terrace house,frontage is big enough for the average saloon car to park..
2 cars, one has to use someone elses space.
3.Sell one car or sell both and buy two smart cars.
4 What about Cheadle St or Cannock St ? Already too many cars.
5 Sell up and buy house with enough space for your cars.
6 Try and get the road unadopted (if still possible) it was tried about 20 yrs ago- no chance.
You are going to say that some houses have no cars.My answer is that I would like to bet that there are more 2 car households in this area than 0 car houses.Plus the people who come home in company vans etc.What about a no car house and visitors ? Will they need a permit?
I thought my road tax allows me to park legally on a road.
PS I live on Cannock St.
Or change your working hours and come home before every one else and park anywhere.

BoroughGal
04-04-2005, 11:44
Originally posted by matsalleh
I live on Cannock St.

Sorry, would you not benefit from permits? I know that I would rather have room for myself and my neighbours to park rather than the road being full of shoppers traffic. And of course you may need to get home before neighbours in order to park, I'm sure you have to do that now, or park elsewhere. I have to where I live, and there's no permits at the moment.

The post wasn't an aimed at being an attack on the people of Hawksley Road/Cannock st/Cheadle St.

HotPhil
04-04-2005, 11:54
Residents benefit to a degree from parking permit zones, but have to shell out an extra tax that other's don't. Then there's the wider picture: nowhere for shoppers with cars to park = fewer shoppers = further decline of Hillsborough. Perhaps there's also the newly opening college to consider here as well. They'll be many more student cars around I would guess. I've not been to look at the college, but would be extraordinarily surprised/gobsmacked/have to be picked up off the floor if there's anywhere near enough car park spaces on site. I suspect a permit zone in roads around the college is being proposed to further disuade any students thinking about using a car.

feargal
04-04-2005, 12:01
Re the new college site, apparently it has been planned with "ample parking for students and staff". I would think this translates as 20 spaces! It is also a fair walk from the main bus routes (particularly worrying for people coming out of nightclasses I think).

If permits are introduced in Hillsborough, just having them on one or two roads surely isn't going to work... won't you just get a knock-on effect which clogs up neightbouring roads?

Fearful
04-04-2005, 14:08
I lived in Derby for a while and they decided to make the street where I lived a residents parking only area, due to the large number of people using the street for parking in the city centre.

I thought this was a good idea at first until I realised that the residents would have to pay £70 a year for the pleasure of parking theirs cars outside there own house. The reason Derby city council gave for this charge was “a fee to cover the cost of enforcing the scheme”.

Why should people who live in areas that are liable to parking congestion be penalised?

matsalleh
04-04-2005, 14:26
Who will police the scheme if it were to happen?You would need a 24 hr cover to deter non residents especially on match days.I was not having a go at anyone, streets of terrace houses simply are not big enough these days.

msdiane
04-04-2005, 19:17
The guy who first told us of this proposed scheme is business based so I'm not sure if what he quotes is for the business or residents or both, he has been told it will be £250 per annum for a single permit, again this is only speculation and hearsay nothing in writing. He also says a friend of his pays this amount for a permit on a road near the Yew Tree??
I cant help agree with the quote of who will police this, Swan Morton workers have nowhere to park except on near by streets so it aint just the local shoppers. My other half gets irate if he cant park but I'm more logical and think well I chose to live in a built up busy area ........ so tough no point gettin a hernia about it :D

HotPhil
05-04-2005, 06:46
The Bus Lane Enforcement thread (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34849) states that parking restriction enforcement has now moved to local authority responsibility.
Is that the sound of a penny dropping??
Pure revenue-generation or a benefit to the community?