View Full Version : Ikea to move in at hillsboro


spikey
31-03-2005, 15:24
I like ikea but I think the roads would find it struggle. middlewood road would need to ba altered

AndrewC
31-03-2005, 15:26
Is this another april fools? I don't think Ikea would build a store so far away from the M1. don valley would be a much safer option for them should they want a store near sheffield.

redinsheff
31-03-2005, 15:30
if a new ASDA store off middlewood road has been knocked back, then how do they expect to get an Ikea in there...???

Fearful
31-03-2005, 15:33
When they build an Ikea store, do they need a really big allen key? ;)

beansfeast
31-03-2005, 15:43
Originally posted by Fearful
When they build an Ikea store, do they need a really big allen key? ;)


Yes they do!
But that's the least of their problems... they also have to find a site big enough to lay all the parts out and count them first! :clap: :D

HotPhil
31-03-2005, 16:16
Sorry, I must have missed the news on this one? Where's the proposed site?

mjlacey21
31-03-2005, 16:40
... and then they have to wait for the missing parts to be posted to them.

Rich
31-03-2005, 16:55
D'oh! It's not April Fool's Day till tomorrow ya know... :loopy:

People in Hillsborough don't need an Ikea... An ASDA would be preferable, but it would cause competition issues for shops like Netto and the Co-Op.

saxon51
31-03-2005, 17:03
Originally posted by mjlacey21
... and then they have to wait for the missing parts to be posted to them.

Then they can't open till a new road is built to the rear because that's where the doors are, and it is too heavy to turn around, and they can't be bothered to dismantle it. So they cut another door in the bit that faces the front and the whole thing collapses because that was a supporting section. So they leave it in a pile and decide to sort it out tomorrow.......:(

BoroughGal
31-03-2005, 23:57
I thought Sheffield Council had said no to Ikea, in their infinate wisdom. I mean, all that money that Ikea could bring into the city - why would we want that? Especially at Don Valley where it would bother nobody.

Can't really see the reason why not, personally.

youwhatref
01-04-2005, 05:56
They did say no to Ikea. Same guys/glas who said no to the large YES entertainment out near Rother Valley as they dont want is to detract from the City Centre!! Same reason was given for saying no to Ikea.

When are the council going to wake up and realise that you cant park in the centre and that people want choice!!!

HotPhil
01-04-2005, 07:02
I thought the proposed Ikea that was turned down was somewhere close to the city centre and was declined because of concerns of extra traffic on the Parkway?

willman
01-04-2005, 08:19
the ikea initially was for the YEB buidings on the Parkway but Sheffield Council refused due to poor infrastructure, traffic etc.

Fearful
01-04-2005, 08:19
I thought Rotherham council put the stops on Ikea (it would have been closer to Rotherham) because they thought it would affect trade over there. - Maybe I was misinformed.

What we need on Middlewood road is not an Ikea or and Asda but a decent indian take-away. :):)

kingfisher
01-04-2005, 14:02
Now that Sainsbury,s are moving out of Meadowhell maybe that would be an ideal place for ikea,adjacent to the M1,adequate parking

andrex
01-04-2005, 15:18
hi to everyone on the forum this is my first post. i can't believe i didnt know about the site until now. i use quite a few different on line forums on various topics but this one has got to be the best.


ikea always go for out of town sites i remember visting the one near leeds one bank holiday and i have never seen traffic queues as big as they were on that particular day.

if the council ever reversed their decision it would be difficult to find a suitable site anywhere in the city that wouldn't add to the horrendous traffic queues that this fine city has everyday. i have lived in quite a few different cities in the uk and have never seen traffic like it is in sheffield. leeds is much more car friendly than sheffield.

Bilge
01-04-2005, 15:55
I thought ikea were off to Donny? They've got a depot there already.

Rich
01-04-2005, 16:00
Originally posted by andrex
hi to everyone on the forum this is my first post. i can't believe i didnt know about the site until now. i use quite a few different on line forums on various topics but this one has got to be the best.


ikea always go for out of town sites i remember visting the one near leeds one bank holiday and i have never seen traffic queues as big as they were on that particular day.

if the council ever reversed their decision it would be difficult to find a suitable site anywhere in the city that wouldn't add to the horrendous traffic queues that this fine city has everyday. i have lived in quite a few different cities in the uk and have never seen traffic like it is in sheffield. leeds is much more car friendly than sheffield.

Probably cos L**ds City Council aren't as stupid or anti-car as the "Powers that be" here in Sheffield :gag:

alchresearch
01-04-2005, 17:21
Originally posted by andrex
ikea always go for out of town sites i remember visting the one near leeds one bank holiday and i have never seen traffic queues as big as they were on that particular day.

The access roads at the Leeds store are terrible.

The one near Warrington was just as bad but they built a new motorway junction on the M62 to ease the congestion.

nuf_said
01-04-2005, 19:57
Originally posted by Rich
Probably cos L**ds City Council aren't as stupid or anti-car as the "Powers that be" here in Sheffield :gag:

Spot on and 'Nuf Said'

BobDaBuilder
02-04-2005, 06:40
Taking trade from the city-centre....? Excuse me if I sound a little harsh here but do you ppl up here really consider Sheffield city centre to actually be a city centre..? Being from Birmingham I look at the city centre and can't help myself but laugh, I can do the entire centre in under an hour, Birmingham, Manchester, Plymouth, Liverpool etc takes me nearly a whole shopping day just to walk round, so maybe instead of saying no to everyone maybe it's time they started to say yes.....everyone I know goes to Leeds or Brum for the choice already....

The biggest city-centre experience for anyone who has never left Sheffield has gotta be Meadowhall and that's not getting anywhere near the guiness book of records is it....:loopy: :loopy:

andrex
02-04-2005, 16:29
got to agree with bob da builder on that last post. im leeds born and bred so i might be a little biased but sheffield city centre is more like a town than a city and the choice of shops is quite poor.

compared to leeds which has many more shops and what i believe to be the best markets anywhere in the uk. anyway lets not mention markets because sheffields markets are not worthy of mentioning they are terrible.

the best place to shop in sheffield is definatly meadowhall.

chalicefc3
02-04-2005, 16:34
Originally posted by BobDaBuilder
I can do the entire centre in under an hour, Birmingham, Manchester, Plymouth, Liverpool etc takes me nearly a whole shopping day just to walk round, so maybe instead of saying no to everyone maybe it's time they started to say yes

Yeah but no offence but Plymouth is the biggest hole of a city centre in the country - its such a dump that even parkhill flats would be considered as a daring new development.

1_HotGal
02-04-2005, 17:00
I like ikea, it would be great if one was in Sheffield, helping to raising levels in the employment market and all that. The best site for it would be, imo, at the Markets.

Get rid of that eyesore of a building and all the chavs that shop there in one fell swoop!! :clap: :clap:

Andy C
02-04-2005, 20:28
A planning application has been put in for the markets area...

Site Of Sheaf Market Exchange Street Sheffield : Erection of a 114 bedroomed hotel , 400 space multi-storey car park and 3 retail units (use classes A1/A2/A3) (revised scheme)

Strix
02-04-2005, 23:05
We have a friend who works for the development department in Ikea. Hillsborough was not mentioned when he gave us a rundown of current projects. Although Ikea own a fair few plots of land, some are strategic purchases, which are not currently intended for development

cheeky_gee
03-04-2005, 10:32
Well,i do hope that ikea comes to sheffield.We were ment to have one,but the concil and ikea couldn't decide on a place to have it.So ikea pulled out and B&Q took the place on middlewood road.how many B&Q's do we need???

lazyfish
04-04-2005, 13:32
It is odd how nearly everyone seems to say "the council said no to Ikea" when what actually happened is that (as CheekyGee says), the council was concerned about the congestion that would have been caused by the location Ikea proposed, and Ikea then said "stuff this, we're off to Donny".

And if the council *had* given them the green light then you can bet your mortgage that the same people who are now moaning about the council "saying no to Ikea" would then be moaning about the council not building a new road to relieve all the congestion they caused by saying yes to Ikea.

If you ask me we've got the best of both worlds now. We don't get the traffic problems, and if we want to buy Ikea stuff or work there then we can nip down the road to Donny. It's not like it's the other side of the planet.

alchresearch
04-04-2005, 13:39
Originally posted by lazyfish
If you ask me we've got the best of both worlds now. We don't get the traffic problems, and if we want to buy Ikea stuff or work there then we can nip down the road to Donny. It's not like it's the other side of the planet.

That's not the point. The point of an Ikea in Sheffield is to bring tourists and visitors from outside the city to Sheffield and spend their money and time here.

You build an Ikea in Doncaster and people are going to then visit the Yorkshire Outlet, maybe the aircraft museum and all the other attractions in the area.

It's the same with the Leeds and Warrington Ikeas. Both are on big leisure retail parks. I'd never been to Warrington until I went to that Ikea. Now that I know there are other big shops around there, it's usually the first place I think of if I need a few things from different stores. I wouldn't go all the way to Warrington just to shop at Ikea then travel all the way back to get other things from Manchester.

lazyfish
04-04-2005, 13:50
Originally posted by alchresearch
That's not the point. The point of an Ikea in Sheffield is to bring tourists and visitors from outside the city to Sheffield and spend their money and time here.

Well, maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but I always thought the point of a shop was so you could buy stuff. I don't really understand this obsession with getting people to come here.

In any case, if a visitor is attracted to the city by the opportunity to spend money in the local outlet of a large multinational retail chain, doesn't that money just go straight back out of the city and into the pockets of shareholders?

Musey
04-04-2005, 17:51
Originally posted by alchresearch
That's not the point. The point of an Ikea in Sheffield is to bring tourists and visitors from outside the city to Sheffield and spend their money and time here.

You build an Ikea in Doncaster and people are going to then visit the Yorkshire Outlet, maybe the aircraft museum and all the other attractions in the area.

It's the same with the Leeds and Warrington Ikeas. Both are on big leisure retail parks. I'd never been to Warrington until I went to that Ikea. Now that I know there are other big shops around there, it's usually the first place I think of if I need a few things from different stores. I wouldn't go all the way to Warrington just to shop at Ikea then travel all the way back to get other things from Manchester.

I didn't think the IKEA place in Doncaster was a store, I thought it was their distribution warehouse. I'd love to be wrong though.

lazyfish
04-04-2005, 17:55
Originally posted by Musey
I didn't think the IKEA place in Doncaster was a store, I thought it was their distribution warehouse. I'd love to be wrong though.

There is a distribution place there, but I thought they were putting a shop there as well. Could be wrong, but I go past there quite regularly and there's definitely summat being built next to the existing warehouse thingy.

alchresearch
04-04-2005, 18:35
Originally posted by lazyfish
Well, maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but I always thought the point of a shop was so you could buy stuff. I don't really understand this obsession with getting people to come here.

Because Sheffield is dying and doing too little too late. You probably don't notice it much because you live there but if you look at it through the eyes of someone who doesn't live there you see it.

I realise there is a lot of regeneration going on at the minute in the city, but that is happening in other cities throughout the UK. Sheffield is doing nothing more than everyone else and, as a result, isn't standing out as a visitor destination.

For every person that travels to Leeds or Nottingham from Sheffield to visit Ikea, thats one less person helping keep a local in employment and ploughing money, no matter how insignificant back into the local economy.

Musey
04-04-2005, 18:51
Originally posted by lazyfish
There is a distribution place there, but I thought they were putting a shop there as well. Could be wrong, but I go past there quite regularly and there's definitely summat being built next to the existing warehouse thingy.

Yea I went past there the other week and thought they looked like they were extending. It's be great if they opened a store there.

lazyfish
04-04-2005, 19:10
Originally posted by alchresearch
Because Sheffield is dying and doing too little too late. You probably don't notice it much because you live there but if you look at it through the eyes of someone who doesn't live there you see it.

"Sheffield is dying"? What does that even mean? If you're talking about economics then isn't that a bit melodramatic?

Well, when I used to come up here before I moved, I didn't think Sheffield was dying or doing too little too late. I thought it was great. That's why I moved here, in fact. I still think it's great. I don't want my city to 'compete' with other cities, or any of that stuff. I know people need work and what have you, but if work is created at all costs then all of us lose out.