Sheffield Star (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/39Compelling-case39-for-World-Cup.4062026.jp) reports that McCabe thinks Bramall Lane have a "compelling" case for World Cup matches to be held there.

Time was when Bramall Lane was the premier ground in all Yorkshire; more recently, it's always been Hillsborough. Right now, I don't think either ground has merit, but given twelve years to complete the job, I suppose it could be done.

Of course, if we make as big a god-awful catastrophe of the Olympics as I still expect us to, the whole point will be moot. :D

Sheffield Star (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/39Compelling-case39-for-World-Cup.4062026.jp) reports that McCabe thinks Bramall Lane have a "compelling" case for World Cup matches to be held there.

Time was when Bramall Lane was the premier ground in all Yorkshire; more recently, it's always been Hillsborough. Right now, I don't think either ground has merit, but given twelve years to complete the job, I suppose it could be done.

Of course, if we make as big a god-awful catastrophe of the Olympics as I still expect us to, the whole point will be moot. :D

Dont see why not.

I think Andorra Vs Malta will be the best game played at either of our stadiums though :hihi: .

Our stadiums arnt bad, but there are a lot more better ones.

yep, i cant see either ever hosting a world cup match, there are much better stadiums around at the moment

Old Trafford
Anfield
Emitates
Stamford Bridge
St James
Stadium of light
City of Manchester Stadium
Riverside
ect ect
We are both a long way behind many teams in terms of stadiums
Even Southampton have got a better place than both of ours

Only world cup football you'll see in Sheffield will be on the tv,both of our grounds aren't up to it.

only International team would play at a guess would be under 21's and ladies Football.

Both club's just don't have the seating to satisfy the amount who attend this type of event.

Didnt an England game get played at Burnley or something?:confused:

Didnt an England game get played at Burnley or something?:confused:

The Under 21's was played at Derby County a couple of years ago.

Only world cup football you'll see in Sheffield will be on the tv,both of our grounds aren't up to it.

By 2018 they could be - There's certainly enough room at Hillsborough to make it a 50,000 all seater stadium - The Lane might be too constrained on the John Street & Bramall Lane sides to be much bigger.

Sheffield Star (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/39Compelling-case39-for-World-Cup.4062026.jp) reports that McCabe thinks Bramall Lane have a "compelling" case for World Cup matches to be held there.

Time was when Bramall Lane was the premier ground in all Yorkshire; more recently, it's always been Hillsborough. Right now, I don't think either ground has merit, but given twelve years to complete the job, I suppose it could be done.

Of course, if we make as big a god-awful catastrophe of the Olympics as I still expect us to, the whole point will be moot. :D


mcCabe's plans were to knock the kop end down and build a two tier structure. and to put another tier at the top of the south stand a bit like wendys south stand. so i imagine the capacity would be around 45,000. i believe these plans were shelved when we were relegated,.

oh and by the way heyesay the cricket pitch as gone.;)

Didnt an England game get played at Burnley or something?:confused:

u21 game fella.

However, England toured the country, playing at various places when Wembley was being re-built rather than just going for Old Trafford.

I think if Bramall Lane were to get to a capacity of 45,000 we would have a good shout at getting one of the groups played here.

Whether the realisation of getting it to that figure is possible is another matter.

Don't forget there's 10 years to go guys. There's also an article in the Star saying how McCabe is looking to expand Bumhole Lane to 40,000 and make it suitable to hold World Cup matches. Even as a Wednesday fan I welcome this as the benefits for the city would be huge.

When a takeover goes through for Wednesday, if they invest a bit in the ground they could get that up to World Cup standard as well. Although as only one city (i.e. London) is allowed two stadiums it would have to be a choice between the two, and at the current rate I could see United getting it.

If we can get at least one ground up to the right standards, I would say Sheffield has as good a chance - if not better considering the history (and the fact the guy behind the WC bid is a Sheffield MP ;)) - as any city at hosting World Cup games.

Last week on the radio Kevin McCabe said he still wanted to go ahead with the ground redevelopment.

I may have misheard but he seemed to say that Bramall Lane was already the largest ground in Yorkshire, but I presume he meant it would be if the development goes ahead.

But even at 40,000 or more would Sheffield really get any World Cup matches.

I don't think so.

For the fringe grounds I think the matches will go to newer grounds that aren't in the heart of the cities.

I may have misheard but he seemed to say that Bramall Lane was already the largest ground in Yorkshire, but I presume he meant it would be if the development goes ahead.


Largest in terms of area occupied, maybe? (Including all the gubbins they're building on what used to be the car park?)

Definitely not largest in terms of maximum crowd size. I'm struggling to think of any other definition he could have meant - other than "largest ground" in the same sense as "biggest club" that gets argued about on here.



Incidentally, I've just checked up on the 2006 World Cup in Germany; the smallest stadium used was 44,000, and several others were around the 45,000 mark.

The obvious inclusions would be Wembley and Ashburton Grove; Old Trafford; the new Anfield, if it ever gets built;
Newcastle? Villa Park? Sunderland?

We'd probably use nine or ten stadiums. Maybe more; Germany used twelve.

But even at 40,000 or more would Sheffield really get any World Cup matches..

There are many defining reasons Sheffield MAY get a look in IF a ground was brought to a suitable standard......

Home of football, Worlds first football club, the UK's oldest stadium, we're in a good catchment for a lot of interest.

If a team isn't found from Yorkshire, you're going to be excluding a lot of football fans. Of course Manchester has 2 stadiums capable, but can only have one being used. The next nearest one...... Villa park maybe? Or St James? Both a 2 hour drive really from here north and south, missing a massive chuck of fans.

I think the idea isn't as daft as people make out, but a lot of work will needed to make us realise what we want to achieve.

A quick trip to Wikipedia gives these as the 17 biggest-capacity stadiums in England, as of whenever the list was written but it doesn't look too badly out of date.

Wembley
Old Trafford
Ashburton Grove
St. James' Park
Stadium of Light
City of Manchester Stadium
Anfield
Villa Park
Stamford Bridge
Goodison Park
Elland Road
Hillsborough
White Hart Lane
Upton Park
Riverside Stadium
Pride Park
Bramall Lane

The ones in italics can't be used as a bigger stadium from the same city (two such, for London) is already down.

That means, purely on capacity, Elland Road is 8th and Hillsborough 9th. Given the inevitable claim by various Blades that neither ground is up to scratch and should be discarded, that makes Bramall Lane 10th on the list.

I'd say, assuming investment to improve the stadium, that one or other Sheffield ground is a certainty to be used. At this point, given financial positions, Bramall Lane is the ground more likely to get the investment; but a lot can change in the next six years. We might go down and the Owls go back up :hihi:

biggest does'nt mean best.

biggest does'nt mean best.

exactly. It's isn't the size of it, it's what you do with it that matters as they say :D

exactly. It's isn't the size of it, it's what you do with it that matters as they say :D


exactly. most horses are well endowed but it does'nt neccessarily make them sensitive lovers.

biggest does'nt mean best.

True - and the argument behind Bramall Lane rather than Hillsborough being a candidate. Still, a stadium with the best facilities in the entire world and a capacity of twenty-seven people, won't get selected. Size is not the ONLY thing that matters, in this instance ... but it does matter.

True - and the argument behind Bramall Lane rather than Hillsborough being a candidate. Still, a stadium with the best facilities in the entire world and a capacity of twenty-seven people, won't get selected. Size is not the ONLY thing that matters, in this instance ... but it does matter.


yes but we hav'nt got a capaity of 27 :loopy: its 32,000 and plans to expand. surely when we get the world cup sheffield has to be a top choice being the city that gave the game to the world.

also if we put our name forward as a venue. we might get help paying for ground improvements like wendy did in 66.

yes but we hav'nt got a capaity of 27 :loopy: its 32,000 and plans to expand.


Point proven. Size matters.

Point proven. Size matters.

of course it does if your comparing 27 to 32,000. but your comparing the sty to lane. 36,000 to 32,000 with plans to expand.

back in the 70's charltons valley held 70,000 but it was'nt as good as say anfield, goodison, villa park and dare i say it....... no.

my point proven.

of course it does if your comparing 27 to 32,000. but your comparing the sty to lane.


No I'm not. You might be, but I'm not responsible for whatever random tangents you decided to go off to.

also if we put our name forward as a venue. we might get help paying for ground improvements like wendy did in 66.

i think we got some help with euro 96 aswell :thumbsup:maybe wrong

of course it does if your comparing 27 to 32,000. but your comparing the sty to lane. 36,000 to 32,000 with plans to expand.


No I'm not. You might be, but I'm not responsible for whatever random tangents you decided to go off to.



quote mr logic
"That means, purely on capacity, Elland Road is 8th and Hillsborough 9th. Given the inevitable claim by various Blades that neither ground is up to scratch and should be discarded, that makes Bramall Lane 10th on the list."

:loopy::loopy::loopy::loopy::loopy::loopy::loopy:: loopy:

Couple of things:

Hillsborough's capacity is over 39,000, not 36,000.

Second of all, there is very little that you can do to Bramall Lane in way of expansion due to proximity of other buildings and infrastructure. The entire site probably has a 35,000 - 40,000 upper limit. You could say that whatever you do with Bramall Lane, it will NEVER be as big as Hillsborough. Not that it needs to be either :hihi:.

Finally, I'd just like to ask, what has happened to plans to put a new level on the top of your kop? Wasn't that supposed to be last year and was put on hold until this year? Not run out of money have they (see threads on wage bill reductions)? Not realised they don't need it have they?

At the end of the day don't kid yourselves - if they are going to put forward a ground in this area for 2018, we ALL know which they'll choose - the same on the ALWAYS do.

Couple of things:

Hillsborough's capacity is over 39,000, not 36,000.

Second of all, there is very little that you can do to Bramall Lane in way of expansion due to proximity of other buildings and infrastructure. The entire site probably has a 35,000 - 40,000 upper limit. You could say that whatever you do with Bramall Lane, it will NEVER be as big as Hillsborough. Not that it needs to be either :hihi:.

Finally, I'd just like to ask, what has happened to plans to put a new level on the top of your kop? Wasn't that supposed to be last year and was put on hold until this year? Not run out of money have they (see threads on wage bill reductions)? Not realised they don't need it have they?

At the end of the day don't kid yourselves - if they are going to put forward a ground in this area for 2018, we ALL know which they'll choose - the same on the ALWAYS do.

Just to keep you in the loop frank permission to extend the Kop and South Stand (which both had acres of space behind them) has already been granted. Work on the Kop will start when we get promoted back to the PL which will increase the stadium to 36k and another tier on top of the south stand will increase the capacity even further to 40k (which is subject to us been granted permission to host a World Cup match.

I see no reason Bramall Lane shouldn't host a World Cup match, its the oldest League Ground in the World, it has modern facilities, Sheffield is the home of Football. I certainly give Sheffield the nod over Leeds and also Bramall Lane over Hillsborough, i'm not been funny but the WC is played in June and July and if Hillsborough is at risk of been under 10 foot of water it'll be a non starter already plus it still has the stigma of the Hillsborough Disaster attached to it.

For a WC match to be hosted in Yorkshire i would say Bramall Lane is the obvious choice.

Just to keep you in the loop frank permission to extend the Kop and South Stand (which both had acres of space behind them) has already been granted. Work on the Kop will start when we get promoted back to the PL which will increase the stadium to 36k and another tier on top of the south stand will increase the capacity even further to 40k (which is subject to us been granted permission to host a World Cup match.

I see no reason Bramall Lane shouldn't host a World Cup match, its the oldest League Ground in the World, it has modern facilities, Sheffield is the home of Football. I certainly give Sheffield the nod over Leeds and also Bramall Lane over Hillsborough, i'm not been funny but the WC is played in June and July and if Hillsborough is at risk of been under 10 foot of water it'll be a non starter already plus it still has the stigma of the Hillsborough Disaster attached to it.

For a WC match to be hosted in Yorkshire i would say Bramall Lane is the obvious choice.


really ? anyway been there done that
have your world cup games at the lane :rolleyes:

really ? anyway been there done that
have your world cup games at the lane :rolleyes:

Been there done that, 42yrs ago i wasn't even born so it would be nice for future generations to see world cup football hosted in Sheffield.

We've got 10yrs to work in it so i won't be losing any sleep over it.

Unless this investment is forthcoming the question is will Wednesday be around in 10yrs? :hihi:

Been there done that, 42yrs ago i wasn't even born so it would be nice for future generations to see world cup football hosted in Sheffield.

We've got 10yrs to work in it so i won't be losing any sleep over it.

Unless this investment is forthcoming the question is will Wednesday be around in 10yrs? :hihi: ok have your w.c games
"i'm not been funny":rolleyes: but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz next

Work on the Kop will start when we get promoted back to the PL which will increase the stadium to 36k and another tier on top of the south stand will increase the capacity even further to 40k (which is subject to us been granted permission to host a World Cup match.

So Frank's right then, it won't be getting extended :D

So Frank's right then, it won't be getting extended :D

hahaha!! Probably not!!

Sheffield Star (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sportheadlines/39Compelling-case39-for-World-Cup.4062026.jp) reports that McCabe thinks Bramall Lane have a "compelling" case for World Cup matches to be held there.

Time was when Bramall Lane was the premier ground in all Yorkshire; more recently, it's always been Hillsborough. Right now, I don't think either ground has merit, but given twelve years to complete the job, I suppose it could be done.

Of course, if we make as big a god-awful catastrophe of the Olympics as I still expect us to, the whole point will be moot. :D


It's not big enough unfortunately.