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LornaF
08-05-2008, 11:35
Anyone else had this happen to them????
I am seriously narked and need to just have a bit of a rant so I don't tell my employer to stick it where the sun don't shine!!!!
Took a job supposed to be Sales and Marketing Assistant simply supporting the manager in arranging travel, sending mail shots etc.
Job was supposed to be 13 week temp to perm amd has now been extended for 13 weeks with no guaruntee of permanent position.
Job was sold to me on it's main benefit, 10 weeks paid hols per year, but as I am working through an agency I only get 4.5 weeks per annum and I am facing a situation with no pay for two weeks over the summer, as they are not prepared to pay my holiday.
The job I am doing is an account manager job, I am cold calling, developing business both in the UK and overseas and I feel I am really being had over.
I made sales of £7k in my first 9 weeks yet they will not even consider paying me holiday.
I have just returned to work after having my first child and what I earn is our disposable income.
My employer just does not seem to care about the situation and I am extremely unhappy as I feel i've been taken for a ride and I obviously can't just leave until I find something else.

happylady
08-05-2008, 12:37
To be honest your in a difficult position, would get in touch with the agency and ask them to find alternative jobs. From what you describe I wouldn't want a perm job with them if they treat people in this way.

From my temping experience I've had a few situations where the agency has described a job and then got there and found it was totally different. Think sometimes is a case of agencies wanting to fill posts whatever way they can.

Grandad.Malky
08-05-2008, 12:47
To be honest your in a difficult position, would get in touch with the agency and ask them to find alternative jobs. From what you describe I wouldn't want a perm job with them if they treat people in this way.

From my temping experience I've had a few situations where the agency has described a job and then got there and found it was totally different. Think sometimes is a case of agencies wanting to fill posts whatever way they can.

What do you mean “sometimes” that’s what agencies do, agency work should be viewed as a stop gap, nothing more, as far as they are concerned you are cannon fodder, there are plenty more queuing up for work if you decide to move on.

LornaF
08-05-2008, 15:12
If you work as a temp then that is a stop gap. But if you are told that the job will go perm then that is different.
I made it perfectly clear at interview that I was looking for a permanant position and that I also had other offers on the table which I turned down.
Agency hasn't got anything at the moment and to be honest as said before I doubt I would want to work for my employer if this is how little I am valued.

DAC_MAN
09-05-2008, 07:13
10 weeks holiday sounds a lot! As an Agency worker you accrue holiday pay, it is worked out as a percentage of what you have earned and paid to you by your Agency as they are your employer. Speak to your Agency about it.

Grandad.Malky
09-05-2008, 08:16
If you work as a temp then that is a stop gap. But if you are told that the job will go perm then that is different.
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Many of them say Temp / Permanent, I would take that with a pinch of salt.

LornaF
09-05-2008, 12:03
Having worked in recruitment i do know how the system works. 10 weeks paid holiday is because it's a manufacturing company who shut down at various times during the year. As far as I'm concerned it should not have been sold to me as a benefit because it's not relevant for agency workers, who i believe accrue 22 days per annum.

LornaF
22-05-2008, 09:44
I'm contacting ACAS as I feel I am being treate very unfairly.
Feel i'm being singled out as the only non white employee and that because i'm a temp then it's okay to treat me like this.
This is supposed to be a world renowned company, but I guess they still don't have to treat their staff with any respect.

DippyDore
26-05-2008, 06:08
I think ACAS are the best people to advise you.

I wonder what you have in writing in terms of a contract? If you took a job without getting the terms and conditions and job specification in writing then more fool you. You should have been very suspicious of them if they didn't put this in writing and ask you to sign, giving you a copy for your own records.

If you did have this in writing then what they have done, i.e. apparently change the terms and conditions of your contract, is illegal unless of course you signed to agree to it.

I don't know why you have brought the "race" element into this. Have you reason to believe that as a "non-white" person you are being treated differently? Or are you doing as so many other "non-whites" do and try and use your race to greater effect in these situations? My advice to you would be to make sure you have strong grounds for introducing any suggestion of racialism in this case. Put bluntly, employee tribunals are sick to the back teeth of people playing the race card to try and get their way. If there is genuine reason for you to believe you are being treated differently because of your race then by all means pursue it with a vengance - but from what you've written it sounds to me like you haven't got a proper contract and they are taking advantage of you because of that and not because you are a different colour skin.

LornaF
27-05-2008, 10:24
dippy Dore, comments taken on board, fyi the job was a temp to perm via agency. I should have been more wary about the offer in the first place.
In terms of race, from day one I have felt uncomfortable in that place. Examples are people in the same room being asked fir drinks while i am just ignored. I request samples for customers, yet they are always dealt with last. I have been waiting for quotes for 4-6 weeks while other consultant working for them gets them done almost immediately.
Maybe it's not a race thing, however I have been in this situation before and it is very hard. At first you try to ignore it but when yiu are being treated differently then the idea that it is a race thing comes to the fore.
I also believe that companies can single people out and most of the time it's not made obvious yet the employee is left feeling that people have a problem with them.
At the end of the day once I find a new job, i'll put this down to experience and move on.

rob-s
10-06-2008, 13:04
The huge problem with most agencies is that they define you as "self employed" but this is untrue and unfair. If you tell them that you are going to a tribunal about something, they will say "But you can't, you are self employed" - but they take tax from your wages at source, the take National Insurance at source, and if you look at your wage slip, there will be an "Employer's National Insurance Contribution" - you are not self employed. If they admit to being your employer and you work at a computer, they should pay for your eye tests and glasses - that's the law, but by classing you as self employed, they wriggle out of their responsibility - and there are loads of things you lose out on by being described as self employed.
I once had a run in with an agency over eye tests and glasses - they said they had no responsibility as I was self employed so I said that as the glasses were needed for my work, I should be able to make a claim against my tax, but suddenly the goalposts moved and I was employed - only to be told, when I asked for equal treatment to the rest of the team on another matter that I was self employed again. I was given a written warning because of my "militant attitude" and said that I would go to a tribunal and I was told that I couldn't go to a tribunal as I was self employed. When I mentioned that it is against the law to give a written or verbal warning to a self-employed person (you can only be given an official warning by your employer) - the whole thing was dropped - agencies - waste of time.