I just heard on the news that Sainsburys are to close their Meadowhall store.
I wonder who will be moving into their premises, it's a hell of a kick in the teeth for Meadowhall.

Really suprised at that decision.

It's always so busy????

Did the news story give any reason?

Originally posted by LoopyLou
Really suprised at that decision.

It's always so busy????

Did the news story give any reason?

Seems as if they are moving their business to Crystal Peaks, but it's all explained here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4394041.stm

My guess is that Crystal peaks floorspace is somewhat cheaper than Meadowhall floorspace?

And somewhat less congested to get to (esp @ Xmas).

Originally posted by hotphil
And somewhat less congested to get to (esp @ Xmas).

you've gotta be kidding? you can barely park at crystal peaks on a good day at the moment! let alone if they decide to make sainsbury's there a major one :P all they're doing round that area is getting rid of parking spaces to build more shops...

yeah, they're building a two story car park... but there will still be less spaces than there were originally before all the drakehouse stuff!

and how many shops are gonna fit where sainsbury's in meadowhell was? thats a HUGE plot of space!

I wonder what will take its place?
I would like to see the world's biggest Molton Brown store created.

Sorry Xafier, I meant to put a question mark at the end of that post as I'm not 100% familiar with Crystal Peaks!

Didn't the Sainsbury's used to be bigger at Meadowhall and get reduced in size a few years back anyway? I don't think they'll have much trouble selling/using the space again.

Originally posted by xafier
you've gotta be kidding? you can barely park at crystal peaks on a good day at the moment! let alone if they decide to make sainsbury's there a major one :P all they're doing round that area is getting rid of parking spaces to build more shops...

yeah, they're building a two story car park... but there will still be less spaces than there were originally before all the drakehouse stuff!

and how many shops are gonna fit where sainsbury's in meadowhell was? thats a HUGE plot of space!

The roads around Crystal Peaks are becoming a joke about time eckington road was made Dual Carraige way.

I still feel that Morrisons will still be the first choice for people around Halfway ETC when the new Sainsbury's opens, as there are more of their type of customers around here(Chavs inbreads etc).
Sainsburys is only ever busy in the Peaks when the Reduced pricing gun comes out!

It might improve the image of Crystal Peaks, it has become a bit of a dump.

Originally posted by hotphil
Sorry Xafier, I meant to put a question mark at the end of that post as I'm not 100% familiar with Crystal Peaks!

Didn't the Sainsbury's used to be bigger at Meadowhall and get reduced in size a few years back anyway? I don't think they'll have much trouble selling/using the space again.

Sainsbury's in Meadowhell use to take up the space where H&M,BHS and Intersports(what ever its called)are now located.
And was called Savercentre.

Originally posted by unners
I wonder what will take its place?
I would like to see the world's biggest Molton Brown store created.

I'd love to see a Molton Brown store open!!!!! What a spiffing idea!!! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by nick2
It might improve the image of Crystal Peaks, it has become a bit of a dump.

I think 'The Peaks' as it's known around these parts should have a rebrand such as Chav'sville.

Originally posted by hotphil
Sorry Xafier, I meant to put a question mark at the end of that post as I'm not 100% familiar with Crystal Peaks!

Didn't the Sainsbury's used to be bigger at Meadowhall and get reduced in size a few years back anyway? I don't think they'll have much trouble selling/using the space again.

Sainsburys was much bigger when it was Sainsburys Savacentre; it took up all the space that Mothercare / H&M / BhS / Halifax etc occupy now.

I seem to remember that it was Meadowhall who told Sainsbury's they had to downsize that store; maybe they've been shoved out all together this time?

K x

EDIT: That obciously took too long to type, as it's now already been said!

Originally posted by JonJParr
I'd love to see a Molton Brown store open!!!!! What a spiffing idea!!! :thumbsup:

My bathroom is like a shrine to Molton Brown, infact i might open the bathroom as a franchise for the South Sheffield area.

Originally posted by unners
My bathroom is like a shrine to Molton Brown, infact i might open the bathroom as a franchise for the South Sheffield area.

A Molton Brown's in Sheffield - yes please! But what would be even better - a Space NK - I'd never leave the place! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

StarSparkle

What about a play area like they have for the kids, but for grown ups! Or just lots of sofas with Sky Sports on that us menfolk can be plonked in front of while the ladies do their apothecary browsing/other shopping.
And a go-kart track.
And a water park.
And a bowling alley.

Originally posted by hotphil
What about a play area like they have for the kids, but for grown ups! Or just lots of sofas with Sky Sports on that us menfolk can be plonked in front of while the ladies do their apothecary browsing/other shopping.
And a go-kart track.
And a water park.
And a bowling alley.


not all ladies lurve shopping.

Can we sit in the adult play area too..... (that sounds so wrong!!)

Yes, I did type "can we have an adult play area" first. Then realised how that sounded and reworded! :heyhey:

Originally posted by LoopyLou
not all ladies lurve shopping.

Can we sit in the adult play area too..... (that sounds so wrong!!)

And not all men dislike shopping! Comes very high up my list of passtimes! :)

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
And not all men dislike shopping! Comes very high up my list of passtimes! :)

K x

Snap! I love nothing more than spending an hour or two in Harvey Nichs buying some new shirts!

Originally posted by JonJParr
Snap! I love nothing more than spending an hour or two in Harvey Nichs buying some new shirts!

Thats more like shopping as I see it. Browsing the bargains in Iceland and Superdrug is not the same.

Originally posted by StarSparkle
A Molton Brown's in Sheffield - yes please! But what would be even better - a Space NK - I'd never leave the place! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

StarSparkle

Excuse my ignorance but I've never heard of either of these 2. I suppose that comes with never having lived anywhere else but Sheffield.:confused: Please tell - what do these sell?

http://www.moltonbrown.co.uk/ - Things that smell

http://www.spacenk.co.uk/ - same

:)

Originally posted by wendy
Excuse my ignorance but I've never heard of either of these 2. I suppose that comes with never having lived anywhere else but Sheffield.:confused: Please tell - what do these sell?

I am glad I am not alone in never having heard of them Wendy, and I hope Molton Brown isn't the same as Runny Brown, cos that's all crap :rolleyes:

Originally posted by owdlad
I am glad I am not alone in never having heard of them Wendy, and I hope Molton Brown isn't the same as Runny Brown, cos that's all crap :rolleyes:

You're not far off the mark there Owdlad, though what kind of man would buy this kind of overpriced pretentious crap...

http://www.moltonbrown.co.uk/shop/shopDetail.cfm?category=8

...I have to wonder about :P

Ah, but the ladies love it!:partyhat:

That is suprising actually- it always looks busy!!!!

Im gonna bet that tesco move straight in there!!!!

Originally posted by Greybeard
You're not far off the mark there Owdlad, though what kind of man would buy this kind of overpriced pretentious crap...

http://www.moltonbrown.co.uk/shop/shopDetail.cfm?category=8

...I have to wonder about :P

A man that likes to look after himself and its a lot better than using soap and water.

There are cheaper places to buy Molton Brown than their shops.

Originally posted by Greybeard
You're not far off the mark there Owdlad, though what kind of man would buy this kind of overpriced pretentious crap...

http://www.moltonbrown.co.uk/shop/shopDetail.cfm?category=8

...I have to wonder about :P

certainly not me, I use coal-tar soap and a rough brick to get clean, sometimes I just use the brick - Grrrrrr !

Will there be anything left at Meadowhall soon? With Allders gone and now Sainsburys, and the usual collection of "new store opening soon", there'll only be the cookie shops left! I heard a rumour that Primark were turned down for the Allders site because they are too downmarket. Can that be correct, seeing as they have a Poundland?

Originally posted by feargal
Will there be anything left at Meadowhall soon? With Allders gone and now Sainsburys, and the usual collection of "new store opening soon", there'll only be the cookie shops left! I heard a rumour that Primark were turned down for the Allders site because they are too downmarket. Can that be correct, seeing as they have a Poundland?

Possibly? Maybe they have a policy on only renting the flagship stores to the upmarket businesses? That said, New Look's store is big enough! :D

K x

Allders was hardly high-end though, it's not like it was Selfridges.

Hows about a Littlewoods store that would go down well at that end of Meadowhall or even a Dunnes(remember them?!)

Another shop that would do well down that end would be a big Wilkinsons store. either that or a Job centre plus shop!

Originally posted by nick2
Allders was hardly high-end though, it's not like it was Selfridges.

Fair comment, but it wasn't Poundland style either!

K x

Originally posted by nick2
Allders was hardly high-end though, it's not like it was Selfridges.

Yep, granted!

Still a bit naughty to say no to Primark though - there are times in all our lives when we all need an ill-fitting yet cheap fleecy jumper. :D

Meadowhall working mens club anyone!

Perhaps a Jack Fulton foodhall would be appropriate ?

Originally posted by feargal
Yep, granted!

Still a bit naughty to say no to Primark though - there are times in all our lives when we all need an ill-fitting yet cheap fleecy jumper. :D

Go next door and get it from H&M!:hihi:

What about a new B-Wise? :D

K x

Ethel Austin superstore?

Realistically then, it's got to have a supermarket hasn't it? I know it has M&S, but the way they are going, they'll be next to go!

Maybe Netto or Lidl?!

Originally posted by feargal
there are times in all our lives when we all need an ill-fitting yet cheap fleecy jumper. :D

being burried on a cold day for example.

isn't there already a savacentre at crystal peaks?

Originally posted by Fearful
http://www.moltonbrown.co.uk/ - Things that smell

http://www.spacenk.co.uk/ - same

:)

Thanks Fearful:thumbsup: However looking at their prices I doubt you would find me in Space NK and the Molton Brown ones don't look much better - basically they are an overpriced version of bodyshop from what I can see.

Originally posted by nick2
being burried on a cold day for example.

Id rather be cremated then have to suffer a cheap fleecy jumper from Primark for the rest of eternaty

Originally posted by Internetowl
isn't there already a savacentre at crystal peaks?

No its just an out of date Sainsburys,where they pile it high and sell it cheap in rows at the front of the checkouts.

This method goes down well in't Peaks!

Originally posted by unners
Id rather be cremated then have to suffer a cheap fleecy jumper from Primark for the rest of eternaty

Ooh, you lot cut me to the quick. I'm gonna start going to the meets, dressed in a fleecy primark cheapy, B-wise strides and maybe some poundland flip-flops.

Originally posted by feargal
Ooh, you lot cut me to the quick. I'm gonna start going to the meets, dressed in a fleecy primark cheapy, B-wise strides and maybe some poundland flip-flops.

Yes i will bring some naff food from Jack's and some cheap Vodka from Lidl's hidden behind my naff Ethel Austin evening wear and to finish the look off i will be sporting some of Johnathan James's finest footware!

Originally posted by feargal
Ooh, you lot cut me to the quick. I'm gonna start going to the meets, dressed in a fleecy primark cheapy, B-wise strides and maybe some poundland flip-flops.

I'll bring a naked flame.

Sainsbury's is too bloody expensive anyway...I guess that's the reason they're closing down their store at the peasant end of Meadowhall :D

What they should do is move to the posher end of Meadowhall instead ...then they can charge as much as they like!

Originally posted by nick2
I'll bring a naked flame.

My my Nick, you are on form today! :D

K x

Originally posted by nick2
certainly not me, I use coal-tar soap and a rough brick to get clean, sometimes I just use the brick - Grrrrrr !

Your wellard then Nick ;) I just saw this on MB's web site
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skin trial bag - mens £29.00
For that price I would want proper skin, not just stuff that's on trial :confused:

Originally posted by unners
I wonder what will take its place?
I would like to see the world's biggest Molton Brown store created.

Meadowhall say "something exciting that will add to the experience of shoppers and create jobs".

I seem to remember that it was Meadowhall who told Sainsbury's they had to downsize that store; maybe they've been shoved out all together this time?


Meadowhall say no... "It was Sainsbury's decision to leave the centre."

Originally posted by unners
Yes i will bring some naff food from Jack's and some cheap Vodka from Lidl's hidden behind my naff Ethel Austin evening wear and to finish the look off i will be sporting some of Johnathan James's finest footware!

You forgot the Lizzie Duke Jewellery unners :D

Originally posted by tgigreeny
Meadowhall say "something exciting that will add to the experience of shoppers and create jobs".

Alton Towers!!

Originally posted by tgigreeny
Meadowhall say "something exciting that will add to the experience of shoppers and create jobs".

Job Centre plus it is then.

Getting back on topic like someone has already said it needs to be another supermarket not that I ever used Sainsbury's that much - too expensive for average quality stuff. An Asda would be nice but don't suppose we'd get that one since it's not long since they opened the one just off the parkway.

:D Just looked down at the thread and noticed Abdul's reply about them being too expensive.

Originally posted by owdlad
You forgot the Lizzie Duke Jewellery unners :D

You can bring some along for me,and i will bring you the 50p. PS keep the change!!

Originally posted by tgigreeny
Meadowhall say "something exciting that will add to the experience of shoppers and create jobs".

an open cast pit ?

Originally posted by nick2
certainly not me, I use coal-tar soap and a rough brick to get clean, sometimes I just use the brick - Grrrrrr !

I like coal-tar soap, but since I dropped the brick and chipped the bath enamel I'm not allowed to use it anymore :D

Originally posted by unners
Id rather be cremated then have to suffer a cheap fleecy jumper from Primark for the rest of eternaty

Aren't they bio-degradable....one I bought disintegrated in the washing machine :(

Originally posted by nick2
an open cast pit ?

Maybe just more car parkling! Given that's why Sainsbury's left. Though I think they're banned from doing that.

Originally posted by nick2
an open cast pit ?

That would be a waste of time - from what I remember being told it was mined years ago (before the steelworks were there before someone points this out) and then filled in with waste from the steelworks. I could be wrong but I also seem to remember we had to have a mining survey done when we moved to just over 1/2 a mile from Meadowhall 3 years ago for that reason!

Apart from that I don't want to end up sliding down the hill thank you very much!

Originally posted by tgigreeny
Maybe just more car parkling! Given that's why Sainsbury's left. Though I think they're banned from doing that.

I don't see anything in the bbc article that says that - do you know something we don't?

Originally posted by wendy
Originally posted by nick2
an open cast pit ?
That would be a waste of time - from what I remember being told it was mined years ago (before the steelworks were there before someone points this out) and then filled in with waste from the steelworks. I could be wrong but I also seem to remember we had to have a mining survey done when we moved to just over 1/2 a mile from Meadowhall 3 years ago for that reason!

Apart from that I don't want to end up sliding down the hill thank you very much!

I think he was pulling our legs Wendy! :D

K x

Originally posted by scottf
That is suprising actually- it always looks busy!!!!

Im gonna bet that tesco move straight in there!!!!

Yep, and who could blame them? It's a great opportunity to further establish their presense in this city.

I can't help thinking that this is a backward step for Sainsbury's who are already struggling and now they are giving up prime locations.

Originally posted by Kristian
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I think he was pulling our legs Wendy! :D

K x

I did guess that Kristian - thanks just trying to get the topic back and out of the silly answers!:D

My next door neighbour works at Sainsbury's central on the moor, she has told me that it is because they are making twice the amount of money than Sainsbury's meadowhall with 5 times less space.

Dont know about the petrol stations though??

This is a bit of a blow for us that live in the Northern part of Sheffield because that will mean that we'll have to go all the way to Archer Rd when we want anything from Sainsburys. Or that one on the Moor which is impossible to get to in a car.

Poor decision if you ask me but I dare say economics dictates it. As it says in the article, people don't go there to do their weekly shop. It's one less reason to go to Meadowhall though... and God knows there were few enough to start with.

Originally posted by wendy
I don't see anything in the bbc article that says that - do you know something we don't?

Aha! For the full story you need to listen to Radio Sheffield.

Sainsbury's say 'issues' with parking and the distance shoppers have to carry their food to get back to vehicles mean that Meadowhall is neither accessible nor convenient enough for customers wishing to carry out a weekly food shop there.

They say they're investing 20 mil at Crystal Peaks and the new store will open in September (the existing Peaks store will close at the same time). The new store will be around twice as large as the existing one at Peaks.

They can't guarantee that all the 323 people who work at Meadowhall and 200 odd who currently work at Crystal Peaks will be able to be redeployed at the new store, though they'll try their best.

Shopworkers Union USDAW say they'll be talking to Sainsbury's and their members and will be trying to help them get redeployed.

Im originally from that end of town, it is a blow.
Have you thought about ordering online??

I have used them a couple of times and everything was ok with my orders, the only thing is the £5 delivery charge. :(

You would think that they would want to know why people don't go there to do their weekly shopping though wouldn't you? Have they ever bothered asking their customers or the people that do shop in Meadowhall but not the Sainsbury's - well I have never seen anyone asking have you?

As I said before I didn't shop at Sainsbury's because of their prices - despite their adverts. I think if they spent less money advertising and more on research they might work out the economics better. I realise supermarkets only have a low profit margin (the average used to be around 8% but that was a few years ago) but they need to find out what they are doing wrong and they won't find that out by pouring more money into advertising and less into research. Surely they need to start listening to the people to they want to sell to.

I was told a number of staff walked out this morning and sainsburys central had to send staff to meadowhall.

Originally posted by owlsman
My next door neighbour works at Sainsbury's central on the moor, she has told me that it is because they are making twice the amount of money than Sainsbury's meadowhall with 5 times less space.

Dont know about the petrol stations though??

Sainsbury's say they're considering a proposal for a convenience store at each of the two filling station sites.

Originally posted by owlsman
I was told a number of staff walked out this morning and sainsburys central had to send staff to meadowhall.

Interesting. I gather staff were meeting with management today to discuss the announcement.

I was in there at 8.00 am this morning and a clipboard-weilding woman was whispering to the staff, and they were all looking peeved. That'll be why then.

Their Meads store is open from 7.00 am! It's no wonder it's unprofitable - there's only me in buying a paper and a bag of crisps!

Their Meads store is open from 7.00 am! It's no wonder it's unprofitable - there's only me in buying a paper and a bag of crisps! [/B][/QUOTE]

LOL nice one :lol:

Originally posted by wendy
Thanks Fearful:thumbsup: However looking at their prices I doubt you would find me in Space NK and the Molton Brown ones don't look much better - basically they are an overpriced version of bodyshop from what I can see.

Oh no Wendy! Space NK is an adult's playground, a wonderland full of all the cosmetics and skin care products you could possibly imagine. And the assistants leave you alone to play with them all afternoon if you like!

It's a little piece of heaven for girlie girls - it's a 'must-stop-shop' for me in Leeds and Edinburgh. The bank account squeals in horror, but I steadfastly ignore it! :cool:

StarSparkle :)

Originally posted by feargal
I was in there at 8.00 am this morning and a clipboard-weilding woman was whispering to the staff, and they were all looking peeved. That'll be why then.

Their Meads store is open from 7.00 am! It's no wonder it's unprofitable - there's only me in buying a paper and a bag of crisps!

It's all your fault then Feargal! Perhaps if you'd splashed out on a yogurt aswell from time to time, the store could have been saved! :nono:

K x

my friend works there at night she only found out cause one of her friends found out she saw it on local news they were going to talk about it tonight before her shift

Originally posted by tgigreeny
Maybe just more car parkling! Given that's why Sainsbury's left. Though I think they're banned from doing that.
Sainsburys are not leaving, they are going to open a Superstore where the Cinemas are.

Originally posted by tgigreeny
Sainsbury's say they're considering a proposal for a convenience store at each of the two filling station sites.
thats rite i work there and thats what i have been told

Originally posted by owlsman
Im originally from that end of town, it is a blow.
Have you thought about ordering online??

I have used them a couple of times and everything was ok with my orders, the only thing is the £5 delivery charge. :(

From Gleadless it's as quick to go down to the one in Chesterfield, but you would spend a fiver on petrol to get to either of them so maybe delivery isn't such a bad option.

The rumour is that Netto is opening in Meadowhall, it will be their first superstore. :D

Originally posted by tgigreeny
They can't guarantee that all the 323 people who work at Meadowhall and 200 odd who currently work at Crystal Peaks will be able to be redeployed at the new store, though they'll try their best.


I worked at Sainsburys at Meadowhall for five years, and still have friends there. This is sad news indeed for them.

Their Meads store is open from 7.00 am! It's no wonder it's unprofitable - there's only me in buying a paper and a bag of crisps!

This is a recent change - when I worked there, we opened at 9am. I guess they extended the hours to try and increase trade.

I'm not sure why this decission has been made - I know that when the store was down-sized a few years ago, that was partly because Meadowhall's high rents made the store unprofitable.

I hope that things work out OK for those people working at Sainsburys now.

Originally posted by owdlad
The rumour is that Netto is opening in Meadowhall, it will be their first superstore. :D

I've heard that too Owdie!

K x

Originally posted by owdlad
From Gleadless it's as quick to go down to the one in Chesterfield,

Bit behind the times. :rolleyes:

There's one in Dronfield now with no queues either!!!

Originally posted by mr.fogg
Sainsburys are not leaving, they are going to open a Superstore where the Cinemas are.

Are the cinemas closing then? There is even worse parking for shoppers round the back of the existing cinemas. Surely this can't be correct?

Quote:
Originally posted by mr.fogg
Sainsburys are not leaving, they are going to open a Superstore where the Cinemas are.

Quote:
Originally posted by redrobbo
Are the cinemas closing then? There is even worse parking for shoppers round the back of the existing cinemas. Surely this can't be correct?


I think the poster has confused two stories. The Sainsbury's in Meadowhell is closing. The Sainsbury's in Crystal Peaks is moving to where the old UCI cinema was.

it doesnt suprise me that they are closing the meadowhell store, they have been going steadily downhill since they downsized from savacentere when they dropped the non food sections, then they decided to bring nonfood back in and dropped their basics lines all of which resulted in a signifianct reduction in choices particularly at the cheaper end

as for replacements there is really only one choice and thats tesco, after all they dont have a presence in that area, morrisons are at ecclesfield and asda are at handsworth both of which are too close to warrent another store, i cant see a netto succeeding that well, possibly waitrose might consider it

will meadowhall take the opportunity to increase floor space in that zone by adding an extra floor?

dave

Originally posted by evildrneil
My guess is that Crystal peaks floorspace is somewhat cheaper than Meadowhall floorspace?

The big stores like Sainsbury's and M&S hardley pay anything for floor space in meadowhall as they attract so much trade.

Originally posted by StarSparkle
Oh no Wendy! Space NK is an adult's playground, a wonderland full of all the cosmetics and skin care products you could possibly imagine. And the assistants leave you alone to play with them all afternoon if you like!

It's a little piece of heaven for girlie girls - it's a 'must-stop-shop' for me in Leeds and Edinburgh. The bank account squeals in horror, but I steadfastly ignore it! :cool:

StarSparkle :)

Space NK is not just for girls!! I like their range of Anthony Logistics products. The Algae face wash is fantastic! True it is expensive but you get what you pay for. You ever been to the original Covent Garden store?

When Sainsbury's opened at Meadowhall the Savacentre concept was a joint ventre between BHS and Sainsbury's when Phillip Green purchased BHS he sold his share back to Sainsbury's. So as Sainsbury's didnot want all that location Meadowhall Ltd then remodelled that area to the current layout. It is possible that Meadowhall Ltd may just divide the space up vacated by Sainsbury's into smaller units as I understand the rental space maybe worth more. However it is a key corner site and I would guess Meadowhall Ltd would like a large retailer as its first option.

Originally posted by silverknight
It is possible that Meadowhall Ltd may just divide the space up vacated by Sainsbury's into smaller units as I understand the rental space maybe worth more. However it is a key corner site and I would guess Meadowhall Ltd would like a large retailer as its first option.

They've just done the opposite at the Trafford Centre. One end of it was full of little shops like "The Lanes" at meadowhall. They've relocated most of these into the wide main aisles of the centre and John Lewis are having their flagship store in the space instead.

Sheffield Star article

Surprise in store as Sainsbury's checks out (http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=985901)

"Mary Horner uses the food store every time she visits Meadowhall. Mary, 54, of Elm Lane, Sheffield Lane Top, said: "I use it a lot - it's the only supermarket in Meadowhall. I can't understand why they are going to shut it down because a lot of people come here just to shop there. If people cannot food shop, they might not come to the mall at all."

If she lives at Elm Lane, she can always shop at Netto.

I won't laugh at her :hihi:

Originally posted by xafier
you've gotta be kidding? you can barely park at crystal peaks on a good day at the moment!



Plus CP is an absolute s**t hole - I hate the place !!

Originally posted by JonJParr
Space NK is not just for girls!! I like their range of Anthony Logistics products. The Algae face wash is fantastic! True it is expensive but you get what you pay for. You ever been to the original Covent Garden store?

You're quite right of course, JonJParr! Sorry :)

SpaceNK must be my favourite shop - unfortunately, I haven't yet made it to the Covent Garden store but I plan to when I've saved up enough pennies! In a way I'd be scared to go in there though - I'm sure I wouldn't ever want to leave! :D

Stila, Laura Mercier, Nars, Chantecaille, Eve Lom, Darphin, Caudalie ..... yes, that's my bank account screaming again! You're absolutely right - with skin care in particular, you get what you pay for.

Bring on SpaceNK for Sheffield!

StarSparkle :thumbsup:

Originally posted by StarSparkle
You're quite right of course, JonJParr! Sorry :)

SpaceNK must be my favourite shop - unfortunately, I haven't yet made it to the Covent Garden store but I plan to when I've saved up enough pennies! In a way I'd be scared to go in there though - I'm sure I wouldn't ever want to leave! :D

Stila, Laura Mercier, Nars, Chantecaille, Eve Lom, Darphin, Caudalie ..... yes, that's my bank account screaming again! You're absolutely right - with skin care in particular, you get what you pay for.

Bring on SpaceNK for Sheffield!

StarSparkle :thumbsup:

You ever tried the Anthony Logistics range StarSparkle? My girlfriend steals mine all the time! What is most annoying is when she takes the shave gel to do her legs!!! Arrhhh!!! Doesn't she know it costs £15 a bottle!!!

SpaceNK in Sheffield would be sooooo cool.

I work at sainsburys (not meadowhall), and one of the main reasons they told me was because most people associate meadowhall with clothes shopping and they didn’t want to be linked with that. That could be just what they are telling staff though.

I know someone who was manager at meadowhall sainsburys when it was savercenter, he said one year the store lost over a grand because the rent was so high.

Originally posted by Lindseyw
Plus Crystal Peaks is an absolute s**t hole - I hate the place !!

As my mate Sarah calls it, 'Scrubbers Meadowhall' :D

K x

Originally posted by A_Partridge
I know someone who was manager at meadowhall sainsburys when it was savercenter, he said one year the store lost over a grand because the rent was so high.

They were loosing a lot more than a grand a year! The rent at Meadowhall was very high, and the Savacentre was huge. Despite being very busy, it didn't make enough money to cover its costs.

The person earlier who said rents are low is incorrect in this case - although I heard on the jungle drums that M&S pay next to nothing for their store at Meadowhall.

Originally posted by alchresearch
They've just done the opposite at the Trafford Centre. One end of it was full of little shops like "The Lanes" at meadowhall. They've relocated most of these into the wide main aisles of the centre and John Lewis are having their flagship store in the space instead.

I heard that the lanes are going as well so it looks like lots of change coming up at Meadowhall.

Well its been about 6 months since Argos last expanded, maybe theyll take up the reins at the Sainsbury site :hihi:

Seriously though, I hope another food retailer goes there, otherwise where else am I going to get lunch for 38p!?!!

(19p Bread
19p soup)

:D

Originally posted by Andy
T I heard on the jungle drums that M&S pay next to nothing for their store at Meadowhall.

You Did? Tell us more! (I'm not the Forum Gossip for nothing you know!)

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
You Did? Tell us more! (I'm not the Forum Gossip for nothing you know!)


The impression I got, when I worked at Savacentre, was that M&S paid next to no rent and Meadowhall would bend over backwards to accomodate them, because having an M&S (was it the largest in the country when it opened?) was such a benefit to Meadowhall.

I always thought the Savacentre would have been better where M&S was - closer to the bus station.

Originally posted by JonJParr
You ever tried the Anthony Logistics range StarSparkle? My girlfriend steals mine all the time! What is most annoying is when she takes the shave gel to do her legs!!! Arrhhh!!! Doesn't she know it costs £15 a bottle!!!

SpaceNK in Sheffield would be sooooo cool.

No, I've not come across the Anthony Logistics range as yet, but then I've not been to a SpaceNK for months. :(

Perhaps it's time to visit again..... :suspect: Yes, I think so! :D

StarSparkle - if SpaceNK won't come to me .....

Originally posted by Andy
The impression I got, when I worked at Savacentre, was that M&S paid next to no rent and Meadowhall would bend over backwards to accomodate them, because having an M&S (was it the largest in the country when it opened?) was such a benefit to Meadowhall.

I always thought the Savacentre would have been better where M&S was - closer to the bus station.

M&S Liverpool was the largest outside London, sprawling over five floors.

Hmm. Nearer the bus station? Sounds like this would suit their target market.

Meadowhall is suffering from an identity crisis. When it was built the trafford centre didn't exist. People travelled hundreds of miles to do their christmas shopping indoors - people with money.

Now the market is changing. The higher percentage of customers now are from Sheffield, where bargain/tat hunting is an obsession.

I read with interest the comments about the pricing at sainsbuy's. When I visit M'hell, I shop for something nice for tea in M&S and enjoy spending more money on the luxury. It rounds off the day's shopping.

I wouldn't dream of trying to get parked and then trying to tackle a weekly shop in a place like meadowhall. I would contemplate it if it was of the same format as the tesco extra stores, but mundane dross isn't worth going to the hassle over.

Crystal Peaks fills a hole. It's handy for grabbing a few bits without turning shopping into an expedition. I'm looking forward to seeing the new market when it opens, and seeing if sainsbury's can pull their socks up.

Originally posted by Andy
The impression I got, when I worked at Savacentre, was that M&S paid next to no rent and Meadowhall would bend over backwards to accomodate them, because having an M&S (was it the largest in the country when it opened?) was such a benefit to Meadowhall.

I always thought the Savacentre would have been better where M&S was - closer to the bus station.

You're absolutely right. I'm not sure of the current rent situation but I was told by officials of M'Hall years ago that M and S were offered 'penny rent' (don't know how literal that is!) to move in. The feeling was that a meadowhall without Marks and Sparks would fail dismally.

Sainbury's stroes everywhere have huge supply problems, in my experience.

They can have things for weeks in a row, and then suddenly they don't have them. It can be very frustrating.


And when you ask Customer Services what is going on, they shrug their shoulders and say: ''We can only sell what we are sent.''

It appears they have some central supply centre which sends stuff out, individual stores aren't able to order what they need to please local customers.

As a result, you get empty shelves and upset shoppers.

It's not difficult to see why Sainsbury's have slipped down the supermarket hit parade, is it?

Surely one of the basics of retailing is to provide what the customer wants, not to give the customer what you think he wants.

On the Meadowhall front, I don't really think it's the sort of place many people would do their weekly shop.

Originally posted by Strix
Meadowhall is suffering from an identity crisis. When it was built the trafford centre didn't exist. People travelled hundreds of miles to do their christmas shopping indoors - people with money.

Now the market is changing. The higher percentage of customers now are from Sheffield, where bargain/tat hunting is an obsession.


Very true - I think when Meadowhall opened, the only similar place in England was the Metrocentre at Gateshead. Going to Meadowhall was somthing special - a day out - and people would travel for miles to visit. We used to get coaches from north, south, east and west visiting. Meadowhall always used to be packed too. I went the other evening and the place was not busy at all.

I wonder, though, if there's a market for a Sainsburys Local store in Meadowhall (similar range to Tesco Express)? That would mean the people who work/visit Meadowhall still have somewhere to buy their lunch/tea, but could operate at a much lower cost.

Originally posted by Andy
I wonder, though, if there's a market for a Sainsburys Local store in Meadowhall (similar range to Tesco Express)? That would mean the people who work/visit Meadowhall still have somewhere to buy their lunch/tea, but could operate at a much lower cost.
I didn't know they had those - that would be perfect

I think there's definetly a market for a big supermarket near to a shopping complex. Asda and Tesco have big stores at the side of the Trafford Centre and the Reebok Stadium near Bolton.

Sainsbury's in unique as it's a part of Meadowhall.

Originally posted by alchresearch
I think there's definetly a market for a big supermarket near to a shopping complex. Asda and Tesco have big stores at the side of the Trafford Centre and the Reebok Stadium near Bolton.

Sainsbury's in unique as it's a part of Meadowhall.

I do believe there were discussions held regarding building a supermarket on the overflow car park on Weedon Street (at the Sainsburys end of Meadowhall). I recall ASDA were interested in doing this. Obviously Sainsburys were not keen!

I can't remember the exact details though.

Originally posted by alchresearch
I think there's definetly a market for a big supermarket near to a shopping complex. Asda and Tesco have big stores at the side of the Trafford Centre and the Reebok Stadium near Bolton.

Sainsbury's in unique as it's a part of Meadowhall.

Isn't the White Rose centre the same, they have a Sainsbury's also don't they?

Originally posted by Andy

I wonder, though, if there's a market for a Sainsburys Local store in Meadowhall (similar range to Tesco Express)? That would mean the people who work/visit Meadowhall still have somewhere to buy their lunch/tea, but could operate at a much lower cost.

Are you talking about the same location where Sainsbury's is? Would anywhere else be suitable as they would ideally need to have easy wagon access.

What is going to be happening with both fuel sites? Are they going to be closing as well then?

Some of us get told off for multiple individual posts when 'edit' could be used :rolleyes:

I didn't think meadowhall was in a residential enough area to justify a 'normal' supermarket. The most I've ever done is a few bits to keep us going whilst out clothes shopping :confused:

It sounds like the petrol stations may be useful, but again, they're not 'on the way home' for the usual petrol station market :(

Supermarkets don't have to be in the middle of residential areas. Take alook at Barnsley Tesco. The fact is that it's near an abundance of other shops.

Sainsbury's at Meadowhall always seemed fairly busy to me and if I had to estimate I would say it took around 1-1.5 million pounds a week.

The fuel sites would be the best option if someone like Tesco wanted a site there but not a superstore. They would have to either have a metro within the centre or an express on the fuels sites.

Sainsbury's are keeping both petrol sites.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4394041.stm

Figures, they are both good sites, quite close to the motorway.

Originally posted by Lickszz
Sainsbury's at Meadowhall always seemed fairly busy to me and if I had to estimate I would say it took around 1-1.5 million pounds a week.


When I left (3 years ago ish), it wasn't taking anywhere near that amount of money.

On the other hand, the petrol stations there are very profitable.

Originally posted by dishwasher
Sainbury's stroes everywhere have huge supply problems, in my experience.

They can have things for weeks in a row, and then suddenly they don't have them. It can be very frustrating.


And when you ask Customer Services what is going on, they shrug their shoulders and say: ''We can only sell what we are sent.''

It appears they have some central supply centre which sends stuff out, individual stores aren't able to order what they need to please local customers.

As a result, you get empty shelves and upset shoppers.

It's not difficult to see why Sainsbury's have slipped down the supermarket hit parade, is it?

Surely one of the basics of retailing is to provide what the customer wants, not to give the customer what you think he wants.

On the Meadowhall front, I don't really think it's the sort of place many people would do their weekly shop.

I agree with the above statements, and they have been confirmed by various retail analysts; Check this article dated October 2004 for an example:

Sainsbury's issues profit warning (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3732370.stm)

Originally posted by Andy
When I left (3 years ago ish), it wasn't taking anywhere near that amount of money.

On the other hand, the petrol stations there are very profitable.

Like I said, there is plenty of customers in there but perhaps their average basket size (spend) must not be much.

Originally posted by Strix
I didn't think meadowhall was in a residential enough area to justify a 'normal' supermarket. The most I've ever done is a few bits to keep us going whilst out clothes shopping :confused:


Strix I live just over half a mile away from Meadowhall and can assume that there are lots of houses with walking distance of Sainsbury's side. You must have always entered the area from the otherside of the building where you wouldn't see the houses. But believe me there is a need for another supermarket. Personally I always thought they put the store on the wrong side of Sheffield as many of the local people won;t shop at Sainsbury's because of their prices.

Originally posted by wendy
Personally I always thought they put the store on the wrong side of Sheffield as many of the local people won;t shop at Sainsbury's because of their prices.

See my previous post. I think they put Sainsbury's on the wrong side of Meadowhall :D

Originally posted by Abdul
See my previous post. I think they put Sainsbury's on the wrong side of Meadowhall :D

I agree Abdul, it would have been much better in the sewerage on the other side of the M1:D

Originally posted by owdlad
I agree Abdul, it would have been much better in the sewerage on the other side of the M1:D

Ya cheeky bugger!

Trolling again?

I think I'll leave this thread to the experts :heyhey:

over the w/e i had chance to chat with a couple of ex-collegues from sainsburies and the implication is that meadowhell is gonna put in another floor and put it over to smaller units, makes sense i suppose, what is going to be built on the weedon stret side tho, in the overflow carpark (which ive never seen used) or the site where the factory is being demolished? now THERE would be an ideal supermarket site

dave

Originally posted by wendy
Strix I live just over half a mile away from Meadowhall.... You must have always entered the area from the otherside of the building where you wouldn't see the houses.
Past centertainment or through attercliffe, so yes, I'm probably missing the residential area you mention, Wendy

Ive been working in Sainsbury's meadowhall for a little over 2 years now and Ive been told many times whilst working there that although it is always busy, compared to the other sainsburys stores the amount of people who actually do a full shop there regularly is very low. most people.. as many of you have said just go in there to buy a couple of things. makes sense to move somewhere that would be more profitable i guess.

Any 1 got any ideas whats gonna go in it`s place
??

A Tesco's would be great in place of sainsbury's, i can never be bothered to drive all the way over sheffield to go the one we do have.

if the Lanes are going, that'll suck.

there does seem to be a bit of an issue at hell at the moment, that "I've gotta have it" closed the other week after being open a matter of a few months, so something must be wrong somewhere...

the mention from someone else about putting in another floor would make sense, there is the space, and like the handsworth asda it would make so much difference.

The thing that I would put in there if I was the owner at Meadowhall, is a massive paintball arena! Imagine all the people that would go! We don't have any decent ones in Sheffield, so this would probably get a LOT of business.

If you're reading this, Mr.Meadowhall, and you decide to use my idea, I want 30% :D

GazB

Ann summers has gotta go in there, have the people in sheffield never heard of this shop...? Why are you the only city I can think of that doesn't have 1...???

Originally posted by BobDaBuilder
Ann summers has gotta go in there, have the people in sheffield never heard of this shop...? Why are you the only city I can think of that doesn't have 1...???

We have a Pulse & Cocktails.

Apparently :hihi:

Would be a good idea to move the lanes in there but build more of them, and give it a kind of "Market" theme.

Originally posted by GazB
We have a Pulse & Cocktails.

Apparently :hihi:

Would be a good idea to move the lanes in there but build more of them, and give it a kind of "Market" theme.

On London Rd at the corner opposite Waitrose. It always makes me laugh when I go past as it says on the front 'entrance at rear'
get it? entrance at rear...

There used to be an Ann Summers in Sheffield - on Fargate. Closed a few years ago - presumeably not making enough money

Ann Summers tried to get a shop there, they were going to redesignate one of the current shops, cant recall which, but meadowhall refused permission as it would not be the right type of shop in a family based shopping mall, scus me but have they actually SEEN what some of the shops down there sell??

dave

found this from sunday times back in feb

"High street stores Laura Ashley and Ann Summers have formed an unlikely partnership in a row over an Ann Summers outlet. Laura Ashley wants to transfer the lease of its shop in Sheffield's Meadowhall shopping centre to Ann Summers, but the landlord, British Land Corporation, has refused consent."

dave

there is a Pulse & Cocktails shop at hillsborough too... i am told it is much bigger than the other one...

i am sorry if this has been posted before but i have done a search and found nothing..

sainsburys is to close in meadowhell, does anyone know the reason why its closing and the date?

i have been told 3 different dates

[MOD NOTE] Threads merged...

i heard that it was the Meadowhall Centre that wanted sainsbury's out in order to create both a second level and lots of space for smaller shops (as one post has suggested). Seems to be a reliable source where I got this from ..

If it's the case that it is to be replaced by smalled shops, that's a nice reversal of fortunes. When supermarkets open, it's usually the small shops that disappear.

i know someone who works in one of the shops and this shop was meant to be opening another one in meadowhall at other end and the moving to a new unit from the one it is in now.. but due to sainsburys closing meadowhalls plans have changed and they are not allowed a 2nd shop now making all those people who had interviews for the new jobs now left without.
i have been told its nothing to do with meadowhall why sainsburys is to close but that meadowhall do not want another supermarket to take its place.
there was also meant to be a primark opening where alders used to be but apparently there have been objections to this.

Originally posted by savbaby
[ i have been told its nothing to do with meadowhall why sainsburys is to close but that meadowhall do not want another supermarket to take its place.
there was also meant to be a primark opening where alders used to be but apparently there have been objections to this. [/B]


Why are they objecting to Primark? Is it because it's a crap shop?

Originally posted by samc
Why are they objecting to Primark? Is it because it's a crap shop?

they dont want a cheap shop in meadowhall, apparently they are wanting rid of pound land too!

Originally posted by savbaby
they dont want a cheap shop in meadowhall, apparently they are wanting rid of pound land too!

I can well believe that savbaby.
So those on low incomes are not attractive as clientel at the glamourous shopping experience of Meadowhall.

Originally posted by savbaby
they dont want a cheap shop in meadowhall, apparently they are wanting rid of pound land too!

Yay!

There are plents of cheapo-crap shops in town, Meadowhall has an image to maintain, and it's not an image of "The Moor with a roof".

Originally posted by samc
I can well believe that savbaby.
So those on low incomes are not attractive as clientel at the glamourous shopping experience of Meadowhall.

I don't believe that at all.

Meadowhall is divided into two sections, with the posh shops at one end and Argos / Poundland at the other.

I think I Primark would fit in very well at Sainsburys' location.

Regarding the Allders shop, i've heard Boots are expanding into it (and getting rid of their ground floor) and another smaller unit will separate it from WHSmith.

Rumours also circulating that the mall by sainsbury's is to made 2 levels...

My Parents know the staff quite well at Sainsburys and they've been told Meadowhall is hoping or keen to make the Sainsburys area a two floor so god knows what it will be!

my housemate has been told that its going to be made like the lanes but in 2 levels. the thing is the lanes are one of the highest rents in meadowhall.. i mean for the size of them in proprtion to the bigger shops where thier rent % is lower

Originally posted by unners
I wonder what will take its place?
I would like to see the world's biggest Molton Brown store created.


I'll second that - the stuff smells so nice I could eat it! Shame about the price though, at least the chav's won't be buying into it anytime soon

as title

anyone know yet

Just a random guess but isn't Sainsburys a supermarket.can it be anything else????:loopy:

ive heard its going to be a waitrose

Originally posted by RazorSHarp
Just a random guess but isn't Sainsburys a supermarket.can it be anything else????:loopy:

lmao.... be sarcastic isn't always good :hihi:
it's closing down and moving on

It's being forced out! The Meadowhell management get annoyed that people go to Meadowhell just to shop at Sainsbury’s so they are chucking them out. I would imagine it will be converted into 30 more bland shops selling the same crud that the other 300 sell. Oh, and at least 4 Subways. :D

How about another pound shop? Or a Starbucks?

I'll get my coat....

No, no - what we really need are a few more shoe shops and some more mobile phone outlets. :rolleyes: :D

StarSparkle

Maybe they could even squeeze in some City Living cubicles or student flats? :hihi:

Mod: Similar threads merged.

Originally posted by neeeeeeeeeek
It's being forced out! The Meadowhell management get annoyed that people go to Meadowhell just to shop at Sainsbury’s so they are chucking them out.

Sorry if it's already been said, I'm new, but I heard from someone who works there that the rent was costing them £5million a year!

Hi it closes tomorrow, I have just heard most stuff is 1/2 price or less from my uncle gary who works there!!!!

Qs already building and people buying owt

I know exactly why meadowhall is closing but it is confidential information which i am not allowed to expose, Meadowhall did not tell sainsburys to downsize. Well it closes next friday so if you really want to know why it closed I can tell you after its gone. I only partly know who's moving into the space and i also can not which retailer it is. The problem with supermarket chains is that they do not get enough custom but marks and spencers will see a profit due to the closing of sainsbury's

Plus M&S is the first shop that you have to go through when you enter Meadowhall from the tram/bus station.

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
I know exactly why meadowhall is closing but it is confidential information which i am not allowed to expose, Meadowhall did not tell sainsburys to downsize. Well it closes next friday so if you really want to know why it closed I can tell you after its gone. I only partly know who's moving into the space and i also can not which retailer it is. The problem with supermarket chains is that they do not get enough custom but marks and spencers will see a profit due to the closing of sainsbury's

I think you ought to tell us now that you've led us up the garden path, the least you could do is put the kettle on......so to speak

Sorry honey pm and mayb i will

About two years ago I found a website which listed properties to rent at M'Hall and saw that the empty unit near the statues ( now 02? next to Lunn Poly) was on the market for £155,000 p.a. rent plus a portion of turnover.

Faced with rents in that price range, together with the long hours that places are open, it's easy why only the big firms can move in.

Yeah it is but it does mean those smaller chains would never really make it in there. But how certain can you be that the price is stil right alot could have changed since then, it might be higher or lower.

I popped into Sainsbury's just now to look for all these half price offers. Zilch. Just the usual BOGOF deals. No queues, no nothing.

Called for diesel on the way home to discover that the petrol station is also closing.

Originally posted by Classic Rock
I popped into Sainsbury's just now to look for all these half price offers. Zilch. Just the usual BOGOF deals. No queues, no nothing.

I guess some people find the weirdest wind ups amusing :|

Originally posted by Classic Rock
I popped into Sainsbury's just now to look for all these half price offers. Zilch. Just the usual BOGOF deals. No queues, no nothing.

Called for diesel on the way home to discover that the petrol station is also closing.

Yeh my parents were in there yesterday, and said there were no special offers or anything of the sort...

the sainsbury's plot in meadowhall is to be split up into 5 new retail units and when poundland's lease runs out it is not being renewed they are wanting to get away from the down market shops. so an employee told me.

Lose a Poundland, gain another mobile phone shop, a computer game shop or a tatty clothes shop instead....:rolleyes: They're most common in Meadowhall. Have I missed any?

Originally posted by Classic Rock
Called for diesel on the way home to discover that the petrol station is also closing. Thats dissapointing. I hope whoever takes over has some super unleaded pumps. The supermarket 97ron stuff is poor, but it was convenient being next to the M1. And cheap.

Originally posted by Trickle
...... The supermarket 97ron stuff is poor..

What makes you say this? I use different petrol stations all the time and have found no difference between Esso/Shell/BP unleaded and supermarket unleaded :confused:

Sorry, I only ment in relation to optimax.

Originally posted by loulou3
Hi it closes tomorrow, I have just heard most stuff is 1/2 price or less from my uncle gary who works there!!!!

Qs already building and people buying owt

I popped in on Friday, only fresh fruit and veg was at half price, virtually nothing else was even reduced.

And it reminded me why I don't shop there.

Bought 2 melons on a bogof offer, got home, checked receipt, found that the till muppet had charged me for 3 melons.

Originally posted by Classic Rock

Called for diesel on the way home to discover that the petrol station is also closing. [/B]

Trickle you'll be pleased to know................

I have been in the petrol station today and have been told the petrol station is NOT closing.

deecee
:clap: :clap:

the actual store is now closed, they were removing the last few letters of the signage on sunday :(

I have been in the petrol station today and have been told the petrol station is NOT closing.
deecee
:clap: :clap: Too good a spot to close forever :clap:

Originally posted by musically
the sainsbury's plot in meadowhall is to be split up into 5 new retail units and when poundland's lease runs out it is not being renewed they are wanting to get away from the down market shops. so an employee told me.

Is at that Poundland want to get away from the down market shops they share the mall with or Meadowhall don't want the likes of poundland? :help:

I always think Meadowhall needs a few shops like this to keep it's feet on the ground. Meadowhall has Park Lane for it's higher price shops and should leave it at that.

If they start with Poundland (which i dont use anyway) what is next?? When do they stop?

I beg to differ about boots extending into the old allders unit as according to the bbc the unit is now owned by primark

I thought it had been mentioned (earlier in this thread?) that Primark had been refused a unit at Meadowhall?

Edit: found it! (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&postid=393068&highlight=primark#post393068)

Originally posted by damo
I beg to differ about boots extending into the old allders unit as according to the bbc the unit is now owned by primark
boots are DEFINITELY extending into the old allders unit, but wont be taking up the whole thing.

How can any of you be sure? tell me facts not rumours, an employee might have told you but things change so bear that in mind. Not trying to get at anyone but if anyones going to say anything you need to prove that that wil happen. As far as I know things are still unsure and I don't think that space is being split into five parts neither as I know differently but can not evident it

I heard it was going to be Harvey Nicks!! Just a rumour mind!!

Originally posted by Chalky
I heard it was going to be Harvey Nicks!! Just a rumour mind!!

Don't toy with me like that.

Originally posted by Chalky
I heard it was going to be Harvey Nicks!! Just a rumour mind!!

You're having a laugh! A Harvey Nich's in Meadowhall? Such things are not matters to joke about..... ;)

Ok, well I don't think Harvey Nicks is a possibility because they wouldn't put one in meadowhall unless it was on park lane. Half of Sainsbury's is spoken for but i cant say who

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
Ok, well I don't think Harvey Nicks is a possibility because they wouldn't put one in meadowhall unless it was on park lane. Half of Sainsbury's is spoken for but i cant say who

Why not? Tell me by PM....

Originally posted by JonJParr
You're having a laugh! A Harvey Nich's in Meadowhall? Such things are not matters to joke about..... ;)

It is very unlikely, though the one in Birmingham is much smaller then the available space in Meadowhall, but it is in a stylish building, which Meadowhall is not. The Dixons shop on Fargate is more their style, an older building, but that has probably already been earmarked to become Vodefone World.

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
Half of Sainsbury's is spoken for but i cant say who

LOL !!

Originally posted by nick2
It is very unlikely, though the one in Birmingham is much smaller then the available space in Meadowhall, but it is in a stylish building, which Meadowhall is not. The Dixons shop on Fargate is more their style, an older building, but that has probably already been earmarked to become Vodefone World.

The Harvey Nichs in Brum is the worst but it's in a very nice building (the Mailbox). I always find that walkway where they have the sunglasses a rather strange design for a store. On a different note the lease for the Sainsburys store at Meadowhall was purchased by British Land PLC (which effectively means they were pushed out).

They own Meadowhall - they've just taken Sainsburys site back & they are being VERY hush hush about who is taking the space too.

What I dont understand is why are Sports Soccer closing when the signed a 10 year Lease with BL ?

Originally posted by Lindseyw
They own Meadowhall - they've just taken Sainsburys site back & they are being VERY hush hush about who is taking the space too.

Do you know what it's going to be?

Originally posted by JonJParr
Do you know what it's going to be?

I wish I did, but no, I havent a clue.
No vested interest - just curious.

Can I just ask how do everyone know about BL leases and things like that?? BL own all of the meadowhall shops and it was sainsburys decision to leave, they were not pushed out!

All those things are really confidential and unless your on the inside of meadowhall you wouldn't really know

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
Can I just ask how do everyone know about BL leases and things like that?? BL own all of the meadowhall shops and it was sainsburys decision to leave, they were not pushed out!

They're a publicly traded company so they have a large corporate website which displays Press Releases. Lease transfers and large transactions have to be made public.

I never said they were pushed out hun.
None of that is confidential - it is freely available in their Financial Reports - if you know where to look ;)
& For the record, I don't work for M/H. BL or any of it's associates. Nor do I know anyone who does

Originally posted by JonJParr
The Harvey Nichs in Brum is the worst but it's in a very nice building (the Mailbox). I always find that walkway where they have the sunglasses a rather strange design for a store. On a different note the lease for the Sainsburys store at Meadowhall was purchased by British Land PLC (which effectively means they were pushed out).

Of course it's nothing compared to the Selfridges "Space mushroom" store, the organic shapes in there and the shopping centre attached to it are fantastic, like something out of a Sci-fi film, a cross between 2001 and Alien perhaps.

I'd like to second that; I don't work for Meadowhall, I'm not a BL shareholder but I do like to keep myself informed of such developments.

JonJParr said they were pushed out, i wasnt saying you said that Lindsey. Those documents wouldn't be accessible until all moves had been done. The only people who know exactly about the shops moving are the shops themselves or the people that deal with them. Other than those people no one else should know any details as employees of both Meadowhall and BL told anyone else they would be breaking the data protection act

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
Other than those people no one else should know any details as employees of both Meadowhall and BL told anyone else they would be breaking the data protection act

They are a PLC it has to be public. We ae not tlaking about anything tht WILL happen - just what HAS.

Also it's nothing to do with Data Potection.

Lindsey is correct; it has nothing to do with Data Protection at all. Data Protection applies only to data specific to a person and is designed to protect the individual not commercial secrecy. But don't worry - people always get confused about what Data Protection actually is.

can we get back to the original thread - does anyone know what's taking its place - this is one of the very few subjects which seems forumers do not have an answer to - i'm just curious

Okies well I admit I don't know everything but I seem to know more about the whole shops in meadowhall thing

Why do people like to "keep informed" of what meadowhall does? Generally any plans for meadowhall are still un decided

yep heard harvey nicks will take coming to meadowhall to do with meadowhall wanting to be more classier my mother in laws friend has got a postion as a recruiter for jobs

if thats the case about meadowhall not allowing primark in why did primark buy the unit from allders at the time of them closing? which was covered on BBCs business news as well as the liquidators website?

and sports soccer may be closing but i believe it to only be temp ad their actuall name is sports world international and i think they will just be doing a quick rebrand like they have done before

just to chuck my twopenneth in, i heard from one of the sainsbury employees that next were moving in so who knows?

there is also still that rumour floating around that morrisons are gonna build a store on either the spare bit of the meadowhall site where that horse circus was or in the weeon street redevelopment

dave

I heard from an ex-Sainsbury's employee (talking very loudly on bus) that Boots were moving in as they want their shop on one floor.

Would be good if another supermarket did open at Meadowhall (I miss being able to pop in on my way home from work), but I don't think we need another Morrisons in the area, there's one only a couple of miles away at Ecclesfield!

Boots is taking half of the Sainsbury's unit and th Allder's unit, the rest of sainsbury's is being split but that part is uncertain. As far as I know Morrisons won't be getting into meadowhall as supermarkets find it very hard to make their money and the costs differ. Keep this all hush hush!

Boots is taking half of the Sainsbury's unit and th Allder's unit, the rest of sainsbury's is being split but that part is uncertain. As far as I know Morrisons won't be getting into meadowhall as supermarkets find it very hard to make their money and the costs differ.


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Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
As far as I know Morrisons won't be getting into meadowhall

Thank god.

Originally posted by Abdul
Sainsbury's is too bloody expensive anyway...I guess that's the reason they're closing down their store at the peasant end of Meadowhall :D

What they should do is move to the posher end of Meadowhall instead ...then they can charge as much as they like!

As someone else mentioned earlier, Sainsbury's are moving because Meadowhall have worked out that they can get more rent by splitting up the floorspace into smaller shops.

Personally, I'm a bit miffed. Meadowhall management seem to have overlooked their customers' needs. How many times have you picked up a few things for dinner in Sainsburys after doing your other shopping at meadowhall? Chucking Sainsburys out is turning a one-stop shopping centre into something much less useful.

the same employee i was talking to said there was a contractual agreement on meadowhall that they cant have another supermarket in for three months tho that would not affect a new build nearby

seems strange that boots would want to expand into allders AND into sainsburies at the same time, is there a call for 2 boots?

mind the same could be said about next so who knows?

i see that they have taken out the brickwork and exposed the breezeblocks at the side trollybay near the delivery area which i assume must be for some type of large scale access

dave

Originally posted by ptigga
How many times have you picked up a few things for dinner in Sainsburys after doing your other shopping at meadowhall? Chucking Sainsburys out is turning a one-stop shopping centre into something much less useful.

or the other way round, popped into meadowhall because you are going there to get shopping from sainsburys anyway, we are now faced with finding another supermarket for weekly shop and will probably go round town for general shopping as there are cheaper shops there

any suggestions for a good supermarket to go to near meadowhall?

dave

Originally posted by alchemist
seems strange that boots would want to expand into allders AND into sainsburies at the same time, is there a call for 2 boots?


A pair of boots ?

Morrisons. You cannot beat Morrisons on price for a big weekly shop.

Other super market chains aren't interested in opening a store at Meadowhall so I would not bank on that happening. DON'T critise Meadowhall Management as it was Sainsbury's choice to move as costs were high.

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
DON'T critise Meadowhall Management as it was Sainsbury's choice to move as costs were high.

...er so who made the rent/lease costs high then?

Originally posted by amber181
Morrisons. You cannot beat Morrisons on price for a big weekly shop.

ASDA can, so can Tesco and Sainsburys by the looks of it.

http://www.tesco.com/price_check_search/

On this mornings news on BBC there was a call for people to be careful about how much travelling they do to get their shopping.

The point they were trying to make is that a trip to a supermarket is inefficient when it comes travelling to large supermarkets. It would be best for local people to shop locally.

I think this means bringing back the corner shops which have dissappeared around here as Meadowhall has decimated the local economy in Tinsley.

Would this call from Greenpeace influence your shopping habits?

No more corner shops, Im all for meadowhall and it's development

If we actually had any local shops, and they had all the stuff I wanted, and it was at least the same price as a supermarket, I'd still go to a supermarket, it's less hassle than trailing round 10 different shops getting a couple of things in each one.

When you only get 2 days off a week you don't want to spend most of one of them getting your weekly shopping in, as I doubt these local shops will be open at 6:30pm when I get home, or on Sunday, that means Saturday or nothing.

Originally posted by Hadron
On this mornings news on BBC there was a call for people to be careful about how much travelling they do to get their shopping.

The point they were trying to make is that a trip to a supermarket is inefficient when it comes travelling to large supermarkets. It would be best for local people to shop locally.

I think this means bringing back the corner shops which have dissappeared around here as Meadowhall has decimated the local economy in Tinsley.

Would this call from Greenpeace influence your shopping habits?

I would say the business model of local economies is outdated and as you quite rightly point out, has been destroyed by large out of town shopping malls and the hyper/supermarket. The practice of consumers buying locally simply isn't viable these days. Consumers demand convenience, quality, choice, availability and low price.... enter the 24hr Tesco.

I think enough people on this Forum know my political persuasion and my alignment with capitalism. I'm a consumer that doesn't want to be constrained by the rigours of 9-5 shopping, I bank online and I have no aversion to using a Tesco clubcard (who cares if they know I like bacon, freshly squeezed orange and buy Fairy liquid if they're going to give me free money).

Is capitalism evil? Probably. But you know what? People than moan about it grate on my nerves a whole lot more.

Not Meadowhall thats the answer to those excessive costs hun

well from what i know.
boots is expanding into alders upstairs and closing the downstairs unit, sainsburys is being broken down into lots of little units like the lanes.. there was a lot of trouble when this all happened as there were to be a few more shops moving into newwer units and now all this has happened it has been cancelled.

I've heard they are Making Dixons bigger so they can employ hundreds of really useful sales staff who honestly want to serve and help their customers!!!!

Originally posted by RazorSHarp
I've heard they are Making Dixons bigger so they can employ hundreds of really useful sales staff who honestly want to serve and help their customers!!!!

then you woke up

Given the vast number of conflicting rumours / suggestions / reports I think it would be safe to say that none of us have a clue what Meadowhall are going to do with the old Sainsbury's site.

bearing in mind the number of empty units id say its a fair bet that meadowhall dont know whats happeniing to the space either

dave

Originally posted by alchemist
there is also still that rumour floating around that morrisons are gonna build a store on either the spare bit of the meadowhall site where that horse circus was or in the weeon street redevelopment


The Weedon street rumour has been doing the rounds for at least five years, although it was going to be an ASDA last time I heard.

I've said this before but when I used to work at Sainsburys at Meadowhall a few years ago, it was clear that Meadowhall's managment did not like Sainsburys being there. I don't know why, but I think they would have preferred it if the store had closed altogether six years ago instead of downsizing.

i think all shopping malls are evil.

MEADOWHALL DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE SHOPS YET, ITS STILL UNDECIDED! You will have to wait awhile as they are not getting anywhere but certain things are true such as boot moving into Allders

Originally posted by Kerri
i think all shopping malls are evil.

You moved to the right city then!

Got to object they are not evil, whats evil are terrorists

so wats evryones thoughts and feelings about meadowhall?

Someone say something then lol :)

Hmmm I like to avoid it at weekends. But I enjoy going for a House of Fraser fix, besides that I enjoy the shopping in town for the things I need.

Other than that... I don't think it's layout makes sense. When I was doing my BA, my 'local' big mall was Bluewater, which makes sense- it's a circular design, so you just do a lap, go onto the other floor, do a lap (if you're on a slow, browsing trip). But Meadowhall's design means you end up going back on yourself, because of the different "arms" branching off (does this make any sense?!)

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
so wats evryones thoughts and feelings about meadowhall?

Since most of the shops in town are crap I have to go to Meadowhall for most of my clothes/trainers, usually I just go to Leeds though instead.

Leeds is cool for shopping and wats bluewater like?

Originally posted by Kerry_Lou
so wats evryones thoughts and feelings about meadowhall?

It's an air-conditioned sh*t hole with no windows and I'd rather shop in town and get wet rather than be coralled into hell on earth.

The only people it serves to aim are kids and people not from Sheffield. Anyone with sense goes to town.

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