ive just got a dog from the kennels ive put her for sale on here as she hates my cat and keeps attacking her, now i don't want to take the dog back there shes fantastic and very obideint but i dont want her to kill my cat either,

i need to know if she will get use to the cat or if i will have to keep them seperate all the time?

please help shes a lovely little dog

why dnt u put her in a crate so cat can get used to her in crate for a few hours whilst cat can still feel safe i did this with a foster and it worked well

LOL who didn't see this coming? :loopy: As I was asked to cool it I've not commented on her earlier posts asking for different breeds of dogs despite her quoting in one of them about the 'dogs' she has had before which have either tried to bite her kids or attack her cat - My first question would have been what she did with those dogs ...but I think we can all probably guess what happened to them. $$$ ...Yet people on here has blatantly encouraged her knowing full well what was coming. Oh well maybe it's time I started thinking like the rest of you, after all what's another poor confused dog? There are plenty more out there she can try:rolleyes:

just to let you know labyrinth the dogs i have previously had have all gone to my family members i dont just bin them off to kennels, unlike alot of people and i thought been as there are alot of people on here who know alot about dogs i would be able to find her a home here, as all family members have cats! i have decided shes not goin back to that kennels it was awful so im going to try to see if any of my friends will have her FOR FREE and take care of her shes an amazing dog but its not fair on her having to be shut away from the cat all the time

maybe in time they will get use to each other it might just take patience

just to let you know labyrinth the dogs i have previously had have all gone to my family members i dont just bin them off to kennels, unlike alot of people and i thought been as there are alot of people on here who know alot about dogs i would be able to find her a home here, as all family members have cats! i have decided shes not goin back to that kennels it was awful so im going to try to see if any of my friends will have her FOR FREE and take care of her shes an amazing dog but its not fair on her having to be shut away from the cat all the time

No not fair on the dog being passed from home to home either. Don't you think she has been through enough? Did you not ask if she had been used to cats and lets face it the only reason you are not taking her back to the kennels is because you wont get your money back. If it had been a rescue centre you had gone to they would have turned you down flat knowing your background with the other dogs you have had then decided to get shut off ..and seeing as this is not the first dog you are trying to sell because it doesn't get on with your cat I would have thought you would have made sure it was ok with cats in the first place! It is a terrier cross which you are selling for well over £100. But why doesn't that surprise me you said you sold your spitfire moggy kittens for the same price in another thread. It is in a terriers nature to chase after things that run. You only posted last week that you had gone to see the dog so you have had her less than a week and selling her already. I hope the forum can now begin to see what kind of person you are and stop pussyfooting around, after all it's done a lot of good to the poor dog that is shut away hasn't it?
She would have been better off in the Kennels at least she might have found a genuine loving family!

Hi Lawson

Firstly, I wouldn't want to advise on whether your dog will get used to the cat because all dogs are different and we don't know her history.
Usually with the right introduction they can learn to live in harmony, even if it means, like mine - the dogs live downstairs behind a stairgate and the cats upstairs with the safety of a stairgate and a cat flap to escape if they come downstairs.
Not that my dogs attack, Takara just wants to play with them and they don't feel the same way!

Secondly, if you do end up having to say goodbye, most kennels have a returns policy that you have to abide by. Depending on where you got her from, you may have signed a contract to say she goes back to kennels for rehoming if you can't keep her. This is so that they can keep track of the dogs that pass through there and I strongly suggest you abide by it.

I hope you can solve the problem - it's very early days but your cat was there first and you have to take the cat's safety into consideration. Why not consult a behaviourist who may be able to help you introduce them and see if they'll get along?

Sorry, just read your other thread...

As I said above, it depends what her history with cats is, but you can usually discourage chasing and biting in dogs that don't have a strong history of 'getting away with it'. I'd suggest speaking to a behaviourist who will tell you whether you have a chance with training her to leave the cat alone or not.

I also saw that you said you can't take her back, although you say on here you've chosen not to. If it really is that you can't I'm appalled that places can sell dogs on and tell you never to bring it back, I'm even more appalled that you weren't asked any questions before taking this dog and they didn't even ask about cats (although would've thought it was something you would ask too). It sounds to me like they're 'rehoming' (selling) the strays for a bit of extra cash for their boarding business :(

I hope this poor dog does end up settled somewhere and hopefully you'll have learnt from this experience to always check what the dog's like with cats before purchasing.

Are you sure you cant take It back? .... Ive never heard of a kennel refusing to accept one of their dogs back before (although you would probably forfiet the fee)

Ive done what someone said and put the dog in the crate i have for her, and at first when the cat went near the crate the dog went mad however now she is just looking at her, maybe they will be ok, I'm not going to give her to anyone or take her back and the kennels i got her from do seem to just be getting money for their boarding business theres no questions asked you give them £110 come back 7 days later and take the dog thats it, i explained to them that i had a cat and they said that obviously they didnt know if she'd like them or not, but im starting to be a little less concerned not beenas she is just looking at the cat now.

do you think Lotti that i could let the dog sleep in her crate at night then she can have rn of the house when cats out and then just upstairs when the cats in?
would that be ok?

Dont allow the dog to bark, growl, chase or bully the cat, she'll soon learn. Ive always had to have a 'settle in' period when a new animals arrived ..... but they live in harmony eventually

I would seriously consider investing in a couple of dog or baby-gates so that your cat can get through to other rooms safely whilst the dog can't. This will help to seperate them in the short term, stop you worrying about your cat and help to teach the dog that cats are not for chasing.

As for whether or not the dog will get used to the cat, usually, once they've been swiped across the nose by an angry cat a few times, most dogs get the message. These things take time. Even though our daft dobe lives with cats and cats were there before she arrived, she still occasionally thinks its great fun to chase - but she doesnt get the chance because of the dog gates.

Terriers are terriers for a reason- they pursue smaller prey and are tenacious (and quick). Your dog has got to learn to live alongside your cat -keep her on a long lead and sit with her when you introduce your cat - if the dog shows no sign of chasing the cat, you can let go of the lead but be quick to grab it again and say 'NO!' sharply if the dog attempts to chase. Reward the dog with small treats if it ignores or does not try to chase the cat.

If you are serious about giving the dog away, this would be a real shame as it sounds as if you've been in this position several times before- in which case, rather than put another dog through the stress of being rehomed and passed on yet again(which is not good for the dog), maybne you should accept that you are not ready to own a dog.

I desperatley want to keeop this dog shes amazing does as she is told and is great with my kids as shes an older dog and not a pup, and i tried showing her the cat thats when she bit the cat, but that was when she first came now shes calmed down a bit, she doesnt chase the cat she bites her which is why its so concerning

well then the cat will learn not to go near here. cat and dog introductions dont always start off well you cant just rehome the dog just because they initially dont get on. give the cat somewhere to go to get away they probably never will be friends

i think i just panicked and thought the dog would kill my cat but i remebered the dog crate i had in the shedso shes in their now fast asleep and seems happy,
she gets upset when we leave the room though i guess she thinks we wont come back but she just starts wagging her tail soon as we walk back in the room

When you say she bites the cat what exactly does she do?

when we first introduced them she first snapped at the cats tail but missed and i heard her teeth band together, then she managed to grab the cats fur onher neck and ended up with a mouth full of fur, now she barks at her and tries to bite her through the cage, and you can clearly see its not playing

if i could find someone who would look after her and care for her, and give her the love she clearly wants i would let them have her for free i just dont want to stick her back in a kennel she needs a forever home

am confused, are you really sure u would like her to be rehomed are, are you going to see how things go, you have got to give them time to bond and get to no each other

Do you have any pictures of her

i am about 99% sure this dog will never get on with the cat if they were just play fighting then fair enough give them time and they stop but she's not shes going mad, she just wants to kill the cat, i took her for a walk today (actually we've been out 4 times) and she's brilliant pulls on the lead but if you say no she stops, she is brilliant round people as well, but im stuck im devastated but i personally think the right thing to do is to find her a forever home, shes an amazing dog and so well behaved.

only problem is the cat, but my cat is my baby and she has to come first

would you like this thread closing, are do u want to continue getting advice

how long have u had can u give me name of kennels u got her from plz pm if prefered

Well she might calm down with the cat but from what you said she sounds as if she doesn't like cats at all, as Katkin said terriers can be really bad for chasing cats and in my experience if it is an ingrained dislike then that will not change.

You could persevere with the crate for a while but make sure that the cat has somewhere safe to go where the dog can't get her, maybe a gate on the stairs so the cat can go up there out of the way and not be chased or followed.
I think ultimately you have to decide whether to give it a couple of weeks and try to introduce them more slowly...if you think that you can do that, or let the dog go to another home without cats.
Maybe let the dog go to another rescue that will take care of her and check out people who want to adopt her?
I don't want to be judgmental at all but if you have had a few dogs in the past and its not worked out perhaps you should call it a day now, perhaps your not really in the right place in life for a dog at the moment.
Please don't get another, its just stress and upset, for both you and the dog.

I just want her to like the cat, i dont want her to go but its not fair onher or the cat how it is

all the dogs i have had in the past have been pups, which is why ive got an older dog this time, i do think she needs a new home, she really dislikes the cat is there no one onhere who can take her

you sound very desperate for her to go, am sure the cat will just get out of the way

you sound very desperate for her to go, am sure the cat will just get out of the way

It only takes once for the cat not to get out of the way.......... I don't need to say more.

thats just it my cat doesnt, shes stupid my cat she doesnt even ove when i pull up on drive i have to get out and move her, she seems to have no sense of danger, i know i havent had the dog long but ive even thought about getting rid of my cat for her now no dog has everhad this effect on me, but shes different

I know it's the other way round and I introduced a kitten to my dogs but a week on they've really settled down.

Mixie is even suckling on Jenny if it means she can steal some cat food.

all the dogs i have had in the past have been pups, which is why ive got an older dog this time, i do think she needs a new home, she really dislikes the cat is there no one onhere who can take her

The dog is your responsibility now, other people can't just take her away for you, this is something you need to sort out.
Call a few rescue centers tomorrow and see if any will take her though there might be a waiting list, please make sure that she is safe you owe her that much surely?
Please don't just give her to anyone who offers, I know you may be feeling desperate but nasty things can happen to little dogs, not everyone is what and who they seem :sad:

Hi can u read ur pm plz thanks

as uv pm'd me saying its cliffe kennels u got her from i then find this

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=340022

the kennels go by mount pleasent and cliffe kennels, mount pleasent is the boarding that they offer cliffe is the adoption part

what ever kennel you got her from, am sure they will take her back

what breed is the dog

i've been speaking to lotti and after her advice im going to try to keep her and persaveer (sorry cant spell) with her and the cat if need be ill just keep them apart why should i let someone take the only dog ive ever fell in love with immediatly, so im going to also speak to a behaviourist see if they can help me

the dog (lola) is a cross westie

i've been speaking to lotti and after her advice im going to try to keep her and persaveer (sorry cant spell) with her and the cat if need be ill just keep them apart why should i let someone take the only dog ive ever fell in love with immediatly, so im going to also speak to a behaviourist see if they can help me

great, well done lotti to the rescue i hope it works out for you, hope u can post some pictures of lola

im going to bath her tomorrow, shes a bit scruffy but with her only just cominghome, i didnt want to scare her or stress her in anyway, then ill get the camear out, she likes to sit on my knee so im sure she'll pose for me

what do u think she is crossed with, is she pure white (when she has had a bath) cant wait to see pictures of her, so glad u have decided to keep her,

Shall I delete your re homing thread for Lola then now?

Please do keep us informed on this poor dog. It sounds like it just needs a good home where it can be loved. I hope that you can offer him what he needs. Regardless of whether your cat is your baby or not, you have taken the responsibility to care for this dog and I hope that you can stop finding problems and live up to your responsibility!

at least give the dog time to settle into her new home properly before making any drastic decisions. it's stressful enough getting used to a new environment, and if she isn't used to cats that's extra to deal with. when we brought ours home she sat on her bed looking nervous for a while, just looking round and wondering where she was. you've only had her a few days, so stick to your decision and put the work in as you obviously have fallen in love with her :)

I agree with Lindsay,
As I've already said Lawson - your cat's safety comes first at the end of the day. I understand that. I'm not a cat person particularly, I love the cats I have but mum got them not me ;) I'm far more a dog person but if I adopted a dog that could seriously endanger my cats (even after the settling in period) it would have to go - the cats were here first!!

However, it sounds like she's had a really rough time and once things are less scary for her and she's more within the home then getting used to a cat may not be so difficult. As I've already told you, you will always have to manage the situation, ie. keep the dog shut away from the cat when you're out etc. but if you provide enough escapes for the cat and put the time into the dog (which you will, if you have fallen in love with her) then I don't see why it shouldn't work unless something really drastic has happened in her past.

Good luck and keep me updated.

You need to give them time to get used to eachother, they`ll get there...............................eventually.:D

Please do keep us informed on this poor dog. It sounds like it just needs a good home where it can be loved. I hope that you can offer him what he needs. Regardless of whether your cat is your baby or not, you have taken the responsibility to care for this dog and I hope that you can stop finding problems and live up to your responsibility!

I totally agree with olliekitten

I agree wholeheartedly with the others who have stated that all of the animals who you have taken into your home are your responsibility and you need to put in the time and effort in showing Lola what is right and what is unacceptable before you just disregard her.

Right now she doesn't know which way's up. She's in a new home after being in kennels, presumably after being picked up as a stray. That's an awful lot to take in in such a short time.

Consistency, love and firm rules should help her to see that whether or not she wants to chase the cat (be it to play with her or to eat her) it's not what you want her to do and, since you're the boss, what you say goes. She gets rewards (love, fuss, play, treats) when she does things the way you want her to and doesn't get your attention when she does things any other way.

Molly (big daft overgrown puppy of a GSD) wants to play with my adult cats but they don't see her running towards them as fun so we've stopped her from doing it. She now lies in her bed and whines and whimpers with her tail going mad when they come into the room as she tries really hard not to jump up and play with them because she knows that she's not allowed to do it. When she's quiet and calm on her bed when the cats are in the room she gets lovely bits of dried black pudding as treats and some fuss.

She's a clever girl and we're getting there slowly, just like we're getting there teaching her that I don't want her to guard me against every other dog she ever sees. I was so proud of her the other day when we had a run out and ball chucking session on our local field and she totally ignored the other 5 dogs that were there- it was such a triumph of her learning.

I totally agree with olliekitten

Shihtzumad you have been one of the worst for giving her encouragement. Surely you must have read her other posts about the other dogs (which, I might add she has had from puppies! so there's no excuse) that have tried to attack her kids or her cat which she has got rid of. I can't believe that not one single person in this group has spoken up against her getting yet another dog knowing full well what was coming. What is it with you lot? are you that desparite to make yourselves look good or just too afraid to be criticised so you go along with it some even encouraging her. When you should have been speaking up and trying to prevent another dog going through what all her others have. It's time people spoke up for the dogs, they are not a fashion accessory or a piece of furniture but part of the family that shouldn't be disposed of at will. I'm sorry if you don't like what I have to say but as you all know I'm not one who minces my words, I don't care if people like me or not but I do care about animals and their needless suffering so ban me for speaking up if you like. I guess that's the only way you will ever shut me up:P

Shihtzumad you have been one of the worst for giving her encouragement. Surely you must have read her other posts about the other dogs (which, I might add she has had from puppies! so there's no excuse) that have tried to attack her kids or her cat which she has got rid of. I can't believe that not one single person in this group has spoken up against her getting yet another dog knowing full well what was coming. What is it with you lot? are you that desparite to make yourselves look good or just too afraid to be criticised so you go along with it some even encouraging her. When you should have been speaking up and trying to prevent another dog going through what all her others have. It's time people spoke up for the dogs, they are not a fashion accessory or a piece of furniture but part of the family that shouldn't be disposed of at will. I'm sorry if you don't like what I have to say but as you all know I'm not one who minces my words, I don't care if people like me or not but I do care about animals and their needless suffering so ban me for speaking up if you like. I guess that's the only way you will ever shut me up:P

i am just glad she is keeping the dog and NOT be returned to kennel life, as for the past puppies and dogs that she has had i am not aware of any. I do no that she has asked for various breeds of dogs. I for one do care about animals, i have a few dogs myself.

End of the day if lawson wants to rehome the dog then it is up to her, all we can do is advice and encourage.

i am just glad she is keeping the dog and NOT be returned to kennel life, as for the past puppies and dogs that she has had i am not aware of any. I do no that she has asked for various breeds of dogs. I for one do care about animals, i have a few dogs myself.

End of the day if lawson wants to rehome the dog then it is up to her, all we can do is advice and encourage.


I haven't bred any puppies for such a long time but what I usually do is ask myself if I would be happy leaving one of my pups there. She did mention about the other dogs she has had in one of her post but no one commented. No rescue centre would have allowed her to have a dog knowing her background. I certinally would not be happy if it was one of my pups, maybe I'm just fussy but can you honestly say you would be happy with her having a pup you had bred? If it was in the kennels it could have had a chance of finding a stable home instead of being locked away like she said it was in an earlier post.

I haven't bred any puppies for such a long time but what I usually do is ask myself if I would be happy leaving one of my pups there. She did mention about the other dogs she has had in one of her post but no one commented. No rescue centre would have allowed her to have a dog knowing her background. I certinally would not be happy if it was one of my pups, maybe I'm just fussy but can you honestly say you would be happy with her having a pup you had bred? If it was in the kennels it could have had a chance of finding a stable home instead of being locked away like she said it was in an earlier post.

I understand your fustration's, It is heartbreaking, annoying and infuriating to think someone is mindlessly chosing pets then losing interest in the first 24 hours, Lawson did say that all her previous pups (i dont know how many) all went to family ... where i hope they have found happy forever homes, and it looks like shes persevering with the lastest pooch.
If it doesnt work out this time, i do hope she realises that she probably isnt ready or in a position to give a home to a dog at this time.

I haven't bred any puppies for such a long time but what I usually do is ask myself if I would be happy leaving one of my pups there. She did mention about the other dogs she has had in one of her post but no one commented. No rescue centre would have allowed her to have a dog knowing her background. I certinally would not be happy if it was one of my pups, maybe I'm just fussy but can you honestly say you would be happy with her having a pup you had bred? If it was in the kennels it could have had a chance of finding a stable home instead of being locked away like she said it was in an earlier post.

Well i have recently bred my shih tzu and all of mine went to good homes, i did have a waiting list for some of them, and was stated if they for any reason they was unable to keep one of my pups they was to return them to me. I for one wouldn't like one of my puppies going to different homes.

Labyrinth,

I have not seen anything about other dogs and puppies until you brought it up and she responded.

As for trying to make myself look good or being criticised - it's nothing like that - I don't have to make myself look good to anyone on here, but your post certainly comes across as self righteous, all knowing and overall, trying to make yourself look good.
I had no idea of previous dogs when I encouraged her in the thread she posted about seeing this dog in a rescue but I certainly am not going to turn around and say 'you don't deserve a dog - get rid of it' I will encourage her (and have done) to seek help from a qualified behaviourist and persevere with the dog.

As for whether I'd rehome one of my pups to her... I thought about breeding from my bitch (but didn't) and no, I wouldn't have let Lawson have a pup as I know her (only from what I've read on the forum) but then I wouldn't let you have one either!

If she gives up on this one and chooses another, then I'd be the first to discourage it - but right now she needs constructive advice and help to sort the problem with the dog and the cat. Shouting and ranting won't help anyone.

Oh and as for 'no excuse' because she had dogs from puppyhood - that means nothing! It's not all down to nurture, there are things in Takara's nature that has nothing to do with the way she's been brought up and I've had her since a pup.

All dogs are trainable - but only to a certain degree and that differs for each dog. A lot of it is down to breeding, rearing BEFORE the pup is sold on and obviously some is down to training, which not everyone is that good at or understands very well.

When we first got Angus, he was a nightmare with the cats, chinchillas, bird. It only lasted a few days and now he will sit on the sofa with the cats (The cat does give him a quick swipe now and then) He is still a pain with other people cats, but has got used to ours, It may just take a bit of time.

Oh and as for 'no excuse' because she had dogs from puppyhood - that means nothing! It's not all down to nurture, there are things in Takara's nature that has nothing to do with the way she's been brought up and I've had her since a pup.

All dogs are trainable - but only to a certain degree and that differs for each dog. A lot of it is down to breeding, rearing BEFORE the pup is sold on and obviously some is down to training, which not everyone is that good at or understands very well.

LOL:hihi: First of all Lotti, I wouldn't want one of your pups thanks. Some people might think it is ok to have to seperate their house into two where the cats have to live upstairs and their dogs down but I could never live like that:gag: I mean fancy having an animal you can't even trust around your cats so you are the wrong sort to be giving anyone advice and as for suggesting she seeks a qualified behaviourist, it's a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

Secondly about your quote above ..that gave me a good old belly laugh because it would only come from someone with absolutely no idea at all how to train a pup, if you have had yours since a pup and you still can't trust it around your cats then that is down to you and no one else. When I was living with my parents we have jack russels, yorkies, wippets and other various terrier kind of dogs. All were from puppies and all got to live alongside the cats without a problem. When I was engaged to a dog breeder in Kent he had show Rotties, Dobermans, mastiffs and a few more working breeds all lived with cats again no problems. I've owned Cavaliers, GSDs, St bernards, Newfoundlands and now a shih tzu. All have been from puppies and have been trained to get along with cats. My cats range in age from 8 weeks to 13 years old. So please don't tell me I have no idea what I am talking about. I have shown, bred, trained, had PAT dogs and also rescued cats and dogs besides living alongside them since I was born.

shihtzumad exactly, when you bred any animal you have a responsibility to it until it dies and want the best home possible. I would be mortified if any animal I bred ended up in a home where it was going to be locked away or passed on. I know I go a little too far sometimes but I need to know that the animals I breed are happy so I am in contact with all those that I allow to have one of my babies. I check with them every six months or so to see how they are going. I don't go and check their homes but I do ask for vet references and make them sign a contract that the animal will be passed back to me should they find for any reason that they can no longer keep it at whatever age. I have been lucky that I have only ever had one returned, Daisy who's now 5 and lives here quite happily as part of the family. It makes me so angry to see people getting dogs who really don't have a clue and should have given it some thought before just going out and buying one LOL not content with the animals she has already she pms me this ...

**Edited out private pm.**

Labyrinth,
Shouting and ranting won't help anyone.


Actually I have found that pussyfooting around her doesn't help in the slightest. Has all the sucking up to her and making yourself look good helped the poor dog? I think there's only one answer to that.

Bout time people opened their eyes and start to think of the dogs welfare for a change!

how can you talk labyrinth you breed dogs? all these dogs being abandoned and you breed more for people to be abandoned and im the person in the wrong? i'd take a long hard look at your attitude to breeding

LOL I bred my Newfoundland 10 years ago to a Champion from one of the top kennels around at the time. She had 5 pups, Thunder, Murphy, Benson, Sophie and Molly Saddly Benson died in August last year. The others are all doing well. My dog was hip scored and heart tested. The puppies all had breeding and export endorcements placed on the registration by me. They were all tattooed, vaccinated and vet checked before they went to their new homes. All of the people that took them still remain good friends and I get photos from them, christmas cards and was even invited to Mollys 10th birthday party in Feb. I saw Murphy about 4 years ago at crufts and used to see Benson quite often as he only lived in Derby. So yes I know what happened to them all thanks Lawson because I went to the trouble of finding only the best homes possible for them and that is because I care about the animals I own and breed, They aren't just sold to the highest bidder like your moggie cats were.

Lawson, if you're still worried about cat/dog meeting in the early days- get a dog gate- ask on sheffield freecycle- people are always giving them (or baby gates) away for free.

In Lotti's and other peoples defence they dont always encourage people to buy animals. I know there have been some discussions re Lawson before:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=317513

I do agree with you labrynth tho re the op. It does seem like they are more like toys than life long companions.

LOL I bred my Newfoundland 10 years ago to a Champion from one of the top kennels around at the time. She had 5 pups, Thunder, Murphy, Benson, Sophie and Molly Saddly Benson died in August last year. The others are all doing well. My dog was hip scored and heart tested. The puppies all had breeding and export endorcements placed on the registration by me. They were all tattooed, vaccinated and vet checked before they went to their new homes. All of the people that took them still remain good friends and I get photos from them, christmas cards and was even invited to Mollys 10th birthday party in Feb. I saw Murphy about 4 years ago at crufts and used to see Benson quite often as he only lived in Derby. So yes I know what happened to them all thanks Lawson because I went to the trouble of finding only the best homes possible for them and that is because I care about the animals I own and breed, They aren't just sold to the highest bidder like your moggie cats were.

I wish all breeders were as responsable as this, well done Ladyrinth.

Oh dear here we go again, Labyrinth there is no need to be so scathing with everyone else, I am sure that we are all on the same side, just because other people don't want to tear other members to bits verbally does not mean that they are not trying to help or do not care.....and further more you really have no idea what has been said by PM and other means have you? but you see fit to judge everyone else as lacking.
You can tear into people as much as you like but really what good will it do you on here? apart from making you feel better perhaps.
If you are so upset then you take the dog and rehome it, don't sit there verbally beating up others are are trying to do things in "the real world" to help the situation, its really not fair or right.
I had to edit out the PM you posted as it is a private message and it is against the rules to publish a private message on the forum.
Honestly Labyrinth I have no wish what so ever to lock horns with you, I just don't see the point, and I know that you care about the animals, but really there is just no need to talk like this to people at all.:sad:

I'm sorry you don't agree with the way I talk to people but like I have said it does make me angry to see no one speaking up when they had the opportunity having read about all the other dogs she has rehomed. It could have saved this poor dog from going through what all her others have. People do take more notice if you are blunt, to the point and honest from the start. I know it doesn't get you any brownie points and makes you seem like a real bitch but I don't mind people thinking that about me as long as it get the point across and makes the person think. I have found that taking the softly softly approach rarely works as they just see the good bits and discard the rest.

Shall we get back on topic.

Lawson can you tell us how lola is doing today,

I'm sorry you don't agree with the way I talk to people but like I have said it does make me angry to see no one speaking up when they had the opportunity having read about all the other dogs she has rehomed. It could have saved this poor dog from going through what all her others have. People do take more notice if you are blunt, to the point and honest from the start. I know it doesn't get you any brownie points and makes you seem like a real bitch but I don't mind people thinking that about me as long as it get the point across and makes the person think. I have found that taking the softly softly approach rarely works as they just see the good bits and discard the rest.

The problem with 'seeming like a real bitch' is that offending people doesn't make them listen to you. Quite the contrary in my opinion.

Additionally if any of your posts are considered offensive or personal attacks then your posts are likely to be removed and your account suspended, so getting your point across without offending anyone or posting personal attacks is in your interest.

A little update for all you people who have helped me, Lola is ok today but the cat has been out most of the day we went for a long walk, and ive found its old men she doesnt like, or pigeons but that was funny seeing her barking as they flew away, shes had a bath and quite contented and loves the kids

The problem with 'seeming like a real bitch' is that offending people doesn't make them listen to you. Quite the contrary in my opinion.

LOL I've always found that in my line of business, it's the only way to get anything done;) ....but thanks Med I'll take on board what you are saying

A little update for all you people who have helped me, Lola is ok today but the cat has been out most of the day we went for a long walk, and ive found its old men she doesnt like, or pigeons but that was funny seeing her barking as they flew away, shes had a bath and quite contented and loves the kids

Thats really good, any pictures now she is all clean and had a bath

OMG Labrynth - get over yourself!! :lol:

I CAN trust my dogs around the cats. The younger, silly one who chases them will quite happily sit on the same bed as the cats but they hate her.

She will chase them but it's all about play and they have safe spaces because they DON'T LIKE it. Not because they're in danger! Deary me! I've seen her catch up with cats, rats, all sorts and she does a silly dance for them - soooo dangerous :roll:

When I allowed my dog upstairs, she sat on the bed with the cat, only if the cat ran did she try to play and chase - now, she lives downstairs because I'm disabled and can't hoover the stairs - if the dogs don't go upstairs then I have less of a job on to hoover the hairs up off them. The cats CHOOSE to live upstairs because they were never brought up around dogs and don't like them but they are quite happy to come down while the dogs are around if they want to go out.

So I'm sorry if you don't like it, but my health comes first and that means my house is separated!

On top of that I would advise anyone - regardless of whether their dog seems to be sound around their cats to have somewhere for their cats to go to away from the dogs. Even if the dog is fine, the cat may just need a break.

Your high and mighty attitude is quite remarkable and as for pot, kettle, black - look at yourself when you say i try to make myself sound good!

The point I was making before was, I wouldn't let Lawson have a pup because I only know anything about her through the forum and the same goes for you - I wasn't saying you weren't a fit owner. I was simply saying as we all only know Lawson through the forum, we wouldn't rehome a pup to her, and because of the posts I've read from you, and the fact I only know you through the forum I wouldn't rehome a pup to you either.

So get off your high horse, stop judging everyone around you and get over yourself. Nobody's impressed by how many blinkin show dogs you might have owned or bred!

A little update for all you people who have helped me, Lola is ok today but the cat has been out most of the day we went for a long walk, and ive found its old men she doesnt like, or pigeons but that was funny seeing her barking as they flew away, shes had a bath and quite contented and loves the kids

Great news!

One sound training tip: Tired dogs are usually better behaved ;) Lots of exercise and stimulation will lessen her need to get to the cat!

as soon as i get my mums camera i will take some pictures and show you all my new little girl

Great news!

One sound training tip: Tired dogs are usually better behaved ;) Lots of exercise and stimulation will lessen her need to get to the cat!

the cat is in the living room now and lola is looking but not really bothering with her even when she went near the crate so fingers crossed its working

Oh that's good news. As I said in a pm, you need to remove any chance of reinforcement and if the cat running, or Lola being able to chase, or catch is reinforcement then a cage will be great. She'll experience the stimulus (the cat) and not what's reinforcing so the behaviour should die away in time.

Take it one step at a time and don't push her too fast or expect too much too soon and I'm sure you'll get there ;)

problem i have now is she's hardly eating anything, i hav tried loadsa different foods and asked the kennels they say she has dry and meat thats all they told me but shes not bothered with what ive been giving her,

change of enviroment, just keep tempting her with different things, have u got any chicken for her

She's only a teeny little dog and my 30kg GSD only eats 3 cups of dry food a day (on a good day- less on other days). Have you tried any food for a week without changing it so that she knows that's the food that she's expected to eat?

i bought this food from pets at home, that said it had all extra goodness extra as she is very very thin but shes just notbothered with it

Try not to change the food too much, choose something quite smelly and nutritious, put it down for her and leave it for 20 minutes. If she doesn't eat it (you can encourage her if you like) then pick it up and she doesn't get fed again until the next meal time.

Try not to make a fuss of the fact she hasn't eaten, just ignore it and if she does bark and seems hungry later you could always put it down for her then instead of waiting til the next meal (like shihtzumad says she's still adjusting so try not to make it too hard for her).

Just keep to the same food and don't worry if she doesn't eat, she won't starve herself ;)

Molly's on a mix of Wellbeloved because it's good for her and some cheap stuff from Makro because she'll eat it. They don't always like the things that we expect them to.

i bought this food from pets at home, that said it had all extra goodness extra as she is very very thin but shes just notbothered with it

You could try adding some stock or sardines/pilchards? I only know one dog that doesn't like fish - sardines always work for my oldie if he's been off his food :D

OMG Labrynth - get over yourself!! :lol:

I CAN trust my dogs around the cats. The younger, silly one who chases them will quite happily sit on the same bed as the cats but they hate her.

She will chase them but it's all about play and they have safe spaces because they DON'T LIKE it. Not because they're in danger! Deary me! I've seen her catch up with cats, rats, all sorts and she does a silly dance for them - soooo dangerous :roll:

When I allowed my dog upstairs, she sat on the bed with the cat, only if the cat ran did she try to play and chase - now, she lives downstairs because I'm disabled and can't hoover the stairs - if the dogs don't go upstairs then I have less of a job on to hoover the hairs up off them. The cats CHOOSE to live upstairs because they were never brought up around dogs and don't like them but they are quite happy to come down while the dogs are around if they want to go out.

So I'm sorry if you don't like it, but my health comes first and that means my house is separated!

On top of that I would advise anyone - regardless of whether their dog seems to be sound around their cats to have somewhere for their cats to go to away from the dogs. Even if the dog is fine, the cat may just need a break.

Your high and mighty attitude is quite remarkable and as for pot, kettle, black - look at yourself when you say i try to make myself sound good!

The point I was making before was, I wouldn't let Lawson have a pup because I only know anything about her through the forum and the same goes for you - I wasn't saying you weren't a fit owner. I was simply saying as we all only know Lawson through the forum, we wouldn't rehome a pup to her, and because of the posts I've read from you, and the fact I only know you through the forum I wouldn't rehome a pup to you either.

So get off your high horse, stop judging everyone around you and get over yourself. Nobody's impressed by how many blinkin show dogs you might have owned or bred!

You know what Lotti I read the first part of your post and can't be bothered to read anymore of this utter crap, but isn't it funny how some rules only apply to certain members. You were the one who started throwing insults around lotti left right and centre. Now .. I wonder if any of the mods are going to criticize you??? PMSL I'll eat my hat if they do :hihi:

Aw that's a shame, if you were able to read the rest you'd have realised I wasn't throwing insults around - as I explained that you had misunderstood my comment about not letting you have a pup ;)

I'm heart broken that you couldn't read my post :lol:

I'm going to close this now as its getting personal. If anyone has helpful advice for Lawson, please PM them. Lawson, if you have any other dog/cat behavioural issues you'd like to discuss, please start a new thread.

Thanks.