Rangers in Uefa Final

Anyone say "hes gonna miss this" as soon as Vierri walked up to the spot?

Awesome.

My heart almost couldn't take the stress.

Excellent result

Think Cousin will definately be going to Fulham next season. At least now Boyd will get a chance.
How cool is Novo! :thumbsup:

So who's booked time off work to go to Manchester in a couple weeks?

Well done from a Bhoy ......... grrrrr

Seriously though, an excellent result for you away from home, albeit nail biting :thumbsup:

im absolutely exstatic(sp)

maybe sport shops in meadowhall might start getting some rangers kits in and not stockpiling them green and white ermmmmm things they sell

Rangers in Uefa Final

Anyone say "hes gonna miss this" as soon as Vierri walked up to the spot?

Yeah although I thought he would hit the post or the keeper would of saved it. Didnt think he was going to totally fluff it like he did. lol

Just goes to show how unimportant the UEFA Cup has become if the final's to be contested by little-known teams from minor countries. If they want the competition to be taken seriously, maybe they should scrap the pointless group games and the admission of sides knocked out of the Champions League.
When even Bolton Wanderers would rather field a reserve team and get knocked out than make it to the final, it must be obvious that reaching the final is little or no achievement!

Just goes to show how unimportant the UEFA Cup has become if the final's to be contested by little-known teams from minor countries.

Yes Basil - I'm sure Bayern really just couldnt be bothered to beat Zenit because of the possiblity of embarrasment of getting into the final.

Little known? Rangers? If I didnt know you were just trolling i'd be offended by your stupidity.

Woo and indeed Hoo! Well done Rangers!

Just goes to show how unimportant the UEFA Cup has become if the final's to be contested by little-known teams from minor countries. If they want the competition to be taken seriously, maybe they should scrap the pointless group games and the admission of sides knocked out of the Champions League.
When even Bolton Wanderers would rather field a reserve team and get knocked out than make it to the final, it must be obvious that reaching the final is little or no achievement!

Fiorentina
PSV
Sporting Lisbon
Anderlecht
Everton
Tottenham
Hamburg
Marseille
Athletico Madrid
Galatasary
Bayern Munich
Benfica

Little known Teams???:loopy:

Fiorentina
PSV
Sporting Lisbon
Anderlecht
Everton
Tottenham
Hamburg
Marseille
Athletico Madrid
Galatasary
Bayern Munich
Benfica

Little known Teams???:loopy:

Just goes to show how unimportant the UEFA Cup has become if the finalls to be contested by little-known teams from minor countries.

None of the teams you mentioned have made it to the final. Likewise, on a European scale, both Zenit St Petersburg and Rangers are relatively little-known teams; one has never won a European trophy, the other hasn't won one since 1972. Therefore I'm still correct!

Yes Basil - I'm sure Bayern really just couldnt be bothered to beat Zenit because of the possiblity of embarrasment of getting into the final.



They gave us a hiding that's for sure.They may be "little known" but they have a fantastic team.
Even given that we had an off day they ran rings round us last night and we had players of the quality of Toni,Ribery,Lucio,Kahn,Van Bommel,Klose,Lahm and Schweinsteiger out there.Frightening!

They have also just started their season and are very fresh,we,like Rangers are coming to the end of a long hard season and it shows.

Pograbynak will miss the final but Arshavin and the two full backs will return from suspension.
At least we've done the double in Germany by way of consolation!

I saw Zenit play Leverkeusen in the first leg. They were SO fast! And a very good counter attacking team.

None of the teams you mentioned have made it to the final. Likewise, on a European scale, both Zenit St Petersburg and Rangers are relatively little-known teams; one has never won a European trophy, the other hasn't won one since 1972. Therefore I'm still correct!

Jesus mate do you even know where Zenit St Petersburg is???

RUSSIA

You consider RUSSIA to be a minor country???.....duh:loopy:

Therefore you are infact INCORRECT

Jesus mate do you even know where Zenit St Petersburg is???

RUSSIA

You consider RUSSIA to be a minor country???.....duh:loopy:

Therefore you are infact INCORRECT

He said they were relatively little-known European teams. And they are.

As far as football goes, Russia is extremely minor I'd say.

None of the teams you mentioned have made it to the final. Likewise, on a European scale, both Zenit St Petersburg and Rangers are relatively little-known teams; one has never won a European trophy, the other hasn't won one since 1972. Therefore I'm still correct!

You are a good fisherman Basil but If I said England hadn't won the World Cup since 1966 how would that relate to the above quote?

He said they were relatively little-known European teams. And they are.

As far as football goes, Russia is extremely minor I'd say.

NO
He said they were from minor countries and Russia is far from minor

NO
He said they were from minor countries and Russia is far from minor

I have to disagree with you there. In footballing terms, Russia is minor in my opinion.

I have to disagree with you there. In footballing terms, Russia is minor in my opinion.

The Elite Leagues
England
Italy
Spain
France
Germany

The 2nd Tear of European Football Leagues
Holland
Sweden
Portugal
Russia

The MINOR Leagues
Denmark
Finland
Switzerland
Norway
Scotland
Wales
Ireland
Leichtenstein
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:rolleyes:

Well you get the drift

The 2nd Tear of European Football Leagues
Holland
Sweden
Portugal
Russia


Sweden? Russia?

Seriously? Do those two leagues have ANY European trophies between them? I seem to recall Spartak Moscow reaching a final once, but don't remember if they won it. Compared to the leagues you list as elite, they're very, very minor indeed.

The Elite Leagues
England
Italy
Spain
France
Germany

The 2nd Tear of European Football Leagues
Holland
Sweden
Portugal
Russia

The MINOR Leagues
Denmark
Finland
Switzerland
Norway
Scotland
Wales
Ireland
Leichtenstein
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:rolleyes:

Well you get the drift

France...elite? Hardly any of the national side play in France, a poor league being won by the only club being bankrolled.. Sweden second tier? Tears of laughter more like. It it looks like you have just jotted down the first countries that come into your head mate.

Sweden? Russia?

I seem to recall Spartak Moscow reaching a final once, but don't remember if they won it.

That was DYNAMO Moscow who lost in the 1972 Cup winners cup final,funnily enough to Rangers in Barcelona,when Rangers fans infamously rioted.

That was DYNAMO Moscow who lost in the 1972 Cup winners cup final,funnily enough to Rangers in Barcelona,when Rangers fans infamously rioted.

What, they rioted when they won, what will happen to Manchester if they lose:loopy:

Sweden? Russia?

Seriously? Do those two leagues have ANY European trophies between them? I seem to recall Spartak Moscow reaching a final once, but don't remember if they won it. Compared to the leagues you list as elite, they're very, very minor indeed.

SERIOUS

European championship winners 1960 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1964 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1972 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1988 RUSSIA

I would say that is a pretty good endoursement for the Russian League!!!

France...elite? Hardly any of the national side play in France, a poor league being won by the only club being bankrolled.. Sweden second tier? Tears of laughter more like. It it looks like you have just jotted down the first countries that come into your head mate.

SERIOUS
The many MANY french footballers that play for a hell of a lot of major Euopean football teams have come from the Clairefontain football academy in france and then signed up and brought up through the ranks of FRENCH football teams and then sold on for vast profits

Plus

European Championship winners 1984 FRANCE
European Championship winners 2000 FRANCE

SERIOUS

European championship winners 1960 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1964 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1972 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1988 RUSSIA

I would say that is a pretty good endoursement for the Russian League!!!

You'd be a goddam fool, then. We're talking about league clubs, not national teams. Apparently you don't know the difference.

SERIOUS
The many MANY french footballers that play for a hell of a lot of major Euopean football teams have come from the Clairefontain football academy in france and then signed up and brought up through the ranks of FRENCH football teams and then sold on for vast profits

Plus

European Championship winners 1984 FRANCE
European Championship winners 2000 FRANCE

Mate, pack it in. Your slowly slipping beneath the waves.

Your changing the tune from the quality of the french league to some flippin academy.

SERIOUS

European championship winners 1960 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1964 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1972 RUSSIA
European championship runners up 1988 RUSSIA

I would say that is a pretty good endoursement for the Russian League!!!

That would be the USSR, not Russia.

SERIOUS

Since when have national teams taken part in club competitions? This isn't even a debate anymore.

You'd be a goddam fool, then. We're talking about league clubs, not national teams. Apparently you don't know the difference.

National teams that got their players from National Clubs

England has the best League in Europe without doubt

And How many Euro Finals have we been in
How Many have Spain been in???
How many have Italy been in???
How many have Germany been in???

Mate, pack it in. Your slowly slipping beneath the waves.

Your changing the tune from the quality of the french league to some flippin academy.

The Quality of the French League and the Quality of the French players is because of the academy ffs

Anyone who knows anything about football knows it isnt just "some" academy

The Quality of the French League and the Quality of the French players is because of the academy ffs


Sort of killed yourself there mate.

Is this still open for discussion, `cos your sinking like a fat rat.?

National teams that got their players from National Clubs

Let's try this in words of one syllable, as far as possible, shall we?


We are talking about league teams. Russian league teams have never won anything. Russia has a crap league.

Which part of this aren't you getting?

Let's try this in words of one syllable, as far as possible, shall we?


We are talking about league teams. Russian league teams have never won anything. Russia has a crap league.

Which part of this aren't you getting?

Jesus you really do think you are something you aint dont ya

Let me try spell it out to you CLEARLY

The top 4 leagues are
England
Spain
Italy
France

After that are the countries i mentioned including Russia

Below that are the MINOR countries leagues

The fact that Russia have been in the finals of 4 European Championships which is more than any of the above mentioned with players from RUSSIAN LEAGUE TEAMS surely implies that the Russian league is NOT minor or crap or rubbish

The Welsh League would be considered minor
Surely you arent putting the Russian league on a par with the welsh

What part of that dont you get???:loopy:

The fact that Russia have been in the finals of 4 European Championships which is more than any of the above mentioned with players from RUSSIAN LEAGUE TEAMS surely implies that the Russian league is NOT minor or crap or rubbish


It implies no such thing. We are - for the what, fifth time - talking about club results, not national ones. No Russian club has ever won a European trophy.

It implies no such thing. We are - for the what, fifth time - talking about club results, not national ones. No Russian club has ever won a European trophy.

Actually we are arguing about someone one here saying that the 2 teams competing for the Uefa Cup this year are from MINOR counties
And Russia is far from a MINOR country football related or otherwise

Actually we are arguing about someone one here saying that the 2 teams competing for the Uefa Cup this year are from MINOR counties

Precisely. And since it's the Uefa Cup, for which no national side ever enters or ever will, we're talking about league terms, not national terms.

Let me try spell it out to you CLEARLY

The top 4 leagues are
England
Spain
Italy
France


I thought you had the German league in there before? Either way, your still spewing bile.

No Russian club has ever won a European trophy.

To be fair, CSKA Moscow did win the UEFA cup 2-3 seasons back.

Jesus you really do think you are something you aint dont ya

I think it's more the fact that you're spouting a spurious argument.

Let me try spell it out to you CLEARLY

Please do.

The top 4 leagues are
England
Spain
Italy
France

In your opinion. This certainly isn't fact.

After that are the countries i mentioned including Russia

Below that are the MINOR countries leagues

The fact that Russia have been in the finals of 4 European Championships which is more than any of the above mentioned with players from RUSSIAN LEAGUE TEAMS surely implies that the Russian league is NOT minor or crap or rubbish

It implies nothing of the sort. Of the 54 Championships in the Soviet Top League's history, just four teams carved up 43 championships between them. Of those four, three (Dynamo Kiev, Spartak Moscow, and Dynamo Moscow) had 36 championships, and 33 runners up spots between them.

Hardly strength in depth, is it?

The Welsh League would be considered minor
Surely you arent putting the Russian league on a par with the welsh

More to the point, why are you creating 'divisions' of leagues?

Actually we are arguing about someone one here saying that the 2 teams competing for the Uefa Cup this year are from MINOR counties
And Russia is far from a MINOR country football related or otherwise

And you're floundering around, waffling on about the performance of national sides in international competition, which has nothing to do with club football at all.

Going back to Rangers, 10 of the 27 players with squad numbers aren't from Scotland. Over a third of the squad can't enhance the Scottish national side.

Are you getting the picture now?

By the same token, looking over the history of the UEFA Cup finalists' home country's records in European competition, these statistics come up.

Scotland

3 wins - 2 Cup Winner's Cups, and a European Cup
6 finalists* - 2 CWC runners up, 2 UEFA Cup runners up, 1 EC runner up.

Russia

4 wins - 3 CWCs, 1 UEFA Cup.
2 finalists* - 1 CWC runner up.

* includes this year's UEFA Cup final's teams.

Not much difference really, is there?

I think it's more the fact that you're spouting a spurious argument.

In your opinion. This certainly isn't fact.

Go On Then
name a league to match any i named

To be fair, CSKA Moscow did win the UEFA cup 2-3 seasons back.

Sort of shot yaself in the foot there Heyesey didnt ya :hihi:

Go On Then
name a league to match any i named

I don't need to. That's the point.

I don't need to. That's the point.

Go on then
Name a league Better than
England
Spain
Italy
France

Lets see what your point is

That would be the USSR, not Russia.

The USSR was known as Russia at the time u plank

Go on then
Name a league Better than
England
Spain
Italy
France


I know that the Bundesliga has not been as strong as usual over the last 3 or 4 years,but I would still put it way ahead of France.

The USSR was known as Russia at the time u plank

Your useless.

The USSR was known as Russia at the time u plank

At the time of what?

Bit of a farce really how a thread congratulating Rangers' progression to the Uefa Cup final turned into this so quickly. Now, I'm not really seeing any Spanish, Italian or French teams in European (Club team) finals this year, and the teams in the finals deserve to be there.

And as we've now got to the point where inaccuracies are being coupled with insults, I declare this unfortunate episode closed.