EXTORTIONATE!!!! You can pick up the same LP's in Save the Children round the corner for £2, or charity shops in town for 50 pence, so why on earth are they sticking £15/20 price tabs on vinyl????

I know vinyl is a specialist market now, but those prices suck....no wonder no one buys LP's from Record Collector. I refused to pay £15 for a copy of Pink Floyds Wish you were here when a mint condition version was priced at 75 pence in a certain charity shop on the Moor!!!! They also wanted £20 for a Tangerine Dream LP that was on sale at Oxfam just a few doors up at £1.99....and the OXFAM one was in better shape as well. Crazy.......

Surprised Record Collector dont travel up and down all the charity shops and buy up all the old LP's and then flog them for 8 times the price.....well maybe they do but they MISSED the Pink Floyd minter.

They probably will now you've suggested it goldenfleece:(

Originally posted by saxon51
They probably will now you've suggested it goldenfleece:(

Oh well, got all the LP's I need now......only missing a few rarities........

JACKS records are better priced, but they dont seem to have much stock these days...

Originally posted by goldenfleece
Oh well, got all the LP's I need now......only missing a few rarities........



Which rarities would they be? Got loads stashed away along with a ton of 45's and 78's.

Originally posted by saxon51
Which rarities would they be? Got loads stashed away along with a ton of 45's and 78's.


Looking for some relatively obscure TANGERINE DREAM imports mainly....anything?

I have the following on vinyl but I don't think they are rare or imports though.

Phaedra
Cyclone
Tangram
Logos

Has anyone sold their LP collections to Record Collector and if so, what kind of price do they pay ? I'm thinking of selling up one day.
On a happier note, I discovered yesterday that one of my albums is worth around £500 - I wonder if they would give me that much for it in Broomhill.

Originally posted by Cols
[B]I have the following on vinyl but I don't think they are rare or imports though.

Phaedra
Cyclone
Tangram
Logos

Got those, thanks anyway. There is actually a picture of me on the front cover of LOGOS, the photo on the front is actually taken at Sheffield City Hall (1982 tour date) and NOT the London Dominion Theatre where the album was actually recorded live. I am on the front row, although only back of head visible of course. Not many knew that........

Of course the thing is that they are a specialist record shop and as their name suggests, they aim for the collector's market to a certain extent, in the same way that if you go into an antiquarian bookshop you'll probably expect to pay more than if you found the same thing down at the Blonk St. car boot. I'm assuming that they're basically pricing their items with some reference to the rare records price guide that's published every year and if you look in there you can see some astronomical prices for certain things (as I presume Cols has done). I find Record Collector on the whole to be an excellent emporium and I think it's a bit harsh slagging them off just because they're pricing things according to the going rate.

The bottom line is - something's only worth what someone's prepared to pay for it. If it's too dear, don't buy it. Just be pleased you got one cheaper!

Originally posted by metalman
Of course the thing is that they are a specialist record shop and as their name suggests, they aim for the collector's market to a certain extent, in the same way that if you go into an antiquarian bookshop you'll probably expect to pay more than if you found the same thing down at the Blonk St. car boot. I'm assuming that they're basically pricing their items with some reference to the rare records price guide that's published every year and if you look in there you can see some astronomical prices for certain things (as I presume Cols has done). I find Record Collector on the whole to be an excellent emporium and I think it's a bit harsh slagging them off just because they're pricing things according to the going rate.

The bottom line is - something's only worth what someone's prepared to pay for it. If it's too dear, don't buy it. Just be pleased you got one cheaper!

Good point. And yes, I am pleased to get things cheaper. In fact just bought an ORIGINAL mono Beatles Sergeant peppar album with the YELLOW parlophone logo in its original sleeve with the cut outs intact for £1.99........wow, thanks OXFAM!!!! I think thats worth about £60 if Ebay prices are a good guide......

*is off to all the charity shops to buy all the LP's and flog em on ebay*

actually, that don't sound such a bad idea :? although, maybe someone should be nice enough to provide these charity's with a rough guide of what these are worth so they can sell them for a bit more and make more money for charity...

surely if its worth £20 they'd rather sell it for £10 than £2... thats £8 more for the charity and still cheaper than record collector?

The Charity shops in my area, which incidently is close to Broomhill, do, in fact, have a person that tours them giving them advice on the prices they should charge. The problem is, as I understand, the person has first choice of the collectable stuff so we never see anything apart from Des O'Conner and Max Bygraves lps

I've always found vinyl exhange in Manchester is best for cheap, rare music.

RC have lots of very cheap vinyl LPs at the back (1 or 2 quid each) which are worth looking through if you've got time and long arms. I've bought a few of those by bands that i could only vaguely remember half-liking from the 1970s or 1980s. Often very rewarding and usually in good condition.

But the main vinyl section you talk about always seems a bit dear to me too. I'd rather buy the CD at that sort of price. Doesn't seem to be anything in between the two price extremes (which is what for example Vinyl Exchange in Mcr and that one in Notting Hill whose name escapes me, do better - the price goes down the longer it stays in the shop).

Hey there,
Just thought being one of the accused and reading this topic, I couldn't really not reply and defend my workplace...
All our records are graded for quality and priced accordingly. Of course things like original/reissue, country or origin, and numerous other points are taken into account. I don't personally price any of the vinyl, but I know it's done scrupulously.
Oxfam do have book and record dealers that come in and advise them on price, but in my experience they stick very inflated price tags on poor condition albums, and the cheaper ones are almost always worthless reissues. Oxfam is the worst of all the charity shops. I do agree that you can pick up bargains in places like Save The Children though, if you know what you're looking for.
Someone who is "Surprised Record Collector don't travel up and down all the charity shops and buy up all the old LP's and then flog them for 8 times the price" obviously has no idea how much work needs to be done in an independant record shop! Yeah, we'll pay someone to go shopping all day and come back empty handed. There's some admiral business sense. Unfortunately, our situation is such that we rely on people to offer us records to buy.
I'd be interested to know which Tangerine Dream LP was seen with a £20 price tag - I've been there for over 5 years and somehow missed that one...
To anyone looking to sell any records, we're mainly interested in 50's and 60's ORIGINAL issues, but anything you've got, bring it in before 2:30pm and we'll gladly have a look for you! We currently have a huge quantity of stock out for just 99p each, it's a real mixed bag and there are certainly some gems in there, as well as a collector and rarities section. Anything else you're looking for, just ask, we've got mountains of stock hidden away! Also, visit us on ebay, our username is recordcollector1978.
Hope I don't come across as too defensive, I just thought that the original post in this thread was really off - and being that vinyl is now almost purely a collectors market and having to compete with digital downloads, chain stores and supermarkets, an independant record shop that actually CARES about their customers and providing a substantially quality and personal service, just doesn't need slagging off by someone who has no idea how the trade operates! LAST thing we need.
Leah xx

Anything is only 'worth' what you can get for it on the day.

People will always try to get stuff for free or knock you down to almost free. :loopy:

- Try doing a car boot! I'd rather put things in the bin than repeat that nightmare. :roll:

I don't bin it of course, they get bagged up & sent to my boy's school for jumble /fete events.

Leah

I defended you too!!!

Any chance of a discount...?

Originally posted by Leah
...... Also, visit us on ebay, our username is recordcollector1978.....


!00% positive ebay feedback on 733 sold Items :wow:
My take on this thread? Record Collector is a Sheffield 'Institution' and I for one are glad you are still going after all these years :thumbsup:
*Creep* :D

Originally posted by metalman
Leah

I defended you too!!!

Any chance of a discount...?

Sorry, yes, I did notice you defended us! It's a shame we needed defending in the first place. Thankyou.
Do say hello if you're ever in... I'm the wee girl with black & pink hair............I can always hit the discount button on the sly if no-one's looking..........*nudge* *wink*

Leah x

The records are worth roughly what record collector price em at (give or take for wear and tear and other bits and bobs), hell theyve been around a fair while, not shopped in there for about 10 years now.
Yes charity shops are cheap, i shop in em and find bargins, some i sell on for more, i found 3 beatles fanclub xmas flexi discs in a charity shop in redcar once for £1.25 each, sold em on to a shop advertising in the back of record collector magazine for £60 (theyre worth about £60 each.....in mint condition mind)
BUT charity shops ARE starting to get ridiculous now and its getting harder to find the cheaper ones now, quite a few now use the record price guide books and start charging £2 - £15 for any old crap (ie:- hiking the price up for a rarity but not taking into account the quality) or just putting a £5 / £10 price tag on beatles, queen, elvis records just cos they know the names big and people will buy em (again not taking into account quality) most are scratched to buggery tbh.
It takes the thrill of the chase out of collecting records via charity shops now :( (i mostly only buy from charity shops now) i have about 10,000 records, cds, tapes etc

I'm onto retro computer/console games/machines etc now :)

Originally posted by Cols
I have the following on vinyl but I don't think they are rare or imports though.

Phaedra
Cyclone
Tangram
Logos

Has anyone sold their LP collections to Record Collector and if so, what kind of price do they pay ? I'm thinking of selling up one day.
On a happier note, I discovered yesterday that one of my albums is worth around £500 - I wonder if they would give me that much for it in Broomhill.

Normally secondhand shops give you a third to half of what the records worth, taking into account the condition aswell.
Best to try and sell the records yorself, either egay (didnt work for me), setup your own website, advertise on forums etc and get people to buy via email (im thinking about this way once i get my collection listed onto my computer) or reply to wants lists in the backs of record collector magazine etc (i normally sell that way now and again - trouble is you can only sell what somebody asks for)

Jacks records, aaaaahhhhh used to love that shop :), spent many an hour in there, i know Ian the manager, me and a punk mate once priced his punk records up for him and got a free record :) lol

Originally posted by Leah
We currently have a huge quantity of stock out for just 99p each, it's a real mixed bag and there are certainly some gems in there, as well as a collector and rarities section. Anything else you're looking for, just ask, we've got mountains of stock hidden away!
Leah xx

you dont still have a copy of The Blaggers - on yer toes (white label lp) ?? i bought it once from record collector for about 99p along with white labels of oi polloi lps and stuff.....i sold it when i moved up here with all my other punk records :( wish i hadent now, i saw the band in sheffield not long after i moved up here, and was chatting to Matty (the singer)R.I.P and he couldnt believe anybody actually had a copy its that rare, even the band members didnt, he wasnt even sure it got released properly.

im just posting this message as it seems relevant to the converstation, Im a media student in sheffield and as part of my final year im making a documentary about Vinyl. I want to see how vinyl is surviving in todays age, and a segment in my documentary is about record collectors, I myself buy vinyl which gave me the idea for this. If anyone would have any interest in helping me out it would be much appreciated, im looking for people to interview, either in person or by phone or to give me any information on the industry.

If youve read this far then thanks for ur time.

eerm im a vinyl junkie, been buying records since 1981 i think, bought a fair bit in my time, still have tons :)

i dont live in sheff anymore tho, if you wanna interview me via pm or email off here tho im up for it.........i think :P

thanks for ur reply, so how many records do u think u own, and of what styles? and if ur interested in helping contact me at b1shbosh@hotmail.com, cheers

how many do i own? hmmmmmmmmmmm

about
1000 7"s
1000 12"s and lps

just a wild guess, ive never actually counted em :)
I have wrote in a notebook with details on price, cat no, date of release etc etc, im trying to enter em into an excel sheet so i can search and print em easier........its long and slow work tho :(

genres...........every?

i have em in genre....then in alphabetical
genre sections include

general Rock/metal (including thrash,NWOBHM)
Punk/new wave (including sections for clash and related/skids and related)
Dance (including sections for trance, compilations, acid jazz)
Hip hop/rap/rnb
folk
funk/blues/soul (including sections for motown/TK records)
Indie
60s/70s
80s
Jazz
Soundtracks
Misc stuff including spoken word - jrr tolkien, stanly unwin etc / those quadraphonic / stereo sampler records etc
Comedy
various - that dont fit in any other genres
a few classical - mainly wagner
Psychobilly
goth
prog rock / kraut rock etc
Industrial / grunge / noisey stuff like nirvana, big black, mudhoney etc

might be something ive missed :P

one thing I've never understood about record collector is that an album is often cheaper new than it is second hand. Always baffled me. Some very good new prices and a few very hairy used prices. I stick to the net nowardays (amazon marketplace usually) as they tend to be a lot cheaper.

My days of lots of free cash are beind me :rolleyes:

It is a students dream of a store though :clap:

Originally posted by robbie
one thing I've never understood about record collector is that an album is often cheaper new than it is second hand. Always baffled me. Some very good new prices and a few very hairy used prices. I stick to the net nowardays (amazon marketplace usually) as they tend to be a lot cheaper.

My days of lots of free cash are beind me :rolleyes:

It is a students dream of a store though :clap:

"normally" new records are reissues and so are less collectable.
Second hand records (normally the ones with higher prices) are original issues and/or second issues etc which have aquired a going rate depending on how collectable they are / how often they are sold and are sought after.
Original issues may have inner sleeves that re issues dont, or gatefold sleeves, or inserts etc etc

sometimes with beatles lps people collect em cos the catalogue number is slightly dofferent, and the smallest changes possible between issues lol

Originally posted by melthebell
The records are worth roughly what record collector price em at (give or take for wear and tear and other bits and bobs), hell theyve been around a fair while, not shopped in there for about 10 years now.
Yes charity shops are cheap, i shop in em and find bargins, some i sell on for more, i found 3 beatles fanclub xmas flexi discs in a charity shop in redcar once for £1.25 each, sold em on to a shop advertising in the back of record collector magazine for £60 (theyre worth about £60 each.....in mint condition mind)
BUT charity shops ARE starting to get ridiculous now and its getting harder to find the cheaper ones now, quite a few now use the record price guide books and start charging £2 - £15 for any old crap (ie:- hiking the price up for a rarity but not taking into account the quality) or just putting a £5 / £10 price tag on beatles, queen, elvis records just cos they know the names big and people will buy em (again not taking into account quality) most are scratched to buggery tbh.
It takes the thrill of the chase out of collecting records via charity shops now :( (i mostly only buy from charity shops now) i have about 10,000 records, cds, tapes etc


Absoloutely, and very well put. Of course there are bargains to be found in charity shops, that's the fun of them! But when they start trying to target collectors... they're usually pretty off the mark.
And in reply to a subsequent comment, we're not going to pay full whack for an album from someone's looking to sell, you have to remember we are not a public service, we need to have a vaguely decent profit margin and pay everyones' wages! :)

you dont still have a copy of The Blaggers - on yer toes (white label lp) ?? i bought it once from record collector for about 99p along with white labels of oi polloi lps and stuff.....i sold it when i moved up here with all my other punk records wish i hadent now, i saw the band in sheffield not long after i moved up here, and was chatting to Matty (the singer)R.I.P and he couldnt believe anybody actually had a copy its that rare, even the band members didnt, he wasnt even sure it got released properly.

It's interesting that you say that actually! Particularly in regard to our eBay sales, we get a lot of emails from original band members (e.g. MC5, wow!) either buying their own releases because they never thought to get one at the time, or asking hoe come we have copies of such a limited release!! The answer to the latter question is we've been buying (and hoarding) vinyl releases since the 70's and have them stored in a MASSIVE lock-up unit. The truth is, we're not even entirely sure ourselves what's in there, it's exciting looking through it all and picking out gems to put on eBay! A good example of this is the first Def Leppard EP, of which we had more copies than anyone else. Just this saturday we sold one of the last (if not THE last) 'normal' copies of it, and we'll soon be putting a fully signed MINT copy on eBay. Signed by the drummer's lost arm as well ;)
If you're looking for something in particular, your best bet is to ring up - 266 8493 - any day before about 3pm. Our vinyl manager, Richard, has a record of the entire stock in his brain!

im just posting this message as it seems relevant to the converstation, Im a media student in sheffield and as part of my final year im making a documentary about Vinyl. I want to see how vinyl is surviving in todays age, and a segment in my documentary is about record collectors, I myself buy vinyl which gave me the idea for this. If anyone would have any interest in helping me out it would be much appreciated, im looking for people to interview, either in person or by phone or to give me any information on the industry.

Come in on a saturday, that's when all our staff are in, we'd be happy to help in any way we can!

one thing I've never understood about record collector is that an album is often cheaper new than it is second hand. Always baffled me. Some very good new prices and a few very hairy used prices.[/QUOTE ]

No, never. We are REALLY on top of this. If it is exactly the same in all ways, an item will always be cheaper secondhand. Something not a lot of people know is, a great deal of our 'seondhand' stock is infact completely NEW, we've just put it out at a secondhand price as a favour to our customers and because we pride ourselves on the consistency and quality of our secondhand stock. Always feel free to ask to check the quality of secondhand CDs and vinyl.... it should be excellent, and if not, priced accordingly.

[QUOTE]"normally" new records are reissues and so are less collectable.
Second hand records (normally the ones with higher prices) are original issues and/or second issues etc which have aquired a going rate depending on how collectable they are / how often they are sold and are sought after.
Original issues may have inner sleeves that re issues dont, or gatefold sleeves, or inserts etc etc

sometimes with beatles lps people collect em cos the catalogue number is slightly dofferent, and the smallest changes possible between issues lol

So true, so true! And this does not just apply to Beatles LPs. It's a curious juxtaposition - on one hand, I argue that vinyl LPs are now predominately a collectors' market, then on the other hand I have to defend the pricing of individual issues, inserts, etc ! Oh well..... such is the business.

Just love the music, man, dig it....

Leah xx

thanks Leah ill try and come in one saturday, do you think it would be possible to film some shots in the shop? taa

Originally posted by sheffieldism
thanks Leah ill try and come in one saturday, do you think it would be possible to film some shots in the shop? taa

Yeah, can't see that'd be a problem. Have a word with either Jeff or Andy :)

Leah xx

Originally posted by Leah
Signed by the drummer's lost arm as well ;)


LOL, i really hope it was when he had it still connected to his body

"actually, that don't sound such a bad idea although, maybe someone should be nice enough to provide these charity's with a rough guide of what these are worth so they can sell them for a bit more and make more money for charity..."

i used to work in an oxfam in muswell hill in london and we had a book with record prices in, it was pretty up to date and accurate actually. Problem was that I would buy all the records as soon as they went on sale in the shop :)

Originally posted by HarrietStar
[B]"actually, that don't sound such a bad idea although, maybe someone should be nice enough to provide these charity's with a rough guide of what these are worth so they can sell them for a bit more and make more money for charity..."



they get em for nowt so anythings a mark up, tbh as ive said before, it takes all the fun out of the chase and you may aswell buy from a proper secondhand record shop.....im sure they actually sell more without using over inflated prices, just shopping in charity shops for records etc youd be surprised at how many people moan at the prices records are these days, people really dont like it.

If somethings going for a pound or under ill buy stuff ive never heard of just to try something new / slightly rougher condition, £1.50 and more im way more selective and buy less.

Any ideas about what I could do with an old record collection. Got a couple of boxes, mainly punk, ie, crass, conflict,subhumans, and Bowie stuff. Does anyone know if Throbbing Gristle and Captain Beefheart is collectable now ?:wave:

I know vinyl is a specialist market now, but those prices suck....no wonder no one buys LP's from Record Collector. I refused to pay £15 for a copy of Pink Floyds Wish you were here when a mint condition version was priced at 75 pence in a certain charity shop on the Moor!!!! They also wanted £20 for a Tangerine Dream LP that was on sale at Oxfam just a few doors up at £1.99....and the OXFAM one was in better shape as well. Crazy.......

Well if you've got the time to tour every charity shop in the hope of picking up a lost gem good luck to you. If I wanted a vinyl LP I'd go to Record Collector - if I didn't like the price I'd leave it. But they're a record shop for goodness sake, they're going to price things (as some people have already said) according to the going rates which you can find in numerous magazines (such as Record Collector - no relation!) and websites.

And for a shop that no-one buys from, there's always plenty of people in there.....

*thinks* need to have a rummage in the attic. tons of 60s, 70s, 80s LP's up there in mint order. Maybe Im sitting on (under!) a Gem!

Last Tuesday, Barnsley Mencap were asking £4.00 for a Donny Osmond 45 (Puppy Love). I bought a vinyl album 'Connie Francis Sings Country' for ten pence at the charity shop in Cudworth. Not a single scratch on it or a mark on the cover.

Last Tuesday, Barnsley Mencap were asking £4.00 for a Donny Osmond 45 (Puppy Love). I bought a vinyl album 'Connie Francis Sings Country' for ten pence at the charity shop in Cudworth. Not a single scratch on it or a mark on the cover.

WHY???????

Can I just defend Record Collector too.....spent ages looking for a CD...ordered it more than once at Fopp. Eventually got it through Ebay from RC and it was less than four quid. One gripe....still waiting for my positive feedback!!!!!!

As we are talking vinyl here has anyone got TONTO'S EXPANDING HEADBAND...either ZERO TIME or RIDES AGAIN (which includes the tracks on Zero Time). I had it, lost it (actually the guy who had it died) and cannot find a replacement.....am not necessarily wanting the vinyl.....if anyone has a copy I am sure we can come to some arrangement. :D

That's one of those LPs which was a king of the cut-out bins 20 years ago - you couldn't give copies away. These days a mint copy apparently fetches over twenty quid.

WHY???????

No, that was Anthony Newley's recording, not Connie Francis.

Does anyone know of people who would be interested in buying vinyl, trying to get rid of mine, mainly rock. Record collector only want obscure stuff so not interested in what I have to sell

Does anyone know of people who would be interested in buying vinyl, trying to get rid of mine, mainly rock. Record collector only want obscure stuff so not interested in what I have to sell

Let me know what you've you got as I could be interested.