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richardh
29-04-2008, 19:44
Hello
I am trying to sort out a website for my business and someone to host it, I am hoping it can be sorted fairly quickly. I dont know what is required so any help would be appreciated :help:

I am willing to pay for this but not a fortune

adaline
29-04-2008, 20:08
What kind of website are you looking for?

Carl_Malibu
29-04-2008, 20:20
Well hosting can come very cheap...check out www.hostgator.com , great customer support, and when you buy, if you type in coupon "b2evo" first months hosting is 1cent!

As for site design, if you have a little knowledge yourself just google "CSS templates" and you can find templates for free under "Creative Commons License" which look great, as long as you quote the designer in the site you can have it for free.

check out http://clan.qpop.co.uk which is hosted by hostgator and uses a free css template.

If you want more complicated things (an e-commerce site for example) costs get higher, but as for just basic hosting, with above site I'm paying ~£5 / month and the design was free!

hitchhiker
29-04-2008, 21:10
If I were you I wouldn't cut corners with the hosting. We've just built a big site for a magazine publisher who insisted on hosting the site with a hosting plan they had already bought. The site now downloads very, very slowly due to the fact that their hosting is 10 times slower than the hosting we would have given them for £25 more.

monomiel
29-04-2008, 22:34
if you want a basic website and you don't care about standards, performance, scalability, etc . of course you can download a free template and purchase a cheap hosting service. But if you are thinking in building a good web site to support you business, you should have to consider to pay a professional.:) . however it depends of the type of website and business.:cool:

Carl_Malibu
29-04-2008, 22:55
Standards? performance? Come on, the website I posted is CSS and XHTML certified, by W3C, you can't really get better standards than that. It is simple, properly laid out, easy to use, and loads fine. Hostgator is one of the biggest website hosts in the world, and has brilliant customer support. I know a lot of people make a living out of duping people who don't understand this kind of thing, I'm just trying to point out to people how easy/cheap it is to run your own site.

monomiel
29-04-2008, 23:16
Standards? performance? Come on, the website I posted is CSS and XHTML certified, by W3C, you can't really get better standards than that. It is simple, properly laid out, easy to use, and loads fine. Hostgator is one of the biggest website hosts in the world, and has brilliant customer support. I know a lot of people make a living out of duping people who don't understand this kind of thing, I'm just trying to point out to people how easy/cheap it is to run your own site.

Come on what? I respect your opinion and you have to respect mine. if you want to discuss about software, engineering, methodologies or standards, send me a PM. We all are trying to help the mate who posted a question. Simple. if you think that validating a site or having a certificate is enough .. thats your problem.

Carl_Malibu
29-04-2008, 23:20
Go on, tell me what more we need? You talk about standards, but standards are set out by W3C, we all know that. I understand you may make a living out of this, but most low level computer jobs (building, web design, support, etc.) rely on some level of ignorance from the end user. Most people in the know realise this, fewer will accept it publicly. As for methodology, I would say a sound, cross-browser site, CSS and HTML/XHTML certified is suitable, as for engineering, all my Mark Up language I do in notepad++, does that make it better or worse?

Software? Most open-source based site software is awful and is full of holes (see Milw0rm if you're sceptical of that statement. )

Validation is very important, PM me your portfolio and we'll see where you stand :)

as for the Original Poster, drop me a PM if you want some (FREE) advice on site setup/hosting.

monomiel
30-04-2008, 05:18
Go on, tell me what more we need? You talk about standards, but standards are set out by W3C, we all know that. I understand you may make a living out of this, but most low level computer jobs (building, web design, support, etc.) rely on some level of ignorance from the end user. Most people in the know realise this, fewer will accept it publicly. As for methodology, I would say a sound, cross-browser site, CSS and HTML/XHTML certified is suitable, as for engineering, all my Mark Up language I do in notepad++, does that make it better or worse?

Software? Most open-source based site software is awful and is full of holes (see Milw0rm if you're sceptical of that statement. )

Validation is very important, PM me your portfolio and we'll see where you stand :)

as for the Original Poster, drop me a PM if you want some (FREE) advice on site setup/hosting.

You said you understood, but you didn't. If you think that every engineer has a portfolio you are wrong again or you don't know about copyright. We could talk about CV's but again this is not important for this specific topic.

All i said is my opinion and also i said it depends of the type of website. I didn't say validation or certification are not important ( you didn't understand again ). "as for the Original Poster, drop me a PM if you want some (FREE) advice on site setup/hosting" :loopy: really sad.

Anyway, as i said , if you want to discuss send me a PM or open another thread.

Ricky-lee.b
30-04-2008, 13:52
www[dot]streamline[dot]net

Do some nice hosting packages and at a nice price per year insted of paying per month.

adaline
30-04-2008, 14:11
Using the standards as a selling point is rather weak, you can have the same site done in css and a copy in tables, 99% of the time the customer would not have a clue as to the difference nor give a damn as long as it does the job.

DaFoot
30-04-2008, 14:16
Using the standards as a selling point is rather weak...

I'm not going to wade in with my opinions on good vs bad ways of doings but more a question...(not aimed specifically @ adaline but these threads in general)


Why do so many requests for help building a website descend into bitching at one anothers methods rather than simply contacting the OP?

The sniping at each other will do you no favours when trying to secure work for yourself. :) That's my bit of advice on best web-dev technique... land the work ;)

adaline
30-04-2008, 15:26
Im not sure why that happends, just trying to move things forward in the right direction i guess, the old bull filter.

monomiel
30-04-2008, 15:39
Just giving my opinion and trying to help:). you can review my previous posts.:cool: