Watch out, the Council is going undercover to catch litter louts spoiling the city centre and £50 fines will be handed out to anyone caught in the act!

Some of the Council’s city centre ambassadors will be patrolling in plain clothes as part of the crack down on anti-social behaviour. Dozens of fines have been handed out since the on the spot fines of £50 were introduced for anyone spotted littering the footpaths and roads. But now the Council is getting tough to tackle the problem.

Councillor Harry Harpham, the Council’s Cabinet member for Streetscene commented: “We take a very strong line on any form of anti-social behaviour and littering the streets is just one example of this. If people are too irresponsible to place their rubbish in a bin, then they must be ready to accept the consequences. The message to everyone living or working in our city is to ‘bin it’.”

There should be more bins. To put litter in bins people have to go out of their way, which people aren't prepared to do.

I think I've said this before, but on my walk into uni, I pass about 2 bins which are both near the football ground. I don't like dropping litter but when there's no bins along my route sometimes the only alternative is to keep the rubbish until I arrive at uni 15mins later. This is incredibly annoying and I could forgive people who aren't prepared to do this.

I think the council are absolutely right. If there isn't a bin near by put your rubbish in your pocket or bag until you get somewhere where you can dispose of it properly. Everyone wants to live in a nice clean city so it is up to us to make sure it is that way.

If I ever see anyone dropping litter I pick it up and give it them back!! I dread to think what these people's homes are like. It's just a simple matter of respecting the environment we live in.

Rant over!

Taxi!.......

Originally posted by c_datexpress
I think the council are absolutely right. If there isn't a bin near by put your rubbish in your pocket or bag until you get somewhere where you can dispose of it properly. Everyone wants to live in a nice clean city so it is up to us to make sure it is that way.

If I ever see anyone dropping litter I pick it up and give it them back!! I dread to think what these people's homes are like. It's just a simple matter of respecting the environment we live in.

Rant over!

Taxi!.......
I agree that dropping litter is wrong, but if there were more bins around then there wouldn't be a problem.

Originally posted by Sidla
I don't like dropping litter but when there's no bins along my route sometimes the only alternative is to keep the rubbish until I arrive at uni 15mins later. This is incredibly annoying and I could forgive people who aren't prepared to do this.

That is one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read on this forum. No wonder the streets are a mess.

Sorry but that makes my chuffin' blood boil.

There is a shocking lack of bins in sheffield, maybe the council should spend money on some of those instead of employing whats akin to stealth tax busybodies on the street :/

Originally posted by RPG
There is a shocking lack of bins in sheffield, maybe the council should spend money on some of those instead of employing whats akin to stealth tax busybodies on the street :/

It may be down to terrorism, as you never see a bin in a London underground station or any mainline station in London

Originally posted by Sidla
the only alternative is to keep the rubbish until I arrive at uni 15mins later. This is incredibly annoying and I could forgive people who aren't prepared to do this. :o Quite often when I put my coat on in the morning I find rubbish from the previous day that I've brought home. Unless you are looking to dispose of a large amount of rubbish, I don't see the problem with pocketing the rubbish until you get home/find a bin.

Originally posted by mikey
It may be down to terrorism, as you never see a bin in a London underground station or any mainline station in London Don't give them excuses Mikey. It's more likely down to cost and reward. Putting bins in costs the council money, where as fining people makes them money. In central London there are plenty of bins on every street corner, so unless Sheffield is for some reason a major target, I can't imagine why we don't have them. Unless of course the council is short changing us... scandalous! :P

Only £50?

This is an nice idea non-stick chewing gum (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2884537.stm)

One of the best litter solution were the new can of pop introduced more than 10 years ago. Can you remember when cans were open with a ring that was pulled toward you and it detached from the can itself?

Bins are not the whole answer. I work in the City Centre and not a day goes by without me seeing litter dropped within feet of bins or even worse put on top of empty bins!

Fine em so they can't afford to buy anything to drop!

andyb

Ive just come back from germany,you get fine for dropping litter there,its 10euros for a fag end,you dont do it because you dont know whos watching,knowing this makes you think twice,8)

Originally posted by Sidla
There should be more bins. To put litter in bins people have to go out of their way, which people aren't prepared to do.

I think I've said this before, but on my walk into uni, I pass about 2 bins which are both near the football ground. I don't like dropping litter but when there's no bins along my route sometimes the only alternative is to keep the rubbish until I arrive at uni 15mins later. This is incredibly annoying and I could forgive people who aren't prepared to do this.


I couldn't. People that drop litter are idle, selfish and inconsiderate. Litter can be kept in a pocket until one passes a bin. That tiny amount of extra effort goes a long, long way, especially if everyone was brought up well enough to not drop litter and show some consideration.

You know what, I quite fancy signing up to be one of these Litter Cops.

And anyone who dropped their Twix wrapper then claimed it was "because there are no bins nearby" would get their litter shoved somewhere dark and intimate. (No, I'm not volunteering for that duty).

If someone gets stopped and fined for littering how does it work,

Do you have to cough up £50.00 there and then, if they issue with a fixed notice how do they know who you are, cos it's not like a driving fine where they can trace the number plate.

I am not saying I would but what is to stop anyone giving a false name and address?

I do try to put my rubbish in a bin but most of time there are no bins to be seen, a friend tells me its becouse u got some presents from the Irish comrades, they might wonna invent a present proof bin with all that revenue they making from spot fines (and the damn obscene tax! :mad: ) so there is someplace to put rubbish other the street itself!

What is to stop you giving a false name? Can't you "claim" to not have any id, but your real name is Robert Dylan or something adn you'll pay em when you get that cash you're waiting on at the weekend?

Just wondering..........

Originally posted by Saifa
What is to stop you giving a false name? Can't you "claim" to not have any id, but your real name is Robert Dylan or something adn you'll pay em when you get that cash you're waiting on at the weekend?

Just wondering..........

Probably take a photo if you have no I.D, Dont know just guessing.

Originally posted by Geoff
Some of the Council’s city centre ambassadors will be patrolling in plain clothes as part of the crack down on anti-social behaviour.

Not wishing to sound like the voice of disobedience but have these chaps got any legal right to attempt to detain an individual? What's to stop a person saying "I don't recognise your authority in this matter" and walking off?

Originally posted by viking
Probably take a photo if you have no I.D, Dont know just guessing.


And if you give a false ID the council put your photo on the 'name and shame' gallery on Fargate offering £50 reward for your name and address. Then when they catch up with you they fine you £50 for the litter offence and £150 for giving a false ID.....and if you don't cough up you get banged up for six months and stiil have to pay all the fines plus legal fees. :clap:


So.....just don't drop litter. ;)

Originally posted by adaline
I do try to put my rubbish in a bin

I saw you throw a fag end in the street yesterday. You can either send me £30 or I shall summon a City Ambassador to get you fined! :D

Originally posted by Swan_Vesta
Not wishing to sound like the voice of disobedience but have these chaps got any legal right to attempt to detain an individual? What's to stop a person saying "I don't recognise your authority in this matter" and walking off?
I wondered about this on the £35 bus inspectors malarkey.
Does anyone know the legality of all this.How about on the spot fines for queue jumpers,missed hospital appointments,looking ugly,jay walking etc,etc.

Originally posted by Swan_Vesta
Not wishing to sound like the voice of disobedience but have these chaps got any legal right to attempt to detain an individual? What's to stop a person saying "I don't recognise your authority in this matter" and walking off?

Under UK law, you do not have to give your name and address to anybody unless you are under police arrest and have been read your legal rights.

Originally posted by EyeSpy
Under UK law, you do not have to give your name and address to anybody unless you are under police arrest and have been read your legal rights.
Thanks for that,but I quite fancied being a you(not you personally) look ugly inspector,nice little earner.

Originally posted by Sidla
There should be more bins. To put litter in bins people have to go out of their way, which people aren't prepared to do.

I think I've said this before, but on my walk into uni, I pass about 2 bins which are both near the football ground. I don't like dropping litter but when there's no bins along my route sometimes the only alternative is to keep the rubbish until I arrive at uni 15mins later. This is incredibly annoying and I could forgive people who aren't prepared to do this.

The lack of bins of course is relevant, however in this situation I still dont throw it on the floor. There lies one of the problems people are just bloody lazy and have to have an excuse for their actions (full bin). I hold on to rubbish until I find a bin and usually there is one not far away. I wish they would be even more strict with litter bugs but if you go to town you will without doubt always see at least one litter bug. Also watch people kick cans etc with an empty bin 2 yards away but of course its not your can so why should you put it in the bin.

Originally posted by matsalleh
I wondered about this on the £35 bus inspectors malarkey.
Does anyone know the legality of all this.How about on the spot fines for queue jumpers,missed hospital appointments,looking ugly,jay walking etc,etc.

I think the £35 fine from bus inspectors will be interesting.

In the Capital the situation is slightly different a hit squad of inspectors will board a bus with the Police in tow to check tickets etc in Sheffield this will prove to be a risky business unless the Police board as well.

Originally posted by d71146
I think the £35 fine from bus inspectors will be interesting.



Off topic, but the £35 is not a fine. It is the standard fare - i.e. the fare payabe by anyone who chose not to pay the "discounted" fare available from the driver.

I would expect the police to deal with the matter in the same way as they would deal with someone who won't pay a taxi fare or reastraunt bill.

Why do we have to find an excuse for what is just lazyness? this 'rubbish' is hardly going to weigh us down for a few minutes until we find a bin.
we can't just park anywhere because the council don't provide enough car parks, ok we pay for the bins and should expect them to be present where we can find them but a bit of self discipline goes a long way, we can all do our bit.

You only have to look at Devonshire Green, or should I say Chavonshire Green to realise what a litter problem we have in this city. Despite numerous bins and a council park warden who spends half his week on the Green people treat it like a tip and it looks a mess half the time - people seem to throw litter anywhere.

meh, luckily i dont live in sheffield,
whenever i do go to sheffield i litter it as much as i can,
why? because i hate the council.

I do hope you are kidding.

Originally posted by caprice
I do hope you are kidding.
nope
the council are a bunch of advantage taking *****.

Originally posted by khizman
nope
the council are a bunch of advantage taking *****.

And what do you base this judgement on? I must admit, the council are not on my Christmas card list, but I wouldnt deliberately drop litter as the council don't suffer, its the public who do, the ones who have to wade through it.

You don't think the council officials will care about your discarded crisp packet? They're not walking on Sheffield's streets, they're driving on our roads and doing the exact thing that they tell us we shouldn't do (drive).... They dont want their shoes dirtying and neither do I.

Your protest goes un noticed by the council and is nothing other than dirty and inconsiderate. Hopefully some likeminded person will return the favour in whatever area you live in.

Originally posted by caprice
And what do you base this judgement on? I must admit, the council are not on my Christmas card list, but I wouldnt deliberately drop litter as the council don't suffer, its the public who do, the ones who have to wade through it.

You don't think the council officials will care about your discarded crisp packet? They're not walking on Sheffield's streets, they're driving on our roads and doing the exact thing that they tell us we shouldn't do (drive).... They dont want their shoes dirtying and neither do I.

Your protest goes un noticed by the council and is nothing other than dirty and inconsiderate. Hopefully some likeminded person will return the favour in whatever area you live in.
yeah well,
this is what happened,
My mum had an accident and she hit a signpost (one of those ones that have an arrow pointing right) it wasnt a hard hit, maybe 20mph, the car was battered, and the post was at an angle of maybe 10 degrees. The post itself was undamaged though. All they had to do to repair it was push it back up and fill in the hole on the ground, and thats all they did.

The insurance company didnt pay out (lets not go into details on that).

Guess how much they charged us for the repair?

Whilst I have every sympathy for what happened to your Mother and can 100% understand your vendetta against the council, deliberately littering the pavement will not change anything. If anything, it'll only cost you more in the long run if these council ambassadors catch up with you.

Originally posted by caprice
Whilst I have every sympathy for what happened to your Mother and can 100% understand your vendetta against the council, deliberately littering the pavement will not change anything. If anything, it'll only cost you more in the long run if these council ambassadors catch up with you.
heh it satisfies me personally :D
they charged us 800 quid

Originally posted by khizman
they charged us 800 quid

:wow:


They could've had a new sign made for less than that!

That's just scary!



BTW. (if you don't mind me asking) Did the council use litigation (ie solicitors) to retrieve the money at all?