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bigflesh
26-03-2005, 15:59
All, given that we are in the majority aggrieved by the state of Sheffields roads.... main arterial routes and off the beaten track B Roads and housing estate roads, I thought it a great idea to begin a thread on REPORT A HOLE!!! Hopefully the highways department of the City Council will observe and be able to prioritise fixes to these suspension destroyers! SO, go ahead, report your POTHOLE!!!

Details required:
1. ROAD NAME
2. LOCATION OF POTHOLE ON ROAD
3. DESCRIPTION OF THE CRATER
4. AGE OF THE HOLE

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 16:03
I just had an almighty brainwave!

Lets collectivley REPORT OUR HOLES, hence "grow" the responses to this thread.......... We can then approach the City Council and Sheffield Star with our findings!

This can then be used to catalogue our concerns, highlight the exact problematic areas and drive conclusive action (hopefully!) and promote the board even more.

Finally, my apologies "if" this is a repeat of previous attempts on this forum.

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 16:04
Details required:

1. ROAD NAME

2. LOCATION OF POTHOLE ON ROAD

3. DESCRIPTION OF THE CRATER

4. AGE OF THE HOLE

saxon51
26-03-2005, 16:04
Brilliant idea bigflesh:thumbsup:

1. Herries Road

2. A few metres after Longley Lane heading towards Fir Vale.

3. Service cover about 2 inches lower than road surface.

4. Many, many years.

:mad:

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 16:05
Saxon starts the ball rolling!!! Cheers Sax.

Biggy

HotPhil
26-03-2005, 16:05
Or, if you want it to be fixed you can report it to Street Force on the council's website....

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 16:09
1. Sheffield Parkway

2. about 500 yards from Catcliffe junction, city bound, outside lane. YES - the "welcome to sheffield bumps".

3. various bumps in carriageway, feels like subsidence and really pulls on the steering wheel, approx 8 jarring shocks at 70mph... can't be safe.

4. 5 Years approx, often wondered why its never been sorted.

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 16:11
hotphil,

Good one, but we need the people of our city to see openly advertise the fact we have a problem.

Some would call it a public flogging.

Rich
26-03-2005, 16:15
Malin Bridge, at Junction between bottom of Stannington Road/Dykes Hall Lane.

Been there since a week last Friday ago.

tosh13
26-03-2005, 16:30
4 yrs ago I was up Hoyland shopping with my missus & I was in my wheelchair & we had just come out of Kwik Save & we were chatting the next minute I was sent flying out of my wheelchair & I tore all the muscle away from my left shoulder & did damage to my nerves.All this was caused by a large pothole outside a pub,where cars were parking & they should not have been parking in the area because you have to drive onto a path to get to the pub forecourt.Needless to say I cannot wheel myself anymore due to the damage & it will never get better.But I sued the arse off the pub & they soon mended there potholes,so for a little bit of tarmac,it cost them plenty of money,but mostly it cost me my independence.With my money I bought an electric scooter & I can get out & about now.The moral of my story is fill in your damn potholes & you won't ruin people's live's & cost a lot in compensation.

cgksheff
26-03-2005, 16:41
I know that there are a load of variables etc. but can anyone give us a rough global estimate of what it costs to resurface a minor road in Sheffield (not patching).
(£2,000 per 10 metres length?)

The council talk of looking for £15 million per year and I just wondered how far this would go.

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 16:43
tosh,

Thank you for joining the debate...... all the more reason to publicly name and shame Sheffields problem pothole area's.... SAFETY FIRST... for pedestrians, car owners, motorcyclists, cyclists and public transport users.

Remember peeps... report you holes...

1. Road Name
2. Location of Offending Hole
3. Crater Description
4. Age (approximate)

tosh13
26-03-2005, 16:51
Originally posted by bigflesh
tosh,

Thank you for joining the debate...... all the more reason to publicly name and shame Sheffields problem pothole area's.... SAFETY FIRST... for pedestrians, car owners, motorcyclists, cyclists and public transport users.

Remember peeps... report you holes...

1. Road Name
2. Location of Offending Hole
3. Crater Description
4. Age (approximate)
Totally agree BF a lot of people take advantage of a fall to con money,but genuine people can have there lives ruined,although I am disabled,I was devistated when the consultant told me that my shoulder will get no better,this stopped me going out on my own & my only thought was to make sure this would not happen again at the pub in Hoyland.The landlord expected me to go up to see him the following week,I was in agony & he said I should have watching where I was going,I was gobsmacked to say the least,so I sued him,he soon filled in the potholes but not before my 2 son's went to the pub at 6 in the morning to take pictures the day after the holes were filled in.But I got him in the end.

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 16:53
Thanks Tosh. May this thread be a gentle reminder to the City Council.

Keep those holes coming...

1. Road Name
2. Location of Offending Hole
3. Crater Description
4. Age (approximate)

dinp
26-03-2005, 18:24
Shoreham Street

Between the BBC Sheffield and Red Tape Studios (?) Building on the left hand lane.

A small drain, some distance below the rest of the road surface

Been there at least 6 months....

Avalon
26-03-2005, 18:47
1. Road Name - Helliwell Lane, Hillcrest Road, Cambridge Road, Wood Royd Road, Deepcar.
2. Location of Offending Hole - All the way up Helliwell Lane, Junction of Carr Road and Hillcrest Road, Bottom part of Wood Royd Road (after the bus route ends)
3. Crater Description - Pot holes of all shapes and sizes - someone came round about 2 months ago and spray painted them all yellow!
4. Age (approximate) - Ever since i can remember!

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 19:01
Thanks gang.

Keep your holes coming:

1 road name
2 location of hole
3 description of crater
4 age

fuzzy
26-03-2005, 19:18
Mancherer Rd S10

From Shore Lane towards Crosspool

Not so much a pot hole but big dips where drains/ manholes are a lot lower than the road where it has been resurfaced.

A month or so but they seem to be gettin worse.


We always say that you can tell when you get back into Sheffield by how bad the roads are. Wakes me up everytime we get past the sign for Sheffield coming back in on the A57.(im not driving of course)

bigflesh
26-03-2005, 21:28
Thanks Fuzzy,

Come on GANG, get your crater reporting underway here............ looks like we could be in for some serious road remaking......but its up 2 you!

Name that crater - NAME THAT ROAD!!!!!!!!!!!

sicubitt
27-03-2005, 00:22
plot hole: In Casablanca everyone wants exit visas. These never existed.

claycraft
27-03-2005, 00:30
Originally posted by bigflesh
Thanks gang.

Keep your holes coming:

1 road name
2 location of hole
3 description of crater
4 age

1 take-your-pick lane
2 anywhere in Sheff/S. Yorks
3 unacceptably vast
4 probably sometime B.C.

On a serious note, I left the Parkway(heading into town) on the Mosbrough slip road/roundabout wishing to join the Prince of Wales road.
Now although not a pot hole but just as dangerous, the road was surfaced with what only can be described as very unhappy tarmac. It had seriously got the hump :roll:
Bad enough when you are in a car but as I was on my motorbike the surface almost had me off as, at its worse, I had the bike tipped over negotiating the island.
No doubt I shall enter the local post office with a smile as ever, safe in the knowledge that the 6% of the £££'s I fork out in taxing all my vehicles (of which I can only use one at a time! Another subject for disscussion) will again be well spent:rant:

dinp
27-03-2005, 02:00
The area around Rufford Rise, Beighton

All over the place

Lumpy as F***

Been like it for years

mr.blaze
27-03-2005, 04:09
1. Long road outside my house
2. In the road
3. It's kind of cratery
4. When asked age no reply was given

:heyhey:
Sorry couldn't resist.

Sony
27-03-2005, 07:53
Fulwood road, Stumperlowe Hall road, hangingwater road, brooklands avenue, just everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lemoni
27-03-2005, 09:46
And while we're at it, how about the filthy gutters? I've never lived anywhere before with so much composting debris lying around. Is there a local byelaw requiring householders to keep the pavement outside their house swept? Sheffield could do with one. We have such leafy streets, what a shame the pavements are only tarmac. Were any of them ever York stone, such as outside those glorious houses in Broomhill? What does this council do with our money?

retep
27-03-2005, 19:20
Wordsworth Avenue potholes of varying sizes road surface crumbling from one end to the other,
New traffic plan for Sheffield regeneration find your way in braile.

spinny
27-03-2005, 19:31
they are loads of potholes arround shirecliffe area... too many roads to type but it getting worst.

think it should be called "name a road that not got a pothole" has every road i been on seem to have got them.

jan2002
27-03-2005, 19:41
Effingham Road
from the dancing dollar area to after Bacon Lane
More pothole than good road surface
Been there years and years

And while we are reporting roads, could someone from street force please do something about the flooding on the same road, on the bend ? It is always flooded the width of the roadwhen it rains heavy

lemoni
27-03-2005, 20:20
retep posted a reply and I accidentally deleted the email link. Could retep try again. Sorry!

Lostrider
27-03-2005, 20:54
I would just like to say that I reported a raised water inspection cover outside my Mothers house. I also reported to Streetforce a Street Light not working outside my Mothers house.
Both were fixed (not immediately) but fixed all the same.

I suppose they have to prioritise things and pavements should take priority over roads. IMHO

claycraft
27-03-2005, 21:50
Originally posted by Lostrider

I suppose they have to prioritise things and pavements should take priority over roads. IMHO

I kinda understand where you could be coming from with that............poorly kept pavement causes trip/fall. However what if poor road surface causes a motorcycle to loose control and either hit another vehicle or mount said pavement and plough into pedestrians etc. Motorists pay road tax as well as council tax:(

Lostrider
27-03-2005, 21:59
Originally posted by claycraft
I kinda understand where you could be coming from with that............poorly kept pavement causes trip/fall. However what if poor road surface causes a motorcycle to loose control and either hit another vehicle or mount said pavement and plough into pedestrians etc. Motorists pay road tax as well as council tax:(

I take your point, but as a biker myself , holes I seem to be able to contend with, diesel and petrol spills on bends roundabouts is another thing. Scares the s**t out of you when it happens.

claycraft
27-03-2005, 23:11
Originally posted by Lostrider
I take your point, but as a biker myself , holes I seem to be able to contend with, diesel and petrol spills on bends roundabouts is another thing. Scares the s**t out of you when it happens.

Cant argue with the fuel spills, as also a fellow biker. Pity more of Joe public and polititions dont understand how dangerous they are.
See my earlier post on the Parkway slip road as to why I used a bike rather than car as example. Bad road surfaces are far more a problem to us two wheelers. Stay safe:thumbsup:

Andy C
28-03-2005, 09:52
Twentywell Lane, entire lower half, is in very poor condition.

fuzzy
28-03-2005, 10:01
All around outside the Harley pub on Glossop Rd. Not pothole just bad road suface. loads missing and bad patching.

fuzzy
28-03-2005, 10:03
Glossop Rd outside Hallamshire Hosp. Bad patching and sunken manholes. None of Glossop Rd is good.

It does seem that even if they fix it they do it badly.

fuzzy
28-03-2005, 10:10
Darwin Lane.

Outside schools.

No grip on surface of road.

At least 4 years.


This was like this when i started working there but they were still building sites at the time and i thought it might get done when they finished with big lorries and that. But it has never been done. Try stopping on there when it raining and a child jumps off the pavement for no reason at all (they do do this). I just wonder if one of them has to be killed before it is looked at.

Lostrider
28-03-2005, 10:58
Just out of interest, has any body driven in Southern Ireland.

After circumnavigating Eire from Dublin to Clifden in Connemara a few years ago, I realised where the Irish Navvis practised before they came over here and built britains roads. :hihi:

pitsmoor
28-03-2005, 12:18
I wrote of my alloy wheels last year on sheffield road near tgi fridays i wrote too the council too make a claim as the pot hole in the road damaged my alloys they told me they check the road every 6 months and as they checked it 2 months before they couldnt do any thing. I think that this is a load of bull does anyone know what i should do too take this further.

Lostrider
28-03-2005, 13:06
Originally posted by pitsmoor
I wrote of my alloy wheels last year on sheffield road near tgi fridays i wrote too the council too make a claim as the pot hole in the road damaged my alloys they told me they check the road every 6 months and as they checked it 2 months before they couldnt do any thing. I think that this is a load of bull does anyone know what i should do too take this further.

Sounds like bull to me too. Go back and take a photo of the hole and the damage and make a cliam through a solicitor. Or maybe one of those claim agencies on the telly.

cgksheff
28-03-2005, 13:15
The claim would have to show negligence.

By checking regularly, they can prove that they have reasonably complied with basic requirements to avoid negligence.

The only way round this is if someone had reported the problem since the last check and they had taken no action.

The other way is to have had photos of the hole and have an expert witness state that the size of the hole is such that it would have already been big enough to need repairing at the time of the last inspection (2 months previous).

I am assuming that it has been filled in by now!

Still worth a free chat with a solicitor.

couriers
28-03-2005, 14:17
while we talking about potholes, how do you go about claiming for an accident caused by a pot hole?>

claycraft
28-03-2005, 23:18
Originally posted by couriers
while we talking about potholes, how do you go about claiming for an accident caused by a pot hole?>

If you get no joy from the council or highways dept, you could give the Motor Insurers Bureau a shot, although what the outcome would be I can't say.
Still, worth a try I suppose.

investigator
29-03-2005, 07:46
Originally posted by pitsmoor
I wrote of my alloy wheels last year on sheffield road near tgi fridays i wrote too the council too make a claim as the pot hole in the road damaged my alloys they told me they check the road every 6 months and as they checked it 2 months before they couldnt do any thing. I think that this is a load of bull does anyone know what i should do too take this further.

I've had the same problem and managed to get the money back from the council for my tyre and alloy wheel damaged due to a pothole. It took about 5 letters, but they paid in full in about 2 months (£200). I've PM'd you with my phone number so I can tell you how i managed it.

(Basically my second letter included this paragraph...

" As I have a general right of access under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act, I would like to make a request for information. Please provide me with paper photocopies of any minutes of meetings, correspondence, miscellaneous collections of papers, e-mails, personal notebooks, as well as prints of any electronic files that contain information pertaining to either my claim or road maintenance of xxxx Road. "

They seemed to change tune after that ! )

HotPhil
29-03-2005, 09:33
Those kind of "it's always somebody else's fault" claims make me angry. If someone's driving/riding too quickly to see/avoid a pothole I can't understand how they can then justify claiming money for it. Council probably just coughed up because it was cheaper/easier than digging out all the records/dealing with it.
Still, a sad sign of the increasing blame culture that seems to be taking over, resulting in higher taxes for all of us.

investigator
29-03-2005, 09:45
Originally posted by hotphil
"If someone's driving/riding too quickly to see/avoid a pothole"

Your insight into my claim is amazing... As it happens, I was reversing into a parking spot at about 1/2 a mile a week and my car went down a pothole that was full of leaves.

Originally posted by hotphil
"Council probably just coughed up because it was cheaper/easier than digging out all the records/dealing with it."


My point exactly... and I hope my advice helps someone else. It wouldn't have made much difference as I had already started legal proceedings and complained to the Information Commissioner becase the council hadn't complied with the Freedom of Information act.

Originally posted by hotphil
Those kind of "it's always somebody else's fault" claims make me angry.

Good. I'm glad.

HotPhil
29-03-2005, 10:21
At the end of the day, you were driving the vehicle at the time onto a surface you couldn't confirm was there - the council aren't *wholly* responsible for your error. Driving is a privilege, not a right, and if you choose to drive onto a surface that is not as it seems, that is your choice. The council didn't make you park there, it's not completely their fault.
Always seeking to blame someone else is an increasing trend I'm afraid.
Anyway, back on thread - have any of the mentioned holes been submitted to the council/repaired yet?

Avalon
29-03-2005, 10:32
Unfortunatley Hotphil you cannot always avoid potholes. I know there have been a few times driving around sheffield where the pot hole is right in your path, and to avoid it you would need to go onto the other side of the road. A bit difficult when there is traffic comming the other way!

How do you work out that it is our choice what road/surface to drive on? The council maintain the highway, and there are only certain roads that we may drive on. Are you seriously suggesting that i should change my route to avoid all the pot holes? If this were the case i would have to leave my car in another county and get the bus/train etc? Why should i have to change my route to avoid potholes when it is the councils job to repair them? :rant: :rant:

investigator
29-03-2005, 10:36
Fair enough view I spose and Yes... my hole was repaired! They put a yellow dot in it about a day after I reported it then repaired it about a month later. I also reported quite a few more holes in the same area and within about six weeks I spotted two council workers with spades and a van load of tarmac bodging up the rest. They were just shovellin a spadeful of tarmac into the holes and patting it down!

npatchett
29-03-2005, 10:50
1. Hagg Hill and I think its called Stephen Lane (the one you turn right onto at the top of Hagg Hill)
2. All along these 2 roads
3. Suspension-breakingly deep and wide. (I sometimes think I'll disappear in one and never come out again!)
4. 4-5 months. (Some did get filled in but so poorly that they act like mini speedbumps now)

HotPhil
29-03-2005, 10:51
A bit difficult when there is traffic comming the other way!
Then you wait till it is safe to do so.
How do you work out that it is our choice what road/surface to drive on?
Because you *choose* to drive.
Are you seriously suggesting that i should change my route to avoid all the pot holes?
No, that would be unreasonable.

All I'm trying to say is that potholes happen. It's life. Get a balanced outlook on things. Chill. Life would be very dull without the odd hazard.
We're lucky we have any kind of decent roads and the opportunity to drive on them. They're not a God-given right. If you don't like them, don't use them. Or vote someone in who will spend many times more money on making sure your route is perfect, and watch your council tax rise.
Reporting them is the best thing to do, but assuming that all roads will be in "A1" (geddit?) condition all the time is unreasonable. It could be achieved, but the costs would be massive. It's a compromise - we each have to pay for it in the end and I think the balance with other constraints on the council purse seems to be about right.
Better to drive sensibly so that you can see any hazard and take appropriate action and then report the hole when you get home.

npatchett
29-03-2005, 10:51
Originally posted by fuzzy
Darwin Lane.

Outside schools.

No grip on surface of road.

At least 4 years.


This was like this when i started working there but they were still building sites at the time and i thought it might get done when they finished with big lorries and that. But it has never been done. Try stopping on there when it raining and a child jumps off the pavement for no reason at all (they do do this). I just wonder if one of them has to be killed before it is looked at.

I back-up this claim too! Stupid. I can't belive how this road is never gritted when it snows :loopy: I'd have thought it would be a priority what with there being 2 schools on it? :|

Avalon
29-03-2005, 10:58
Originally posted by hotphil
Then you wait till it is safe to do so.

Because you *choose* to drive.

No, that would be unreasonable.

All I'm trying to say is that potholes happen. It's life. Get a balanced outlook on things. Chill. Life would be very dull without the odd hazard.
We're lucky we have any kind of decent roads and the opportunity to drive on them. They're not a God-given right. If you don't like them, don't use them. Or vote someone in who will spend many times more money on making sure your route is perfect, and watch your council tax rise.
Reporting them is the best thing to do, but assuming that all roads will be in "A1" (geddit?) condition all the time is unreasonable. It could be achieved, but the costs would be massive. It's a compromise - we each have to pay for it in the end and I think the balance with other constraints on the council purse seems to be about right.
Better to drive sensibly so that you can see any hazard and take appropriate action and then report the hole when you get home.

I am not suggesting that all roads should be perfect. But there is a difference between speding decent amounts of money on roads so they are ok, and spending as little money as possible so that when a pot hole arises they slap a bit of soft tarmac on it and the next time it rains the hole is back!

I do choose to drive, it is a neccessity. But given that the majority of people drive do you not think that it would be worth spending a bit more money on roads?

foo_fighter
29-03-2005, 11:21
I'm with hotphil on this one, his points of view seem eminently logical, and well put forward.

If you have a problem, tell the relevant people.

All those people claiming are taking public money, just think about that one.

There's another thread going on at the moment complaining about "all the money spent on bureaucracy", well, keeping records, and answering queries like those mrinvestigat suggests are the ones costing *us* all those tax £s.

Thanks for that.

:)

investigator
29-03-2005, 14:26
I wouldn't have had to claim if the council used the money I and others like me paid them to keep the roads in a safe condition. As it was, because the council failed to maintain the road properly, a dangerous hole was left that meant I had to pay £200+ just before Christmas that I could ill afford. I don't see anything wrong in wanting this money back... I pay my council tax, road tax, insurance tax, petrol tax and just about every other bloody tax that car drivers get clobbered with...

Oh, and if anyone is interested, i've put a pic of the hole HERE (www.parkgrange.co.uk) for you to comment on (complete with yellow dot, but now clear of leaves).

HotPhil
29-03-2005, 14:42
It's a nasty hole, granted.

But I think we should just agree to disagree on this debate - you believe the council were wholly at fault when you drove your car into a somewhat concealed hole, I believe you should bear at least part responsibility.

Nuff said I guess.

foo_fighter
29-03-2005, 17:38
Originally posted by mrinvestigat
Oh, and if anyone is interested, i've put a pic of the hole HERE (www.parkgrange.co.uk) for you to comment on (complete with yellow dot, but now clear of leaves).
Looking at that photo' the "hole" has smooth sides that a wheel would simply roll into, and back out of, so how did it damage your wheel?

Did you kerb the rim, you really shouldn't do that you know, it'll damage it, hole or no hole.

Well there we go, so it was your fault after all, and the taxpayer had to pay for your carelessness...

...thanks for showing us the evidence.

:)

claycraft
29-03-2005, 21:40
Originally posted by hotphil
Those kind of "it's always somebody else's fault" claims make me angry. If someone's driving/riding too quickly to see/avoid a pothole I can't understand how they can then justify claiming money for it. Council probably just coughed up because it was cheaper/easier than digging out all the records/dealing with it.
Still, a sad sign of the increasing blame culture that seems to be taking over, resulting in higher taxes for all of us.

OK hotphil what would be your judgement on the following which happened to me some years ago...........
I approached a T-junction/give way on my motorbike (at walking pace I may add) with a pot hole(which was in plain view) on my side of the road. The width of road was narrow and said pothole(approx 2 feet in diameter) took up the whole left half of my piece of road (1st 1/4 if you like).
I intended to turn right at the junction and so was positioning myself accordingly just left of centre but as I was doing so a car entered the opposite side.
As stated the road was narrow and so I turned very slightly to avoid the chance of any collision. The front wheel dropped down the loose sides of the pot hole and the bike tucked under me.
The whole thing was witnessed by around 20 people (Very Embarassing!:blush: ), mostly pedestrians plus a driver behind me but more importantly the car driver who had entered the junction.
Everybodys view, including my own was that no one was to blame except the condition of the road surface.
With photograpic evidence of the pot hole and measurements of its sizes I set off to a solicitors armed with my list of witnesses.
What did I get.......Sweet F.A.
Because the damage did not total above £1000 I was advised that a claim would cost me more than I would gain.

I had a repair bill to cough up for myself:x plus the joy of seeing the whole filled in with shiney new tarmac within two days!:evil:

It would seem I am not part of your "blame culture" but a victim of it!!!! :rant: :loopy: :evil:

HotPhil
30-03-2005, 05:53
Well, my opinion is that an accident is just that, an unintentional event. It wasn't your intention to for the bike to fall into the pothole and it wasn't the council's intention for the hole to be there.
So having said no one was to blame you went off and tried to get money out of the council. If you accept they weren't to blame I don't see how you would expect them to pay out.
Life happens, it has it's ups and downs. Always seeking recompense from others, and/or blaming them for unplanned events doesn't seem right to me. I'm not sure I'd be happy spending my life viewing myself as a "victim" every time something slightly unfortunate happened.

claycraft
30-03-2005, 11:39
Originally posted by hotphil

So having said no one was to blame you went off and tried to get money out of the council. If you accept they weren't to blame I don't see how you would expect them to pay out.


What I actually said was that all the views of the witnesses and that of my own, was that no one was to blame except the condition of the road surface.
The COUNCILS road surface.
No pot hole= no "accident". (Accident; Event without apparent cause, :huh: Pot hole=accident=cause, surely:confused: )
How long on a quiet junction (we're not talking A road route hear) does a 2 foot diameter, 3 inch deep pot hole take to form?
I would guess on more than 6 months!

As a road fund licence payer on several vehicles as well as council tax payer, I found myself a little aggrived to be almost £850 out of pocket due to your so called "Accident".
(Ever been to the likes of Spain/Portugal and noticed their roads? :thumbsup:Looks like the whole countrys been resurfaced and I'm sure they pay a lot less tax than we do! Biker heaven, but off subject:wink: ) In your view then should I have picked up the bike (and relative components), dusted it off, ho-hummed and put it down to lifes experiences?

I do not consider myself a constant victim evey time life pokes a stick in my eye, I'm old enough to realise things don't always run smooth.
However, when I end up on the loosing side of a situation caused by someone elses neglect with my hands tied, I get a little miffed shall we say:evil:

foo_fighter
30-03-2005, 11:45
Originally posted by claycraft
Ever been to the likes of Spain/Portugal and noticed their roads? :thumbsup:Looks like the whole countrys been resurfaced and I'm sure they pay a lot less tax than we do! Biker heaven, but off subject:wink:
That depends where you go, and on which roads, I've been on plenty that are awfull.

Many new roads have been built, in both countrys by the injection of EU money, so when you state

Originally posted by claycraft
As a road fund licence payer on several vehicles as well as council tax payer
now you know where the money went...

...to provide good roads for you (and me) when you're on holiday.

;)

HotPhil
30-03-2005, 12:10
It is unfortunate that people suffer loss/accidents because of potholes.
Perhaps if more people considered it dutiful to report potholes (and as we've seen they're then filled in very quickly) we wouldn't have these accidents. Those who are of the opinion that all potholes are the council's fault and get worked up about them should perhaps see what they can do to sort them out, rather than moan. IMO if you see a dangerous pothole and don't report it, you're more responsible than the council. If I was on the council and could prove the identity of people who didn't have reasonable excuses for not reporting such things, I'd look to bring some kind of claim for a "lack of civic duty". Sadly, I'm quite sure the woolly, liberal courts we have here would disagree.
As I mentioned at the start of this thread, everyone here has internet access and the council have a website where problems can be reported. This is perhaps where our energies should go. The more the citizens of this fair city take an interest in helping make it better by reporting problems and not seeking to put down the efforts of those in charge, the better our town will be.
And if we think about it, the more we, as citizens, do like this, the smaller the portion of the budget that would have to go on inspections. Meaning a greater portion could go on repairs, or indeed any of the other calls on the public purse.
There will always be people who think they should be provided with everything for little effort, but I'm sure the majority of us would agree that life don't work like that.
I do hope the starter of this thread is filling in the reports on the council's website, otherwise all those posting details of holes will have to go on enduring them - council can't fix what they don't know about!

foo_fighter
30-03-2005, 12:21
Said it before, but I've gotta say it again.

Well said hotphil.

:thumbsup:

claycraft
30-03-2005, 12:27
Originally posted by foo_fighter
That depends where you go, and on which roads, I've been on plenty that are awfull.

Many new roads have been built, in both countrys by the injection of EU money, so when you state


now you know where the money went...

...to provide good roads for you (and me) when you're on holiday.

;)

Point taken but what happened to "Charity begins at home" :rolleyes: :wink:

hotphil, with regards to fault laying with the council, the phrases "a stitch in time" and "closing the stable door after the horse has bolted" springs to mind. :lol:

Claycraft now stands down from the soap box:wave:

exmrbd
30-03-2005, 12:48
Andwell Lane (Sheffield 11 Ringinglow)

Outside the Farm Building

5 deep potholes + 30ft of road needs resufacing

Keep repoting it for the last 4 years but get told that they know that the road surface in uneven but it does not need re -tarmacing.

If so why do drivers have to dive some time up the grass path to stop there cars been damaged

bigflesh
30-03-2005, 16:07
Thanks gang.... together we can make a difference....

Anymore for anymore? (said in Market Stall Holder fashion!)

1 road name
2 location of hole
3 description of crater
4 age

cgksheff
30-03-2005, 17:09
Originally posted by hotphil

I do hope the starter of this thread is filling in the reports on the council's website, otherwise all those posting details of holes will have to go on enduring them - council can't fix what they don't know about!

BigFlesh,

Any comment??

bigflesh
30-03-2005, 18:50
Originally posted by cgksheff
BigFlesh,

Any comment??

The starter of this board.........

DECLARES......

All entries will be submitted to the Streetforce website..... duplicated or not (not that there is anyway of telling!)

An follow on email will be sent to Streetforce

A further email will be sent to local press.

aaarrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thank you!!

Greybeard
30-03-2005, 20:29
Hope it's not too late, - but can I mention the road from High Bradfield to Worrall.

Pot holes aren't really the hazard along here, - it's more the little islands of remaining ashphalt standing about 4 inches proud of what has essentialy become a dirt track that pose the problem.

If they could just send someone up with a JCB to remove them we'd be ever so grateful ;)

bigflesh
30-03-2005, 20:55
Originally posted by Greybeard
Hope it's not too late


It's never too late Greybeard......

KEEP YOUR HOLES FLOWING FOLKS

foo_fighter
31-03-2005, 07:16
Originally posted by bigflesh
An follow on email will be sent to Streetforce

A further email will be sent to local press.

...and while you're at it, why not send a letter to your MP regarding the chronic nationwide underinvestment reported in the Star last week...

:)

npatchett
31-03-2005, 08:57
I may have the first report of 'Report A Pot Hole' in action :clap:

Coming into work today up Hagg Hill and what do I find? Fresh tarmac in all the pot holes. The same was true for Stephen Hill too!! :clap:

foo_fighter
31-03-2005, 10:50
Originally posted by npatchett
I may have the first report of 'Report A Pot Hole' in action :clap:

Coming into work today up Hagg Hill and what do I find? Fresh tarmac in all the pot holes. The same was true for Stephen Hill too!! :clap:
...but bigflesh hasn't sent the list in yet.

Is this a conspiracy by the council to undermine this thread...

:suspect:

...or was hotphil right, and the best way to get something done is to report it to the right people, rather than just harping on about it here.

;)

bigflesh
02-04-2005, 11:46
Hi gang, thanks to all who contributed.

The list went off in the form of an email today to streetforce. I have asked streetforce to comment (if they can) on our roads as feel that this will conclude this little exercise very nicely.

Letter below.

Biggy

bigflesh
02-04-2005, 11:47
To whom it may concern.

As we are sure you are already aware, the state of some of Sheffield roads have
a tendancy to cause raised eyebrows amoungst the community and visitors of
Sheffield. We have compiled a comprehensive list of roads, which in our humble opinion, require maintenance/further investigation. This list has been an active internet thread since 26.03.05 and the users of this board feel that this list provides a snapshot of the latest "problem" areas.

We would be grateful if you can respond to this correspondence with details of your policies regarding reports of this nature, along with details of timescales and forthcoming maintenance for each specific area mentioned.

Many thanks in advance and goodluck with the continuation of your good work.

Bigflesh & the forum members

cgksheff
02-04-2005, 18:52
"some of the users" and "some of the forum members" would be more accurate.

Please ask permission before choosing to speak for 10,000 cybernames.:D

dinp
02-04-2005, 23:33
I know this is probably too late, but here's another one...

The B road just past Morrisons at Halfway, as it goes down the hill towards the Staveley junction et all (by the Welcome to Sheffield sign)

Absolutely shocking road surface, surprised there hasnt been a landslide yet from all the crumbling tarmac.

Been there for bloody ages, get it sorted!

espadrille
03-04-2005, 06:39
Just as you come out of Burton Street at Hillsborough,( to head down the Road towards Penistone Rd ), there is a huge pothole at the top of the hill.
Can remember the name of the Rd though.

So to reiterate, pass by Burton St Project at the bottom of Burton Street and it is the first Rd off Burton St on the right.
The hole is at the top of that Rd

max
03-04-2005, 09:10
Originally posted by cgksheff
"some of the users" and "some of the forum members" would be more accurate.

Please ask permission before choosing to speak for 10,000 cybernames.:D

I've got to agree with this sentiment. I've not contributed to this thread as I report potholes when and where I see them and they tend to get fixed soon after.

For instance, a small crater appeared near the junction of Hagg Hill and Bole Hill Road causing cars to swerve to avoid it. One phone call and less than a week later it, and its sibling holes, was filled in.

bigflesh
18-05-2005, 18:29
Hi gang....

NEWS FLASH REPORT FROM COUNCIL INTO BIGGY'S INBOX AS PER "THE BIGFLESH REPORT" AS FOLLOWS.....

I have included what YOU SAID

and what THEY SAID.....

here goes....

burny
18-05-2005, 18:46
1. ROAD NAME = Quarry Vale Road
2. LOCATION OF POTHOLE ON ROAD = Middle of Road/ Various potholes all over road.
3. DESCRIPTION OF THE CRATER = Deep approx 2/3 inches
4. AGE OF THE HOLE = At least 12 months

- - -

bigflesh
18-05-2005, 18:48
IN SUMMARY - you said/they said....

DETAILED CONCLUSIVE REPORT...... by the bigfleshmeister. I thank you!......

YOU SAID
1. Herries Road
2. A few metres after Longley Lane heading towards Fir Vale.
3. Service cover about 2 inches lower than road surface.
4. Many, many years.
THEY SAID
Herries Road - Low service box to apparatus owned and maintained by
British Gas. Details have been passed on to British Gas for the service box
to be adjusted.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
1. Sheffield Parkway
2. about 500 yards from Catcliffe junction, city bound, outside lane.
YES - the "welcome to sheffield bumps".
3. various bumps in carriageway, feels like subsidence and really
pulls on the steering wheel, approx 8 jarring shocks at 70mph... can't
be safe.
4. 5 Years approx, often wondered why its never been sorted
THEY SAID
Sheffield Parkway - The section referred to is within the boundary
of Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council and details have therefore been
forwarded to Rotherham Street Pride.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Malin Bridge, at Junction between bottom of Stannington Road/Dykes Hall Lane.
Been there since a week last Friday ago.
THEY SAID
Malin Bridge - No pot hole found but Yorkshire Water have been
working in this area and it may have been damage associated with a major
water burst, which has now been repaired.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Shoreham Street
Between the BBC Sheffield and Red Tape Studios (?) Building on the
left hand lane.
A small drain, some distance below the rest of the road surface
Been there at least 6 months....
THEY SAID
Shoreham Street - The drain is a service box in an area where
Yorkshire Water have carried out work. Yorkshire Water have been informed
of the defect in their reinstatement and intend to carry out repairs in the
very near future.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
1. Road Name - Helliwell Lane, Hillcrest Road, Cambridge Road, Wood
Royd Road, Deepcar.
2. Location of Offending Hole - All the way up Helliwell Lane,
Junction of Carr Road and Hillcrest Road, Bottom part of Wood Royd
Road (after the bus route ends)
3. Crater Description - Pot holes of all shapes and sizes - someone
came round about 2 months ago and spray painted them all yellow!
4. Age (approximate) - Ever since i can remember!
THEY SAID
Helliwell Lane, Hillcrest Road, Cambridge Road & Wood Royd Road -
Repairs have been identified and repair work should be completed within the
next 2 to 3 weeks.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Manchester Rd S10
From Shore Lane towards Crosspool
Not so much a pot hole but big dips where drains/ manholes are a lot
lower than the road where it has been resurfaced.
A month or so but they seem to be gettin worse.
THEY SAID
Manchester Road, Crosspool - The defects are due to low service
boxes to apparatus owned and maintained by Yorkshire Water. Details have
been passed to Yorkshire Water for the service boxes to be adjusted.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
I left the Parkway(heading into town) on the Mosbrough slip
road/roundabout wishing to join the Prince of Wales road.
Now although not a pot hole but just as dangerous, the road was
surfaced with what only can be described as very unhappy tarmac. It
had seriously got the hump
Bad enough when you are in a car but as I was on my motorbike the
surface almost had me off as, at its worse, I had the bike tipped over
negotiating the island.
THEY SAID
Sheffield Parkway / Mosborough Slip Road - This problem will be
dealt with as part of major reconstruction works which are due to commence
in June 2005.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
The area around Rufford Rise, Beighton
All over the place
Very lumpy
Been like it for years
THEY SAID
Rufford Rise - The carriageways in this area are inspected on a
regular basis and, although they are uneven and the ride quality is poor,
their general condition and rate of deterioration is insufficient to warrant
remedial treatment at this time.
----------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Fulwood road, Stumperlowe Hall road, hangingwater road, brooklands avenue
THEY SAID
Fulwood Road / Stumperlowe Hall Road / Hangingwater Road /
Brooklands Avenue - Regular inspections of these roads are undertaken and
repairs issued to defects that exceed safety intervention levels. A section
of Hangingwater Road, on the 'S' bend near to Greystones Road is showing
signs of major fretting to the surface and this section is to be included in
a small programme of resurfacing work to be carried out later this year.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Wordsworth Avenue potholes of varying sizes road surface crumbling
from one end to the other,
New traffic plan for Sheffield regeneration find your way in braile.
THEY SAID
Wordsworth Avenue - A section of Wordsworth Avenue, from Deerlands
Avenue to Wordsworth Crescent is to be included in a small programme of
resurfacing work to be carried out later this year.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Effingham Road
from the dancing dollar area to after Bacon Lane
More pothole than good road surface
Been there years and years
THEY SAID
Effingham Road - Repairs have been identified and repair work should
be completed within the next four to six weeks.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Twentywell Lane, entire lower half, is in very poor condition.
THEY SAID
Twentywell Lane - Repair work has been identified and repair work
should be completed within the next four to six weeks.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
All around outside the Harley pub on Glossop Rd. Not pothole just bad
road suface. loads missing and bad patching.
THEY SAID
Glossop Road (outside Harley Pub & Hallamshire Hospital) - There are
undulations in the surface of the carriageway, but no defects exceeding
current safety intervention levels.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Darwin Lane.
Outside schools.
No grip on surface of road.
At least 4 years.
THEY SAID
Darwin Lane - The carriageway surface is deteriorating and Darwin
Lane is being considered for inclusion in this year's carriageway surfacing
programme.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
1. Hagg Hill and I think its called Stephen Lane (the one you turn
right onto at the top of Hagg Hill)
2. All along these 2 roads
3. Suspension-breakingly deep and wide. (I sometimes think I'll
disappear in one and never come out again!)
4. 4-5 months. (Some did get filled in but so poorly that they act
like mini speedbumps now)
THEY SAID
Hagg Hill / Stephen Lane - Repairs to pot holes were carried out as
a priority.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Andwell Lane (Sheffield 11 Ringinglow)
Outside the Farm Building
5 deep potholes + 30ft of road needs resufacing
Keep repoting it for the last 4 years but get told that they know that the road surface in uneven but it does not need re -tarmacing.
THEY SAID
Andwell Lane - Localised patching repairs have been carried out and
this site is to be assessed for inclusion in future resurfacing programmes.
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
road from High Bradfield to Worrall.
Pot holes aren't really the hazard along here, - it's more the little islands of remaining ashphalt standing about 4 inches proud of what has essentialy become a dirt track that pose the problem.
If they could just send someone up with a JCB to remove them we'd be
ever so grateful.
THEY SAID
High Bradfield to Worrall - No specific location given and no
problems found where tarmac is 100mm above the remaining road construction.
If a contact name and telephone number can be provided for this enquiry I
will arrange for further inspections to be undertaken
---------------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID
Sheldon Road
Nether Edge
Patchwork and dangerously bumpy, given its narrow width and its busy
also so they need to close it off for a week and make a diversion
THEY SAID
Sheldon Road - Sheldon Road is to be included in a small programme
of resurfacing work to be carried out later this year.

To finalise this, my thanks again to the Streetforce team... for fellow forumers.... Streetforce are available on by phone to the City Council Helpline on 273 4567,
by Fax on 273 6507,
by letter to Street Force, Olive Grove Depot, Olive Grove Road, Sheffield,
S2 3GE
by e-mail to streetforce@sheffield.gov.uk

AND PROOF IS IN THE PUD - THEY DO REPLY!

msbehavin
18-05-2005, 18:49
Well done Big!!! Might let you take up a 'cause' on my behalf if you get results like that!!:clap:

saxon51
18-05-2005, 19:02
Excellent work bigflesh.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks a million.

Now, I've got this dry patch on my lawn, and I was just wondering if....................:)

burny
18-05-2005, 19:25
Albion Street.
All over the whole road in various places from top to bottom.
Various sizes from 1/2 an inch to 3 inches.
Various ages from 6 months to 10 years by the looks of the bugger!

msbehavin
18-05-2005, 19:26
There's a crackin' one on Hangingwater Road between High Storrs and Nether Green. Just after the tree that's in the middle of the road...

desy
18-05-2005, 19:41
The parkway link both directions onto and off onto the parkway around the top roundabout. Time approx 12 months .

Also under the flyover at the same spot on the Sheffield inbound. yet again 12 months possibly more.

Also would come under the highways agency or Sheffield as they pay the rates on Fence/Park hill between Swallownest and Fence. Since they did major Road iimprovements about 3 months. This was created by doing it.

Down side of road joint between tarmac strips plus the pot holes left by taking out the cats eyes. not filling them in.

Full length of Forncett Street used continually by heavy traffic visiting the companies in most places back to the cobbles. Time many years.

Carlisle Street East over it's full length full of pot holes that fill with water. At least 2 years. Mainly from junction of Atlas to Upwell Street Junctions.

Effingham Road at the corner of the old gas holder going inward to city at the junction wwith the road on the left. Fills with water and creates a large pool everytime it rains. 2 yrs

Numerous sections of the roads on the New one way into Sheffield city centre between Neepsend Lane and bottom of Corporation Street. 3 to 4 yrs

Pot hole were grate drops Sheffield inbound on Handsworth top opposite Jehovah's witness place.4 yrs

slip Road onto Parkway at Handsworth Ruff as a bears bum. 2 yrs.

From Upwell Street lights to roundabout going to firvale were 5 roads join.

Betwee Deepcar and Stocksbridge road just as you enter Stocksbridge.

bigflesh
19-05-2005, 19:19
Hi gang.... I am sure you all like my report - see above..... I am compiling a new one............. and will feedback in a few months. Therefore, do we have any more takers?

Kr

Biggy

desy
19-05-2005, 20:21
Amendments to yesterdays posting.

Also the return leg from corporation street back to Neepsend Bridge.

All of Handsworth top inbound from Shell station to lights at ASDA.

Jan39
19-05-2005, 21:00
Originally posted by bigflesh
All, given that we are in the majority aggrieved by the state of Sheffields roads.... main arterial routes and off the beaten track B Roads and housing estate roads, I thought it a great idea to begin a thread on REPORT A HOLE!!! Hopefully the highways department of the City Council will observe and be able to prioritise fixes to these suspension destroyers! SO, go ahead, report your POTHOLE!!!
having relatives in Lancashire I used to feel quite proud of our roads and pavements compared to the state of theirs, but for many years now our roads and pavements have been a disgrace, they are full of potholes and patched up messes, in Lancashire they are so much improved I feel ashamed of the state of ours when relatives visit.

Details required:
1. ROAD NAME
2. LOCATION OF POTHOLE ON ROAD
3. DESCRIPTION OF THE CRATER
4. AGE OF THE HOLE

redrobbo
19-05-2005, 21:07
Well done bigflesh! :thumbsup:

Seems you are now our resident pothole fixer! :clap:

bigflesh
19-05-2005, 21:48
Originally posted by redrobbo
Well done bigflesh! :thumbsup:

Seems you are now our resident pothole fixer! :clap:

Red, I have many talents including snow forecasting (see previous posts int winter), but for now, I will stick to potholing!

Bigmeister

bigflesh
19-05-2005, 21:55
Originally posted by Jan39


Jan39 I see 2 posts.... welcome.... and thanks for reminding everyone of my originalaim.......... here we go again......

bigflesh
19-05-2005, 21:56
PLEASE SEE PAGE BEFORE FOR FULL POTHOLE REPORT AS PER CITY COUNCIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All, given that we are in the majority aggrieved by the state of Sheffields roads.... main arterial routes and off the beaten track B Roads and housing estate roads, I thought it a great idea to begin a thread on REPORT A HOLE!!! Hopefully the highways department of the City Council will observe and be able to prioritise fixes to these suspension destroyers! SO, go ahead, report your POTHOLE!!!
having relatives in Lancashire I used to feel quite proud of our roads and pavements compared to the state of theirs, but for many years now our roads and pavements have been a disgrace, they are full of potholes and patched up messes, in Lancashire they are so much improved I feel ashamed of the state of ours when relatives visit.

Details required:
1. ROAD NAME
2. LOCATION OF POTHOLE ON ROAD
3. DESCRIPTION OF THE CRATER
4. AGE OF THE HOLE

MAY I ADD.... THE COUNCIL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN RESPONDING TO MY ORIGINAL INVESTIGATION, TO WHICH I THANK THEM.

desy
20-05-2005, 06:05
Please note that 2 things could be difficult to access on the Pothole situation:
(1) How old? If you don't travel the road regular how long are you going to know it's been there.

(2) Type of crater? Usually there are that many on a stretch most of the people havn't the time to get out of there car measure it access it then put it on line. That is unless we have any spot the hole anoraks out there.
:gag:

dinp
20-05-2005, 08:54
Commercial Street S1, heading INTO town just by the Fitzalan Square taxi rank.

Drains that are set far too deep into the road.

18 Months at least.


--------------------

An amendment to a previous one which was rejected, probably because of my bad information, so i'll try again....

Ringwood Crescent, Beighton, S20

The entire length of the road is plagued with corroded road surface (almost gravel in parts) and bodged repairs that now resemble natural speed bumps.

18 Months at least.

If they say 'rate of deterioration is insufficient to warrant
remedial treatment at this time.' then they really need their heads checking. If a drain on Shoreham Street can be sorted (which isn't as bad), then so can this....

Jan39
20-05-2005, 09:33
Originally posted by dinp
Commercial Street S1, heading INTO town just by the Fitzalan Square taxi rank.

Drains that are set far too deep into the road.

18 Months at least.


--------------------

An amendment to a previous one which was rejected, probably because of my bad information, so i'll try again....

Ringwood Crescent, Beighton, S20

The entire length of the road is plagued with corroded road surface (almost gravel in parts) and bodged repairs that now resemble natural speed bumps.


I think it might be easier to name the roads with no potholes and uneven patched up areas. I think probably 99% of Sheffield roads are a disgrace

18 Months at least.

If they say 'rate of deterioration is insufficient to warrant
remedial treatment at this time.' then they really need their heads checking. If a drain on Shoreham Street can be sorted (which isn't as bad), then so can this....

dinp
20-05-2005, 13:25
Perhaps so - but this road in my experience is especially bad, which is why i've singled it out.

Its roads like this which can put tracking and suspension out. It might be cheaper to mend the problem, before people start sending in their claims for knackered suspension/steering racks and so on.

desy
20-05-2005, 20:25
Correction to previous comments
Effingham Road from LLITE to underneath tunnell road degridation of work done before.

Under Park Square roundabout between old castle market flyover to were slip road joins from left (major trunk road).

dinp
20-05-2005, 22:58
Ah, the obvious one!

Park Square roundabout, left hand lane by the City Road island/traffic lights. Not so much a pothole, more a mini-ditch that the whole car can experience before being flung out and into a corner.

Has been there for about 2-3 years at least.

Tony
07-04-2006, 12:44
Report a Pothole 2005 was a great success with many previously unreported potholes being repaired.

Bigflesh has kicked off the Report A Pothole 2006 campaign. Here's the link to the new thread.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=102087