Just wondering If anyone else suffers with this?

I might if I knew what it was.... :)

My interpretation of 'empty room syndrome' would be when all my kids are out and I'm home alone.............feeling lost for something to do..............no requests for food nor drink .........no queries as to whether jeans have been laundered; and I wander aimlessly around................

Originally posted by JoePritchard
I might if I knew what it was.... :)

I purposely Didn't put what it was as a test to see if anyone who suffered with it knew what I was talking about.

Empty Room Syndrome is the feeling of wanting to "lay cable" when being in an empty room, empty house, or just being on your own in a quiet place.
I know one or two people who "suffer" with it, but I was wondering if it was more common.

I must be stupid cos I still haven't got a clue what you mean!

Lay cable! What electric cable? I don't understand!

Sorry if I am thick but as some of you will know from my recent posts - I AM NOT SLEEPING VERY WELL!!!

Me too Dawny - maybe it's a guy thing!

Originally posted by Trever


Empty Room Syndrome is the feeling of wanting to "lay cable" when being in an empty room, empty house, or just being on your own in a quiet place.
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Is that some kind of uphomism?:heyhey: :heyhey:

Actually, slimsid2000, where I come from 'laying cable' is a euphemism and perhaps if that's what's intended people who indulge should perhaps debate their particular desires in PM land.... :)

Joe

Who's 'cable' ... is she nice ?

Nice and bendy!!!

I am regularly affected by the condition known as Empty Room Syndrome or as its sometimes known as Hide & Seek Disease. I cannot imagine how debilitating this condition must be for people who live in stately homes or the arctic circle. I know several people who suffer regularly from ERS or HSD. I originally thought this condition only affected males but I was surprised to find females also suffer from these conditions too. It appears women who are asked if they suffer from ERS or HSD sometimes deny they are sufferers because when asked become affected by BRD (Bashful Response Disorder), a condition that prevents them answering truthfully. The most significant symptom of ERS/HSD is technically known as ICP (Induced Cutter Perspiration). This can only be allieviated by a procedure called ALC or Actually Laying Cable. ALC is not recommended for use in ERS due to enviromental issues but is perfectly suited to HSD, although it may reveal your location. So remember, if your male ERS/HSD = ICP = ALC. And if your female then it is ERS/HSD = BRD = ICP = ALC. I hope the above information has given you a much better understanding of the subject.

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
I am regularly affected by the condition known as Empty Room Syndrome or as its sometimes known as Hide & Seek Disease. I cannot imagine how debilitating this condition must be for people who live in stately homes or the arctic circle. I know several people who suffer regularly from ERS or HSD. I originally thought this condition only affected males but I was surprised to find females also suffer from the condition too. It appears women who are asked if they suffer from ERS or HSD sometimes deny they are sufferers because when asked become affected by BRD (Bashful Response Disorder). A condition the prevents them answering truthfully. The most significant symptom of ERS/HSD is technically known as ICP (Induced Cutter Perspiration). This can only be allieviated by a procedure called ALC or Actually Laying Cable. ALC is not recommended for use in ERS due to enviromental issues but is perfectly suited to HSD. So remember, if your male ERS/HSD = ICP = ALC, that is of course unless your female then it is ERS/HSD = BRD = ICP = ALC. I hope the above information has given you a much better understanding of the subject.
Are you for real? :confused: I've never felt more confused.

Would anyone else like to respond in English?

I have read a couple of fascinating articles on ERS, and am surprised to discover that at least one or two of you seem to have heard of it.

Apparently it is more common in males but in some areas - paricularly in Eastern Europe - the percentage of affected women is much, much higher.

The condition was discovered in Latin America in the eighties by Valazquez Bosano. The phenomena is often refered to as 'the plain-size-up systema'.

The tell-tale signs that you may have contracted the condition are of a feeling of 'general roominess' in the peripheral digestive tracts and a sense of 'denseness' within the short-term consciousness.

Little is known about the cause of it.

In Vietnam the The People's Liberation Armed Forces (PLAF) more popularly known as the Viet Cong (VC) regularly suffered from HSD and had to resort to ALC to allieviate ICP. American soldiers also suffered from ICP but for altogether different reasons. Apparently American soldiers would ALC spontaneously without being given the chance to reposition their military attire.
Above information donated by the Vietnam Veterans Association

anyone care to enlighten us in English? Is this a kind of bleakness?

it was first diagnosed by Dr Jean-Marie Syndroma in Paris in the 1930's a man famous for other work with einstien notably 'the cake effect' and a dangerous teenage disorder 'Harmster/billiox disease' He first recognised the 'empty room syndrome' in a female patient Lilly de goi, One of the symtoms described in jean-marie journal is ' a feeling of subtlety before the patient encounters the major effect of momentariness' Lilly also describes that ers patients are often smaller than the space they crave. and in many cases feel more insencitive than ever. Syndroma finished his work on the little known disorder and retired to his lake side retreat in hungary. In 1966 he recieved the Luis pastor award for milking.

I hope this enlightens you all still further

Originally posted by robbie
anyone care to enlighten us in English? Is this a kind of bleakness?

I think we are being wound up Robbie! :rolleyes: :D

K x

Im well confused!? :confused: :suspect: :help:

It's a wind-up ..... :loopy:

Nevermind empty room syndrome, what on earth is Trever's avatar meant to be?? :o :suspect: :hihi: :P

I can assure you ERS and HSD are both very real conditions that arise from a combination of stimuli applied to the sensory apparatus resulting in a physical manifestation known as ICP.

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
I can assure you ERS and HSD are both very real conditions that arise from a combination of stimuli applied to the sensory apparatus resulting in a physical manifestation known as ICP.

State your source

Originally posted by TracieJC
Nevermind empty room syndrome, what on earth is Trever's avatar meant to be?? :o :suspect: :hihi: :P

I've had PMs about that avatar. So far suggestions have been :

Big tummy.
Pregnant tummy.
Breast.

There are other things but they start to get rather rude....

Perhaps it's a Rorschach test....you see what your mind prepares you to see....:)

Joe

TracieJC..I believe Trevers avatar is in fact the enlarged saclike portion of the alimentary canal, one of the principal organs of digestion, located in vertebrates between the esophagus and the small intestine. In this case however it appears to be protuberant.

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
TracieJC..I believe Trevers avatar is in fact the enlarged saclike portion of the alimentary canal, one of the principal organs of digestion, located in vertebrates between the esophagus and the small intestine. In this case however it appears to be protuberant.

Roughly translated as "beer belly"

Originally posted by miniminch
it was first diagnosed by Dr Jean-Marie Syndroma in Paris in the 1930's a man famous for other work with einstien notably 'the cake effect' and a dangerous teenage disorder 'Harmster/billiox disease' He first recognised the 'empty room syndrome' in a female patient Lilly de goi, One of the symtoms described in jean-marie journal is ' a feeling of subtlety before the patient encounters the major effect of momentariness' Lilly also describes that ers patients are often smaller than the space they crave. and in many cases feel more insencitive than ever. Syndroma finished his work on the little known disorder and retired to his lake side retreat in hungary. In 1966 he recieved the Luis pastor award for milking.

I hope this enlightens you all still further

I was under the impression that Sydroma only carried out secondary studies after all the groundwork was done by Bosano.

It's interesting to note that a person can have a craving to enter a space which they cannot possibly fit into.

A recent study in Holland showed that almost 2% of teenagers questioned said that they had experienced this desire at some time at least once in the previous year.

Another classic symptom is the delusion that a room containing furniture, ornaments, etc, is an empty shell. In severe cases, a sufferer may even perceive the room to be an outdoor scene such as a meadow or a lake.

Originally posted by Sam Miguel

Another classic symptom is the delusion that a room containing furniture, ornaments, etc, is an empty shell. In severe cases, a sufferer may even perceive the room to be an outdoor scene such as a meadow or a lake.

That's Ambi-Pure air fresheners for you:rolleyes:

Must admit to losing the 'thread' of this thread about the middle of post #1.:suspect:

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
TracieJC..I believe Trevers avatar is in fact the enlarged saclike portion of the alimentary canal, one of the principal organs of digestion, located in vertebrates between the esophagus and the small intestine. In this case however it appears to be protuberant.

I thought it was a breast :P

Originally posted by JoePritchard

Perhaps it's a Rorschach test....you see what your mind prepares you to see....:)


Oh dear :o :P :D

In a recent study by Professor Antonio Benedetti on the Gladiators of ancient Rome, evidence found at the Roman coliseum suggests the gladiators regularly suffered from ERS and if they were fortunate HSD. Samples collected even pointed to definate occurences of ALC. However the presence of ALC in the actual arena of the coliseum may have been attributed to the presence of Lions and not to the general emptyness of the structure.

Originally posted by Sam Miguel
I was under the impression that Sydroma only carried out secondary studies after all the groundwork was done by Bosano.

It's interesting to note that a person can have a craving to enter a space which they cannot possibly fit into.

A recent study in Holland showed that almost 2% of teenagers questioned said that they had experienced this desire at some time at least once in the previous year.

Another classic symptom is the delusion that a room containing furniture, ornaments, etc, is an empty shell. In severe cases, a sufferer may even perceive the room to be an outdoor scene such as a meadow or a lake.

I think you may be correct on your first point ive just checked. I would like to thank you for exposing my ignorance in front of a sizable sheffield populace -

you are also correct about the extent of suffering in which the room appears to be a meadow - this i believe is known as JAS (Julie Andrews syndrome). The secondary symtoms appear to be severe brusing as the patient deluded by space attempts to run across the meadow whist spinning round. there have been reports of patients having a JAS attack and them waking up in an ornemental cabinet.

thanks once again for correcting me

Originally posted by miniminch
I think you may be correct on your first point ive just checked. I would like to thank you for exposing my ignorance in front of a sizable sheffield populace -

you are also correct about the extent of suffering in which the room appears to be a meadow - this i believe is known as JAS (Julie Andrews syndrome). The secondary symtoms appear to be severe brusing as the patient deluded by space attemps to run across the meadow whist spinning round. there have been reports of patients having a JAS attack and them waking up in a ornemental cabinet.

thanks once again for correcting me

Please! Consider it a privelidge for enlightening me upon several facts re the syndrome which were, prior to this gripping debate, unknown to me.

Yes, JAS attacks. Thankfully treatment for this unfortunate behavioural flaw is now widely available in the form of a 'punch in the mouth' which almost always does the trick, so to speak

ok can sum1 help me please.......

what the hell do these mean!

ERS?????
HSD?????
ICP?????
JAS?????
ALC?????

is it just me who doesnt have the foggiest idea what these mean?

oh and after reading all these posts and being confused about what all those mean im even more confused about what empty room syndrome is!

anyone care to explain?

:help: :help: :help:

Not me,....I failed my 11 plus :( :( :(

Hmmmm well where shall I start :rolleyes:

no gobbledigoop plz, i would like to understand!

Originally posted by saxon51
Not me,....I failed my 11 plus :( :( :(

AND that's really me in my avatar.:blush:

Originally posted by TracieJC
I thought it was a breast :P


So did I Tracie

x-Louise-x I think it means ,what can you do in an empty room? Nothing just sit down on the floor and sleep or day dream.I think it"s a form of depression. I have a friend who somtimes sits in a chair all day ,just can 't think of anything to do.

Originally posted by peterdo
x-Louise-x I think it means ,what can you do in an empty room? Nothing just sit down on the floor and sleep or day dream.I think it"s a form of depression. I have a friend who somtimes sits in a chair all day ,just can 't think of anything to do.

In our house it's referred to as 'peace and quiet without the kids'.

Originally posted by saxon51
In our house it's referred to as 'peace and quiet without the kids'.



Now THAT i do understand :clap:

Trevers avatar - I thought it was 'A Right T*t' ???

Here's a Glossary of terms for you:

ERS - Empty Room Syndrome
HSD - Hide & Seek Disease
ICP - Induced Cutter Perspiration
JAS - Julie Andrews Syndrome
ALC - Actually Laying Cable

Originally posted by x_LoUiSe_x
no gobbledigoop plz, i would like to understand!

x_LoUiSe_x - They are winding you up. Geddit now? You're not supposed to understand Hon!

K x

Wow thanks for all the info. My avatar is actually my belly which I a quite proud of.

It seems some of you don't really understand the "laying of cable" bit, so here are some more common terms;

Having a "turnout"
Sitting down and smiling
Going for a "muslim"

Anyone know of anymore please feel free to add to this list.

Originally posted by Trever
Wow thanks for all the info. My avatar is actually my belly which I a quite proud of.

It seems some of you don't really understand the "laying of cable" bit, so here are some more common terms;

Having a "turnout"
Sitting down and smiling
Going for a "muslim"

Anyone know of anymore please feel free to add to this list.

Think you'll find this (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30782&highlight=farting%2A) thread enjoyable Trever! :thumbsup:

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
Think you'll find this (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30782&highlight=farting%2A) thread enjoyable Trever! :thumbsup:

K x

It was that thread that started me off on this thread. lol :)

Originally posted by TracieJC
I thought it was a breast :P


I thought it looked vaguely familiar :rolleyes:

forget all this empty room twaddle! after looking at the link on MrH's site ...I wanna fly a helicopter!!!!!:clap:

ps - some of you lot must have seen some pretty weird breasts to think that Trevers avatar was one!!! If it is then it must be suffering from INS (Inverted Nipple Syndrome). Thats definitiely a belly and a bloomin great, beer-stuffed, ugly one at that!:gag:

It's been a while!! ;)

All those who are not too clear about ERS – its causes, symptoms and effects – may like to read this brief article which I found on a page from the BMA Journal which my chips were wrapped in last night.

It is by one Doctor Erich von Schtumpfnagel of Klompenstumper University, Bad Gout, Germany.

The article is titled -

Big Room. No Pals. Bored as Buggery.

ERS can be summarised by relating it to similar conditions such as ELS, IBM, DFS and to a lesser extent, CBBC. Research has shown that the sufferer is approximately 73.576% more likely to contract ERS in conjunction with one or more of these other conditions, and 100% of these sufferers will, in time, find themselves talking to an ‘imaginary friend’. This is referred to as IFS [Imaginary Friend Syndrome] and is not confined to ERS alone, but can afflict a minority of bus passengers. IFS seems to be more prevalent in the once-industrial regions of North Western Europe. Research by the SFC [Sheffield Forum Chinwaggers] which was carried out over several minutes in the latter half 2004 at a cost of 23p appears to prove that IFS is definitely on the increase on half-empty buses, and if present trends continue will double by the end of 2005.

Further evidence shows that the links between ERS and CBBC may be more prevalent in people who have children aged 3-11. Symptoms include the sufferer having a desire to be on their own in a room, isolated from their children, and in turn isolated from the causes of CBBC. In these cases, ERS becomes, in the mind of the patient, the lesser of the two evils.

The same basic diagnostic procedures apply in all the aforementioned cases. Dr Hertz van Rental of Ruud Gitz College, Holland carried out secret experiments on Aphids in October 2004 and found, to his utter surprise that Cranial dismagrillation, Lobe fractersity, Sensory hyperglaxcoma (although not related to ERS or DFS directly) and Visual intertexity are all clearly observed symptoms.

‘At this moment in time ERS has no real cure,’ said Dr van Rental, ‘but if we can eradicate IFS and CBBC then maybe IBM, and to a lesser extent DFS, will eventually confine themselves to pre-ITV and ITV(2) sufferers alone’.


Hoping this clarifies things for you all.

saxon51

isnt CBBC a kids channel :P

oh and i now may know what they all stand for but i still dont have the foggiest what they actually mean! :loopy:

Originally posted by x_LoUiSe_x
isnt CBBC a kids channel :P

oh and i now may know what they all stand for but i still dont have the foggiest what they actually mean! :loopy:

Fear not x_LoUiSe_x (Christ, that took some typing!), I've looked them all up in my Observers Book of Initials - £1.99 from WHSmiths - for you.:thumbsup:

ERS - Empty Room Syndrome (see thread)

ELS - Empty Loom Syndlome (Chinese equivalent)

IBM - I've Been Mugged (formally International Business Machines)

DFS - Basically an unhealthy attraction to cheap furniture outlets selling naff sofas.

CBBC - Children's Brains Become Coddled (self explanatory)

ITV - Independent Tele-Vision (A trance-like state)

ITV2 - Same as above, but twice as bad.

IFS - Imaginary Friend Syndrome (The bloke - usually - who sits next to you on an empty bus)

Hope that's clear:|


By the way, you can get a copy of 'Observers Book of Initials' AND a copy of 'Observers Book of Famous Welshmen' for £3.50 the pair while stocks last.

yeah thanx :clap:

Perhaps its another form of empty life syndrome - although sufferers can exist in romms which are full and have lives which appear to others as being full also.

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
TracieJC..I believe Trevers avatar is in fact the enlarged saclike portion of the alimentary canal, one of the principal organs of digestion, located in vertebrates between the esophagus and the small intestine. In this case however it appears to be protuberant.

Is this a clue to 'Empty Room Syndrome?'

Yes Ruby, certain references in that post are directly related to the subject of ERS/HSD.

Originally posted by Trever
My avatar is actually my belly which I a quite proud of.



Thank goodness for that. Iwas worried it was another part of your anatomy minus the pullover! :shocked:

Originally posted by Trever
Wow thanks for all the info. My avatar is actually my belly which I a quite proud of.



Let's face it; Its a "Titty-Tum!:hihi:

I haven't had an attack of ERS in some years but I believe this is mainly due to avoiding the stimulus which induces an attack. For me the severest attacks always happened "in situ" - empty room of an empty house, no furntiure or carpets. This always induced severs ICP. I also experienced this phenomenon as a child whilst playing "2 Man Hunt", an altogether more tactical, stealthier version of Hide & Seek. I would imagine that symptoms in this scencario were similar, albeit less severe or traumatic, as those faced by American soldiers and the VC during the Vietnam War. However, I must impress, a severe attack of ERS/HSD which brings about ICP to the point that ALC becomes almost an involuntary action, is extremely debilitating and traumatizing for a child especially when no suitable spot can be found quickly enough to alleviate the symptoms. :o

Looks like I missed some $#!£ threads whilst I was away :hihi: