Is anyone going to be watching the new series of Doctor Who which starts at 7 PM on BBC1 this Saturday?

I probably will, having grown up with 4 out of 7 of the original Doctors, namely Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy... You could argue that the list includes Paul McGann but IMO he doesn't count as a Doctor as he wasn't in the original series and only played the Doc once in the 1995 TV movie.

I only liked John Petwee and Tom Baker, all the others were rubbish.

I'll be watching it though.

Sylvester McCoy era had Sophie Aldred as Ace though, I used to, and still do fancy her loads, she looked HOT in black.

Sure I will be watching it, I used to like it a lot, but I'm not sure what to expect this time round...

I expect to be let down with my Dr Who expectations. However, I think Mr Eccleston and Miss Piper (or is that Mrs Evans) are excellent actors with presence and with a half-decent script there should be something good to watch.

I feel sorry for the pubs that night as I think there will be a lot of people staying in to watch this first episode and I'll be one of them. The trailers that have been shown make it look as though the wobbly scenery and the awful special effects are going to be a thing of the past which can only be good.
I still say that the program took a nose dive with the appearance of Tom Baker and the clowns that folowed him so I just hope this new series will be as dark and scary as William Hartnell was when the program first appeared.

S P O I L E R A L E R T !!!!!!!!

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If you have ever seen the episode of classic who in which the Nestines feature, you should know what to expect (For your information, I am on about the Shop Dummies episodes), for that is what the first episode is about, Christopher Eccleston is pretty good as the Dr, although, I would need to see some more episodes to see if he is any good in the role.

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Spoiler over

If you REALLY like Dr Who, they are doing a load of Dr Who stuff all day long on UK Gold until 7pm which is when the new dr who is on, then on BBC3 they are doing a Dr Who revealed thing.

After watching the first episode I think they've done a fantastic job of bring the Doctor back to our screens. It's scary, funny, well-scripted and well-acted.

(It's also all over the net if you can't wait).

I think that the pubs will continue to be empty till around about 8pm ;)

but let's see what happens :)

SoI've watched it now and found it quite entertaining. however, I do have some reservations, but won't mention them until tomorrow after it's been shown on TV. wouldn't want to ruin it for anybody. ;)

Well,

I've seen it and have to say that my hopes and fears were both met!

The effects were good, Christopher Ecclestone suitably eccentric. Billie Piper was OK.

But the script - oh Lord. It struck me as being rather patchy and rushed. Would have been better spreading it over two weeks, rather than one. Or do a two hour series starter a la Star Trek. There was also an element of 'knowing' about the script that didn't fit that well, but I'm willing to apply my Rule of Serial TV and allow another episode or two to see whether it grips me.

There were some parts of the script that just didn't work - the 'UFO Nut' character was a waste of script space. Didn't progress the story or the lead characters. Rose taking her mum's phone call whilst in the Nestene 'base'? Please! That's ridiculous. If the script can be 'pulled in' a bit and written to be less self concious I reckon it'll work.

But we wait and see.

Joe

the 'UFO Nut' character was a waste of script space.

I had the impression this guy was a nod towards the hardcore Dr Who fans (Whovians? Can't quite remember what they call themselves). I don't know why, but I had the impression that he was meant to represent them.

I think it was a pretty good start. Slightly too much humour, possibly, but generally it looks very promising. Not quite sure about the concept of the stretchy skin lady (is it right she's meant to have had too many face lifts? Sounds a bit naff to me), but we'd see.

I don't think Billie Piper is heading for Hollywood as the writer claims - her bum is too big and she has a touch of the Jade Goodies about her. Not Hollywood fodder at all.

Well i will try applying the rule of Serial TV, and watch another episode or two but that one was painful to watch in places :(.

I thought it was OK - but unless my memory deceives me, Doctor Who used to have something called a plot, which this didn't. Otherwise I'm prepared to give it another watch for the next episode or two. It wasn't the utter disaster I'd feared at least.

Following Dr Who, I then flicked channels and found myself watching the first episode of 'Farscape'.

So, with Dr Who you have an existing franchise, main character already partially defined. With Farscape you have new characters, new universe, new everything.

The Farscape script beat the pants of the Dr Who script.

Watching Farscape has left me rather less sanguine about the future of Dr Who unless they really pull their fingers out with the writing.

Joe

I give it a 5 out of 10 - it had a good beat and you could dance to it! Ermmm OK maybe not - but amusing if predictable - certainly rather better than I was fearing!

I thought it was abit of a mish-mash script. The plot was pants and the acting was over the top and I would like to know why Billie Piper would have such a goon for a boyfriend????? . . . ok, before you say it - I know she went out with Chris Evans!

I was really looking forward to Dr Who, especially remembering the great dark & atmospheric episodes from the past. This unfortunately was below par.

Also, did anyone notice the music was different! I thought they were going to keep the old theme??... it was jazzed up!

Originally posted by Ant
I had the impression this guy was a nod towards the hardcore Dr Who fans (Whovians? Can't quite remember what they call themselves). I don't know why, but I had the impression that he was meant to represent them.

I think it was a pretty good start. Slightly too much humour, possibly, but generally it looks very promising. Not quite sure about the concept of the stretchy skin lady (is it right she's meant to have had too many face lifts? Sounds a bit naff to me), but we'd see.


Well - Christopher Eccleston's shaping up very well as the new doctor, and Billie Piper's not bad as the new assistant.

Other than that .....

The script was very self-conscious and the 'humour' didn't fit in at all well. I thought the 'Whovian' character was really taking the michael out of Dr Who fans - the JFK assassination photo was just too much.

There was no love there and it was cringingly embarrassing in places. Nor did it seem to know if it was aiming at kids or adults.

Let's have a story next time .....

5/10 purely for Christopher Eccleston.

StarSparkle :|

Originally posted by JoeP
Following Dr Who, I then flicked channels and found myself watching the first episode of 'Farscape'.

So, with Dr Who you have an existing franchise, main character already partially defined. With Farscape you have new characters, new universe, new everything.

The Farscape script beat the pants of the Dr Who script.

Watching Farscape has left me rather less sanguine about the future of Dr Who unless they really pull their fingers out with the writing.

Joe

And so the merry-go-round comes back to Farscape again and once again i'll say Farscape is without doubt the best sci-fi series made in modern times(IMO), and like Joe points out. If Farscape couldn't survive, Dr Who will need a miracle to succeed (based on this first episode obviously)

And there's more.....

That whole stuff with the Whovian just gets worse the more I think about it.

If they were going to do something with such a character they could have had him digging stuff out about the Doctor and his involvement with UNIT and similar things in previous years - sort of establishing a link to the Jon Pertwee / Tom Baker years. They might have even saved him for a whole episode - sort of like 'The Lone Gunmen' in The X Files.

When I heard some time ago that Russell T Davis was to be involved in the script writing I was a little worried, because I would have preferred a writer grounded in serial science fiction to get the thing off the ground.

I need to get a life....:)

Joe

Disappointing start to this new series and the story wasn't even original. The dummies came to life in the same way in a series perhaps 35 years ago.

Will watch again next week to see if things improve.

What's even worse with the Autons is that they just about repeated the scenes when the mannequins came out of the windows shot for shot (pun unintended).

The original series was one of the Jon Pertwee ones, I think, and I seem to remember that questions were raised in the House of Commons about whether it was suitable viewing for children.

And how the devil did Billie Piper's boyfriend get from the dustbin to the alien base? And how did the Tardis get there? Oh heck....here I go again....

Joe

Maybe the mutant wheelie bin WAS the alien base? :lol:

I liked it for the most part [not the interior of the TARDIS] We're all going to be comparing it with our favorite doctor and it had to start somewhere and give us a good introduction to the new characters. The special effects have definitely improved and I just hope and pray K9 doesn't put in an appearance. I also liked the humour and would like to bet that the younger audience it is aimed at will of enjoyed it and will probably be eyeing up the window mannequins suspiciously next time they're out shopping with their mum! I'm also hoping this new assistant wont be as brain dead as many of the doctors previous ones were, i.e. the doctor tells them not to do something and they immediately go and do it,[those annoying screams of terror from more than a few of the assistants] I'm going to be watching next week with the emergenct rations behind the sofa ready for when the Daleks appear.

I liked the Tardis interior - and I'd agree that it had to start somewhere but the script wasn't up to it.

You can write a script to appeal to younger viewers whilst still making it a solid piece of work that flows and has structure, plot and not too many holes.

I've just realised that the reason I'm a little wound up about this script is that I actually care about Dr Who as a programme. The humour didn't work for me; it was too forced and didn't really flow from the situation. The line involving Heat magazine was pretty good, though! :)

The writers had about 45 minutes to play with - losing some of the humour, that dreadul Whovian, the 'Eastenders' set where Rose lived - would have probably given them about 5 to 10 minutes extra to use to get the plot tightened up.

Joe

You only liked the inside of the tardis because it reminds you of Moya (sp) Joe :hihi:

Originally posted by vidster
You only liked the inside of the tardis because it reminds you of Moya (sp) Joe :hihi:

Yes! I was trying to think what the tardis reminded me of! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by vidster
You only liked the inside of the tardis because it reminds you of Moya (sp) Joe :hihi:

Good point!

To me the Tardis should be brass and Victorian inside. Lots of chunky analogue dials and brass fittings - sort of like George Pal's 'Time Machine' (the 1950s version, not the recent abomination). Sort of retro.... :)

The 'Millenium' Dr Who Tardis was excellent!

Joe

Good grief, yes, what has he done to the Tardis interior? Walls are for running cables behind, not for draping over. And where's the airlock gone?!?

At least there's some seats in the control room now. I couldn't imagine having to stand up for the whole journey - done that too many times on GNER ;)

Best bits:
Flicking through Heat magazine - "that won't work, she's gay and he's an alien"
- the Auton arm fighting the Doctor in the background with Rose oblivious.
- "it's a disguise - it's a 1950s call box" - didn't he sound a bit like Johnny from Two Pints there?

Definitely better than the movie. Worth giving it a few more episodes.

Oh, and Billie Piper's boyfriend? What a twonk. I hope that he's not going to make regular appearances - her mother was irritating as well. Why replace the screaming girlie sidekicks only to drop in an equally annoying boy? Unless it was a last minute memo from the Beeb's board requesting a token black? Whatever the reason, he should have been melted by the Liquid Plastic people.

(And someone should lose their job for screwing things up with Graham Norton's whining voice making three appearances).

What happened to the ending? I'm used to cliff hangers where you wonder what's going to happen next. The restaurant at the end of the universe? Seems familiar.

Otherwise not a bad start.

Originally posted by Ant

(And someone should lose their job for screwing things up with Graham Norton's whining voice making three appearances).

Thank you.

I knew I wasn't imagining it.

Got to say that the wheelie bin CGI was well done, if a little tacky.

I thought it was my DVD recorder screwing up at first. I was all for binning a perfectly good DVD/RW until i read this thread again :thumbsup:

OK. So it's not strictly dedicated to Sheffield but I guess alot of people in the city saw the first episode of the new Doctor Who series. I did myself but was not overly impressed. I wonder what other people thought. Its on at a strange time as well, beyond the traditional 'children's hour' and before the majority of grown ups would sit down to watch.

Now, if I were the doctor, I would get the lottery results on a Saturday night, turn the TARDIS back to 7.15pm go into a lottery outlet and put those numbers on, then retire.

I for one very much enjoyed it. There's another thread on Doctor Who here: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=342602

Originally posted by hotphil
I for one very much enjoyed it. There's another thread on Doctor Who here: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=342602

MOD: Threads merged

Well I quite enjoyed it.

Just like LOTR or any pre-existing British institution it is gonna get a hammering from the geeks.

I hardly watch TV cos there is much crap on it, but I will be watching it next week.

Oh, that and Nathan Barley, that is soooo gooood :clap:

I thought it was good family entertainment. Remember, Doctor Who is supposed to be so bad it's good.

That's the whole point.

pretty bad imo. I'm not a doctor Who fan and this seemed so contrived to make it feel like the old ones.

I can't believe people didn't enjoy it. Picking at plot holes is like shooting fish in a barrel - it's Doctor Who, for goodness' sake! It's supposed to be ridiculous (and yet, strangely frightening, in a disconnected kind of way). It was a resounding success as far as I could see.

Russel T Davies, the writer, may or may not be grounded in the sort of turgid sci-fi (this is coming from an SF fan) that's aired on Sky One every hour of every day, but he is actually a Who nut, and knows how to write a funny - and, on the evidence, fairly dramatic - script.

The nods to the past, the humourous touches, the excellent action scenes, the fantastic casting: what's not to like for a cracking piece of Saturday night entertainment?

At least it's better than Casualty or Who wants to be a Millionaire etc that makes up the usual Saturday night "entertainment" (and I use the term VERY loosely).

Not impressed with his wooden dialogue with the 'nesting consciousness'
However, more than willing to watch two or three more to see how gells :)

I thought the new Doctor Who was brilliant. It is no good expecting it to follow the old format. New audiences wont like it. It was pacy, modern and that is what is needed.

The conspiracy theory nut may not be dead. We have not seen a body. Give it time. We have good actors and a good script.

It was nice to sit down on Saturday night and it felt like a good old Saturday night used to be. I have watched all the Whos from the beginning with Hartnell and I liked the new in a different way. We must not be too precious. Times change.
Just enjoy.

I heard today that christopher ecclestone has said that he will not be doing another series /??


Whats that all about then??

'Fraid so!

Mr E. is afraid of being typecast. I get the feel that he didn't expect the BBC to commission the second series so quickly - on Saturday's showing neither did I....:)

Joe

Originally posted by Greenback
I can't believe people didn't enjoy it. Picking at plot holes is like shooting fish in a barrel - it's Doctor Who, for goodness' sake! It's supposed to be ridiculous (and yet, strangely frightening, in a disconnected kind of way). It was a resounding success as far as I could see.

Russel T Davies, the writer, may or may not be grounded in the sort of turgid sci-fi (this is coming from an SF fan) that's aired on Sky One every hour of every day, but he is actually a Who nut, and knows how to write a funny - and, on the evidence, fairly dramatic - script.

The nods to the past, the humourous touches, the excellent action scenes, the fantastic casting: what's not to like for a cracking piece of Saturday night entertainment?

Of course we pick holes in the plot!

These guys are paid a large amount of money to write scripts - our money. For that we should be able to expect a script that is slightly superior to that expected by a 'fan fiction' writer.

Being knowing, self-referental and funny is no substitute for a story with some plot, rather than a series of scenes jammed together.

Grump over.

Joe

Heard on the news that Dr Who has resigned.
He will not make another series!

Yeah but the replacement looks like a doctor, unlike C.E. Shouldnt of casted him in the first place IMO

So you know who the replacement is? Share it! I'm in the dark.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/blackpool/david_tennant.shtml

David Tennant! :)

I think Dylan Moran would make a Excellent doctor though

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9615/Dylan.jpg

Ta. Can't say I've heard of him. Dylan Moran, though - good call.

I think JoeP would make a superb Doctor Who. He would travel through time and space, spreading wisdom, healing intergalactic rifts and battling grotesque monsters [well, he did a good job on the now closed Politics forum]. He would be the first Doctor with a Nottinghamshire accent!

Nice idea Timo, who would you suggest as his assistant? I vote Kristian... I think he'd enjoy running round in fancy gear (check out his new "tennis-look" avatar), and wresting baddies!

Originally posted by feargal
Nice idea Timo, who would you suggest as his assistant? I vote Kristian... I think he'd enjoy running round in fancy gear (check out his new "tennis-look" avatar), and wresting baddies!

Wow! Me and JoeP against the world! :D What a fearsome combination!

Not sure I want to follow in Billie Piper's footsteps though. Not after last time! After my career in pop failed, it was hard coming out of the limelight. I did get 'papped' by the paparazzi again last week, so look out for me in next weeks Heat magazine wearing a shell suit, and eating a chip butty outside Castle Market! Blimmin' Britney Spears, she told me that it would be a good disguise. That's the last time I invite her and Kevin around for fondue and a game of Twister!

K x

I thought it was alright myself. Will be watching again and can't wait for the daleks! As for everyone on here slagging it off, just give it a chance, remember the first episode was just that, the first episode. They had to bring rose and the doctor together somehow and introduce the concepts and characters. Now that's out the way, they can concentrate on the plots and I expect it will get loads better.

Never been a big sci-fi fan myself, but I thought the new series was OK. I think having eye-candy Christopher Ecclestone in it helped, but David Tenant is equally dishy, so I might even watch it again!

Originally posted by JoeP
Of course we pick holes in the plot!

These guys are paid a large amount of money to write scripts - our money. For that we should be able to expect a script that is slightly superior to that expected by a 'fan fiction' writer.

Being knowing, self-referental and funny is no substitute for a story with some plot, rather than a series of scenes jammed together.

I disagree. I thought the script was excellent, and struck exactly the right note for a programme that has always been, in essence, escapist nonsense. Doctor Who has never been serious Science Fiction and never will be - I guess the point of the paranoid conspiracy theorist was a shot at those who take the series a little too literally.

I love a good plot as much as the next man, but on a Saturday night I don't want my brain working too hard.

I want evil monsters! And a cool TARDIS! And funny bits! And explosions! All four boxes ticked, then. :thumbsup:

How did Plastic invading monsters fire from metal guns inside the manequins? Where did these come from?

Maybe Jacko could use these monsters as his defence... :D

So how will they write Christopher Ecclestone out of the show when its already been filmed and if you go on the BBC Doctor Who website they are filming a Christmas 1 hour special.

Series one is finished and the Xmas Special is in production. (He said he will film the special and leave) I assume the special will be the doc changing to the new one.

I tend to agree with Greenback, it was good for what it's meant to be.

When I was a kid my dad thought Dr Who was rubbish...

...now I'm my dads age, at least I didn't think this new series was rubbish. So it must be an improvement.



On a different note, this
Originally posted by feargal
...his assistant? I vote Kristian... I think he'd enjoy running round in fancy gear, and wresting baddies!
really caught my eye, y'see, on a different forum I frequent, the witty gay dude (well the one that's really like K. anyway) goes by the name "BaddyB".

The idea of Kristian wrestling Baddy, well, you can imagine...

;)

I always thought it was odd when he was being interviewed about being the doctor. He kept saying "in the next series I - or whoever the next doctor will be -" so I suppose all the signs were there.

Thinks: we're discussing Dr Who Christmas specials. We're Whovians. My God, I'm turning into Comic Book Man.

Originally posted by Ant
My God, I'm turning into Comic Book Man.

Good grief. it's Comic Book GUY, as EVERYBODY knows.

*turns to page 37 of Simpsons Episode Guide: Volume 2*

;)

Originally posted by foo_fighter
I
on a different forum I frequent, the witty gay dude (well the one that's really like K. anyway) goes by the name "BaddyB".

The idea of Kristian wrestling Baddy, well, you can imagine...

;)

Hey, I'm not wrestling with anyone! Not unless there's money in it for me, I don't have to mix the mud myself, or bring my own sequinned g-string. I've been caught like that before! :blush:

K x

Originally posted by timo
I think JoeP would make a superb Doctor Who. He would travel through time and space, spreading wisdom, healing intergalactic rifts and battling grotesque monsters [well, he did a good job on the now closed Politics forum]. He would be the first Doctor with a Nottinghamshire accent!

Fantastic idea, Timo - love it! :thumbsup:

Joe's even got the mad hair! (Joke!)

And Kristian as the doc's sidekick - brilliant! I'd watch it! (Especially if Joe got to write the script as well ....)

StarSparkle - hoping the BBC are listening .....

Cheers Timo!

I just hope Kristian runs slower than I do....that way when on the run from the baddies I just need to outrun Kristian and not jet-assisted Daleks....:)

And....as for the hair....I'll have the forum know that I've had it cut since the photo in the Star! :D

Joe

Originally posted by JoeP
I just hope Kristian runs slower than I do....that way when on the run from the baddies I just need to outrun Kristian and not jet-assisted Daleks....:)

Stop saying baddies please, I've already explained why. ;)

I MISSED IT! I thought there would be a rerun but I can't find it! IS there any way I can still watch the first episode? We thought we'd recorded it but it didn't work.

I'd wanted to watch it before the 2nd one.

:(

Originally posted by StarSparkle
Fantastic idea, Timo - love it! :thumbsup:

Joe's even got the mad hair! (Joke!)

And Kristian as the doc's sidekick - brilliant! I'd watch it! (Especially if Joe got to write the script as well ....)

StarSparkle - hoping the BBC are listening .....

Hey StarSparkle! I could write scripts too you know! I'm not just a pretty face! (Well not even a pretty face if truth be known!) :D

K x

It's OK Kristian,

I wouldn't be able to fit in writing for Dr Who until after I've done the two sitcom pilots that my nascent film and media company are shooting in the summer.

Although....if I wrote a Dr Who script and sold it....it might pay for the two pilots... :)

Joe

Can I be a malevolent bad guy - awwwwwww g'wan - I've always wanted a velvet suit and a tissue compression eliminator!!!!

Originally posted by valleygirl
I MISSED IT! I thought there would be a rerun but I can't find it! IS there any way I can still watch the first episode? We thought we'd recorded it but it didn't work.

I'd wanted to watch it before the 2nd one.

:(

I'm not sure if I can mention this or not, but it's available through the various file sharing channels. Sorry if i'm not allowed to mention this, but thought it'd be ok as it's a BBC prog (which we have all paid for anyway) and it's already been on.

It's only legal if the copyright holders have authorised it's release in that manner.

Please don't let's get further in to the rights and wrongs of file sharing / copying! :)

Joe

So......

What do you think?

True to the original concept? Interesting use of some ideas from other sci-fi's!
(I thought the Brittney song was a bit of a poke in the eye ;) )

There's already a Doctor Who thread in Entertainment Chat (I know cos it were me wot made it).

Where's a Mod when you need one to merge threads? :heyhey:

Right here - and as if by magic the threads are meged!!!!

:clap: I really thought "THE END OF THE WORLD" was excellent. I'm a Doctor Who Fan what do i know :thumbsup:

Having reserved judgement on the first episode, I really thought tonight's second one was pretty dreadful - no sensible plot (again) and a return to the excessive silliness that characterised the Sylvester McCoy years. Although there was always humour in Dr Who, the basis of the whole thing was always serious to begin with, and this wasn't. If you ask me the series is going downhill rapidly!

so back to Ant n Dec for you then ;) real grown up TV :help:

I enjoyed tonights episode but had to be careful to keep my young head on as otherwise I'd of found it childish.
Maybe this question will be answered in a later episode but how can he be the last Time Lord, after all they travel in time so why can't he go back and save a few of his cronies?
That's far too adult!!! I must stop.

Originally posted by Rich
There's already a Doctor Who thread in Entertainment Chat (I know cos it were me wot made it).

Where's a Mod when you need one to merge threads? :heyhey:

'Dr' and 'Who' are both too short to search on :(

Where's Geoff when you need him to move the goalposts? ;)

Oh deary, someone's in trouble !

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4410943.stm

So what do we think of this :

"The BBC confirmed it was in talks with actor David Tennant, the star of BBC3 drama Casanova, as a possible replacement for Eccleston. "

Casanova and Billie Piper - what a combination :P

Dr Who OMG, it's dire. They have completely destroyed the whole thing. Shan't be watching anymore.

Mo,


are you watching the same programme? It was excellent. Excellent script, superb acting and great on-location shooting.


I guess you can't please everyone. :(


Ady

This week's episode was much much better than last week's and I quite enjoyed this one - largely because it had a more serious storyline. Curiously the Billie Piper character has grown on me since the start of the series, whereas Eccleston's Doctor has had the opposite effect and is getting gradually more irritating; it's like seeing Dr Who played by somebody out of the Happy Mondays or whatever (and before anyone starts a 'Bez to play Dr Who' thread, no. Just no, OK?).

Unfortunately the trailer for next week shows what we had all feared - the return of the dopey boyfriend character who got eaten by the wheelie bin in the first episode.

A question asked by my mum about last nights episode.

Why was Rose in period costume and he wasn't?

Anyone have an answer?

OK, Here is my tuppence about Doctor Who.

I was an avid watcher as a child (Tom Baker to Peter Davison only), but I'm not a 'Whovian" or "hoover" or whatever it is that we call committed adult Doctor Who fans. (But that's not to deride those that are - science fiction is great).

Anyway: I love the programme and it's part of my childhood - yadi yadi ya... I reckon that's the way it is with a majority of adults. So a lot of adult non fans have a strong view on the new series.

Personally I've been loving it. I can see how it is finely balancing being a great new series for kids, but also catering for us lot. Now that's not easy. And I think that there are patchy moments, but I'll tell you what did it for me...

Half way through 'The End Of The World', Jabe the tree put her hand on the Doctor's arm and, talking about a terrible war, opened up a universe yet to be discovered.

There's a story arc. There's a b***dy story arc!!!!!

In other words; yes we will be getting weekly adventures that come and go, but Russel T Davies (the sly dog) has built in a back story that will reveal itslef slowly through each episode, (each season perhaps).

Thank goodness an intelligent writer got control of this series. Like I said before, I was an avid watcher as a child, now 20 years on, I am again.

Why wasn't the doctor in period costume?
If I heard it correctly he thought he looked fine in his normal garb and wouldn't stand out.
Anyway getting back to the important stuff, I'm thoroughly enjoying the series and like the way this latest doctor has some attributes very like Patrrick Troughton. Still hate the Tardis interior and I don't think that'll ever change. When it finishes though I'm having to remember to rush away to make a coffee so I don't see the highlights of the next episode.

Argh, I missed this week's episode on Saturday, and then b*ggered up the video and taped Antiques Roadshow instead of the BBC 3 repeat!!!

Does anyone know if it's repeated again before next Saturday?

Or - has anyone got a tape of it I could borrow?!

Thanks, guys!

JfG xx

Originally posted by Mo
Dr Who OMG, it's dire. They have completely destroyed the whole thing. Shan't be watching anymore.

I guess opinions are what make the forum what it is - even if they're completely, utterly, mind-bendingly, wrong! :)

Well I don't think it's perfect, and I wouldn't call myself a Dr Who fan (I'd say I'm more a casual viewer) but I've enjoyed it so far.

Charles Dickens quote for Ep 3

"What in the Shakespeares going on"

Bl**dy genius

Just seen that doctor who is coming out on DVD on May 16th - Play.com have the first disc for 10.99 of your hard-earned pounds :

1. Rose
2. The End Of The World
3. The Unquiet Dead

:thumbsup:

It's official! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/series.shtml)

What do fellow fans think? My own feeling is that, although I think Chris Eccleston is doing a really good job, he was already a face that I knew and as such I found it hard to believe he was the doctor. I had the same problem with Peter Davison - I remember thinking - you're not a timelord - you're a vet!

So I think David Tennant is a good choice as he's obviously a good actor but not hugely well-known yet, and he kind of looks a bit unhinged . . .

Yay! Happy viewing tonight! And another huge thank you to Jon, who sent me ep 3 after a hideous disaster occurred with my video last week. WHAT A NICE MAN!!!

JfG x

Should be good. Glad that there will be an Xmas special as well as the 13 episodes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4450285.stm

I thought that Eddie Izzard would have been an excellent choice, Im not really sure about this other bloke that they have picked.

Susie
xx

Originally posted by Susie
I thought that Eddie Izzard would have been an excellent choice, Im not really sure about this other bloke that they have picked.

Susie
xx

Agree with you there Susie I though Eddie would have made a great Doctor Who. Also thought that Craig Charles may have done a good job of it. All Doctors need a quirk about them, David Tennant's seems to be that he looks a pasty, skinny runt, not what the doctor ordered I think.

I never thought about craig doing it, but now you mention it, it all seems to make perfect sense, hey you never know, this new guy might decide he doesnt like it and want to be typecast either and make way for eddie or craig.

Susie
xx

I haven't really seen much of the new doctor who series yet. I think David Tenant is great though. I loved him in 'Blackpool' and more recently in 'Casanova'! I think he will make an excellent Dr!! :D

The turnaround time for Doctor's didn't used to be this quick did it? Isn't he only limited to so many re-image thingies meaning the final end will be in a few series'.

Looks a bit camp to me but we'll just have to wait and see.

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Originally posted by Trever
Looks a bit camp to me but we'll just have to wait and see.

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Episode 4 wasn't as good as episode 3, but at the same time it wasn't as bad a episode 2. It would have been OK without the continual insertion of utterly stupid material which just makes the whole thing look silly. This week it was the flatulent aliens, which was cringingly embarassingly dumb. Without that it would've been OK. At least it's a 2 (or more) parter with some sort of cliffhanger in the middle.

OMG it gets worse- a pig in a suit and farting politicians.

Originally posted by Mo
OMG it gets worse- a pig in a suit and farting politicians.

You been watching the election coverage again ?

I thought the slitheen were cool - made to look all cute and cuddly in the photos in TV guides etc, but utterly ruthless in the episode :thumbsup:

Hope they get Rose's boyfriend :loopy:

Doesn't the Doctor have a limited number of re-generations before he actually dies ?

Originally posted by nick2
Doesn't the Doctor have a limited number of re-generations before he actually dies ?

Yeah, he does, and, bloody hell, it's only 12!!!

That Eccleston has a lot to answer for - he's wasted 1/12 of the Doctor's life!!!!

I thought Izzard would have been fabulous in some ways - but I wouldn't have been able to see him as anything other than Eddie, and as I was saying earlier, I like the Doctor to be a bit of a blank slate when he comes to the role - not a vet or the most fabulous comedian who ever walked the earth - or anything else!!

JfG x

Originally posted by JoyfulGrrl
It's official! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/series.shtml)

So I think David Tennant is a good choice as he's obviously a good actor but not hugely well-known yet


He has done loads of stuff, most recently Blackpool and Casanova!

OK, the "pigs might fly" fake alien reference I could just about chortle at - but the farting Slitheen - pur-lease!! Strictly for the seven year olds, I think - although the series is far too terrifying for children, IMHO. Witness the shop models and the old dead lady possessed by the Gelth in the Dickens audience - EEK!!!
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


Yeah, and Rose's boyfriend - WTF?!?! He's so lame!!!!

Still utterly gripped by eps 3 and 4 though. And hurray for the return of the cliffhanger!!!!

JfG

Originally posted by Mo
He has done loads of stuff, most recently Blackpool and Casanova!

Yeah, granted, Mo - which means we know he's good, yay - but he's not as well-known as Eccleston

Originally posted by JoyfulGrrl
Yeah, granted, Mo - which means we know he's good, yay - but he's not as well-known as Eccleston

No but he's better looking ;) :D

Originally posted by Mo
No but he's better looking ;) :D

Yep - can't deny this! ;)

Threads merged - sorry I didn't catch them till they were a bit long so they may be a little bit shuffled together!

Originally posted by JoyfulGrrl
... - although the series is far too terrifying for children, IMHO. Witness the shop models and the old dead lady possessed by the Gelth in the Dickens audience - EEK!!!
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Ok, so this takes me back completely to my childhood.

Mum was going to stop me from watching because everybody was saying how scary Tom Baker episodes had become.

I think Mary Whitehouse ran a campaign back then to get the show off the air!

Originally posted by Deavon
I think Mary Whitehouse ran a campaign back then to get the show off the air!

A sure sign that a programme will be praised in later years for its artistic merit!!!!

Fans of Doctor Who might wannna check out U.N.I.Ts (United Nations Intelligence Taskforce) website UNIT (http://www.unit.org.uk/) Remember the password is buffalo

Not normally a big fan but loved Saturdays Doctor Who just for the fact that it completely ripped the sh*t out of the allies 'evidence based' decision to go to war.....

Aliens had weapons of mass destruction capable of being launched within 45 seconds.

They really wanted war so they could manipulate and sell the earth off to the highest bidder. Sound familiar if you replace the earth for oil?

Russel T Davies is a clever guy.

He may be clever guy but he's written some total tosh in the new Dr Who.

I keep getting parts of it mixed up with East Enders..... :)

Yeah, some of the stuff there is truly pants, but it does have a sort of bad-in-a-retro-way kinda feel to it that I like, as though he is trying to keep it in the same camp action style as the original serieses(es?)

OMG!! I've just launched missiles at America!!

And me a pacifist too . . .


V.V. cool site, Jon, thanks!!! And can I just say, DALEKS NEXT WEEK!!!!

Oooo EEEEEEE Ooooooooooooooooooo
EEEEEEEEE
Ooo-ooo-oooooooooooo . . .


JfG

No no no, the new series is just rubbish as is Ecclestone.

The original series were alot better written and on a small budget too

JonnH,

Gotta agree - the old stuff was not self-referentially camp (??) in that it may have had camp moments but it was played straight with no 'post modern' knowingness.

Give me poor special effects and a disused quarry on the South Downs over the new stuff any day!

Joe

Maybe it's just me, but I reckon if you were to remove the old rose-tinted galsses and have a good look back at the old Doctor Who, you'll realise that it was actually pretty rubbish.

Same goes for most old telly, to be fair. Most "classics" are anything but. More money these days means better writing, more professional production values and an altogether better viewing experience in the vast majority of cases (Doctor Who being one of them).

In my opinion, like. :thumbsup:

Time to put on my protective helmet, I think!

Originally posted by Greenback
Maybe it's just me, but I reckon if you were to remove the old rose-tinted galsses and have a good look back at the old Doctor Who, you'll realise that it was actually pretty rubbish.

Same goes for most old telly, to be fair. Most "classics" are anything but. More money these days means better writing, more professional production values and an altogether better viewing experience in the vast majority of cases (Doctor Who being one of them).

In my opinion, like. :thumbsup:

Time to put on my protective helmet, I think!

I watch it most weekends, and yes, parts of it was true pants.

But it had it's heart in the right place, wasn't so knowing and on many occasions gave a good plot that was 'timeless'.

More money does NOT necessarily mean better writing - some of the dialogue in the current Doctor Who is dreadful sub-soap opera stuff. A better viewing experience? Hmmm.....the cringe per hour rating for the current Doctor Who is higher than even the Sylvester McCoy / Ace series, and that was bad enough.

Originally posted by Greenback
Maybe it's just me, but I reckon if you were to remove the old rose-tinted galsses and have a good look back at the old Doctor Who, you'll realise that it was actually pretty rubbish.

Same goes for most old telly, to be fair. Most "classics" are anything but. More money these days means better writing, more professional production values and an altogether better viewing experience in the vast majority of cases (Doctor Who being one of them).

In my opinion, like. :thumbsup:

Time to put on my protective helmet, I think!

I completely disagree with you.

ok, some of the very old Dr Whos creak a bit and the Colin Baker/Sylvester McCoy episodes could be pretty embarrassing, but mostly the production teams had to be really creative with what they had, and generally made a great job of it.

Fantastic script-writing does NOT depend on how much money you throw at it - it depends on talent and a sympathy and a feeling and respect for your material. Both of these were present in abundance in Dr Whos of byegone years, especially the Tom Baker and Peter Davison years. (Douglas Adams wrote some of these episodes - now there's a man who knew how to write science fiction :thumbsup: ).

Sorry if it offends anyone's sensibilities, but the current Dr Who script is really poor. It jars and grates - it actually makes me feel uncomfortable to listen to it. There is no flow, no feeling in it. I tried to watch it again on Saturday night, but gave up after a few minutes - I felt as though Dr Who had somehow wandered onto the EastEnders set, as Joe mentioned. One of the wonderful things about the programme was that it was so DIFFERENT from other programmes - what I saw on Saturday was more soap opera/drama than science fiction.

Maybe I switched on at a bad time, I don't know - but I doubt I'll bother watching again, unless the BBC find a script-writer more in tune with the programme.

Watch UKGold occasionally and you'll see what I mean.

StarSparkle

PS For awesome modern science fiction writing (great drama, great character development and great story-telling) see the recent series of "Battlestar Galactica"

what did you make of the dalek i thought it was very good pity there was only one of them

I'm not a big Doctor Who fan but wow what a gripping episode. The Dalek was really menacing and there was a true feeling of menace all the way through the episode.

I even felt sorry for the Dalek.

Never been a fan of Dr Who, but this new series has been top-notch. Very well made.

How long will it be before they bring back Blake Seven?

Yes I agree the darlek was quite scary, had that invinsibility about it, and flying as well, best episode so far and some great bits there as well.

Billy Piper is crap though, the efffects are quite good this time,

But its probably not everyone cup of tea this new Dr who series.

Hope the Dalek comes back, not sure about Dr Who the programme does not seem to flow as good as previous Dr who`s.

Billy Piper is ok.
Perhaps I just like the old ones.

Loved the Dalek and the self-destruct mechanism. Always wondered what the globes were for.

The BBC site has a cool Dalek game on it. Exterminate !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

The pictures of Daleks on tracks in the photo gallery makes them a little less menacing

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/06gallery/1024/12.jpg

:P

"BAD WOLF"

Can anyone please explain the significance of this term?

Scrawled in graffitti on the TARDIS
The helicopter in 'Dalek' was called 'bad wolf'
The television channel in 'The Long Game' is called 'BadWolf'

I've probably missed some, I'm very intrigued....

Please let me know other references , and WHAT DOES IT MEAN???

HELP!

Originally posted by Deavon
"BAD WOLF"

Can anyone please explain the significance of this term?

Scrawled in graffitti on the TARDIS
The helicopter in 'Dalek' was called 'bad wolf'
The television channel in 'The Long Game' is called 'BadWolf'

I've probably missed some, I'm very intrigued....

Please let me know other references , and WHAT DOES IT MEAN???

HELP!

Deavon - go to http://www.bad-wolf.org/ - you get redirected to Mickey's "Who is Dr Who?" website but it says "redirecting you for now . . ."

Ooooh!! What's going on?!?! I'm guessing it's something to do with the as yet un-named 12th episode . . . all building up to a fabulous season climax involving more daleks . . .

Am LOVING this series!!!

JfG xx

Me too JG! Thanks for the link.

If you find out more let me know!

Wow, this series just gets better and better, If I wasn't a butch male I may have admitted to a tear in my eye. :)

Who would have thought it, Billy Piper can actually act.

Originally posted by Lostrider
Wow, this series just gets better and better, If I wasn't a butch male I may have admitted to a tear in my eye. :)

Who would have thought it, Billy Piper can actually act. Billie Piper ;) yes tonights was very good was nice to have a story line that we got to see how rose father died and how lonely the doctor really is.

She sure can ! Just been to the Dr who site and found this great pic of her

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/08gallery/1024/10.jpg

what a gob !

The Reapers were fab - need more nasty creatures please Aunty Beeb

And as for next week - I do not believe it ! It's got whats-his-name in it !

Originally posted by rtapper
She sure can ! Just been to the Dr who site and found this great pic of her

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/08gallery/1024/10.jpg

what a gob !

The Reapers were fab - need more nasty creatures please Aunty Beeb

And as for next week - I do not believe it ! It's got whats-his-name in it ! Richard Wilson :hihi: no wonder Chris Evans had a big smile on his face will that gob :P who else loves Billie like me now she's been in Doctor Who :thumbsup:

Not seen this episode yet but going to watch it after I'm done here. I often think bad acting gets confused with bad scriptwriting, nobody can seem natural delivering poor dialogue, and that's been a problem on occasion throughout this series.

Well I thought 'Father's Day' was a brilliant episode. Really moving, involving story... with scary beasties in it as well!

The scariest bit for me was when the Doctor opened the Tardis to find the inside had gone. The thought of the Doctor being abandoned by the Tardis is just terrible. (especially in 1987 with all the bad fashion)

I just wish that we could see the back story develop a bit more now. We know he's alone, we know there was a terrible war. Let's see more of that.

I've got to agree, the "Billie Piper meets her father" and the "emotional Dalek" episodes were wonderful. It's a shame they were released in the same series as the pig politicians and that silly one with the woman stretched like a canvas.

Originally posted by JoyfulGrrl
Ooooh!! What's going on?!?! I'm guessing it's something to do with the as yet un-named 12th episode . . . all building up to a fabulous season climax involving more daleks . . .


I heard a rumour going around the internet about the last episode in the series, which apparently involves more daleks.. apparently they have had to re-think it though due to christopher eccleston pulling out- I cant confirm this though unfortunately.

Originally posted by Jon
Richard Wilson :hihi: no wonder Chris Evans had a big smile on his face will that gob :P who else loves Billie like me now she's been in Doctor Who :thumbsup:

I don't bee-lieve it! :lol:

I'm still thoroughly enjoying the series and just wish that it wasn't going to be such a short term thing. I've noticed a lot of older 'whoians' have been very vocal about it's merits and am beginning to wonder if there are any young [under 12] people watching it. I've been asking around but with no luck so far so does anyone else know what the kids who are watching it for the first time think of it..

It is essential viewing for the whole of our family, which includes boys aged 4 (finds it a little scary) and 6 (loves it).

Originally posted by Deavon
I just wish that we could see the back story develop a bit more now. We know he's alone, we know there was a terrible war. Let's see more of that.
See I don't really agree with expanding the Doctor's character in that way, I'd rather we don't really know anything about him, like in the good old days.

Also, does it seem stupid to anyone else how the Doctor is the only time-lord left? If he's a 'time-lord' why can't he just go back in time and save them all?

Originally posted by Sidla
See I don't really agree with expanding the Doctor's character in that way, I'd rather we don't really know anything about him, like in the good old days.


I am with you on that. The not knowing creates a little mystery.
Anyway , if we knew all about him we would have to call him
Dr. I know or something. Why spoil it.

Check this out.

Dr Who News (http://newsbox.msn.co.uk/article.aspx?as=adarticle&f=pa_showbiz&t=3982&id=870289&d=20050518&do=http://newsbox.msn.co.uk&i=http://newsbox.msn.co.uk/mediaexportlive&ks=0&mc=5&ml=ma&lc=en&ae=windows-1252)

Originally posted by Sidla

Also, does it seem stupid to anyone else how the Doctor is the only time-lord left? If he's a 'time-lord' why can't he just go back in time and save them all?

He can't go back and save the time lords because those vampirey things from the last episode will come and "get" him. However, the more relevant question is why can't he go back to a time when the timelords were still alive - presumably something to do with the time war when they were wiped out. A similar but slightly different question, we think he can't go back to a time when they were still alive because when destroyed in the time war they were destroyed from all time - so this point doesn't exist.

This hasn't been explained yet but we reckon there should be a bit more on the time war later in the series.

sorry my boyfriend is a doctor who nerd and it seems to be rubbing off on me!!

Originally posted by Deavon
"BAD WOLF"

Can anyone please explain the significance of this term?

Scrawled in graffitti on the TARDIS
The helicopter in 'Dalek' was called 'bad wolf'
The television channel in 'The Long Game' is called 'BadWolf'

I've probably missed some, I'm very intrigued....

Please let me know other references , and WHAT DOES IT MEAN???

HELP!

I can add to this too - apparently episode 12 is called bad wolf so guess all will be revealed. The welsh girl in "the unquiet dead" said something about the big bad wolf when she started getting hysterical.

Mummy ? Are you my mummy ?

Urgh, scary episode and what a cliffhanger ! Wish I could travel in time a week so i dont have 2 wait for next episode. :suspect:

For some reason my Sky autoview isn't working properly at the moment, and I had forgotten that Doctor Who was starting earlier tonight....I changed the channel manually at about 6.55, and found I had missed most of this week's episode....it's being repeated on BBC3 tomorrow, so will probably watch it again then....set the autoview, but not sure if it's going to work.

If anyone knows if there's a problem with autoview at the moment, can they PM me and let me know....thanks.

Its on BBC3 at 12:20 tonight if u cant wait until tomorrow :thumbsup:

Was tonights Dr Who cut by 5mins? it was only on 40mins but later tonight its on for 45mins.

It's obvious why all those folks ended up with gas masks on... it was so they could take part in Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall video.

Originally posted by Jon
Was tonights Dr Who cut by 5mins? it was only on 40mins but later tonight its on for 45mins.

Someone posted a link to some information about this particular episode, I believe they cut out the part where someone transforms into the gasmask wearing creature, this was apparently deemed to scary for younger viewers but, seeing as I missed the earlier showing, I cannot verify this statement.

Spoiler alert for those who are planning to see it tonight! Do noit read below!





AFAIAA they cut down the transformation scene, (didn't remove it). They removed a bit of the initial transformation where you could hear Richard Wilson's skull cracking (suffered by head trauma part of the plague).

Apparently it made it too gruesome to be considered a family show, and for once i kinda agree with the decision even though i didn't find that particular part of the show as disturbing as the little boy, I thought last night's episode was pretty scary for a 6:30 time slot..

Wilf

Its odd what can scare you as a kid though, its not always the obvious stuff life violence and death.

Not that those are good things to subject kids to on a regular basis, but I don't think there can be any kid who has gone through life without having been frightened by something they saw on TV.

Originally posted by rtapper
Its on BBC3 at 12:20 tonight if u cant wait until tomorrow :thumbsup:

darn!!!

If i'd have known, I would have caught it then!!!

Is it repeated every sat night at this time? I missed last nigh's original showing on BBC1, and was geared up to videoing it tonight, whilst i toddle off to the meet. I'd rather have caught it last night! i thought it was only repeated on BBC 3 on sunday night... (which I didn't find out until I rotten-well missed the first episosde... TWICE!!! - first time on BBC 1, the 2nd time , the repeat on BBC3!)

I arrived home as the credits were just about to come up...

Like a prat, I forgot that the bloomin' Eurovision, trash-o-vision contest was on, and would *Have to* take precedence over this far more interesting programme! (snarls under her breath)

I was looking for "Dr who:confidential", too, which I didn't mange to find/ catch, either.

oohh! bloody BBC!!! Why can't they leave the scheduling alone? Why can't we tune in at the expected time, and find the expected programme being transmitted? it'd make life a darn sight easier!

PT

Originally posted by Plain Talker
darn!!!

If i'd have known, I would have caught it then!!!

Is it repeated every sat night at this time? I missed last nigh's original showing on BBC1, and was geared up to videoing it tonight, whilst i toddle off to the meet. I'd rather have caught it last night! i thought it was only repeated on BBC 3 on sunday night... (which I didn't find out until I rotten-well missed the first episosde... TWICE!!! - first time on BBC 1, the 2nd time , the repeat on BBC3!)

I arrived home as the credits were just about to come up...

Like a prat, I forgot that the bloomin' Eurovision, trash-o-vision contest was on, and would *Have to* take precedence over this far more interesting programme! (snarls under her breath)

I was looking for "Dr who:confidential", too, which I didn't mange to find/ catch, either.

oohh! bloody BBC!!! Why can't they leave the scheduling alone? Why can't we tune in at the expected time, and find the expected programme being transmitted? it'd make life a darn sight easier!

PT

Doctor Who is repeated every Sunday night at 7 on BBC3, which is perhaps a bit late for you as you're probably getting ready for the Dev Cat do by then ;)

Well, I'm man enough to eat my own words occasionally.

Someone pass me the salt, please. ;)

Last night's Dr Who was pretty darn scary. It still had some crap in there - PLEASE cut out the soap opera-ish sub-texts and the giggly girly side of Rose - but it was definitely much better than the others I've seen.

Getting there!

Joe :)

Originally posted by rtapper
Mummy ? Are you my mummy ?

Urgh, scary episode and what a cliffhanger ! Wish I could travel in time a week so i dont have 2 wait for next episode. :suspect: Are you my mummy ? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/sounds/child1.mp3)

Originally posted by Jon
Are you my mummy ? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/sounds/child1.mp3)

Whoo hooo - this is scary stuff! :help:

Just watched last night's episode for the second time, and it was still blooming scary! Love it! This is Dr Who as it should be. :thumbsup:

I can imagine if I was a kiddie watching it I'd be hiding behind the sofa, sneaking peeks. Especially when Nancy was hiding under the table when "It" was in the room......

Eagerly awaiting next week - let's have more of this quality

Kind of reminds me of "Sapphire and Steel" - excellent, creepy series that had one of the most psychologically horrifying endings ever......

StarSparkle

I read in my guardian news update that the papers (Express I think) were saying Billy Piper was leaving Dr Who. Anyone know more than me about that? Have the bbc confirmed it?

Edited to say..link here

http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,50001-1182855,00.html


Claire

ps Are you my mummy? That was REALLY scary!

BBC story here :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4572551.stm

Originally posted by Jon
Are you my mummy ? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/sounds/child1.mp3)

Just downloading this on my mobile....Quality!!

:D

Well, I think it's sad that the two main characters are leaving. You get attached to them. Billy Piper has certainly been an absolute gem!

That last episode was reight scary! The hairs on the back of my neck were all a quiver!

Great fun shouting "Mummy" outside my 6 year old's door after he'd gone to bed on Saturday night!

Originally posted by Voise
Great fun shouting "Mummy" outside my 6 year old's door after he'd gone to bed on Saturday night!

That's SO mean!!!! But funny. :)

Claire

Anyone heard the rumour Jennifer Ellison replacing Bille Piper?

It's seems unlikely to me.

Originally posted by StarSparkle
Whoo hooo - this is scary stuff! :help:

Just watched last night's episode for the second time, and it was still blooming scary! Love it! This is Dr Who as it should be. :thumbsup:

I can imagine if I was a kiddie watching it I'd be hiding behind the sofa, sneaking peeks. Especially when Nancy was hiding under the table when "It" was in the room......

Eagerly awaiting next week - let's have more of this quality

Kind of reminds me of "Sapphire and Steel" - excellent, creepy series that had one of the most psychologically horrifying endings ever......

StarSparkle Talking of Sapphire and Steel this should bring back a few memories Sapphire And Steel (http://tv.cream.org/specialassignments/themes/sapphire.mp3)

Originally posted by Jon
Talking of Sapphire and Steel this should bring back a few memories Sapphire And Steel (http://tv.cream.org/specialassignments/themes/sapphire.mp3)

Oh yeah, this does indeed bring back some memories - and such fantastically creepy music! :thumbsup:

Nice one!

StarSparkle

I am your mummy !

What a cool storyline :thumbsup:

Emergency protocol 417 please, shaken not stirred :P

Eeeek, the slitheen are coming back - and a nuke power station in Cardiff town central, just gets better and better:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Another great programme, but I'm a bit miffed to see the farting babyheads back next week - I thought that was the weakest episode by far.

Originally posted by rtapper
I am your mummy !

What a cool storyline :thumbsup:

Emergency protocol 417 please, shaken not stirred :P

Eeeek, the slitheen are coming back - and a nuke power station in Cardiff town central, just gets better and better:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hopefully they can nuke Cardiff before the Wednesday match.. *evil*

What are the Slitheens up to now with Big Ben? Big Ben (http://www.ntlworld.com/partners/itn/britain/story186817.php)

Do you know what I like in that last episode?

When Rose and Nancy are talking, and Rose tells her Germany doesn't win the war. What a great scene!

So what is Bad Wolf? some say the Doctor is not really the doctor but he is the master,or the master is the bad wolf anyone clear this up.

In 'The End of the World' the Moxx of Balhoon talks to the Face of Boe about a 'bad wolf senario'.

In 'The Unquiet Dead' Gwyneth reads Rose's mind and says 'The things you [Rose] have seen....the darkness...the big Bad Wolf' and she recoils away from Rose in fear.

In 'Aliens in London' a young boy draws 'Bad Wolf' on the side of the Tardis.

In 'WWIII' the graffiti is washed of the side of the Tardis.

In 'Dalek' the helicopter carrying van Staten has the call sign 'Bad Wolf One'

In 'The Long Game' there is a TV station showing a pregnant Face of Boe called 'Bad Wolf TV'

In 'Father's Day' there is a poster on the wall with the faint words of 'Bad Wolf' written over in some sort of pen.

Hi Jon,

So far we have:

Originally posted by Deavon
"BAD WOLF"

Can anyone please explain the significance of this term?

Scrawled in graffitti on the TARDIS
The helicopter in 'Dalek' was called 'bad wolf'
The television channel in 'The Long Game' is called 'BadWolf'

I've probably missed some, I'm very intrigued....

Please let me know other references , and WHAT DOES IT MEAN???

HELP!
Originally posted by JoyfulGrrl
Deavon - go to http://www.bad-wolf.org/ - you get redirected to Mickey's "Who is Dr Who?" website but it says "redirecting you for now . . ."

Ooooh!! What's going on?!?! I'm guessing it's something to do with the as yet un-named 12th episode . . . all building up to a fabulous season climax involving more daleks . . .

Am LOVING this series!!!

JfG xx

And hopefully more info to come...

:o 500,000 Daleks are heading to Earth and this is how the doctor dies ( see page 32 of The Sun)

I know it's a bit of a techie geek point, but is it just me who's annoyed by the post production? It looks like it's been filmed with Vaseline on the lens. And everything looks so glowy red. The same thing bugged me in Fellowship of the Ring.

WOOHOO, the daleks are back, next weeks episode looks brilliant, The Doctor in the BB house, roflmao, intriguing and a Robot version of Anne Robinson, heh...........

They touched upon the Bad Wolf thing this week, but, it was brushed off, so, I have got the feeling that possibly The Master might be on the horizon, he is possibly following the Dr and making his life difficult, just a thought, can't wait to see.

Bad Wolf (http://www.badwolf.org.uk/) are we getting closer to finding out what bad wolf means or maybe not.

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-34391/epid-407904

Originally posted by Olliekitten
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-34391/epid-407904 so all bad wolf was a Bad Wolf channel on Satellite 5 :rolleyes: least we get 500,000 Daleks can't wait.

Can I just say that I haven't been this excited about a T.V series since Laura Palmer turned up in a plastic bag.


(Am I showing my age?)

Just been to the Doctor who site and they have a fab competition for you all to enter :P

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

and the Bad Wolf site has been updated I see - lots of revelations and theories :thumbsup:

http://www.badwolf.org.uk/

Meanwhile, Badwoldf TV is a forum area

http://www.bad-wolf.org.uk/forum/index.php

Ooooooh heck ! There may be a Dalek on its way to the G8 Summit ?!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/4077698.stm

Would love to see a Dalek exterminate some of the bands :P

Woah for one moment tonite I thought they were gonna kill Rose off and replace her with Lynda [with a 'y'].

Last episode looks fab. Cant wait to catch the sneak previews they are having through next week :thumbsup:

EXTERMINATE !:cool:

It distracted me from the forum for a while. Gripping stuff :D

I've misseed a couple though, so I'm not sure I followed it all :(

I thought the start of this week's episode was excruciatingly poor. Half way through it began to improve and ended with a really powerful sequence.

It's a pain - I just wish they could maintain the standards throughout each episode. It fluctuatates between old-school naff and inspired brilliance.

Two gripes:

1. I don't have widescreen so I missed the graffiti on the tardis.

2. The american is a pillock. It's as if the producers wanted to ensure the americans bought the series so they wrote Bruce Willis into the script. :rolleyes:

Great picture here of Trinny and Susannah after their extreme makeover

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/photostories/12tv/10.shtml

:P

Originally posted by Ant
The american is a pillock. It's as if the producers wanted to ensure the americans bought the series so they wrote Bruce Willis into the script. :rolleyes:
I wondered where he came from and why :roll:

Oh - and he had to 'save' everybody too :exasperated:

Do you think we will be seeing Davros in the next episode? I thought tonights episode "Bad Wolf" was excellent, just a shame the music drowned out what people were saying at times.

:thumbsup: Can't wait for next weeks now

Don't worry those who don't like it Ant and Dec will be back soon, grown up tv at its best God help us that they made fun at big brother

I agree with Ant... the first half of tonight's episode was almost back to the Bertie Bassett level of silliness of the Sylvester McCoy era, but it did thankfully pick up after that. Still not used to people waving large firearms around in Dr Who as though they were in training for Terminator 4 or whatever.

Do you think we will be seeing Davros in the next episode?

I think they made that a bit too obvious (not exactly subtle with the trailer at the end of each programme, are they? :mad: ) If they leave out the Weakest Link/Big Brother tripe, it should be a cracking episode.

There is a war coming and you wont see the Doctor using a weapon thats why we have Captain Jack to do all the fighting, its not like everyone lives is it.

It was a great episode tonight... but who was speaking at the end?

We think Davros? Or... The Master?

(A few references to 'master' in the script)...

Can anyone shed light?

Originally posted by Deavon
It was a great episode tonight... but who was speaking at the end?

We think Davros? Or... The Master?

(A few references to 'master' in the script)...

Can anyone shed light?

It was Brian Potter.

Dr Who is p*ssing in the wind!

:hihi:

Must say it was a fabulous episode .... loved the Anne Robinson and Big brother bits.

Cannot wait for next week with 2000 flying Daleks ..... roll on Saturday.

2,000 ? Thought it was more like 500,000 ??? :gag: :gag: :gag:

I wanna know who it is as well speaking at the end... I reckon davros... oh its gonna be good I tells ya!

I always watch the half hour extra on BBC 3 straight after Doctor Who, for those who don't know it's a program that shows how Doctor Who is filmed with snippets from the cast and crew and several of the past doctors.
What amazed me in the last program was the pain and discomfort the poor guy had to endure whilst in the Anne Robinson android get-up.
I also found it slightly amusing to learn that they'd cut the brieff shot of Captain Jack's rear end but left in the question as to where he hid the gun he produced, I wonder how many parents had a tricky question and answer episode with their kids after that.
If any clever so and so does manage to find out who the mystery voice is, as heard at the end of the last episode just keep it to yourselves or I'm afraid I'm going to have to EXTERMINATE you!!!

Originally posted by WallBuilder
I always watch the half hour extra on BBC 3 straight after Doctor Who, for those who don't know it's a program that shows how Doctor Who is filmed with snippets from the cast and crew and several of the past doctors.
What amazed me in the last program was the pain and discomfort the poor guy had to endure whilst in the Anne Robinson android get-up.
I also found it slightly amusing to learn that they'd cut the brieff shot of Captain Jack's rear end but left in the question as to where he hid the gun he produced, I wonder how many parents had a tricky question and answer episode with their kids after that.
If any clever so and so does manage to find out who the mystery voice is, as heard at the end of the last episode just keep it to yourselves or I'm afraid I'm going to have to EXTERMINATE you!!! I watch Doctor Who Confidential too :thumbsup: you can watch them on the BBC Doctor Who website Dr Who (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/confidential/index.shtml)

Originally posted by ANGELUS
I wanna know who it is as well speaking at the end... I reckon davros... oh its gonna be good I tells ya!

I thought that but Davros sounds like a darlek, so we thought it might be The Master, he is a time lord too after all.

I think that Bad Wolf episode made doctor Who Cheesy looking, Those Trinny and Sussane Robots and the AnneDroid, Ugh, Awfully bad, I hate it when christopher Eccleston is always smiling all the time.

Originally posted by nickatnight
I hate it when christopher Eccleston is always smiling all the time.

I think it is one of Dr Who's eccentricities though.... Tom Baker showed his teeth even more than Eccleston!

we think it might be adam (that bloke from corrie).

He knew about the daleks and he had that info connection in his head.

Just a thought.

I wouldn't have thought they'd bring davros back - not inkeeping with doing things for the "new" brand of Dr Who fans.

I tried to buy a model remote control dalek today but they were too expensive

Warning Warning this can be found on the BBC Doctor Who website. Publicity pictures will appear tomorrow, and there's a screening for the press on Wednesday, so stuff will leak out. Our best advice to you - STAY OFF THE INTERNET THIS WEEK!

Especially as bbc.co.uk is running a video teaser every day at noon. It's also shown on BBC One through the day, and at 8pm every night - so step firmly away from the television at those


Daleks and more Daleks (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/index.shtml) turn your speakers up ;)

At tonight's BAFTA screening of "The Parting of the Ways," the final episode of this first series of "Doctor Who," producer Russell T Davies and BBC executive Jane Tranter announced that a third series of the show has now been commissioned, including a second Christmas special.

They also noted that Billie Piper (Rose) would be in all the episodes of the second series, although whether she would return for the third was apparently still being discussed...

Originally posted by Jon
Warning Warning this can be found on the BBC Doctor Who website. Publicity pictures will appear tomorrow, and there's a screening for the press on Wednesday, so stuff will leak out. Our best advice to you - STAY OFF THE INTERNET THIS WEEK!
And DON'T LOOK AT PAGE 6 OF TODAY'S GUARDIAN!

And whatever you do, dont look here either :P

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4098270.stm

TIME IS UP :clap: i can't wait for tonights episode.

Oh dear.

I've just read that K9 is to return in the next series.

"We're extremely happy K9 is making a return. We have to be careful with using too much from the past but we couldn't resist bringing back K9. Everyone loves him."

Not quite everyone. He was an irritating lump of tin that was better suited to 80's american sci-fi B-movies. I hated that pathetic dog more than I hated Scrappy Doo. And I detested Scrappy Dappy Piggin Doo.

K9 would be great if he was brought up to date - something akin to a Sony AIBO rather than a moving box of lights with a radar dish on top and a scarf round its neck :P

It's something that's easy to get very badly wrong.

My guess - and I know I'm negging out with pessimism here - is that they'll get it wrong and it'll appeal only to five-year-olds who'll snap them up for xmas presents. Hopefully I'm wrong. It just worries me - why would they want to bring back something that was so obviously naff in the first place? The fact that they're saying "everybody loves him" hints that he'll be relatively unchanged. Is there no-one in the production/writing team that has any fresh ideas? - Other than flatulent aliens.

Just in case people who don't know what K9 is take a look Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1110000/images/_1113537_k9bbc.jpg) next they will bring back the Macra or the Nimons :suspect:

Jon: ...next they will bring back the Macra or the Nimons

Jon's a Whovian anorak - let's all point at him like little children and snigger :hihi:

Originally posted by Ant
Jon's a Whovian anorak - let's all point at him like little children and snigger :hihi: Oh, what sad times are these when ruffians like Ant can point and snigger at will to old Men. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred. ;)

The Deltawave - wasnt that a microwave ? With a twiddle... :thumbsup:

Wow. One of the best programmes I've seen for a long time !!

Erm, why am I getting the impression that the new Doctor will be a bit of a wimp ? First few words didnt exactly fill me with confidence that he'll save us from all the badies out in the universe, but since there are 2 more series to come, I guess he cant be all that bad :P

Also a bit let down by the way in which he beat the daleks. Or didn't :mad:

Yeah, but that Rose Tyler sure killed Dalek ass.

That was great:clap:

Well it is all over ... but wasnt it good ... effects were amazing for a TV series.


Long live the NEW doctor.

The next series has got something to live upto.... beat that.

Just amazing

was frickin' awesome

Dunno if anyone noticed the bloopers :-

For a start, the Doctor wears a watch, what on earth is a TIMElord doing wearing a watch when he can be materialising at ANY time period, lol

Secondly, in last weeks episode, when Rose got vapourised by Annedroid Robinson, Cpt Frank explains by bringing Lynda "with a Y" back and tells the Doctor that they don't get killed, they just get beamed across space, so, in this weeks episode, when Annedroid Robinson shoots the 3 Daleks, wouldn't they have also been sent elsewhere ???

Food for thought !!!

Let's see if anyone else has managed to find some bloopers within the series.

I thought that was really good. Apart from the day was saved by 'a special effect'. A bit cheesey.

Wish he could have stayed for one more series. Felt like he was just getting into his stride.

Countdown to invasion starts now...

(So the Daleks aren't dust?)

Originally posted by Kry10
Dunno if anyone noticed the bloopers :-

For a start, the Doctor wears a watch, what on earth is a TIMElord doing wearing a watch when he can be materialising at ANY time period, lol


The doctor always carried a watch. And sometimes jelly babies. It doesn't always make sense!

Originally posted by Ant
Wow. One of the best programmes I've seen for a long time !! :clap: The BBC at its best :sad: i had a little bit of dust in my eyes at the end ;) Doctor Who Will return At Christmas just like James Bond :D

LONG LIVE THE DOCTOR

Originally posted by Kry10


Secondly, in last weeks episode, when Rose got vapourised by Annedroid Robinson, Cpt Frank explains by bringing Lynda "with a Y" back and tells the Doctor that they don't get killed, they just get beamed across space, so, in this weeks episode, when Annedroid Robinson shoots the 3 Daleks, wouldn't they have also been sent elsewhere ???



Maybe a cunning way to bring the Daleks back one more time:D

Is anyone else looking forward to the return of the cybermen?For me waaaay better than the Daleks!

Bring back the Ice Warriors :D be COOL to be a Ice Warrior in this weather ;)

Still can't for the life of me figure out why Rose left all those Bad Wolf signs littered all over the place... and then only remembered at the last minute that she'd done it. Funny how you always remember right at the end etc.

Still, not a bad episode and overall I think the series has been a success, though not without its moments of silliness. Billie Piper has been better than expected, but I still never really warmed to Ecclestone. We'll have to see how the new bloke does.

As for K9, didn't he go off with Sarah Jane Smith in the end? Does that mean she'll have a cameo in the next series when he (or it rather) comes back? It would be nice to think so as she was certainly one of the more long-serving screamers.

You've managed to depress me with the news that the awful K9 is going to make a come back. I hated the horrible naff poxy useless garbagey hunk of tin and thought what it needed was a up close and personal meeting with a sledge hammer.
I was an eentsy weentsy bit disappointed with the dalek emperor and the transformation of Rose who saves the day and answers all the questions it just seemed a bit 'rushed'.
However watching it through my 12 year old eye's i still managed to enjoy it and didn't even have to squeak too much at dalek 'noises' in the vacuum of space or the lousy sound effects when they shot the space sttion window out killing the female.
Roll on the christman special but only after we've had a nice long warm/hot summer.

The ending could backfire a bit really. Surely at any point in the future when they get into trouble all Rose has to do is open the panel in the Tardis, gaze into the light again, and all will be solved. It's made her too powerful, unlike all the other companions who have virtually all been powerless (Romana was a bit of an exception since she was time lord herself, and Leela who had a certain er... physical presence). It almost reminds me of Larry Niven's Ringworld books, where he gave one character a lucky gene which meant she always came out on top; nice plot device but too late he realised that it meant he couldn't really do anything more with that character as the outcome was always pre-ordained.

:rolleyes: didn't she forget what she did?

But if she thought of it once... and in any case the Doctor knows she can do it.

Originally posted by rtapper
Erm, why am I getting the impression that the new Doctor will be a bit of a wimp ? First few words didnt exactly fill me with confidence that he'll save us from all the badies out in the universe, but since there are 2 more series to come, I guess he cant be all that bad :P

Also a bit let down by the way in which he beat the daleks. Or didn't :mad:

My thoughts exactly, as soon as I saw him, I was not impressed with him straight away.

As for K9, didn't he go off with Sarah Jane Smith in the end? Does that mean she'll have a cameo in the next series when he (or it rather) comes back? It would be nice to think so as she was certainly one of the more long-serving screamers.

Word has it that Elizibeth Sladen is yes indeedily going to make a cameo next series. I always found her extremely irritating but rather fanciable.

Originally posted by metalman
As for K9, didn't he go off with Sarah Jane Smith in the end? Does that mean she'll have a cameo in the next series when he (or it rather) comes back? It would be nice to think so as she was certainly one of the more long-serving screamers. I quite often watch the old series of Dr. Who on UK Gold (Saturday and Sunday mornings), and fairly recently they showed K9 and Romana going off with the wookie thing in e-space. I think K9 post-dated Sarah Jane Smith.

As for the daleks who were dematerialised by Annedroid Robinson, wasn't Rose destroying all the daleks that existed, not just the ones who were in the space ships and on earth, although I do believe that they would have materialised on the mother ship, which was destroyed anyway. Hopefully that won't be the case, and there are some daleks lurking somewhere out of reach.

Roll on December for the new series!:clap: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by metalman
Still can't for the life of me figure out why Rose left all those Bad Wolf signs littered all over the place...

She didnt, the tardis did I believe, as when she looked into the tardis, she became part of it, its voice piece if you like.

its hard watching someone who is not christopher eccleston in it i loved christopher but he left! waaa! and bibllie piper is leaveon as well. noooo........ and now we have david tennant" i dnt think its goin 2 be gd as it used 2 be :cry: :sad: :!:

Billie is in the whole of the second series as far as i know :thumbsup: :P

but then she leaves! i mean look she is acting wid david tennant! i dont like him! waa i miss chriss! who did u like better? :)

Originally posted by Jon
:clap: The BBC at its best :sad: i had a little bit of dust in my eyes at the end ;) Doctor Who Will return At Christmas just like James Bond :D

LONG LIVE THE DOCTOR
Dust in the eye? thought that was just me:D (or the lager)
just watched it again,a stunning piece of television,i honestly don't want to watch the next series,the chemistry between the doctor and rose was something else.

Originally posted by lucyjuicy
but then she leaves! i mean look she is acting wid david tennant! i dont like him! waa i miss chriss! who did u like better? :) It's a bit early to comment on that, don't you think? When we've seen the next series, maybe then.

Originally posted by deano
Dust in the eye? thought that was just me:D (or the lager)
just watched it again,a stunning piece of television,i honestly don't want to watch the next series,the chemistry between the doctor and rose was something else.



i so agree with u! did u c um john borrowman u no the guest starring in it kiss rose and the doctor he was bi! me 2 i dnt wana watch the nxt series! coz its got david tennant and i didnt much like him in Casanova! ye! he finally pulled her! :clap:

I understood about 25% of that.

Originally posted by lucyjuicy
i so agree with u! did u c um john borrowman u no the guest starring in it kiss rose and the doctor he was bi! me 2 i dnt wana watch the nxt series! coz its got david tennant and i didnt much like him in Casanova! ye! he finally pulled her! :clap:

i agree with you. did you see john borrowman. you know the guest starring in it! he kissed Rose and the doctor. john was bisexual. he he ha ha i dont watch much of the nxt series beause iyts got the guy in Casanova and i didnt like casonava! The docotr finally pulled rose :clap: