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fleetwood 16-04-2008, 22:11 Heres a couple of topics I've mentioned on other threads, but don't seem to be getting any response. During the latter stages of the war, as part of a recruiting and saving bond drive, a large plane ( I think a Lancaster Bomber) was assembled at the Moorhead (obviously transported in), there might have even been a smaller fighter plane there also. Along with all that, people were sticking 'Saving stamps' and writing messages on a large 'Bomb' that was on a trolley, no prizes for guessing where that was going. Now a few years later after the war,if you lived in the Grimesthorpe area 'Anderson Shelter' parts were being fashioned into a long large slide by the kids in the neighbourhood. It was situated on the left side of (Petre st) if you were coming from town and stopping at (Hunsley St). The area was known as the 'Tip'. 'The Star & Telegraph' took pictures and they were in the paper. Does anybody remember these events? Would the pictures be in an archive somewhere?
I can remember the aeroplane. I have quite a clear memory of my dad lifting me up to stick a stamp on the nose. Can't remember the bomb, though.
Right! It was a Lanc. The event was Wings for Victory week, but I can't remember which year it was. There were a series of such savings drives...... I think there was a round figure given for the cost of aircraft (a bomber £10,000 & a Spit £5000) neither of which represented the true cost. Other aircraft on display were a ME 109 in Barkers Pool on the old theatre site opposite the City Hall & a HE 111 at Bramall Lane football ground. A small charge was made to gain access to a viewing area and, in the case of the 109, and extra 6d (2. 1/2p) bought a few minutes in the cockpit. The Moorhead display area was at the junction of what was Button Lane & the Moor which, before the Blitz, was occupied by Binns shop.
fleetwood 18-04-2008, 22:42 Thank you ELWOOD & CARTAV I knew my memory was'nt playing tricks on me, and all that extra information, I love that stuff, thanks again. Further to my comments on the slide made from 'Anderson Shelter Galvanized Sheets', these were assembled on a hill (location as per previous post), if one thinks of a letter j j j j j j j tipped over onto one another, you may understand how the 'Curved Shelter Parts' formed the slide. The spare land (Tip) was a natural dumping ground for all these 'War Relics', that everybody was removing from their yards at that time. I wonder if the 'Star' pictures taken, still exist.
Right! It was a Lanc. The event was Wings for Victory week, but I can't remember which year it was. There were a series of such savings drives...... I think there was a round figure given for the cost of aircraft (a bomber £10,000 & a Spit £5000) neither of which represented the true cost. Other aircraft on display were a ME 109 in Barkers Pool on the old theatre site opposite the City Hall & a HE 111 at Bramall Lane football ground. A small charge was made to gain access to a viewing area and, in the case of the 109, and extra 6d (2. 1/2p) bought a few minutes in the cockpit. The Moorhead display area was at the junction of what was Button Lane & the Moor which, before the Blitz, was occupied by Binns shop.I remember an aeroplane (I remember it as a dark blue colour..I was very young at the time, but I recall being stood amongst a crowd of people and seeing young kids being lifted into into the seat of the Cockpit by a couple of RAF lads...there was another Aeroplane parked nearby...it was on a bombsite somewhere in the centre of Sheffield...can anyone fill in the rest of the details.
Nigel Womersle 21-04-2008, 23:43 I started a thread on this last year. Got some good replies.
fleetwood 22-04-2008, 00:52 Thanks NIGELWOMERSLE. I am going to try and wade through some of the threads, theres probably a quick way to do this but I'm still a novice at it.
Here's one
http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/picturesheffield.pl?_cgifunction=form&_layout=picturesheffield&keyval=sheff.refno=s15302
I remember those aeroplanes as well. Goes to prove " made in Sheffield " guarantees a long life seeing how many remember this.
75 & still going.
fleetwood 28-04-2008, 19:54 How many of the Forum users remember the 'Barrage Baloons' (hope I'm spelling that right). I know Sheffield had it's share, there must have been hundreds if not thousands of sites around the country during the war. Were they totally effective in what they were intended for? The nearest site to us was the 'Petre St' one. They were fascinating hives of activity to watch, they had their own type of vehicles and transport. I remember trailers with gas tanks aboard. As I recall the personnel wore blue uniforms, I imagine they must have been under the jurisdiction of the R.A.F. The only remains that I'm aware of, theres a building at Fulwood which I believe is being used as a private clubhouse of some description. If I'm not mistaken you could get 'Dinky Toy' replicas during the war (as you could other military tanks and planes etc.)
Hi Fleetwood
Can you give me any pointers to the building you mentioned in Fulwood please? As far as I can discover the nearest balloon site was near the top of Brocco bank, but later in the war there was an experimental radar station at Fulwood. The only mention I can find as to location is that the site is now covered with houses. I wonder if the building you mention might have been part of this?
Algy
Bayern Blade 29-04-2008, 10:14 Many cities had a Lancaster on display during the "Wings for victory" campaign.
Photos of a few (though unfortunately not Sheffield),appear in Mike Garbett and Brian Goulding's book "The Lancaster at war".
Presumably The Sheffield Newspapers archive would have photographs of the local display,I'd be interested to know which Lanc it was.
Slightly off subject,living near Hannover there are many crash sites around where I live.Though often there is little or nothing to see.
Last year I was searching for the crash site of a Lancaster I of 106 sqn which came down near the village of Groß Giessen during a raid on Hannover on 27/9/43, 5km from where I live.I got talking to an old man who had been an infantryman and was on leave from the eastern front at the time of the crash and he pointed out the exact spot.
We will soon be investigating two Lanc III crash sites from the same raid at the village of Mahlerten,of the 24 men on board these 3 aircraft 8 survived.
One of the aircraft which crashed at Mahlerten was shot down by the Luftwaffe's most famous night fighter ace Major Heinz Wolfgang Schnaufer (121 kills).
fleetwood 30-04-2008, 06:11 Thanks for your intrest ALGY I don't know the Fulwood area all that well, but here goes. If you were coming from town on the bus theres a stop before the hill that takes you into the central villiage/shopping area of Fulwood. It's at that stop without crossing any roads, you are within a stones throw from the building in question, it's certainly military in design and it goes back to the war years. It's mainly residential around there and you may be right in your research.
Thanks for your intrest ALGY I don't know the Fulwood area all that well, but here goes. If you were coming from town on the bus theres a stop before the hill that takes you into the central villiage/shopping area of Fulwood. It's at that stop without crossing any roads, you are within a stones throw from the building in question, it's certainly military in design and it goes back to the war years. It's mainly residential around there and you may be right in your research.
Thanks for that. It doesn't ring any bells, I'll have to go for a prowl round:thumbsup:
Floridablade 07-05-2008, 02:03 There was a Barrage Balloon site in Meersbrook Park just by the museum mostly operated by, I think, WAAFS. It consisted of a lorry with a large spool on the chassis and thick wire attached to the balloon, I'm not sure but I think there was a searchlight there too.
Floridablade, you are right about the barrage balloon in Meersbrook Park . It was just up Brook Road before the park entrance. I went to Meersbrook Bank School and passed every day. When it was windy the balloons used to make weird noises. It broke away partly from its moorings one day and it was really frightening. for the kids going to school. Above the gates farther up Brook Road were the shelters for the school to this day I have a fear of confined spaces. In Meersbrook Park Road there was a public bomb shelter ,I often wonder if it's still there i'm sure it must be.It was a very big shelter.Did you know the area ?
There was a barrage ballooon on the Crookes WMC, sports field, top end of Midfield Road.
I also remember a (Japanese) fighter plane being parked on a trailer on what was then spare ground (bomb site ?) half way up Western Road, opposite the top end of the school.
BayernBlade, I was very interested to hear you are investigating crashes.Have you been able to identify pilot or effects. What age are you to be interested in WW2 airplanes?
fleetwood 02-06-2009, 19:49 I don't know if theres been any info on this topic on other threads, but i'll try and describe my recollections on this subject. During the war when petrol was scarce or practically non-existant, some cars were running around with a big balloon type bag on the their roof which I assume held some sort of gas that fed the engine. My question, if that was the case what type of gas, was it dangerous and did they have to make big modifications to the engine? Also if my memory serves me right, did'nt some single decker buses tow a trailer that had some kind of energy producing apparatus on it? Don't recall if that was a 'Bag' thing though, i'm thinking not.
Many years ago as a little kid I left home to throw stones in the River Loxley? on Livesy Street, Owlerton. It was raining heabvy and it started to get dark and I was lost, the only time i'd been there before was when I'd gone down the Dog Lane with my Grandad in his wheelbarrow.
Nearby, opposite the weir was a barrage balloon station, staffed by young women, one of them spotted me and took me in. I was there for two days and it was great. Meanwhile everyone and G-d was looking for me.
it wasn't until one of the women went into the Owlerton Post Office opposite the Dog Track on Penistone Road did she heard someone talking about a missing little blonde haired lad. She immediately revealed that they had found a little boy who was lost and they were looking after him.
So, in the end everything turned out OK.
I've related this story to let you know there was a Balloon Barrage down the Dog Lane just past Tommy Pearson's Forge.
Happy Days!
Another balloon site was on Pyebank Rec', just beyond the first set of stumps, around the corner from top of Fox St, back of the beer off.
little malc 03-06-2009, 18:47 The bus trailers and the cars with gas bags on the roof were using coal gas, the same as all houses were supplied with at that time, not sure what conversion had to be done to the engine.
little Malc
As a matter of interest they were still running cars particularly taxi's in Barcelona in 1958.
Barcelona has come a long way since those days.
Happy Days!
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