hiya

as i dont get out too much these days i wondered how common drink spiking is?

the reason i ask is that i was out in another city with a friend this weekend who after only 3 glasses of wine collapsed and we had to go by ambulance to A&E where we spent the night before being discharged the next day?

Is this a one off or something that happens regularly?

I've heard that Birmingham has a bad reputation for this.

I certainly know of a couple of people this has happened to; I suspect it once happened to me also. I was quite drunk, but my entire personality changed apparrently. I'm normally a very happy drunk, but on this occasion acted oddly, and didn't recognise my then partner or a close friend! I hadn't drunk anymore than I normally would (at that time in my life! :blush:), and I had a terrible hangover that lasted about three days.

K x

more and more regularly. I know of several people it has happened to in numerous places around the country in the last year.

it was really scary thinking what might of happened - she was almost paralysed! it was in York

As a doorman I see it becoming more of a problem,I have noticed an increase in it of late.

happened to a friend of mine last weekend

My friend was spiked 2 weeks ago, though this was in a pub when she accidentally ended up with 'the wrong crowd' as opposed to in a nightclub where i think it is more common.

Wilf

Originally posted by redhotjo
it was really scary thinking what might of happened - she was almost paralysed! it was in York

It sounds like a date rape drug then Jo; looks like your mate had a lucky escape!

K x

This issue discussed many times over the last few months on the forum.
'Mimicraze' used to post regularly about this here, but I think the threads got well pruned because of possible legal implications. This is the only thread left I found on 'search'
Here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15013&highlight=drinks+spiked/)

Good job your friend had you there.

There was a documentary about drink spiking a couple of months ago on BBC one, I don't know if you'll find it on the archive. But it basically said that drink spiking is on the increase. It also said that the police are not geared up to it.

Its happened to me and a mate of mine. Neither of us were lucky to escape the situation. In my case I just blanked out after one pint of cider and one glass of red wine. I've never blanked out since. And used to regularly drink seven pints. The thing is I went out on my own and allowed a stranger to buy me a drink. Very stupid I know. Now I always go out with mates, and always guard my drink. If I leave my drink unattended I ask a mate to keep an eye on it.

Originally posted by Zenmaster
The thing is I went out on my own and allowed a stranger to buy me a drink.

Foolish yes, but lots of us have done it, myself included in the past.

Originally posted by Zenmaster
Now I always go out with mates, and always guard my drink. If I leave my drink unattended I ask a mate to keep an eye on it.

Much more sensible!

K x

it's been happening a lot in Sydney.It's so common the govment made TV ads warning people to watch their drinks

On tonight"s news they said there are approx 4000 incidents of drink spiking in oz. Half of witch go unreported.most commited on young women who woke up in parkes or back streets half naked and raped. Unable to remember anything.

Presuming that the ones doing the spiking are men ... it's not only scarey, it's very sad that a human being should be so uncaring of another person to do something like that, and then just abandon them somewhere. Although, I presume, like most rapists, they have some twisted reasoning justifying their actions.

Doesn't anyone ever see these things happening and intervene? As a man, if you saw something suspicious happening with someone's drink - would you tell someone about it ... doorstaff, barstaff. the person themself? Or would you think, well - all's fair etc etc ....

As a doorperson, would you take steps to secure the spikee's wellbeing or just let them out of the club, as has been remarked on previously?

I'm curious as to entertainment venue's policies on matters such as this.

Not denying the reality of what other people have posted here, but I have never, ever heard of this happening to anyone I know.

Maybe it's more common in some kinds of going-out scenes than in others.

Originally posted by Kristian
It sounds like a date rape drug then Jo; looks like your mate had a lucky escape!

K x

The date/rape drug of which you speak is named Rohypnol and is quite common. Apparently I have heard of a case where someones drink was spiked using a horse tranquliser and considering weight ratio this would be extremely dangerous.

Iam glad to say that although frequently getting drunk this has never happened to me. However I dont think I leave my drink long enough for it to get spiked!!!

Where I work (a well known Accident and Emergency Dept. in Sheffield) we get an awful lot of people (mostly females, but also men) on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights come in between 11pm-3am who complain of having their drink spiked. It is notoriously difficult to prove this as tests are not very specific/accurate etc but I would say that going by signs/symptoms/knowledge of the staff on duty, that about 90% of these patients have not been spiked at all. Some are either just very drunk but cant understand how they can be that drunk after just 3 drinks (what some of them forget is that it was 3 treble vodkas i.e 9 shots in the space of an hour) some have a bad reaction to alcohol or indeed some of the additives to alcoholic drinks such as alcopops and some have symptoms relating to high blood pressure from drinking too much, being too hot etc etc. However we do find that some people have been 'spiked' ie have ingested drugs without knowing about it -its worth noting that in a study it was found that 75% of basins and the tops of toilets in clubs were found to have cociane residue on them. What I mean is that there are drugs in clubs and it can be possible to ingest these (obviously not insinuating that everyone goes around licking the tops of toilets!) and if you've never taken cocaine before then even a bit will have a dramatic effect on you, the same for Ecstasy. I think that the actual practice of going around clubs, specifically targeting people and then dropping something into their drink is rarer. However it does happen, especially in the summer months, and again it is mostly women who are the targets. I know there are measures in the pipeline to educate Bar Staff/Doormen in what to do in these types of situations, with regards to first aid, care of the victim and police involvement etc. But the only real way to be safe is to do what my dear mum always used to tell me to do when I was 17 and first went out drinking - 'buy a bottled drink and keep your thumb over it when you're not drinking from it'

Originally posted by technophobe
The date/rape drug of which you speak is named Rohypnol and is quite common. Apparently I have heard of a case where someones drink was spiked using a horse tranquliser and considering weight ratio this would be extremely dangerous.

Iam glad to say that although frequently getting drunk this has never happened to me. However I dont think I leave my drink long enough for it to get spiked!!!

it is unlikely to be rohypnol, as this is very hard to obtain due to all the controversey in the press..

rohypnol belongs to a family of drugs known as benzodiazepines, which includes drugs such as valium (diazepam) and clonazepam.. these are used to treat stress, insomnia, etc. as they have a relaxing and calming effect on the body.. the stronger benzos are used to treat epilepsy, as their relaxant qualities are strong enough to prevent fits.. rohypnol is at the strongist end of the spectrum, and is so "effective" that it can cause you to fall into a deep, unbreakable sleep.. this effect is exaccerbated by the combination with alcohol, a muscle relaxant..

as it is used to treat so many conditions, it is quite easy to obtain some of the more common benzos (valium, rivitrol, temazepam, etc.).. even if you can't blag your doctor into prescribing them, there are unscrupulous pharmacies where you can buy them "without prescription".. i would imagine it is these more common benzos which people are misusing..

early side effects would include drowsyness, a sense of comfort and relaxation, and possible blurry (or "slowed down") vision.. the problem is, the sensation is very similar to that of being drunk.. however, it is noticeably different.. it's hard to explain, but if you find yourself feeling drunk but heavy/sluggish (instead of hyperactive, like most people do when they're having fun) then i would advise finding a friend immediately..

the other thing you touched on was the use of ketamine, or other psychoactive/stimulant drugs (amphetamine, mdma, etc.).. these all have different effects, but they are quite extreme and certainly a different sensation to being drunk.. i suppose the spiker's intent here would be to impair your judgement using these drugs, and because you would be unaware you were high you might associate this lovely new feeling with being with that person.. this might cause you to do things with them you would not normally consider.. if ever you start to experience any sensation you are not familiar with, even if it is just extreme elation, i would recommend finding a friend immediately.. don't get yourself in a panic, just find some friends and you'll be fine..

i know a few people who have been spiked, including my ex-gf.. fortunately, as far as we could tell nothing serious had come of it (i.e. no assaults involved), but it is worrying that it seems to be on the increase..

I am a man and had my drink spike in Cusco Peru. I was in a nightclub and was chatted up by a very attractive peruvian girl who introduced me to her friends. Luckily I saw a very clever sleight of hand as something went in my drink as one of them shoojk hands with me and I didn't drink it. The girl started suggesting I drink up and take her back to my hotel, where I have no doubt whatsoever that I would have woken up with the hotel room stripped bare.


Very clever I might add, targetting young drunk men with a gorgeous south american beauty.

i've been spiked before in a night club in summer, i was out with friends, while we go from pub to pub i normally drink alcopop bottles then in the night club vodka & OJ.

in my younger years i've taken many drugs so fortunatley whoever spiked me spiked me with an E, i knew straight away that i'd been spiked & what with so knew how to handle the situation, they were stupid because to me it was a free high. but to someone who's never had pills before it would have been a very frightning ordeal as rushing can be very terrafiying.

there has also been increased use of this kind of thing among the rich boys and girls of the world. There was a huge article in Marie Claire a while ago about it. THe article particularly focus on the grandson of Max Factor. He had used some sort of drug to spike girls, take them back to his house, rape them and have them wake up in the morning without a clue what had gone on. Because of his status no-one ever believed he could do this kind of thing. His mistake was he videoed every time he did it and so there was the evidence.
Last i heard he'd skipped bail and was found guilty and sentence in his absence. There are many more such stories like this, we just don't get to hear about them.

I'm fairly certain I had a drink spiked in Lincoln about a year and a half ago. I'd had a bit to drink but not much but became extremely unwell and someone took me home. I could barely walk and managed to tear a ligament in my ankle on the way by tripping over on my 4 inch heels.

I have absolutely no recollection of anything after queueing to get into the club, other than waking up the next morning and being unable to put my foot on the floor because it was so painful, and being unsure why (I didn't know I'd fallen over until someone told me later) spent the rest of the morning in A&E.

I had my drink spiked in the Leadmill about a year ago. I cannot remember a single thing and it scares me! I have been told what happened that night by my friend who was with me and as she knew something was wrong with me she did not leave my side all night. She had gone to the bar for the drinks (first drink of the night) and some lads had offered to buy them. She ordered and let them pay. Usually when i go to a club i will drink bottles as i was aware of these sort of things, but as Jacana had ordered the drinks she got a spirit and a mixer.

My friend told me that i was throwing glasses at her, then i would just black out and fall to the floor. Everytime i did this i cut my arms and legs on the glass. The lads that had bought us the drinks kept saying that they would take me outside for some fresh air but my mate wouldnt let them near me. She locked me in a cubicle in the toilets and asked someone to get a member of doorstaff. When they came she explained that that i was not normally anything like this. She also pointed out the lads that had bought the drinks and the doorstaff held them to one side. Seeing as i had very bad cuts on my legs and lots of glass stuck in my arms and had no idea what i had taken the doorstaff rang the police and an ambulance. It took 4 doormen to carry me to the ambulance as i was freaking out, then going limp, then freaking out, then going limp.....

The next evening (24 hours later) i woke up in the hospital and had no idea what had gone on! The last thing i knew we were ordering drinks in the leadmill! The doctors told me that i had been spiked with liquid extacy aka GHB. GHB is an odorless, colorless, liquid depressant with anesthetic qualities. It is also used as an amino acid by bodybuilders. GHB is usually distributed as a sodium salt in powder or tablet form commonly dissolved in water. This drug gives a feeling of relaxation, tranquillity, sensuality, fear, paranoya and loss off inhibitions (especially for women). The drug takes effect 10 - 15 minutes after ingestion and lasts 2 - 3 hours unless combined with alcohol, where effect may last 20 - 30 hours. Large doses can induce sudden sleep within 5 - 10 minutes.

It really scared me as someone could have spiked me, took me somewhere and raped me, then brought me back to the club the next night and i would have honestly thought that i had dosed off for a minute!!!!

Originally posted by AGB1:
its worth noting that in a study it was found that 75% of basins and the tops of toilets in clubs were found to have cociane residue on them.

Can you reference this "study"?

Originally posted by Lickszz
I've heard that Birmingham has a bad reputation for this.

In Birmingham there are police going round dip testing girls drinks.
Had mine tested three times in one night, dont know if its all areas or just the main drag down Broad Street.

Originally posted by brummy_tracy
In Birmingham there are police going round dip testing girls drinks.
Had mine tested three times in one night, dont know if its all areas or just the main drag down Broad Street.

yeah, i'm from stafford and as i say i know a few girls who have been spiked so maybe it's more proliferant in the west mids..

It happened to a friend and I a couple of years ago. We were in a pub in Hampshire. Someone who my friend had known for 10 years put something in our drinks. I wasn't drinking alcohol so it affected me differently. I felt very spaced out to start with and my friend passed out in the pub,. I couldn't understand why my friend got so drunk so easily and why I felt unfit to drive. Her so called friend drove us back to her place. As I was still aware of what was going on after he carried my friend to her bedroom and left the house. I knew something was totally not right. I began to feel more and more strange. Everything was feeling more and more unreal but I managed to crawl down stairs as I knew he'd done something to the front door. My mind wasn't functioning properly but I managed to put the chain on the door. He had pressed the button that keeps the latch open but my confused mind wouldn't focus enough for me to just latch the door again. I vomited and started shaking but I didn't feel at all nauseous. I was worried sick my friend was going to die. After I struggled to use her telephone for about an hour, she came to, her eyes were like saucers.

To this day I don't know what this guy gave us. Someone who knew him said he was well known around the area for putting heroin into girls drinks. I have no idea if thats what it was. It was a very scary experience.

Originally posted by redhotjo
[B]hiya

as i dont get out too much these days i wondered how common drink spiking is?

Very. Think 'Von Dutch'...

I know that in a certain nightclub which name I've now removed there used to be a member of the bar staff who spiked people's drinks. I haven't seen him in there for about a year though so he must have been sacked. My friend had her drink spiked at the bar and within 30mins couldn't move, swallow or speak. There was no way that she'd drunk enough to end up in that state. She went to the toilet saying she felt sick and collapsed, the bouncers had to carry her out and one of them said instantly that she'd been spiked and phoned an ambulance. The ambulance came after about 30mins and after examining her just said she'd had too much to drink! I'm not having a go at the ambulance crew becuase I know that they have a difficult job, my dad's an ambulance man. However, both them and the hospital refused to listen to us when we said she'd had her drink spiked and left her overnight then sent her home.

Whatever this drug was it was strong enough to make her completely unable to move and even swallow, and she has no memory of that night at all.

I know which barman it was becuase a few weeks later my friend was sat on my other (male) friend's knee quite drunk. She went to the toilet and a barman sat next to my friend and said 'would you like to buy something to put in her drink so you can take her home and f*** her'. My friend told him where to go, then told me to make sure he didn't move so he could find a bouncer and tell them what happened. As soon as my friend moved the bloke did a runner, and the next week HIS drink was spiked by the same barman, obviously to stop him from telling anyone and to get him banned.

I think drink spiking is a lot more common then people realise, it's happened to 3 of my mates within the last few years!

Originally posted by NicolaE
I know that in ******there used to be a member of the bar staff who spiked people's drinks. I haven't seen him in there for about a year though so he must have been sacked. My friend had her drink spiked at the bar and within 30mins couldn't move, swallow or speak. There was no way that she'd drunk enough to end up in that state.....

Not disputing your account of what happened, but I would be careful what you post in terms of establishment names as that could be construed as libel.

I've just heard this weekend about situations where it has been used as a technique to loosen tongues to get PIN details from people before taking credit cards etc.

ok ,I've edited my post! Can you take the name of of my qoute on your post! Yeah I thought about not putting the name but they've been slagged off so much on here before I thought I'd put it anyway!

No problem, done. Yeah they do get moaned about a lot, unfortunately there is a fine line between that and writing something which they could potentially sue you for!.

True! Ok, thanks for pointing that out!

Originally posted by rubydazzler
Presuming that the ones doing the spiking are men ... it's not only scarey, it's very sad that a human being should be so uncaring of another person to do something like that, and then just abandon them somewhere. Although, I presume, like most rapists, they have some twisted reasoning justifying their actions.

Doesn't anyone ever see these things happening and intervene? As a man, if you saw something suspicious happening with someone's drink - would you tell someone about it ... doorstaff, barstaff. the person themself? Or would you think, well - all's fair etc etc ....

As a doorperson, would you take steps to secure the spikee's wellbeing or just let them out of the club, as has been remarked on previously?

I'm curious as to entertainment venue's policies on matters such as this.


i work as a door supervisor at a large club in sheff - if we suspect someone has had there drink spiked a member of the door team will stop with them til there friends are found and the police are on the scene..........!!!!!!!!!!

It happened to me :( luckily I was with friends, I was fine one minute, lucid and chatty the next I just collapsed. Doormen thought I was drunk but Id only had a couple of drinks. Friend got some help to get me in a taxi, she had to put me in bed and everything. I had no control of my body and just kept flopping to the ground. I was violently ill all the next day.

Latest from the police:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6152646.stm

My gf's old job required her to get up early and be out for a large part of the day. She didn't want to just work her whole life (who would) so would insist that we go out and do something on a Friday or Saturday night, often both. About once every fortnight for the past 2 years she's fallen asleep at a pub/cinema/club early in the night, usually after around 2 pints. I'm sure that there must be people who think I've done something to her drink!

Morning All

I've been spiked on 2 occasions once in WOW when I was 18 I'd only had half my drink I felt sick I couldn't see straight I was home for 11pm I was petrified I couldn't sleep I felt my heart beating really fast in my chest it was awful.

The second time was in republic I was about 20 I'd just finished work at Empire bar at about 12am I had 2 vodka and redbulls and I was gone I can't remember a thing. I woke up with scratch marks down my face my friends told me I became really violent and started a fight with 2 girls. Anyone that knows me knows I don't get in fights I am such a weakling. I bought my first drink myself the second one was bought by a friend but he didn't buy it for me he bought it for one of my friends she didn't want it and gave it to me.

I always buy my own drinks and dont accept any off strangers. If someone does offer to buy me a drink I go with them to the bar. :suspect:

Because I've worked in bars and nightclubs I have seen loads of girls who in my opinion have been spiked it's not a pretty sight I can tell you. I don't know how people can do it to other people

There has been a report out recently, it was in the news this morning saying that a lot of people think they have been spiked but actually they just drank too much. Im not disputing anyones claim that they have been spiked, but the police reckon that its not as common as people think. However, the more publicity it gets the better i suppose.

Not denying the reality of what other people have posted here, but I have never, ever heard of this happening to anyone I know.

Maybe it's more common in some kinds of going-out scenes than in others.

I totally agree with this.

During 12 years of fairly hardcore clubbing, across a broad spectrum of genres, and in some of the seediest dives around, I have never, ever, heard of or seen anyone have their drink spiked.

Personally, I just don’t buy it. The truth is, it’s easier to say your drink has been spiked, than admit to being a lightweight and / or embarrassingly drunk.

Also, from a practical point of view, why would a stranger spend money on a drug, just to slip it into someone's drink and then walk off? It doesn't make any sense.

I totally agree with this.

During 12 years of fairly hardcore clubbing, across a broad spectrum of genres, and in some of the seediest dives around, I have never, ever, heard of or seen anyone have their drink spiked. [QUOTE/]

Same here (though not 12 years, only 5 or 6!)

[QUOTE=mikebayly] Personally, I just don’t buy it. The truth is, it’s easier to say your drink has been spiked, than admit to being a lightweight and / or embarrassingly drunk.




I think thats exactly what the police were saying.

The story this morning has been misinterpreted. Of course it's true that far more sexual assaults and rapes are due to excessive alcohol intake than 'date rape' drugs, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

It also doesn't take into account the number of drinks that are spiked 'for the fun of it' with no intention of sexual assault. In a case I discussed earlier, a club local to me, there was a spate of spikings that was confirmed by the police. They believed somebody was doing it just to watch the state victims got into.

In addition, the statistics do not reflect the story. There were 120 alleged drug victims studied. They only found evidence of alcohol use in 52% of these. GHB and Rohypnol are very quickly eliminated from the body, if no alcohol was detected then they are not going to find evidence of the drugs in tests either. Just over 8% were found to have been drugged. This is still a significant number.

The story this morning has been misinterpreted. Of course it's true that far more sexual assaults and rapes are due to excessive alcohol intake than 'date rape' drugs, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

It also doesn't take into account the number of drinks that are spiked 'for the fun of it' with no intention of sexual assault. In a case I discussed earlier, a club local to me, there was a spate of spikings that was confirmed by the police. They believed somebody was doing it just to watch the state victims got into.

In addition, the statistics do not reflect the story. There were 120 alleged drug victims studied. They only found evidence of alcohol use in 52% of these. GHB and Rohypnol are very quickly eliminated from the body, if no alcohol was detected then they are not going to find evidence of the drugs in tests either. Just over 8% were found to have been drugged. This is still a significant number.

I am not saying for a second it doesn't happen. But for every clubber who has been unwittingly drugged, there are ten who just cant handle their alcopops.

Just over 8% were found to have been drugged. This is still a significant number.

Not really considering they were all alleged cases.

Could someone answer me this question.

Why, as appears to be documented on this thread, would someone spike another persons drink simply 'for a laugh'?

[QUOTE=mikebayly]Personally, I just don’t buy it. The truth is, it’s easier to say your drink has been spiked, than admit to being a lightweight and / or embarrassingly drunk.QUOTE]

What about the people that can handle their drink? :confused:

Could someone answer me this question.

Why, as appears to be documented on this thread, would someone spike another persons drink simply 'for a laugh'?


Thats like asking "why would someone beat someone up" or rob their phone or even murder someone. Seems crazy to the majority of us but sadly morons do exist.

Thats like asking "why would someone beat someone up" or rob their phone or even murder someone. Seems crazy to the majority of us but sadly morons do exist.

True. But then people who spike are paying money for this privelage as well.

I stand by what I say. Never seen it happen in 12 years of clubbing, and never heard of it happening either.

A Kentucky fried Mouse if ever I saw it.

[QUOTE=mikebayly]Personally, I just don’t buy it. The truth is, it’s easier to say your drink has been spiked, than admit to being a lightweight and / or embarrassingly drunk.QUOTE]

What about the people that can handle their drink? :confused:

I have seen heavy drinkers floored by 4 pints of stella.

I have seen seasoned dope smokers pull a whitey after one drag.

Only an arrogant fool would say they are in control of drugs, not the other way round.

My mum was spiked with the 'date rape' drug when she was out a few years ago. She hardly woke up for about 3 days, it was awful! Luckily she was with her friends, god knows what could have happened to her.

I totally agree with this.

During 12 years of fairly hardcore clubbing, across a broad spectrum of genres, and in some of the seediest dives around, I have never, ever, heard of or seen anyone have their drink spiked.

Personally, I just don’t buy it. The truth is, it’s easier to say your drink has been spiked, than admit to being a lightweight and / or embarrassingly drunk.

Also, from a practical point of view, why would a stranger spend money on a drug, just to slip it into someone's drink and then walk off? It doesn't make any sense.

As a professional who deals with these "spiking" incidents every weekend I have to agree with every point mentioned above.

People use the "drink spiked" chestnut to try to excuse the fact that they have gone out and drank past their limits.

This is a view shared not only by us, but by A&E staff and the police. When you hear "their drink's been spiked" from every single pi$$head, you become very cynical very fast.

For the one person in ten thousand that might actually have had their drink spiked - bad luck. Too many people cry wolf, and the NHS can't aford toxicology reports on every person presenting with intoxication.

As a professional who deals with these "spiking" incidents every weekend I have to agree with every point mentioned above.

People use the "drink spiked" chestnut to try to excuse the fact that they have gone out and drank past their limits.

This is a view shared not only by us, but by A&E staff and the police. When you hear "their drink's been spiked" from every single pi$$head, you become very cynical very fast.

For the one person in ten thousand that might actually have had their drink spiked - bad luck. Too many people cry wolf, and the NHS can't aford toxicology reports on every person presenting with intoxication.

:thumbsup:

It happened to me :( luckily I was with friends, I was fine one minute, lucid and chatty the next I just collapsed. Doormen thought I was drunk but Id only had a couple of drinks. Friend got some help to get me in a taxi, she had to put me in bed and everything. I had no control of my body and just kept flopping to the ground. I was violently ill all the next day.
It sounds very much like my experience. Do you know what you were drugged with?

I'm just damn lucky that I hadn't consumed any alcohol that night!:o

As a professional who deals with these "spiking" incidents every weekend I have to agree with every point mentioned above.

People use the "drink spiked" chestnut to try to excuse the fact that they have gone out and drank past their limits.

This is a view shared not only by us, but by A&E staff and the police. When you hear "their drink's been spiked" from every single pi$$head, you become very cynical very fast.

For the one person in ten thousand that might actually have had their drink spiked - bad luck. Too many people cry wolf, and the NHS can't aford toxicology reports on every person presenting with intoxication. Crazy duo!!!

Do you know, not everone drinks alcohol?

Can you explain how the staff at A&E and the police just assume a person is crying wolf?

Why would a person claim to have been drugged just because they had too much to drink? I would think the majority of people would go home, sleep it off, wake up with a hangover and blame it on a bad take-away!

Crazy duo!!!

Do you know, not everone drinks alcohol?

Can you explain how the staff at A&E and the police just assume a person is crying wolf?

Why would a person claim to have been drugged just because they had too much to drink? I would think the majority of people would go home, sleep it off, wake up with a hangover and blame it on a bad take-away!

These stats are are cases where the women had been raped and climed to have been drugged. It turns out that they were mostly just drunk. The facts seem to suggest that women are taken advantage of because they are drunk not because they are drugged. This means that it is dunkeness that needs to be tacked not the spiking of drinks. It seems that there are still people on the forum who don't want to hear this.

I totally agree with this.

During 12 years of fairly hardcore clubbing, across a broad spectrum of genres, and in some of the seediest dives around, I have never, ever, heard of or seen anyone have their drink spiked.

Personally, I just don’t buy it. The truth is, it’s easier to say your drink has been spiked, than admit to being a lightweight and / or embarrassingly drunk.

Also, from a practical point of view, why would a stranger spend money on a drug, just to slip it into someone's drink and then walk off? It doesn't make any sense.

Virtually what I was going to say - I don't doubt it goes on but nowhere near the levels that everyone thinks.

I've been clubbing all over the place in all sorts of clubs and I've never come across it.

What does it matter, If a person is drunk or dugged, do they deserve to be raped?

What if it's a man that's raped because he'd had 10 pints, would you have the same opinion?

Most people don't report being sexually abused, so how can you use statistics? I've just answered the last question myself!

Who said anything about deserving to be raped - nobody deserves to be raped ever, whatever their sex.

The topic is spiking drinks and how common it really is. My personal opinion is that it's not as common as the media would have us believe (surprise, surprise) and that a lot of people don't seem to realise just how powerful a drug alcohol is.

Who said anything about deserving to be raped - nobody deserves to be raped ever, whatever their sex.

The topic is spiking drinks and how common it really is. My personal opinion is that it's not as common as the media would have us believe (surprise, surprise) and that a lot of people don't seem to realise just how powerful a drug alcohol is.Oh, I sense a 'change of tune' from what you posted earlier. Crying wolf? Too ashamed to admit being drunk, so blame it on drugs? Why would a person bother to report that? I'm curious but I'm not trying to argue wih you.

A change of tune? I haven't posted anything different - I don't believe that a lot of people who think they have been spiked actually have. I never said anything about crying wolf either - they probably think they have been spiked but it doesn't mean they have.

There's nights when I've gone out and drunk a shed load and got up feeling fine the next day. There's also times I've gone out and hardly drunk anything only to wake up feeling like death.

Not very common i imagine. I don't know anybody (or of anybody) that has ever been spiked - that's after 20 years of bars and clubbing :thumbsup:

A change of tune? I haven't posted anything different - I don't believe that a lot of people who think they have been spiked actually have. I never said anything about crying wolf either - they probably think they have been spiked but it doesn't mean they have.

There's nights when I've gone out and drunk a shed load and got up feeling fine the next day. There's also times I've gone out and hardly drunk anything only to wake up feeling like death.Sorry, I'm must have got your posts mixed up with someone elses. No offence intended:(

Crazy duo!!!

Do you know, not everone drinks alcohol?

Can you explain how the staff at A&E and the police just assume a person is crying wolf?

Why would a person claim to have been drugged just because they had too much to drink? I would think the majority of people would go home, sleep it off, wake up with a hangover and blame it on a bad take-away!

The general consensus seems to be that people claim they have been spiked because they are too embarrassed or too stubborn/conceited to admit they have drank past their limits.

The press gives the impression that drink spiking is commonplace, people jump on that as an excuse for their irresponsible actions.

They feel more justified calling an ambulance for a "spiked drink" than for their simply pi$$ed mate.

As I said before, when almost every drunk at A&E (or their mates) say their drink has been spiked, you get a little cynical. If there are clinical signs of anything more than plain drunkenness, or if the patient hasn't actually had any alcohol, then the claim is taken more seriously - but I have never ever seen this, and "spiked drinks" are a weekly occurrance up and down the country.

Sorry, I'm must have got your posts mixed up with someone elses. No offence intended:(

No problem :)

No problem :)Thanks. I was getting on my high horse with the wrong person. I'm a silly cow!;)

hiya

as i dont get out too much these days i wondered how common drink spiking is?

the reason i ask is that i was out in another city with a friend this weekend who after only 3 glasses of wine collapsed and we had to go by ambulance to A&E where we spent the night before being discharged the next day?

Is this a one off or something that happens regularly?was she spiked then-or did the drink just really not agree with her. Was she drinking form bottles?? i urge everyone to WIPE bottles b4 drinking-ive worked in bars/clubs... ive seen the rats....urghhhhh!
I have never known anyone get spiked....and i used to go clubbing all the time and know lots of people-or used too, b4 i got old!

I was spiked when I was 16 and ended up in hospital but I do still think it's rare.

Scared the living daylights out of me so from that age I never let my drink out of my sight and always keep an eye on all of my friends. I'd rather buy one of them a new drink then for them to end up in hospital! It's not just that though, somebody could offer you some of their drink which is actually full of the stuff (that's what happened to me).

Unfortunately, a lot of people wake up the morning after a night out and half remember a bad experience or remember feeling really ill and odd while they were out but this doesn't mean you were spiked! Lack of eating before and during food, mixing your drinks or feeling under the weather can make you feel this way.

I was lucky I had good mates with me as they got me to hospital when I collapsed. GHB makes your limbs feel like they are jelly so this would be a sign to watch out for. I went pretty numb too and couldn't say much.

I can see why people use it to date rape as I remember nothing of being in hospital even though I was conscious for most of it I was told. Some people do it just to see what will happen to them I think and don't fully realise it can kill somebody.

Could someone answer me this question.

Why, as appears to be documented on this thread, would someone spike another persons drink simply 'for a laugh'?

I knew the lad who gave me GHB. I highly doubt there was any intent of assault as we noticed he baggered off very quickly. It's a horrible fact but some people do do this for fun. Some don't even know the power of the drug in large quantities! I go out clubbing a lot (it didn't put me off!) and you do see a lot of ignorance about drugs.

she was drinking from small wine glasses - they werent even large. It was after a meal. There is no way this was just drink.

I knew the lad who gave me GHB. I highly doubt there was any intent of assault as we noticed he baggered off very quickly. It's a horrible fact but some people do do this for fun. Some don't even know the power of the drug in large quantities! I go out clubbing a lot (it didn't put me off!) and you do see a lot of ignorance about drugs.

He 'gave you GHB'

Do you mean

a) you consented to being given it

or

b) he slipped it into your drink without you realising it

Also, was he a friend, or just someone you had seen around?

What do you mean? Yes I consented to being given the drink but I didn't know there was GHB in it.

He was not a friend, but someone I had known for 5 years.

I know I wasn't exactly careful that ngiht but maybe my story will make others be more careful

What do you mean? Yes I consented to being given the drink but I didn't know there was GHB in it.

He was not a friend, but someone I had known for 5 years.

I know I wasn't exactly careful that ngiht but maybe my story will make others be more careful

Do you know WHY he did this?

And, forgive me for being nosey, what relationship was this person to you? (i.e. in what context could you know someone for 5 years but not be a friend)

I don't know why, no.

I'd known him at school for 5 years. He definately wasn't a mate but we had nothing against each other as far as I could tell! I'm sure you've known someone for a while ie colleague or friend of a friend but you're not acually mates?

I don't know why, no.

I'd known him at school for 5 years. He definately wasn't a mate but we had nothing against each other as far as I could tell! I'm sure you've known someone for a while ie colleague or friend of a friend but you're not acually mates?

Fair enough - was just curious.

Seems a very odd, and very unusual thing to do. It if was me, and I knew the perpetrator, I would be demanding answers as to why someone decided to gamble with my life.

I see your point but these things are also very hard to prove. Also I doubt he would have been interested in what I had to say and I probably wouldn't have been interested in his excuses! You just have to learn from it.

I'm sure it's not as unusal as you'd think... People have all sorts of strange motives and some people just don't care about consequences