£2000 fine for having too many loan players , is it fair or has mr richards helped them out ?

£2000 fine for having too many loan players , is it fair or has mr richards helped them out ?


nothing would surprise me after brooking / tevez affair.

wendy should have been docked the point they took of stoke but its who yer know.

I think it was fair... although i'm not at all convinced that it was a mistake.

nothing would surprise me after brooking / tevez affair.

wendy should have been docked the point they took of stoke but its who yer know.

Give it a rest.

Leeds were fined for naming too many loan players, therefore we were promptly fined and we accepted it.

Why exactly should be have deserved a point to be docked?

I'd understand if an earlier case had resulted in points being dropped. But you're just looking at it through the eyes of a blade.

How could Mr Richards have helped Owls out? He is from the Premier League and it was the Football Association that handed out the fine. As a Blade I think it would have been unfair to dock Owls the points however I do think that there may have been a bit of underhandedness (is that even a word?) in this situation. Surely a club of Wednesday's 'stature' would never have made such an accidental mistake?

Surely a club of Wednesday's 'stature' would never have made such an accidental mistake?

What are you talking about?

ANY club can make a mistake!

(Not saying whether the loan fiasco was a mistake or intentional- purely because we'll never know)

Give it a rest.

Leeds were fined for naming too many loan players, therefore we were promptly fined and we accepted it.

Why exactly should be have deserved a point to be docked?

I'd understand if an earlier case had resulted in points being dropped. But you're just looking at it through the eyes of a blade.


leeds lost the game so it did'nt matter. you gained a point so surely the fairest way would be to take it off you so you dont do it again.

leeds lost the game so it did'nt matter. you gained a point so surely the fairest way would be to take it off you so you dont do it again.

I'm pretty sure that they won't do it again!

The punishment was set with what Leeds did, regardless of the result.

Give it a rest.

Leeds were fined for naming too many loan players, therefore we were promptly fined and we accepted it.

Why exactly should be have deserved a point to be docked?

I'd understand if an earlier case had resulted in points being dropped.


There has been no earlier case of a team naming too many loan players in the squad [/i]and securing points from the game.[/i]

Usually, when a team breaks the rules and secures a point (or three), the result is either voided and the match played again, or forfeited to the other side. (Witness, games played with an unregistered player, for an example off the top of my head.) In this case, since not all six loan players actually got on the pitch, the FA have clearly decided it wasn't a big enough breach to justify that. If all six had played, I would've expected the result to be annulled.

I'm pretty sure that they won't do it again!

The punishment was set with what Leeds did, regardless of the result.

And how do you know that Leeds weren't docked all the points they gained from that game? How could you tell, since the number of points was zero? :huh:

And how do you know that Leeds weren't docked all the points they gained from that game? How could you tell, since the number of points was zero? :huh:

Erm...if they were to be punished for fielding too many loan players- they could have just docked point/s anyway.

REGARDLESS of the result, which is what I'm saying, a punishment had been set for the rule that we had broke! The result does not enter into it.

"Sheffield Wednesday have been fined £2,000 after breaking Football League rules on loan players."

It is NOT fielding and loaning too many loan players to secure a result.

You can moan and moan about this all you want, as you tend to when punishments have been dealt out.

There has been no earlier case of a team naming too many loan players in the squad [/i]and securing points from the game.[/i].

A game involving Swansea 5 years ago was an earlier case.

the fine is a big enough punishment for us, gonna have to sell a couple of unused seats

REGARDLESS of the result, which is what I'm saying, a punishment had been set for the rule that we had broke! The result does not enter into it.

Again .. how do you know?

The problem as I see it, is that if there is only a paltry fine, then it's almost carte blanche for other teams to say "Sod it. A couple of grand is nowt compared to staying up/going up."

The problem as I see it, is that if there is only a paltry fine, then it's almost carte blanche for other teams to say "Sod it. A couple of grand is nowt compared to staying up/going up."

That's where the defence of "they didn't all play" may apply. Put six loan players on the field and take points out of the game, and I don't think the FA would have much choice but to nullify the result.

As mentioned above, they can't deny Leeds the points gained in their particular instance, because there weren't any. That means nothing if a future case comes up where points were gained.

Seems that the only people complaining that Wednesday weren't given a point deduction are blades. Not heard anything from other teams. Everyone knew what the outcome would be given the precedent set by other teams.

Bitter? blades, never! ;)

What are you talking about?

ANY club can make a mistake!

(Not saying whether the loan fiasco was a mistake or intentional- purely because we'll never know)

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek. All the Owls fans I know constanly refer to them as a big club. However I doubt Man U, Liverpool or Arsenal would have made such a mistake.

Seems that the only people complaining that Wednesday weren't given a point deduction are blades.


Only person, I think you mean.

Only person, I think you mean.

no..........

[QUOTE=Ally68;3389188]Seems that the only people complaining that Wednesday weren't given a point deduction are blades. Not heard anything from other teams. Everyone knew what the outcome would be given the precedent set by other teams.

What are you on about?
If memory serves me correctly wasn't it one of those six players that scored the goal? If Laws can only name 5 loan players who is to say that Laws would have had him on the bench.
I think it would have been harsh to deduct point or points but lets not get away from the fact that you lot broke the rules, possibly not for the first time this season.

another wednesday thread started by a blade ?

[QUOTE=Ally68;3389188]Seems that the only people complaining that Wednesday weren't given a point deduction are blades. Not heard anything from other teams. Everyone knew what the outcome would be given the precedent set by other teams.

What are you on about?
If memory serves me correctly wasn't it one of those six players that scored the goal? If Laws can only name 5 loan players who is to say that Laws would have had him on the bench.
I think it would have been harsh to deduct point or points but lets not get away from the fact that you lot broke the rules, possibly not for the first time this season.


I never said that Wednesday didn't break the rules.

Glad to hear you agree with me that Wednesday didn't deserve a point deduction.

Glad to hear you agree with me that Wednesday didn't deserve a point deduction.[/QUOTE]
That is because with a neutral head i made this judgement.

another wednesday thread started by a blade ?

Stuck record ;)

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I never said that Wednesday didn't break the rules.

Glad to hear you agree with me that Wednesday didn't deserve a point deduction.

wednesday can now join west sham as a club getting away with breaking the rules and only getting a fine ;)

Stuck record ;)

yep.................................

That's where the defence of "they didn't all play" may apply. Put six loan players on the field and take points out of the game, and I don't think the FA would have much choice but to nullify the result.

As mentioned above, they can't deny Leeds the points gained in their particular instance, because there weren't any. That means nothing if a future case comes up where points were gained.

As far as I'm concerned, the sixteen players named are the team, and all should be able to be on the pitch at once. Whether they do or not is another matter.

An ineligible squad is an ineligible squad.

no..........

Check again. Bladebloke is the only person so far who has said they should have had a point docked.


*well he was, when I read your post and responded to it. Happyhippy has now joined him. I'll give you two, but you appear to have been psychic. At the time you made your post, there had only been one, and you WERE wrong.

As far as I'm concerned, the sixteen players named are the team, and all should be able to be on the pitch at once. Whether they do or not is another matter.

An ineligible squad is an ineligible squad.

As far as the FA are concerned, they aren't concerned about how far you're concerned. ;)

The £2,000 fine is fair as that's what the rule states at the moment.

But this needs changing play an ineligible player in the FA Cup (Bury last season) and you get kicked out. Name an ineligible team in the league and get fined £2,000 is not right.

Loan rules needs looking at all together doesn't seem right you can half a team of players that do not belong to your club. No I'm not having a go at Wednesday look at Stoke they must have had 15plus loan players this season, needs to go back to a limited number as it was a few seasons ago

[Loan rules needs looking at all together doesn't seem right you can half a team of players that do not belong to your club. No I'm not having a go at Wednesday look at Stoke they must have had 15plus loan players this season, needs to go back to a limited number as it was a few seasons ago[/QUOTE]

Would be a sensible idea.
If the limit was 3 players it would make teams promote their own youngsters.

Would be a sensible idea.
If the limit was 3 players it would make teams promote their own youngsters.

Problem with that is, all the promising youngsters have gone to the bigger teams already.