Do you ever wonder what would have happened, if you'd done something differently?
Could a wrong turn in your life, make you miss your fate……...make things go off track from where they were supposed to be?
Or is it the wrong turns that get you where you're supposed to be?

Ever seen that film - Sliding Doors - Fantastic film with this exact view in mind. Amazing!!!

I do however think if something is meant to be it doesnt matter which way you turn youll end up in the same place, one route just takes a little longer..... if that makes sense.
:loopy:

Originally posted by Cutglass
Do you ever wonder what would have happened, if you'd done something differently?

All the time lately :suspect:

Originally posted by Cutglass
Could a wrong turn in your life, make you miss your fate……...make things go off track from where they were supposed to be?

Yes I personally tend to think so..

Originally posted by Cutglass
Or is it the wrong turns that get you where you're supposed to be?

Yes, learn from mistakes...

I wasn't going to come to Uni this year.. I wasn't going to leave my job.. there was a promotion up at work and I was going to defer a year and take the promotion, a bit more money, more to save, and I was pursuaded by my parents that I should do the uni bit first, because the job would always be there for me when I finish if I wanted it (I was somewhat of a rising star! ;))

Anyway, it's the best thing I've ever done... Uni isn't anything special, and I'm doing it for the sake of doing it... but I've met somebody whose made me incredibly happy, and we're moving in together in July.. and from then on, who knows! The way things are, I can see us spending the rest of our lives together. It's meant to be, and if I'd taken the extra £10,000 a year I'd probably have never met her!

I don't miss the money at all! (I'm earning very little right now... so I've lost more than the £10,000 I'd have taken, but it simply doesn't matter... I'm quite happy!).

So yeah, what felt like the wrong turn at the time, actually turned out to be the right thing!

Originally posted by technophobe
Ever seen that film - Sliding Doors - Fantastic film with this exact view in mind. Amazing!!!


Also check Run Lola Run for similair theme

Originally posted by Hook
I wasn't going to come to Uni this year.. I wasn't going to leave my job.. there was a promotion up at work and I was going to defer a year and take the promotion, a bit more money, more to save, and I was pursuaded by my parents that I should do the uni bit first, because the job would always be there for me when I finish if I wanted it (I was somewhat of a rising star! ;))

Anyway, it's the best thing I've ever done... Uni isn't anything special, and I'm doing it for the sake of doing it... but I've met somebody whose made me incredibly happy, and we're moving in together in July.. and from then on, who knows! The way things are, I can see us spending the rest of our lives together. It's meant to be, and if I'd taken the extra £10,000 a year I'd probably have never met her!

I don't miss the money at all! (I'm earning very little right now... so I've lost more than the £10,000 I'd have taken, but it simply doesn't matter... I'm quite happy!).

So yeah, what felt like the wrong turn at the time, actually turned out to be the right thing!

:thumbsup: That's lovely to hear, Hook.

If something's meant to be it'll find a way. What's that saying, "what's meant for you won't go by you"?

I like to think so anyway!

StarSparkle :)

Originally posted by Hook
I wasn't going to come to Uni this year.. I wasn't going to leave my job.. there was a promotion up at work and I was going to defer a year and take the promotion, a bit more money, more to save, and I was pursuaded by my parents that I should do the uni bit first, because the job would always be there for me when I finish if I wanted it (I was somewhat of a rising star! ;))

Anyway, it's the best thing I've ever done... Uni isn't anything special, and I'm doing it for the sake of doing it... but I've met somebody whose made me incredibly happy, and we're moving in together in July.. and from then on, who knows! The way things are, I can see us spending the rest of our lives together. It's meant to be, and if I'd taken the extra £10,000 a year I'd probably have never met her!

I don't miss the money at all! (I'm earning very little right now... so I've lost more than the £10,000 I'd have taken, but it simply doesn't matter... I'm quite happy!).

So yeah, what felt like the wrong turn at the time, actually turned out to be the right thing!

Hook:

Well done for making the right decision!!!!

I'd rather have love than money anyday.

Its only the wrong track when you notice it, does fate never put you on the right track from the wrong track? I dont believe in any of it, you make a decission based on the facts you have when you make that decision. These could change immediately. So, I never look back, I have no regrets in my life as those decisions have made me what I am today.

I am a true believer of fate... Things happen for a reason in my books...

I moved to Sheffield to start a new life... along the way i have lost alot more than gained... but what i have gained is alot more special to me then my loss...

My gain being the love of my life... an that right now wouldnt change for the world... :blush:

Alot of things have also happened between the 2 of us an i think he would definitely agree with me on the fate side of things... :)

Our love is meant to be :D

Originally posted by BoppinBruce
Its only the wrong track when you notice it, does fate never put you on the right track from the wrong track? I dont believe in any of it, you make a decission based on the facts you have when you make that decision. These could change immediately. So, I never look back, I have no regrets in my life as those decisions have made me what I am today.

I definatly thought I was on the wrong track for the entire summer.. Especially when I saw the job adverts go up in the place I worked at for my job :( And then when it came to leaving and saying goodbye... and for the first month at Uni.. until I realised she was the one for me... and :clap:

Posts like Hook's and Angel05 are really more like the wrong turns taking you where you're meant to be and it's lovely when that happens :clap:

Originally posted by Cutglass
Posts like Hook's and Angel05 are really more like the wrong turns taking you where you're meant to be and it's lovely when that happens :clap:

Is that not fate... We took the wrong turn for a reason as fate was to come to our rescue... an lead us in the right direction...

Originally posted by technophobe
I'd rather have love than money anyday.

I would rather have both, but there again, I've always been a greedy cow! :D

K x

Originally posted by Cutglass
Do you ever wonder what would have happened, if you'd done something differently?
Could a wrong turn in your life, make you miss your fate...make things go off track from where they were supposed to be?
Or is it the wrong turns that get you where you're supposed to be?

You always get where you're supposed to be, because you are supposed to be whereever you are. I am not a believer in 'fate' as some kind of higher power. Sounds too much like determinism or predestination to me.

Everyone can make their own decisions in many things. In others, noone can make their own decision; things just happen without any involvement. What you make of them is what decides if you are happy, not if you were 'meant' to do it!

Interesting side question; if something is meant to be, who decided that it was meant to be? Or is that decision only made after it happens? For instance, you never here of situations where something was 'meant to be' and never was, do you? Except maybe in unrequited love stories in bad romance novels or films...

one of my friends decided in the summer to quit her crappy office job, and made up some excuse about wanting to travel. and when they realised they were going to lose one of their best employees they decided to make her a Roaming Executive (or something to that effect) and sent her to Europe. Now she's living in New York a few blocks from Time Square and having the time of her life.

Quit your crappy office jobs everyone!!

by the way i completely believe in fate...a way of not blaming myself for my decisions!
yes it was meant to be.nevermind.

If posters keep carrying on about Fate like this, God will not get a look-in. Isn't the Almighty responsible for everything that happens to us, not Fate? Have we lost the ability to make decisions and choices in life? Just a thought.

Originally posted by redrobbo
If posters keep carrying on about Fate like this, God will not get a look-in. Isn't the Almighty responsible for everything that happens to us, not Fate? Have we lost the ability to make decisions and choices in life? Just a thought.

God gave us free will though Red! That's why bad things still happen!

K x

Not everyone chooses to believe in god, it's a personal preference; god/fate/kharma/destiny whatever tag you want to put on it?
Rightly or wrongly, how people wish to interpret the actions and consequences of their lives is ultimately their choice and like everyone else, all anyone wants at the end of the day is a happy life.
Whether that happy life is attained by having their belief in god or having their belief in fate justified, who knows?
We're all individuals and we all have individual preferences, that is the choice of any single person with free will.

Fate meant for me to live in Sheffield......

A native Teessider back in 1991 I was made redundant due to a branch closure but given the option of redeployment to a Sheffield Branch which was expanding due to the re-structuring of the company.

I thought about it long and hard - my partner at the time worked for Balfour Beatty on the Channel Tunnel - his next job was Supertram!!! He encouraged me & thought it ideal with his job also coming to Sheffield but as I was not really that happy with the relationship I could not commit!!!

The relationship ended shortly afterwards & I took my redundancy & stayed in Middlesbrough!!

I found a new job & a year later I met a lad working in our office on a temporary contract - he was from Sheffield after we married I moved to Sheffield so ended up here afterall !!

I love it here!! I am very settled and happy to call Sheffield my home !!


:clap:

Originally posted by Cutglass
Or is it the wrong turns that get you where you're supposed to be? I believe in God. I therefore have faith that he has a plan for me, and do not believe in fate per se. I beleve that everything that happens in my life (take the crappy weekend for example) has a reason. I may not be able to see what that reason is right now - or ever - but my faith in God, and the things i have seen him do leave me with no doubt that i am where he wants me right now.

The events that happen in my life may not always be pleasant, and may at times be painful, both mentally and physically, but nevertheless they are part of his plan for my life, and these things are put in my way to teach me things.

As my signature says......Faith sees the invisible, believes the unbelievable, and receives the impossible.

Originally posted by Avalon
I believe in God. I therefore have faith that he has a plan for me, and do not believe in fate per se. I beleve that everything that happens in my life (take the crappy weekend for example) has a reason. I may not be able to see what that reason is right now - or ever - but my faith in God, and the things i have seen him do leave me with no doubt that i am where he wants me right now.

The events that happen in my life may not always be pleasant, and may at times be painful, both mentally and physically, but nevertheless they are part of his plan for my life, and these things are put in my way to teach me things.

Beautifully said, Avalon - I agree with what you said.

I believe in God, and use the terms Fate and Destiny to describe the manifestations in this world of His plans for the universe.

The terms you choose to use (fate, destiny, serendipity, synchronicity, etc) don't matter - the meaning behind them is what is important.

StarSparkle :)

i believe that fate can be altered - through choice - or usually through my Mark Darcy style stubborness! i need to relax:confused:

Originally posted by StarSparkle
Beautifully said, Avalon - I agree with what you said.

I believe in God, and use the terms Fate and Destiny to describe the manifestations in this world of His plans for the universe.

The terms you choose to use (fate, destiny, serendipity, synchronicity, etc) don't matter - the meaning behind them is what is important.

StarSparkle :)

Amen to that! :clap:

Originally posted by shieshuk
Fate meant for me to live in Sheffield......

A native Teessider back in 1991 I was made redundant due to a branch closure but given the option of redeployment to a Sheffield Branch which was expanding due to the re-structuring of the company.

I thought about it long and hard - my partner at the time worked for Balfour Beatty on the Channel Tunnel - his next job was Supertram!!! He encouraged me & thought it ideal with his job also coming to Sheffield but as I was not really that happy with the relationship I could not commit!!!

The relationship ended shortly afterwards & I took my redundancy & stayed in Middlesbrough!!

I found a new job & a year later I met a lad working in our office on a temporary contract - he was from Sheffield after we married I moved to Sheffield so ended up here afterall !!

I love it here!! I am very settled and happy to call Sheffield my home !!


:clap:

I'm a Yarmie through and through :clap:

Originally posted by Avalon
I believe in God. I therefore have faith that he has a plan for me, and do not believe in fate per se. I beleve that everything that happens in my life (take the crappy weekend for example) has a reason. I may not be able to see what that reason is right now - or ever - but my faith in God, and the things i have seen him do leave me with no doubt that i am where he wants me right now.

The events that happen in my life may not always be pleasant, and may at times be painful, both mentally and physically, but nevertheless they are part of his plan for my life, and these things are put in my way to teach me things.

As my signature says......Faith sees the invisible, believes the unbelievable, and receives the impossible.

Where does free will come into things then Avalon? :huh: Do you think it is just an illusion?

K x

Originally posted by Kristian
Where does free will come into things then Avalon? :huh: Do you think it is just an illusion?

K x

I wondered when this would come up. It is my belief that free will is an intergral part of your life. However, i have used MY free will to give my life to God to do with what he sees fit. Therefore he has a plan for me. He guides me along this plan, but if i face a cross roads and choose the wrong path, he will be patient and wait for me to get back on the RIGHT path. It is my belief that i a still free to choose, which is the nature of free will, but that God has a PLAN for my life, he knows where he wants me to be, and has put certain things into motion to get me there, but if i ignore the signs then that plan will not come to fruition - this is where free will comes in. I am free to choose.


Edit: I also believe that in certian circumstances God overrules our free will - but only if we have given our lives to him. This weekend for example: i would never have done what i did in a million years! I was just too scared of finding out the truth. But it is my belief that God overruled my free will and cuased me to decide to do it - because it was part of his plan......

Make Sense? :huh:

see also the Butterfly Effect, how things turn out so much differently by the simple things you do in life - it has a sad ending but the point is there. It really got to me actually!

I do believe in fate but i think it sometimes needs a little helping hand.

Originally posted by Kristian
Where does free will come into things then Avalon? :huh: Do you think it is just an illusion?

Ah, one of the great debates ;)

The concept of predestination (i.e. that God has already planned everything that will happen and there is no freewill) directly contradicts the concept of free will. However, reliance on fate to guide you to what 'should' be also eliminates free will, either by meaning that you never make a choice or that the choices you do make don't have any effect on the eventual outcome.

This is especially important in the Christian faith because of the belief that anyone can reach God, even if they are apparently on the path to self-destruction. If nobody had free will, then there would be no point in this part called life; those destined for salvation would just have it and those destined for destruction need never be created.

I personally believe in free will. You choose your path. In any decision you can make your choice, and the result will be your own responsibility. However, God can and will provide for those who ask it of him, and the decisions made will either lead toward the provision of God or away from it.

Just to play devil's advocate, if there is no such thing as free will, how would anyone know? ;)

Originally posted by Cutglass
Not everyone chooses to believe in god, it's a personal preference; god/fate/kharma/destiny whatever tag you want to put on it?
Rightly or wrongly, how people wish to interpret the actions and consequences of their lives is ultimately their choice and like everyone else, all anyone wants at the end of the day is a happy life.
Whether that happy life is attained by having their belief in god or having their belief in fate justified, who knows?
We're all individuals and we all have individual preferences, that is the choice of any single person with free will.

Thank you Cutglass. Very well put. Much appreciated this post.