Im wanting to find out the number for the guy who puts it all together and unfortunately our last one was read and went in the recycling this week.

Thanks

Oh!

I just may have one to hand. Let me wipe the sweat from my brow while I smooth it out, scan it and render it into a viewable format for you.

HERE (http://crosspoolforum.magicsociety.co.uk/images/1/1e/Springclarion2008.pdf) you go!

You are a star - thank you!

Interesting mag. Used to live on Stephen Hill Rd 1947-1962. I don't think we had all the burglaries then or maybe they weren't publicised. The greengrocers then were Brooke Brays and Sandersons. Turners and Wards for groceries. Seniors and Wallers for newspapers. Forgotten the name of the butchers. There was a fish and chip shop early 50's but this was replaced by a sweet shop - Charles I think. Another shop was Davy's I think. All changed last time I was there 2004. Our house overlooked the allotments on Marsh Lane. Sad about the burglaries there. Oh - Darwins fish shop. And a little shop that sold paint and decorating stuff.

mikeG - I think that the butcher was Frank Mabbott.

I remember a Mabbotts from somewhere. That could be it. Cant remember the shop next to Darwins fish shop or the one next to Seniors. Age is a terrible thing. There was a little bread shop on Lydgate Lane, no doubt long gone. Also a place on Watt Lane where you could buy excellent ice cream.

very interesting MikeG. I can also remember all those shops you mentioned. I used to stay most weekends with my grandparents at Crosspool from 1960 - 1966. In fact, my grandmother was the lady who sold the icecream from one of the dairies at their house (corner of Watt Lane and Cairns Road. I used to help her make it sometimes.

My mother and father in law used to run a newsagents on the corner of lydgate lane i think it was in the 70s. Their surname is Chittenden.

My grandparents were Gwen and Bill Fisher.

Fishers dairy. Remember them. Its all coming back now. Friend of mine - Mick Twigg used to live on Manchester Road not far from off licence at the bottom of Vernon Terrace (Jenkinsons?). Will see him and a few other 60 plusses at Chester races May 7th. Hope its a darn sight warmer than it has been of late.

In the 60s, that off licence at the bottom of Vernon Terrace was the only local place open on a Sunday evening to buy anything. My mum used to call there on the way back home after picking me up from grandparents. We were allowed a treat. I always chose 'grown up' chocolate .... a pack of Mintola's. In those days, all the pubs round there were thriving. The Crosspool Tavern, Kings Head, Sportsman, and the Plough at Sandygate, which my granddad Wilson ran. Different affair nowadays!

I have mentioned this earlier Old Trout but before you joined. The pianist in our group - Barry Holmes had his 21st at the Plough on November 18th, 1960 so I've no doubt I saw your grandparents then. It was my first night out on the ale as I was 18 on the 14th so the end of the evening was a little bit blurred. We finished up at Chez Brion in Broomhill, then had to walk back to Crosspool in the rain. All I had was 3 pints of lager and lime but I hardly noticed the rain.

My Gran Wilson died in 1959, but granddad was definitely there in 1960, sadly no longer around to ask him more. Will ask my dad for memories of the Plough, and my mum for memories of Crosspool.

'Little bit blurred' on 3 pints of lager and lime, eh? Before the days of watering down methinks. But there again, in those days, I suppose it was rare for teenagers to drink in pubs before they were 18 hence not used to alcohol like the 14 year olds are now.

Sorry to deviate from the OP, but this is for Mike G, Just in case you are interested, here are my mum’s childhood memories of the shops at Crosspool. From Selborne Rd to Mancheser Rd (right hand side of Sandygate Rd)

A Bank; Sanderson’s (greengrocers), Preston’s (chemist); Turner’s (grocer); Austin’s (butcher); Gosney’s (paint, wallpaper), Cook’s or Elliott’s chip shop in the corner. Few houses round the corner, then Mabbott’s (butcher); Gosney’s (hairdresser); fish shop (perhaps that was Darwin's as you mentioned?)

Ranson’s had a garage on Manchester Rd. Then back along Sandygate Road from Manchester Rd was the old post office, Ranson’s ran it and mum said you could buy a whole ham which was baked in dough; few houses; Brook Bray’s (greengrocer); Davy’s (grocer); Post Office.

Across the other side of Benty Lane: Co-op; houses; Senior’s (newsagents); a hardware shop (?); another butcher (?).

Further up Sandygate Rd on the opp side was a wool shop owned by ‘June Allen’s mum’; Gales’s (bakers); and down a passage was a boot repairers.

Hope this is of interest to you, but bear in mind my mum is 76! Obviously some of the names changed to the ones you remember.

Gale's the bakers had another shop on Lydgate Lane on the bend halfway between the toilets and the school. They also had a pale green 3 wheeler delivery van ( akin to Del Trotter ).
Ice Cream was plentiful in Crosspool, as well as Watt Lane you could also buy it at Marsden's Dairy who had a small shop on Sandygate Road just past the Plough. Ice cream was also made and sold from Slinn's Farm on Cross Lane who also had a shop on Crookes near the two Grindstone pubs.
I remember buying a 1d. ( old penny) loaf - a miniature hovis - from Turner's the bakers on Wednesday lunch times whilst waiting for the 55 bus prior to going swimming at Glossop Road from Lydgate School.

Gales on Lydgate Lane was probably the actual bakery then. Amazing how there seemed to be 2 of all types of shops, ie butchers, bakers, etc. And they all thrived. There are several restaurants there now.

Your Mum's memory is fine Old Trout. The Bank was the National Provincial. Austins - yes! and Mabbotts. I think the old Post Office near Jeff Ransome's was coverted into another grocers to rival Turners, - Wards - right on the corner. Hardware shop next to Seniors seems about right. Crossing Ringstead Crescent from Seniors, there may well have been another butchers but there was a hairdressers (Dianes??) there owned by a 'girl' who was in my class at Lydgate. I called in there in 1990 but the lady in question was out.
The Rising Sun in Nethergreen was my nearest boozer when we moved to Fulwood in 1962. I probably saw your parents. I remember one chap, behind the bar, an everpresent, maybe your Dad - about 5ft.10, smartly dressed with hair probably brylcreemed, brushed back very flat and parted. I think the pub was a Youngers house, Hence I may have had Newky Brown there. Next to Ransome's garage was St. Columba's Church. I was a server there 1960-1962. Also around that time The Raiders with me on bad rhythm guitar would play at the Saturday night dance. Alternate Saturdays was Joe Cocker known then as Vance Arnold and the Avengers.

We lived at the Rising Sun from 1959 to 1975 so it was definitely my dad you remember - he was ALWAYS behind the bar! The male bar staff in the 60s wore white starched jackets. Not dad, but he always wore a tie. I often worked behind the bar in the 70s but I was only 6 in 1962 so wouldn't have served your beer! Not really sure what brewery had it. Think it was a free house when dad first took over.... then John Smith's, Courage at some point? You will remember that the pub was made up of 4 separate rooms back then; tap room, smoke room, lounge and cocktail bar. Completely different types of people in all of them. When we left there, he became the tenant at the Masons Arms at Crookes (also John Smith's) until his early retirement in 1985.

My friend and I used to go to St Columba's youth club around 1970-72, every Friday night without fail. Caught the No 2 bus back down to Hangingwater. Didn't realise I strutted my stuff at the same venue as Joe Cocker used to strum.

Sundays was Dobcroft youth club, and Tuesdays was Bannercross. Wish I knew then what I know now!

Sorry Mike, just re-read your post and realise it was you serving at the church in 1962, not at the bar!! Ha ha

Quite strange it was. Saturday night it was all pints of Mansfield in the Sportsman, strumming on stage, puffing Park Drives and then on to the dance floor for the last half hour to 'pick a bird up' to walk home. They were memorable times but although we drank, we never got violent and I never saw any kind of trouble at St.Columbas. Then 12 hours later on the Sunday morning, I'd be standing near vicar/altar etc in mi cassock counting the congregation to calculate the amount of communion bread needed. Rumours that I used to swig the communion wine behind mi pew to get mi heart started are absolutely without foundation. The Sportsman then, was run by Ernie Blenkinsop (ex Owls player).

mikeG - I think that the butcher was Frank Mabbott.

the butcher was frank mabbott there was also another butchers shop run by his brother richard mabbott on the corner of crookmoor road and barber road. This was my grandad!

the butcher was frank mabbott there was also another butchers shop run by his brother richard mabbott on the corner of crookmoor road and barber road. This was my grandad!

Yeah.. Frank Mabbott! Did you live in the area then, or now?