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On a recent thread about Loxley Village a couple of Forum users have stated that Stannington isn't a village. The thread can be found here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32369) , now I know there are quite a few users on this thread from Stannington, so is it a village.
Magneteer 20-03-2005, 17:16 Oh no we didn't!! We stated that Loxley wasn't a village.....which it isn't.
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"The only villages you'll find around here are Bradfield, Dungworth and Storrs"
Magneteer 20-03-2005, 17:55 Yes, that's right because Stannington was originally a village in the true sense, although since the 1950's-60's it has been joined up with the rest of Sheffield by housing/roads etc. Loxley however was never a village, in fact most of the houses there are post war and the majority built in the 60's onwards, just a continuation of the urban sprawl of Sheffield.
alchresearch 20-03-2005, 18:00 Perhaps it's trying to rebrand itself as a village in order to raise the profile a little bit?
sparklesista 20-03-2005, 18:03 Ask duffman - he lives in Stannington :)
Magneteer
Loxley however was never a village, in fact most of the houses there are post war and the majority built in the 60's onwards, just a continuation of the urban sprawl of Sheffield.
Try looking at this (http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/book/w-page3.html) which states "About a mile below Damflask is Loxley, from which the river takes its name for the rest of its brief course until it falls into the Don.". Just to remind you the Sheffield Flood was in 1864
Magneteer 20-03-2005, 18:36 Your website mentions the village of Lower Bradfield and then refers to Loxley ( not the village of Loxley)
Originally posted by sanman
On a recent thread about Loxley Village a couple of Forum users have stated that Stannington isn't a village. The thread can be found here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32369) , now I know there are quite a few users on this thread from Stannington, so is it a village.
Hi Sanman,I hope you aren't trying to pin this one on me , I specifically included Stannington in my list of villages (Hi Magneteer, fancy starting without me:thumbsup: ) I've had a look at three local history books, all by David Hey, who is generally considered as the expert on this area. In "The making of South Yorkshire" he mentions Dungworth twice, Stannington three times, and Bradfield twelve times. Loxley isn't mentioned at all. In "Historic Hallamshire" he refers to Darnall 9 times, Attercliffe 10 times, Stannington 17 times, Storrs 3 times, and Worrall 6 times. He refers to Loxley 7 times, but as a valley or chase, just as he refers to Rivelin valley/chase 12 times, but no mention of Loxley as a village. In "Mediaeval South Yorkshire" he refers to Bradfield 13 times, Dungworth 3 times, Stannington 4 times, Worrall twice, but again, no mention of Loxley village. Now, either there's a conspiracy going on to write the ancient village of Loxley out of the history books, or there never was a village of Loxley, only a valley.:thumbsup:
The area above the Sportsman pub on Oldfield Road is known locally as Stannington Village.
Rich - a Stannington resident of 7 and a bit years.
Originally posted by Rich
The area above the Sportsman pub on Oldfield Road is known locally as Stannington Village.
Rich - a Stannington resident of 7 and a bit years.
i agree with Rich above the sportmans is the village part, but people below the sportsman count theyselves as stannington people and so it could be called a suburbean area.
Steelcitybab - a Stannington resident all my life (19 yrs) above the sportsman
Magneteer 26-03-2005, 17:23 Hi Algy/Sanman,
I'm still doing some research on this one but so far can't find any reference to Loxley Village ( except one in Warwickshire that claims Robin Hood as theirs, the cheek of it). Theres no question of Stannington not being a village, it is very typical of what a village is/was. I'll let you know if I do manage to unearth some new evidence.
Hi Sanman:thumbsup: In a spirit of fairness, I have to say that I have now seen a reference to Loxley Village in a book. There is a fairly recent book of photos of old Stannington, one of which is taken at Little Matlock Cricket Ground, and the caption says '... Loxley Village can be seen in the background". I would however like to add in my defence that this in no way proves that Loxley is a village, only that at least one other person thinks it is! Unless of course you had a hand in writing the book? :suspect:
And if any of you kind Stannington folk see a scatty blonde driving a black new shaped Fiat Punto please let me know, she owes me a new wing mirror after smashing mine and failing to stop :rant:
Been a resident of Stannington for 20 years (since age 3)i have alsways know it as a villiage, and all my family are from there, my uncle is manager at one of the pubs, and know loads of villiagers that will argue about where the boundaries are for the villiage and if its upper or lower stannington! However, in most if not all the books of stannington and surrounding areas especialy ones wrote about the flood, they state stannington is a villiage!
Loxley i always thought was just a valley, and Bradfield is more a villiage as is Dungworth.
(Deej - there was a Fiat Punto Black parked outside the peacock last night and thats brand new
love me xx)
Originally posted by sparklesista
Ask duffman - he lives in Stannington :)
*cough* What about me? *cough* Where do I live? The moon? :loopy:
As for whether Stannington is a Village or not, well as far as I know, anything that's further up than the Sportsman pub on Oldfield Road, is classed as being in the Village, so I suppose from that logic you could argue that we live in the Village, but we don't, we live just outside the Village, just off the Acorn estate.
Stannington was certainly a separate village at one time, now it's really just a suburb of Sheffield - although I know quite a few people who'll refer to their part of Stannington as "the village".
I've also heard the bottom end of Fulwood referred to as Fulwood village to differentiate from the "newer" estates up the hill.
Similarly some people in Dore refer to it as Dore village (even though really a suburb like Stannington now). What gets me is that I've seen some people refer to it as Dore near Sheffield which strikes me as snobby.
muddycoffee 07-05-2005, 08:58 I was brought up on a pleasent cul-de-sac in hillsborough. And some of the neighbours called it the village, because it was friendly, quiet and middle class.
Strictly speaking it wasn't a village, nor is Dore, Totley, Stannington or Oughtibridge any longer because thousands of people now live in these districts. They are now just dissolved in the sprawl of the city.
They were villages before WWII before they built all those houses.
The definition of Village is a small collection of houses in the country which is bigger than a hamlet. Apparently coming from Ville an old french word for farm.
The definition of Hamlet is a small collection of houses without a church.
Stannington with it's tower blocks and social housing is far from a village.
I get the feeling this thread is going nowhere, as it was based on a question that wasn't true to begin with. There's never really been any suggestion that Stannington isn't a village, it grew out of a discussion about whether Loxley was ever a village, which was a completely different thread.
Originally posted by algy
I get the feeling this thread is going nowhere, as it was based on a question that wasn't true to begin with. There's never really been any suggestion that Stannington isn't a village, it grew out of a discussion about whether Loxley was ever a village, which was a completely different thread.
Since when has the fact that a thread is going nowhere been a factor as to whether or not it trundles along?
The people I know who live in Stannington, judge people by how far up the hill they live, some even break it down into upper and lower Stannington, (the villagy bit at the top been the "best" bit).
The people who refer to Dore near Sheffield, are probably the people that remember the days when they were separate. I think Dore was still in Derbyshire until the 70's, when Sheffield swallowed it up, due to boundary changes.
muddycoffee 07-05-2005, 09:40 Originally posted by SHarper
The people who refer to Dore near Sheffield, are probably the people that remember the days when they were separate. I think
Or the people who have snobbish ideas of a village idyll. I have knowd quite a few 2 bob millionaires and their offspring who constantly refer to "Dore Village". I once came back with the reply that I live in the pretty hamlet of norton woodseats!, much to the amusement of all present.
Also (Woodseats) in Derbyshire a while ago, but now built up and part of sheffield for a century. The district of norton woodseats was formerly 2 small hamlets, Upper woodseats, which was between the KFC and SPAR and Nether woodseats, which where the Dale is now, adjacent to woodseats WMC, where all the japanese knotweed grows. These two small areas were seperated by farmland and woods before the new chesterfield road was driven through to join them all up.
Please don't include me as one of the people "who have snobbish ideas of a village idyll". I only live here because when I was moving back to Sheffield after 6 years in Doncaster the only property that fulfilled all the criteria on the list that I made was this one, to this day I don't like telling people where I live 'cos I am immediately judged to be something I'm not.
I was at a party in Stocksbridge over christmas and when my friends girlfriend found out that we lived here her words were: "I wish I'd known that earlier I wouldn't have sworn as much" figure that out.
Norton Woodseats is the correct term for the area you live in Muddy.( Did you work at the Wap? I did in '83/'84)
ellielambert 07-05-2005, 11:42 Hi,
Just a quick question for anyone who lives in Stannington. Angela Smith won the Hillsborough parliamentary seat. I was just wondering what issues the people of Stannington consider important in relation to national politics and why the Labour was the most popular choice of party. I'm just writing an article about Labour's win in Stannington and want to know what the voters of the area consider to be key issues - education, crime, healthcare, the Iraq war etc.
Many thanks,
Ellie Lambert
Going back to SHarper & muddycoffees posts, Dore was been part of Sheffield since 1934.
Originally posted by ellielambert
Hi,
Just a quick question for anyone who lives in Stannington. Angela Smith won the Hillsborough parliamentary seat. I was just wondering what issues the people of Stannington consider important in relation to national politics and why the Labour was the most popular choice of party. I'm just writing an article about Labour's win in Stannington and want to know what the voters of the area consider to be key issues - education, crime, healthcare, the Iraq war etc.
Many thanks,
Ellie Lambert
IMO the Iraq war should never have happened, cos they looked for WMDs but never found anything, yet they still went to war.. :loopy:
I also strongly disagree with a lot of Blair's other policies, such as the student top up fees, which they said when they were elected that they WOULDN'T introduce, lying bar stewards!
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