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I've put unsure myself.
I'm borderline because it does keep some rough element off the street and train them to respectful but the flipside is that it can be seen to be violent.
I've put yes but if they could make it safer there is a slim chance I would change my mind. Perhaps if the head was excluded as a target then we might not see so many of our boxers with brain damage. This is unlikely to happen due to the nature of the fans who want to see knockout blows to the head.
We've made sword fighting safe but at the expense of its popularity as a spectator sport.
DaBouncer 27-09-2003, 15:18 You missed an option in the poll.
NO just wasn't strong enough IMHO. It should have been HELL NO!
Boxing is one of the oldest and best sports to watch. Long live the sport of boxing!
I've put no but I competed for many years so I'm surely going to be biased. For me it's the highest form of competition 1v1. At the end of the day it's peoples own choice to participate, they are all trained athletes. Ultimate fighting such as UFC/Pride used to be the most brutal thing on television but now even they calm it down for TV purposes.
BladesCrew 03-10-2003, 07:42 NO way jose, it is more commen to get hurt in horse racing than in boxing, all make a choice and all work dammed hard to keep safety a premium.
This is a truly wonderful sport which gives all classes a chance to progress and make dreams come true, it has long been the sport that gives young lads a chance to make soething of themselves in world that might toherwise shun them...
Take a look in our gym, at the kidz faces during training, or go through the training for a pro bout with any pro fighter of your choice, they committ their whole lives to their sport.
The aim is NOT to be hit, and no fighter wants to really hurt another...Regardless of what you may think.
So no...lol
Isn't the aim of a boxer to win his bout? So, to win, he has to hurt his opponent more than his opponent hurts him. Sorry, but I cannot enjoy seeing people taking part in something, I cannot call it a sport, but that is my opinion, in which the whole object is to hurt your opponent. Why not play darts? Chess? Cricket? Soccer? etc, etc? You can still gain respect, and money, in other ways.
DaBouncer 03-10-2003, 08:15 Because Boxing is one of the oldest sports in the world. AND it appeals to the primative side in us. The adrenaline, the excitment, it's like taking a step out of reality and entering a new world.
I'd love to go to one of the UFC matches too. That would be ace!
Damn, I let DaB creep ever closer to 2000 posts!!
No boxing shouldn't be banned.
It channels aggression into a safe place. Many of the kids who take up boxing would be out on the street kicking the hell out of some innocents if they didn't have that outlet.
It also encourages respect for the individuals own body as super fitness is required. Drugs and alcohol don't mix with boxing.
BladesCrew 03-10-2003, 08:50 Boxing or anything is in the DNA you can usually from about the age of eight look at children and they are either going to be a tinker tailor soldier or sailor.
There were a 110,000 amateur boxers in the country in 1971, I believe the figures have dropped to around 8 - 10.000, it is interesting in that time span how street crime has increased.
Boxing is THE safest contact sport there is, infact I would go as far as to say that boxing is the most skilled of any sport, alot of national coaches of other sports say it is a sport that all others adhere to.
The people who are usually anti boxing dont seem to mind people going to war....
I remember the first fight that I can remember saved alot of lives, David and Goliath !!! It was skill that won that one.
As for WANTING to hurt someone, it's always the people who havnt boxed that come out with statements like that. The commoradere in a boxing gym is second to none, and every boxer is out to help his team mate, I would suggest to you to go and spend some time at an ex boxers meeting and see the admiration and respect ex boxers ahve for eachother. The people who boxed eachother in the past care deeply about one another because the people who foguht eachother learnt more about themselves by doing that and learnt more about people than anyone can ever know, because they were tested to their limits and beyond.
Brain Damage....
It happens, but there is virtually no chance of it today. Talking to the countries leading nuero surgeon I found it interesting that he was more concerned about footballers coming to the fore right now with brain damage oir signs of potential damage.
The British Boxing Board of Control has spent years and many hundreds of thousands of pounds on boxers safety, this is now THE HIGHEST regulated sports and with the medicals and stringent tests that ALL fighters go through it is without dought now a days one of THE safest
I love my fighters, they are my family, not because of their job but because of who they are....I would not be invloved in a sport where safety was not the main issue, there will ALWAYS be boxers, it is up to me and people like me and our truly wonderful governing body to continue moving the boundries and protecting our lads and lassies at all times.
BC
Ooops. I admit that my views are probably because I do not like to hurt anyone, and certainly do not like being hurt. I was a better runner than a fighter when in my far away youth.
Then again, it is not a sport that I like to see. But neither are basketball, and a few others. I would rather read a book.
BladesCrew 03-10-2003, 09:04 LOL Then read a book about boxing and maybe you'll learn what it is all about huh ???
BC x
Originally posted by BladesCrew
LOL Then read a book about boxing and maybe you'll learn what it is all about huh ???
If everybody on this forum had to read a book about all the subjects raised in order to have an 'informed' opinion there'd be nobody here.
I accept all your arguments about it being the purest of sports and that it teaches discipline, etc. But that does not excuse the fact that a lot of people watch it to see pain inflicted by one man on another.
No - why single out boxing to be banned when there are a number of other sports just as dangerous, rugby, climbing, wrestling the list goes on.
BladesCrew 03-10-2003, 10:04 Exactly Doug, Max let me tell you mate that football fans are the worst for violence, there is rarely if ever any trouble at a boxing show.
As for people watching it for violent reasons, hon let me tell you they are NOT true boxing fans..
The real fans are there to see skill, not people getting seriously hurt. No one in their right mind would in their hearts want to see someone getting badly hurt and it rips this game and its members apart when it happens, which as I say it thank god VERY rare.
BC
Forgive me, I thought this thread was about whether or not boxing should be banned. If anybody feels strongly about other sports then they should start their own thread.
BladesCrew 03-10-2003, 10:10 Nothing to forgive, lol
It's a thread I have been invloved in many times hon in many diff forums, someone always says it somewhere....And other sports are always bought into it for some reason...lol
Hope I ahve read this PM right, or are you having a lil go at me lol Cant quite make me mind up lol
BladesCrew 03-10-2003, 10:12 Derrrrrrrr BC is being thick, that was to Dug not me, never mind I answered for him...lol
BC
Originally posted by max
Forgive me, I thought this thread was about whether or not boxing should be banned. If anybody feels strongly about other sports then they should start their own thread.
Yes I agree. I was merely justifying my answer the same way that others have justified their answers.
I don't particularly like boxing, but those who do participate give their consent to do so.
I've put yes but if they could make it safer there is a slim chance I would change my mind.I also voted YES and this is why....
It promotes violence and we have enough hatred in this world today..
AJ sheffield 05-07-2008, 15:41 Isn't the aim of a boxer to win his bout? So, to win, he has to hurt his opponent more than his opponent hurts him. Sorry, but I cannot enjoy seeing people taking part in something, I cannot call it a sport, but that is my opinion, in which the whole object is to hurt your opponent. Why not play darts? Chess? Cricket? Soccer? etc, etc? You can still gain respect, and money, in other ways.
Ironic though how out of the sporting arena its the behavior of footballers that is the most disgraceful, I wonder why that is.
arachnophobe 05-07-2008, 17:19 I also voted YES and this is why....
It promotes violence and we have enough hatred in this world today..
Boxing doesn't promote violence or hatred. It promotes a healthy lifestyle, respect for others, discipline, skill, hard work and sportsmanship. Some things which sadly seem to be missing for a lot of people today, particularly young people. I've lost count of the number of kids I've seen who are in trouble, bored, overweight, depressed, bullies or being bullied, having problems at home etc, turn things around because of involvement in sports (including boxing). It gives them a purpose and focus that they were previously lacking.
Boxing at it's best is a sport, an art and a science.
Boxing doesn't promote violence
Which type of boxing have you been watching, where the objective is not to inflict violence on the opponent in order to beat him?
arachnophobe 05-07-2008, 17:26 Which type of boxing have you been watching, where the objective is not to inflict violence on the opponent in order to beat him?
I meant it doesn't promote violence in everyday life!
people who talk Boxing down are generally soft people . :hihi:
Craig.
BasilRathbon 07-07-2008, 09:12 And another old thread rises from the dead!
As I've said on previous boxing threads, we live in an increasingly violent society where gullible young people often look up to sportsmen as role models. There's no place in a civilised society for a sport where the object is to violently assault your opponent until he's so badly injured he's unable to continue.
There's an interesting article here that supports my argument rather well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-561165/The-new-barbarians-How-rich-beautiful-famous-backing-boxing.html
Amngst other things, it reveals that "The American Medical Association says 75 per cent of all boxers who have more than 20 professional fights are left with permanent brain damage.
Others put that figure as high as 80 per cent of all boxers.
The British Medical Association - whose members have seen the consequences of this sport - have long maintained that it should be banned."
But hey, let's not spoil the fun by mentioning such unpalatable facts, eh? :rolleyes:
lets also not forget that boxing has and did save alot of young people from a life of crime. Some who became role models, and some not , but they were not committing crimes and that is alot better IMO.
Forgive me, I thought this thread was about whether or not boxing should be banned. If anybody feels strongly about other sports then they should start their own thread.
Bit of a daft post for you max, all posts get other subjects dragged into them on and off, leave things alone, and stop interfering when it's unnecessary, save it for another time :thumbsup:
And No, boxing should not be banned.
yorkshire33 17-07-2008, 08:44 No boxing shouldnt be banned if someone wants to make a good life out of boxing good luck to them.
Fivetide 17-07-2008, 11:04 I go no. Boxing is regulated and controlled to minimise the risk to the fighters and at the same time both parties in the ring are there through choice. It's a fantastic competitive sport, mostly for the fact that it is at heart so very simple in a competitive sense.
On a side note (eensy bit off topic)... my pa is not a big sports fan. He hates football (although I do force him to endure it when I'm home), golf, tennis, rugby, cricket... any of the major sports that we get on T.V. really. He's also a very temperate and peaceful person, a pacifist at heart. Yet he loves his boxing. He bloody well knows more about it than me. I get a bit confused if I try and work it out. (Not complaining though... when there's a fight on the box I'm guaranteed to be let off the cooking for a night coz we get pizza and chips in!)
Fivetide 17-07-2008, 11:08 Isn't the aim of a boxer to win his bout? So, to win, he has to hurt his opponent more than his opponent hurts him. Sorry, but I cannot enjoy seeing people taking part in something, I cannot call it a sport, but that is my opinion, in which the whole object is to hurt your opponent. Why not play darts? Chess? Cricket? Soccer? etc, etc? You can still gain respect, and money, in other ways.
The chess reminded me... Curious idea (http://site.wcbo.org/content/index_en.html).
And if we're talking about whether boxing should be banned, what's wrong with comparing it to other sports that are comparably violent/dangerous and over which there is no similar debate? Hmmmm?
Bladesman 17-07-2008, 12:50 I see more worse injurys in Rugby than in Boxing these days.
Most the boxing I have watched lately have been one on points rather than the oppenent being knocked out.
Boxing shouldnt be banned for the reasons most have mentioned already.
I see more worse injurys in Rugby than in Boxing these days.
Most the boxing I have watched lately have been one on points rather than the oppenent being knocked out.
Boxing shouldnt be banned for the reasons most have mentioned already.
Good point . Boxers today are more skilled and I don't think we will see the heavy punching "I wana knock your brain out" likes of Mike Tyson for a while.
Yes, the ultimate aim of boxing is to beat your opponant, but if we look at some great champions, take Mayweather-Calzage to Lennox Lewis-Sugar Ray R and Sugar Ray L and likes of Mohammad Ali, all these guys managed to out box or out smart their opponants. Yeah some of these guys could(and did) KO you but it was not brutal. There was an art to the way these guys fought. They also happen to be nice guys out the ring- whilst the brutal punching heavy hitting, were tend to be more hostile and less approachable. Take for e.g. Foreman (before he became reborn), Sonny Liston, Nigel Benn, mike Tyson.
I love to see a skilled fighter rather than a puncher.
I voted no. Boxing is a great sport and enjoyed it for the few years i trained.
It does not advocate voilence.
So does football encourage bad language, swearing, and disrespect?
Rugby. If you plan on banning boxing, why not ban rugby. Fights kick off left right and centre...its a physical game, but played by gentlemen.
Ice Hockey- Rules which allow 'body checking' and referees told to allow fights to continue until the break up.....
The list goes on
dawnpriest 31-07-2008, 18:20 hi im new on here
dawnpriest 31-07-2008, 18:21 i love boxing
stuartsmurf 17-08-2008, 19:59 no way ozay boxing is an art honest.ive boxed and the main point is Not to get hit good leg work and stamina rule. keeps kids off the streets and learns them to posativly chanal energy.that cant be a bad thing can it checkout a trainer called tommy thompson boxing will change your life for the better.
I also voted YES and this is why....
It promotes violence and we have enough hatred in this world today..
5 years old and you resurrect the thread, that has to be one of the best bits of necromancy we've seen for a while.
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