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halevan
28-02-2003, 19:19
As a driver in this city, I am sick to death of having to drive over these stupid hump's in the road, what are they trying to do to us? smash our suspension's?

What good are they? some driver's still drive as fast even now the hump's have been put there, the hump's are dangerous they will "cause" accident's. Who will pay for the damage to our car's? because bumping over them even slowly has got to cause crack's in the superstructure.

I have had to change our route a lot of times over the last few month's, having to make sometimes a long detour, why should I have to do this because some misguided transport official has decided to put hump's down to stop these young Idiot's from going too fast.

Hitting them can cause a driver to lose control of the steering, who would get the blame if this happened? What would the police say to the driver, that it was his fault? And what about the person who was responsible for putting them down?

Who decides these thing's? why dont they ask the driver's who use the road's of Sheffield before acting on their own inititiative! Let us all protest!!! and get these monstrosities removed once and for all. :evil: :evil: :evil: Please vote Yes or No. Hal, Evans.

Andy
28-02-2003, 19:31
I agree Halevan - somthing must be done!

A Google search found these interesting snippits:

London Ambulance Service Chairman Blames Speed Bumps for Unnecessary Deaths. Sigurd Reinton, Chairman of LAS was reported as saying to the Evening Standard that measures such as road humps are actually costing more lives than they save, due to their impact on slowing ambulance services. Up to 800 victims of cardiac arrest die in London for every minute of delay, and there are likely to be more additional deaths caused from delays than are saved by traffic calming.

Every speed hump delays ambulances by up to 10 seconds

Research carried out in Austria on a mile long stretch of road with six humps and a 40kph speed limit showed that cars negotiating the humps emmitted 10 times more nitrogen oxide, 3 times more poisonous carbon monoxide, and 25% more carbon dioxide, than vehicles maintaining a constant speed. Fuel consumption rose from 7.9 litres to nearly 10 litres per 100 km. The report concluded: "A regular traffic flow would therefore always be more environmentally friendly".

Michael_W
28-02-2003, 19:47
Read this article on the SheffieldToday website http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=275999.
I'm surprised it's took so long for people to complain, the roads in Sheffield are a disgrace and yet the council can afford to mutilate the streets with these 'humps' - when they are in more need of repair !

Lickszz
28-02-2003, 21:38
Funny enough I have seen a sign on Elm Lane near Sheffield Lane Top that states there is going to be changed to highway, I been trying to think what this could be, perhaps more speed bumps? a crossing or perhaps something for the firestation?

Lickszz
28-02-2003, 21:40
There is also a road near the Rizt Bingo hall that used to have bumps on and the got rid of them, not been on the road for a while, just trying to think if they have wasted money putting the humps back or not...

*Twinkle*
01-03-2003, 08:17
Lol Halevan you beat me to it! I was just going to start a post complaining about the humps on Stradbroke road!!! They're a nightmare, they really are!!! Whenever we go over the humps, my Dad complains bitterly because of the scrape of his exhaust pipe on the silly square hump! He was telling me about his mate who went over a hump (rather slowly I might add) and it ripped his exhaust pipe off. He complained bitterly to the council, but it fell on deaf ears, as can be expected.

I know there are a number of types of speed bumps to slow drivers down, but the square things in the middle of the road are as good as! They're bad for the car and the "boy racers" go over 'em even faster because it gives them a buzz & its not as if they care about their vehicle either! If we have to have them, why can't we have the long ones that stretch over both lanes, and cause no threat to the vehicles that pass over them?

El Duderino
01-03-2003, 09:24
I think if they slow traffic down, they're a good thing. I'm sure most vehicles can negotiate them safely, at the right speed.

*Twinkle*
01-03-2003, 09:27
Yes most drivers can do, but it still doesn't take away the damage thats done to our cars by going over these blasted things!

alchresearch
01-03-2003, 09:38
I hate to say it, but cameras are the only option for reducing speed without damaging cars. I don't agree with cameras on open roads where they have reduced the speed from, say, 60mph to 40.

But, I would much prefer a camera than humps damaging my car, or ridiculous chicanes narrowing the road and forcing you to give way.

Surely something like this is not legal because it is restricting an otherwise perfect road for no good reason. Stradbroke Road is a typical example.

The newer style of cameras, such as those on the Stocksbridge Bypass, are excellent speed deterrents. They are supposed to catch you before you get there, although I don't see how as there is no flash and no markings on the road to indicate your speed.

xyZed
01-03-2003, 09:40
Does anyone know how to try to claim compensation for the damage done by these stupid things? I now have suspension problems again. It happens about every 18 months. I cannot avoid the speed bumps because I work all over Sheffield and they are everywhere.

I don't believe they are remotely effective as people's attention is taken over by first of all cursing and ranting about them, then tying to get over them or get the wheels just right so they don't bump you as much. There is evidence also that people speed up in between them and when they are through them out of frustration.

alchresearch
01-03-2003, 09:57
I did on a road that ran beside the airport. The hump ripped off my fuel line, petrol was leaking all over the road. I went to the police building for some assistance but they refused to help, but kindly warned the police helicopter which promptly flew off.

I had to walk all the way to the airport, who kindly rang the fire brigade which sealed the ruptured line and washed the petrol away.

After I submitted a claim to the council, they just ignored it, but smoothed off the ramps so they weren't as steep and then put a 'private road' notice at the start of the road.

xyZed
01-03-2003, 10:00
Originally posted by "alchresearch"



After I submitted a claim to the council, they just ignored it, but smoothed off the ramps so they weren't as steep and then put a 'private road' notice at the start of the road.

You should have pursued it, as them doing that was proof that they accepted responsibility.

Lickszz
01-03-2003, 10:07
Originally posted by "caprice"

Lol Halevan you beat me to it! I was just going to start a post complaining about the humps on Stradbroke road!!! They're a nightmare, they really are!!! Whenever we go over the humps, my Dad complains bitterly because of the scrape of his exhaust pipe on the silly square hump! He was telling me about his mate who went over a hump (rather slowly I might add) and it ripped his exhaust pipe off. He complained bitterly to the council, but it fell on deaf ears, as can be expected.

I know there are a number of types of speed bumps to slow drivers down, but the square things in the middle of the road are as good as! They're bad for the car and the "boy racers" go over 'em even faster because it gives them a buzz & its not as if they care about their vehicle either! If we have to have them, why can't we have the long ones that stretch over both lanes, and cause no threat to the vehicles that pass over them?

I am forced to agree and what's worse is that this road is such a long road and the humps seem to go on forever.

Lickszz
01-03-2003, 10:09
Originally posted by "alchresearch"

I hate to say it, but cameras are the only option for reducing speed without damaging cars. I don't agree with cameras on open roads where they have reduced the speed from, say, 60mph to 40.

But, I would much prefer a camera than humps damaging my car, or ridiculous chicanes narrowing the road and forcing you to give way.

Surely something like this is not legal because it is restricting an otherwise perfect road for no good reason. Stradbroke Road is a typical example.

The newer style of cameras, such as those on the Stocksbridge Bypass, are excellent speed deterrents. They are supposed to catch you before you get there, although I don't see how as there is no flash and no markings on the road to indicate your speed.

Well these on the Stocksbridge bypass are the new digital style cameras, they don't need road markings. They track you all the way and take your speed as an average, this stops you from speeding in between.

Lickszz
01-03-2003, 10:12
Originally posted by "alchresearch"

I did on a road that ran beside the airport. The hump ripped off my fuel line, petrol was leaking all over the road. I went to the police building for some assistance but they refused to help, but kindly warned the police helicopter which promptly flew off.

I had to walk all the way to the airport, who kindly rang the fire brigade which sealed the ruptured line and washed the petrol away.

After I submitted a claim to the council, they just ignored it, but smoothed off the ramps so they weren't as steep and then put a 'private road' notice at the start of the road.

yes, you could have gone to a small claims court.

halevan
01-03-2003, 12:55
I usually do Caprice. cheer's :lol: :lol: :lol:

John
01-03-2003, 13:57
These hump appear in the street because the people who live in the street requested them by saying yes to a survey. They don't just appear there because the traffic management people are bored.

xyZed
01-03-2003, 14:06
Fair comment. But these people don't own these streets, they are public roads. Thousands of other people have to use them and are having their vehicles damaged. Speed bumps should allow traffic to flow freely and without hindrance as long as they are within the speed limit. They should only cause problems if people try to go over them too fast. Most speed bumps cause problems unless you are doing 15 to 20 mph. This may be fair enough on small stretches of roads near school crossings, but on large roads like Carterknowle road it's causing great inconvenience and frustration.

Also, all speed bumps should be of a standard, accepted height. There are hundreds of these things with varying heights. You can see great marks in the road where cars have gone over them and gouged out the tarmac with their tow bar attachments.

John
01-03-2003, 19:01
Fair comment.

I don't know where all these humps are in Sheffield, but I believe some are there to deter Rat Racers from using them as short cuts by avoiding congested roads and because it anoy them they sure do avoid them by going round.

Should Sheffield introduce a congestion charge like London?

Chris
01-03-2003, 20:34
No! This is no different to other initiatives to tax car users. Theoretically the money goes into public transport, but if public transport actually improved then those imposing the charges would loose their source of revenue. At the very least public transport has to be developed into an attractive alternative first, and preferably supplemented by developments in the city centre that take into account the fact that not using the car is impractical. Just imposing charges will merely be one more deterrent to people coming into the city centre, and unlike Meadowhall this one will be a deterrent on office workers (and their employers), not just shoppers.

(nb., for the record, I live close enough to the city centre to walk into the centre easily, so charges wouldn't affect me directly. I still feel they're the wrong 'solution' to congestion, though)

John
02-03-2003, 18:59
Theoretically the money goes into public transport, but if public transport actually improved then those imposing the charges would loose their source of revenue.

Not quite true. The more people that goes on public transport, the more income they generate by themselves. It is a win-win situation for public transport.

Chris
02-03-2003, 21:47
Originally posted by "John"

Theoretically the money goes into public transport, but if public transport actually improved then those imposing the charges would loose their source of revenue.

Not quite true. The more people that goes on public transport, the more income they generate by themselves. It is a win-win situation for public transport.

For public transport to be a genuine alternative to the car it should be cheaper, and the only way to acheive that is through subsidising it. This is irrespective of how many people use these busses. Also, the busses have to go on more obscure routes - not necessarily just the most popular. The subsidies required to achieve a good service would in part come out of revenue from congestion charging - if the charging is successful then the buses will lose this revenue, the prices will be forced higher and people will return to using their cars.

Don't get me wrong - I'm all for developing alternatives to the present situation of excessive car use. I just feel congestion charging, if implemented at all, should be considered as the last piece in the jigsaw, not the first.

Janice
05-01-2005, 22:18
the worst speed bumps i know in sheffield have got to be the ones on earl marshall road in white ways that allways rippes of my damn exhaust no matter what speed you do any one know where i mean?

PENGUIN
05-01-2005, 22:26
Originally posted by Lickszz
There is also a road near the Rizt Bingo hall that used to have bumps on and the got rid of them, not been on the road for a while, just trying to think if they have wasted money putting the humps back or not...
They are all the way along the road from the Ritz roundabout past forty foot to Herries Road. There is also some on the lower part of Southey green road. Non on wordsworth or upper Southey Green road.

Abdul
05-01-2005, 22:37
Originally posted by Janice
the worst speed bumps i know in sheffield have got to be the ones on earl marshall road in white ways that allways rippes of my damn exhaust no matter what speed you do any one know where i mean?

Yes Janice - I know the ones.

All I can honestly say if your car is being damaged is...I'll swap my 5-door family hatchback for your low-slung sportscar :)

With the number of schools in that area, I'm not surprised there are so many suspension-destroying speed bumps. I avoid damage by stopping in front of them, and crawling over at a very slow speed < 5 mph.

It adds days to my journey time, and I only ever travel on that road at weekends!

Did you know a schoolchild was killed a couple of decades ago on the road there :(

Micky
05-01-2005, 23:06
If everyone beeps when they go over inappropiate speed bumps this may cause them to be removed.

ole1
06-01-2005, 00:57
I absolutely agree. The road surfaces and the road network in and around Sheffield is an absolute disgrace and I am sick of it.

Surely this is not just an irritation to the motorist but also a big turn off for investors considering bringing employment and wealth to our city.

I would say the main route into the city for visitors is going to be the Parkway - when was the last time this road was resurfaced, sign posts renewed? The authorities have spent a fortune on the repaving the central reservation recently (ffs, why!), causings months of disruption, but is this actually of any benefit to the motorist?

Surely most tax payers/electorate in sheffield drive so surely the motorist (the overtaxed motorist) as a right to better services, infrastructure and representation.

If motorists united and became an organised group we could become a powerful lobby that our servants in the town hall couldn't ignore for fear of losing their jobs.

So, motorists metaphorically kicking ass at the town hall... anyone up for it?

D2J
06-01-2005, 06:20
Speed bumps don't bother me..

What annoys me the most is that they make money available to put these speed bumps in place but do sod all about the pot holes in the majority of roads :rant:

steevie/d
06-01-2005, 07:40
these speed bumps are a nitemare ive got to fork out £250 to have my car mended now im sure its these speed bumps what has caused the damage to my suspension i know the things were put there to slow the flow of traffic in built up areas but if you drive slow over them you get rocked all over the place the ones on hucklow road are to be replaiced with a bus gate after the bus drivers comlained about them now evry one is selling up and moving away from the area i often se the joy riders going over these humps what do they care its not their car whats getting trashed and we will be left to pick up the tab for damage

Saxon
06-01-2005, 07:46
Originally posted by steevie/d
these speed bumps are a nitemare ive got to fork out £250 to have my car mended now im sure its these speed bumps what has caused the damage to my suspension

Why don't you go to see one of these solicitors that give you an hour free to see whether they would be willing to take the case on, and then challenge the council?

muddycoffee
06-01-2005, 19:06
My road is a little side road at woodseats, and we have road humps on and it's a 20mph zone.

Before the humps we used to get sad teenagers with their embarrasing tin pot cars with lowered suspension, breast cancer protector seatbelt covers, blue light on the top of the bonnet, stupid fake aircraft refuel sticker on the fuel filler cap, the one winscreen wiper in the middle of the windscreen, and some really ridiculously loud bass music coming from inside, while they tried to blow up their little 1 litre engines with noisy exhaust. To accelerate as fast as they could along the road.

This kind of behaviour was dangerous, annoying, childish and extremely selfish to the rest of the community.

Now we have the lovely red humps, we don't get it at all anymore. Thankyou council for making my little road, nice and quiet and safe for me to park my car on.

Draggletail
07-01-2005, 15:54
Originally posted by xyZed
but on large roads like Carterknowle road it's causing great inconvenience and frustration.
27 humps on Carterknowle Road I think. In my truck I am slowed down to 10 MPH because of them. Big stream of traffic behind me.

Also, all speed bumps should be of a standard, accepted height. There are hundreds of these things with varying heights. You can see great marks in the road where cars have gone over them and gouged out the tarmac with their tow bar attachments. [/B]

Someone told me of a community that had the humps lowered because they where higher than EC Regs! Had to go to court over it I understand....

SatanInHeels
07-01-2005, 16:00
sitting on the 63 bus the other day (well not quite.. but not too long ago) i really learned what happens when you go over the speed bumps at arbourthorne too fast!!

bearing in mind i am getting quite large in the baby bump department i dont think it was the best thing for me but as the driver hit the speed bumps at about 40mph i think he said we lifted at least a foot off the back seat of the bus landing quite painfully!!

and all because the driver couldnt see the bumps as they are not noticeable until you are over them!

muddycoffee
07-01-2005, 22:28
I know that this thread is intended to be where people can complain about road humps, but I'd like to mention something stupid which I see every week related to road humps in the woodseats/nether edge areas, which makes me laugh so loudly, I have to stop the car, because I have become so distracted with mirth that I might crash.

Aside from the most common humps which are like the top of a large buried pipe stretching across the roadway, or sometimes a ramp up/flat bit/ramp down. There is a second type which is a kind of square block with sloped sides, which is plonked in the middle of the lane. Now My car is a large, man's car, [with a decent sized engine] and I can straddle these without any fuss and I hardly notice that they are there. When I'm driving my girlfriend's car, this is a smaller car but not tiny, I can still do quite well with these humps by getting the four wheels lined up right, and the car in the middle, the smallest of disturbance occurs.

If I was driving a small shopping car like a cinquecento or punto or polo or something, than I would still line up the wheels and get the car right into the centre, and then the car would be disturbed a little in the smoothness of the ride but it wouldn't be too bad.
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Now what makes me laugh out loud so much that I nearly spill my beer into the footwell all over the pedals, is when someone in a tiny little car, thinks the way to get over one of these humps is to stuff the nearside wheels, right into the curb, and get the off side wheels right into the middle of the hump so that the driver gets catapulted 1 foot into the air, possibly causing discomfort, maybe lower back injury, when the offside wheels go over the highest part of the hump.

Interestingly, the driver is usually a scatty looking person, or an old person, but mainly, the look of concentration on their face is that of someone who has found a magical secret of efficient and smooth transit over an obstruction, which they have previously mastered and are not likely to tell the secret to another soul.
Before you see them batter their head on the roof, or see the contents of the suspension or chassis, as they bounce across the hump in such a way that they will take at least 1900 miles off the life of their vehicle in the long run, with their cack-handed treatment.

how's that. ? :thumbsup:

Humps . . I love `em

franc1987
07-01-2005, 23:36
there were speed bumps at my old house on Clough Grove at oughtibridge for some reason :suspect: they had to make them smaller becuase they were so many complaints about how big and how many of them are. Those of you who know clough grove is a dead end road that winds a lot :loopy: no reason for speed bumps!

There are speed bumps on the new middlewood estate where i live, there is loads of them along with big pot holes, the humps have no markings on them and they are hard to see meaning you cant reduce you speed enough to avoid them. ( if your going about 30 u need to go right down to 10 cos they are so big)


Originally posted by halevan
Hitting them can cause a driver to lose control of the steering,

this happened to me when i started my driving lessons cos one of the bumps on the estate is so vicious everything went rong and me and my instructor went ploughing towards a block of flats. thank god for dual control!

On the bus its bad on the 58 along urrr mmm i dunno what the road is called. The one inbetween the beehive and the wadsley jack near hillsborough. and before they changed the treeton bus it was a little nipper bus and going along the richmond estate on the back of that was awful.

Originally posted by muddycoffee
Interestingly, the driver is usually a scatty looking person, or an old person, but mainly, the look of concentration on their face is that of someone who has found a magical secret of efficient and smooth transit over an obstruction, which they have previously mastered and are not likely to tell the secret to another soul.
Before you see them batter their head on the roof, or see the contents of the suspension or chassis, as they bounce across the hump in such a way that they will take at least 1900 miles off the life of their vehicle in the long run, with their cack-handed treatment.
how's that. ?

Humps . . I love `em

this made me laugh. I know the types of humps you mean and i also love seeing the old men fret over them and then getting bounced like there in a washing mashine! hehe they get a bit mardy when they see u laughing at them,

muddycoffee
07-01-2005, 23:50
Frances,

I wrote that,
why does it say by vister????

your willing servent Muddy Coffee MD [struck off]

poppins
08-01-2005, 13:40
In the US we usualy get speed humps put in on roads that don't need them, thats usualy because some local politician lives on that street and has some pull, otherwise the roads that realy need them don't get them put in.

franc1987
08-01-2005, 15:09
sorry muddy coffee post editied.

muddycoffee
08-01-2005, 16:22
Originally posted by franc1987
sorry muddy coffee post editied.

Thanks, but I wasn't angry about it, didn't expect you to change it, just thought it was odd that's all. :thumbsup:

RaptorX
10-01-2005, 06:50
i saw a guy knocked off his bike by a car that was skipping the centre bump not so long back. having staggered passing points are far more efective at reducing speed than bumps are. I don't mind the ones that go a cross the wholl road, but these stupid little ones effectively filter people towards oncoming traffic as they try to find the best route for the least 'jolt'

Its about time this council started concentrating on improving the roads themselves. They waste too much money putting in bumps, sometimes it seems purely to give workmen something to do.

Look at meadowhead roundabout, it used to be if you followed the lanes properly it would filter yo to the apprpriate exit - recently they decided to remark it and now its a nightmare because people have to lane jump to get from A to B. Stupid and dangerous.

I know the spelllings bad ^^ but it is Monday morning :D

foo_fighter
10-01-2005, 08:16
Originally posted by RaptorX
i saw a guy knocked off his bike by a car that was skipping the centre bump not so long back. having staggered passing points are far more efective at reducing speed than bumps are. I don't mind the ones that go a cross the wholl road, but these stupid little ones effectively filter people towards oncoming traffic as they try to find the best route for the least 'jolt'

I think muddycoffee covered this one above, if you just "straddle" the bump, minimum jolt + maximum safety.

If the driver is too daft to do that, consequences happen, as you describe.

uniB
18-01-2005, 12:40
I've just been down Upper Albert Road and down into Heeley and I see they are hacking out the humps that have totally deteriorated. For a moment my spirits raised as I though they were getting rid of the ****ing things, I soon came to my senses and figured they're surely just going to be wasting loads more money putting new ones in.

Why oh why oh why can't they just fix the rest of the roads, fill in all the holes etc and give over with these things???

beansfeast
18-01-2005, 12:59
The ideal solution to this is to dig up all the 'humps' and fill all the potholes with them. Then we will have jolt free journeys around Sheffield again!
In fact, I wonder if Sheffield council actually dig holes in the road to use for making humps because they can't afford more tarmac.... hmmmm... :idea:

On a slightly different note, I've always hated all 4x4 owners that clearly have never actually been off road. It is most ridiculous to see a child being driven to school in a 4x4 that can actually fit 7 or 8 - even worse is that the majority of these owners simply cannot park to save their lives! :suspect:
However, considering the state of roads in Sheffield, I am finding it harder and harder to maintain this view and indeed sometimes wonder wether I should get a 4x4 of my own. At least garage costs of getting the tracking redone constantly and the suspension replaced should go down...

coopster1974
18-01-2005, 13:30
Do people agree that they slow people down though?

I take em at about 5mph - end result is no kids hit. What is wrong with that?

Cars are only damaged takin them too fast or at the wrong angle therefore you have yourselves to blame.

More speed bumps I say.

incognito
18-01-2005, 13:31
A rash of the darned things are appearing all over Arbourthorne Road and surrounding roads as we speak!! I have no objection to them, they dont seem to do much damage to my loverly skoda felicia, and we tootle all over sheffield!
What is bl##dy annoying is the mess created by the number 51 buses going over the kerb and grassed areas whilst the bumps are being put in - im disgusted at the mess they have created, just becasue they cant be bothered to wait while the workmen shift the lorry taking the tarmac away.
have written to First, expressing my disgust....probably wont get a response, but thats another story!!

;)

Ousetunes
18-01-2005, 14:06
There is another argument here. Many of these things are placed in areas that are still 30 mph speed limits. Some areas have reduced speed limits but some haven't, Carterknowle being one if my memory serves me correctly.

By definition then, I'm allowed to travel along that road at speeds up to 30mph. But the chances are I won't, because it's also obvious that these humps are there for a reason. But they still irritate me to bits. It's not that they're just bloody uncomfortable to go over or to try and straddle, it's the effect they have on the appearance of the area in which they are located. They make certain streets look like Toy Town! And what angers me is that there are places with new, smooth road humps bang next to a stretch of road that's got more holes than the Albert Hall (thanks John). Priorities!

Having said all this, I'm a parent and shudder at the thought of those parents whose kids have been involved in accidents due to excessive speeds in built up areas. I just wish the emphasis could be on education rather than the safety concious motorist having to put up with 'traffic calming measures' due to the actions of, probably, a minority.