View Full Version : Flooding in Hillsborough?


feargal
18-03-2005, 12:26
There seems to be a bit of a flood in Hillsborough - Holme Lane, Rivelin Valley Road area.

Can any of our borough correspondents tell me what's going on please?

scottf
18-03-2005, 12:31
oh no- i left the bath running again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

feargal
18-03-2005, 12:33
I'm worried we are in for another Sheffield Flood! There was a LOT of water... no doubt down to workmen 'mending' stuff.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 12:35
First thoughts (apart from praying my house is OK) is that it's to do with all the massive holes being dug by Barhale for the water works.

feargal
18-03-2005, 12:40
Hotphil... I hope your house is OK - there was loads of mucky brown water at the one way system. I'm glad I live at the top of the hill!! I hope I haven't worried you too much. :thumbsup:

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 12:41
Pehaps now is a good time to sell up...

"... comes with interesting water feature".. :suspect:

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 12:49
Without giving too much away on where I live, yep - I am worried. As long as it wasn't too bad then I should be OK. Worried about the missus driving home though.

MobileB
18-03-2005, 12:52
It is pretty bad down ther at moment. Cars stuck in it at Hillsborough corner.

Classic Rock
18-03-2005, 13:03
I turned off Penistone Rd onto Rutland Rd yesterday lunchtime and there was a Yorkshire Water bloke parked in the middle of the road allowing a jet of water from a main to shoot up out of the road all over the road. It was going everywhere and he seemed to be just watching it. Overflow?

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 13:11
It looks a lot like someone has managed to hit the main in a big way and the drains just aren't coping with it.. There's water coming clean out of the storm drains along parts of Holme Lane near Malin Bridge...

Oh and my advice is to find a different route home if you live in Stannington or Loxley.. Avoid Malin Bridge like the plague!

Meaks
18-03-2005, 13:20
Oh no :o

Is it OK for walking, I can drive home around the back but need to get a tram into town :(

algy
18-03-2005, 13:22
2 pm local news didn't say where the water was coming from, but 25 houses had flooded cellars, and people were sandbagging the front doors on Loxley Road. Fire officer warned people to stay away because the water was deep and fast flowing enough to take you off your feet. Rivelin Valley is at a standstill, as is Hillsborough, presumably from stacked back traffic. The reporter said the water was well up the wheels of cars in depth.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 13:23
This is NOT good. But at least the server in my cellar is still (at the moment) pinging!

underground1
18-03-2005, 13:29
Would it be so bad? :clap:

SFK7863
18-03-2005, 13:29
I have to drive down Penistone Road on my way home. Hope it's not causing too much chaos there tonight (though looking at the cameras on teh council's site it's not too bad traffic wise at the moment).

There was a water van letting water jet out of a pipe at the bottom of Rutland Road this morniing as I drove up Penistone Road. Not sure what that was all about.

Carmine
18-03-2005, 13:31
Crap on a stick!

Why does this have to happen near my house?!?

Classic Rock
18-03-2005, 13:33
Originally posted by keithmdw


There was a water van letting water jet out of a pipe at the bottom of Rutland Road this morniing as I drove up Penistone Road. Not sure what that was all about.

They were doing that yesterday, see my post earlier.

pussycat
18-03-2005, 13:38
There's no runnng water in the Mappin St area of town. Is that anyhting to do with the flood do you think?

beckyaa
18-03-2005, 13:39
I got back from the gym and tried to turn on the shower and it didn't work - I've been fiddling around with the fuses and all sorts trying to fix it! Thanks Forum for being the first to break the news as usual - now realised it's the water supply and that the taps don't work either!

Just wondering if there is enough hot water in the tank for a bath!

Kthebean
18-03-2005, 13:39
None in broomhall either, I have contacted yorkshire water, they have said if its off for four or five hours they will come round with loud hailer vans telling us where to get water from!!

JohnS6
18-03-2005, 13:40
Anyone know what it's like up the hills - e.g. ball road/taplin/oakland in Malin Bridge?

I'm worried about my house and also for the welfare of the gimp in the cellar.

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 13:41
There seems to be a very definite connection between this:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32905

... and this thread..


My guess is that given that there's a resevoir down rivelin valley and the break appears to be in and around the work being done at Malin Bridge that they've killed the pumps up at the resevoir and they're now waiting for the main to empty out until they can get in and repair the main..

Not quite the same as turning off a tap... net result, no water around for a lot of people..

Doesn't half make you think...

feargal
18-03-2005, 13:41
I think the gimp will be OK... it's gonna need a lot of water to flood up hill!

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 13:43
I'm in the ball road area and luckily we don't appear to be directly affected yet but I'm willing to bet that we'll see seepage in cellars soon if not already...

Some of the businesses like Towsure round here are not going to be having fun though...

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 13:43
Right. Am running home now. Pictures to be uploaded shortly.

lalaland
18-03-2005, 13:46
Too late :D

My pictures are here, although they are from when the flood began just before 1pm.

On one of the pictures you can see the worker running down warning people and the flood water following him.

Some of the other pictures show only a CM or two of water, but the rest show about 1 - 2 inches and the traffic cones started floating. One hit my car!

Anyway, pics are here (http://www.afmoore.plus.com/flood)

Birth-Peace
18-03-2005, 13:50
The good news is that I just popped out with my camera, and found the road pretty much dry! I walked home up Holme Lane from Hillsborough about 20 minutes ago and it was in full flow, but there appears to be no "new" water coming up. Certainly the Ball Road/Holme Lane junction is almost clear...

sanman
18-03-2005, 13:56
On the radio at 2:30 that Loxley New Road is closed and under a foot of water.

underground1
18-03-2005, 14:00
Least ya can all get a wash now....and dont have to pay 4 water! :clap: :clap: :clap: .......lol

Carmine
18-03-2005, 14:02
Originally posted by underground1
Least ya can all get a wash now....and dont have to pay 4 water! :clap: :clap: :clap: .......lol I was hoping it might have hung around for a few hours and washed the burburry clad scum away from Hilsborough tonight.

lalaland
18-03-2005, 14:03
Originally posted by Carmine
I was hoping it might have hung around for a few hours and washed the burburry clad scum away from Hilsborough tonight. Rats can swim....

scottf
18-03-2005, 14:04
Originally posted by Carmine
I was hoping it might have hung around for a few hours and washed the burburry clad scum away from Hilsborough tonight.

Its bad luck to speak ill of the fashion dead!!!

underground1
18-03-2005, 14:04
Originally posted by Carmine
I was hoping it might have hung around for a few hours and washed the burburry clad scum away from Hilsborough tonight.

lol....wen there stoned later they will tink the water is amazing, it will keep them occupied for hours. :hihi:

Carmine
18-03-2005, 14:07
Reminds me of the time during the war when the Moor flooded and was bombed by the Germans who mistook it for the river Don...no chance of the Luftwaffe coming out of retirement to exteriminate a couple of hundred charver scumbags I suppose!

Kristian
18-03-2005, 14:08
Just been on Holme Lane, and the flooding is not too bad now! Only an inch of water or so, but the traffic is chaos!

K x

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 14:09
Just a thought guys...

...the topic was what again?... Hmm? *hint* *hint*

Carmine
18-03-2005, 14:14
Originally posted by Martin_s
...the topic was what again? Just read the title at the top of the page, silly! : )

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 14:14
@martin - i live very near the bottom of ball road and am on my way home, the traffic and trams look ok - will my house be?

lalaland
18-03-2005, 14:16
Penistone Road and Langsett Road appear to be suffering from the traffic build up at the moment in a tailback sort of way.

Avoid these two roads as well if possible.

raskel
18-03-2005, 14:17
ye i has to walk home from hillsboro to stannington at about 1pm... blumin well hot walking up hollins lane.

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 14:18
Originally posted by hotphil
@martin - i live very near the bottom of ball road and am on my way home, the traffic and trams look ok - will my house be?
Yeah you should be fine... *gurgle*.. ;)

There's really nothing to see and our cellar isn't damp as yet..

Birth-Peace
18-03-2005, 14:19
Originally posted by hotphil
@martin - i live very near the bottom of ball road and am on my way home, the traffic and trams look ok - will my house be?

martin went down the cellar to check for water and came back alive, so I'd have thought you'd be fine ;)

(and he even managed to post a reply while I was writing this...!)

matsalleh
18-03-2005, 14:19
Originally posted by lalaland
Penistone Road and Langsett Road appear to be suffering from the traffic build up at the moment in a tailback sort of way.

Avoid these two roads as well if possible.
Still almost gridlocked.One Policeman at Bradfield rd roundabout turning traffic back.I would have thought he would be better off at Penistone Rd stopping them coming up there at all.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 14:26
Cool. Am at morrisons now and traffic looks bad (what's new!) but my boxers are chafing i have walked so fast. Think will check house then pop to yew tree for cold beer.

pussycat
18-03-2005, 14:30
Originally posted by hotphil
Cool. Am at morrisons now and traffic looks bad (what's new!) but my boxers are chafing i have walked so fast. Think will check house then pop to yew tree for cold beer.

Yes, I believe cold beer is just the thing for chafed nether regions :thumbsup:

Rich
18-03-2005, 14:32
Originally posted by Carmine
I was hoping it might have hung around for a few hours and washed the burburry clad scum away from Hilsborough tonight.

*sigh*

There are no chavs in Hillsborough, it's a bit early yet for the mass crowds in the Ball or the Shakey... :loopy:

lalaland
18-03-2005, 14:34
Originally posted by hotphil
Cool. Am at morrisons now and traffic looks bad (what's new!) but my boxers are chafing i have walked so fast. Think will check house then pop to yew tree for cold beer. Are you accessing the Sheffield forum on a wireless device?:confused:

Carmine
18-03-2005, 14:35
Originally posted by Rich
*sigh*

There are no chavs in Hillsborough, it's a bit early yet for the mass crowds in the Ball or the Shakey... :loopy: I did say hang around for "a few hours" and wash the scum away "tonight", what's loopy about that?

lalaland
18-03-2005, 14:35
Originally posted by Rich
*sigh*

There are no chavs in Hillsborough, it's a bit early yet for the mass crowds in the Ball or the Shakey... :loopy: I pass through Hillsborough several times a week and have seen many a chav there during daytime hours.

They normally hover around the Hillsborough corner area and there are many different variaties of these species there this time of day.

underground1
18-03-2005, 14:35
Originally posted by lalaland
Are you accessing the Sheffield forum on a wireless device?:confused:

thats what i was wondering :confused:

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 14:40
Yep. Orange are good enough to keep sending me 3g handsets to test for them :-)

when's the mobile version of the forum coming ;-)

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 14:40
Originally posted by lalaland
Are you accessing the Sheffield forum on a wireless device?:confused:
Well we know roughly where he is, what he looks like and that he's carrying something valuable...

Any bets on when we see a thread on a mugging in and around the Hillsborough area? ;)

Carmine
18-03-2005, 14:44
Originally posted by Martin_s
Well we know roughly where he is, what he looks like and that he's carrying something valuable...

Any bets on when we see a thread on a mugging in and around the Hillsborough area? ;) Run Hotphil, run home! LOL

Birth-Peace
18-03-2005, 14:46
Originally posted by Carmine
Run Hotphil, run home! LOL

Even better, cos we know which road he lives near the bottom of :)

(which happens to be the same one I live on, and that would be a bit suspicious, so I'll leave it to someone else!)

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 14:47
Lol i've even got a cold beer in my hand!

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 14:48
Originally posted by hotphil
Lol i've even got a cold beer in my hand!
I'd be more inclined to mug you for that actually :P

Carmine
18-03-2005, 14:48
Originally posted by hotphil
Lol i've even got a cold beer in my hand! Lucky bugger!

D2J
18-03-2005, 14:48
So we've gone from a flood to chavs.. all in one thread :D

I'm giving Hillsborough a miss.. The traffic is manic at the moment I'm told :roll:

Carmine
18-03-2005, 14:50
Originally posted by Deejay
So we've gone from a flood to chavs.. all in one thread. It's hard to mention the former without the latter when Hilsborough is involved...like peaches and cream, but not nearly as appealing.

_Ren
18-03-2005, 14:52
Originally posted by matsalleh
Still almost gridlocked.One Policeman at Bradfield rd roundabout turning traffic back.I would have thought he would be better off at Penistone Rd stopping them coming up there at all.

can anyone let me know which will be the best way to get from sheffield centre to wisewood??

deelightful3
18-03-2005, 14:55
wot is a shav please?

Classic Rock
18-03-2005, 14:56
Have to go from the pub to the Northern General soon, bet there'll be a lonnnnng queue. Then again, rush hour, Friday. Happy happy, joy joy.

deelightful3
18-03-2005, 14:56
oops sorry spelt that wrong i mean chavs

lalaland
18-03-2005, 14:58
Wow! Someone that doesn't know what a Chav is? :o

This isn't much of a definition, but it gives a good idea of them and I am sure a quick spell in Hillsborough will give you a better idea

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chav&r=f

scottf
18-03-2005, 14:58
Originally posted by _Ren
can anyone let me know which will be the best way to get from sheffield centre to wisewood??

Helecopter by the sound of it!!!

LL200
18-03-2005, 14:59
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4362055.stm

deelightful3
18-03-2005, 15:00
oh come on am i the only one then!

Classic Rock
18-03-2005, 15:03
Please be advised that due to a burst water main in Hillsborough, Holme Lane up to Malin Bridge is currently inaccessible and police are diverting traffic at Hillsborough Corner away from the area.

Bus Services Affected
First Bus Services 81 and 82 are going no further than the Hillsborough Interchange. For further public transport information, please call the traveline on: 01709 51 51 51

If your household is affected by the burst
Please call the Yorkshire Water Hotline on 0845 124 2424

Traffic Camera Information
If you are heading home through the north of the city, you might want to check out the following traffic cameras before your journey:

Owlerton Green - http://sccplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/utc/cam15.htm

Middlewood Road - Catchbar Lane - http://sccplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/utc/cam16.htm

al_partridge
18-03-2005, 15:15
Might be a daft question, but as there appear to be two concurrent threads about flooding in Hillsborough and water off in the city centre, but.....do the taps work in Hillsborough?!

I think I might stop at work and get some flexi-time in, and hope that the apparent chaos dies down a bit in the next couple of hours!

sheffieldcpl
18-03-2005, 15:17
traffic still very very slowly moving about 1 metre per minute if that

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 15:24
I've just had a shower after my run home and the pressure seemed slightly higher than normal. Got a supply of beer in just in case there's no water though :thumbsup:

Does anyone know those affected on Holme Lane? I've got a free weekend and if I can help out with clearing up if needed.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 15:25
And hey! those traffic cameras rock! :headbang:

Rich
18-03-2005, 15:27
Originally posted by Classic Rock
Please be advised that due to a burst water main in Hillsborough, Holme Lane up to Malin Bridge is currently inaccessible and police are diverting traffic at Hillsborough Corner away from the area.

Bus Services Affected
First Bus Services 81 and 82 are going no further than the Hillsborough Interchange. For further public transport information, please call the traveline on: 01709 51 51 51

If your household is affected by the burst
Please call the Yorkshire Water Hotline on 0845 124 2424

Traffic Camera Information
If you are heading home through the north of the city, you might want to check out the following traffic cameras before your journey:

Owlerton Green - http://sccplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/utc/cam15.htm

Middlewood Road - Catchbar Lane - http://sccplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/utc/cam16.htm

Good job I came home early then if the 81 and 82 aren't running else I'd have been stuck.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 15:30
Yep, have advised the missus to leave the car at the gym and walk home.

duffman
18-03-2005, 15:35
Was on the way down Stannington road about an hour ago when the police were blocking off the road. The only way out was to go through rivelin or Loxley, the traffic from rivelin was coming all the way up to stannington road so it would have taken ages to get thorugh.

The water seems to be running fine at the top of Stannington

raskel
18-03-2005, 15:35
Originally posted by Rich
Good job I came home early then if the 81 and 82 aren't running else I'd have been stuck.

could of walked like i had to lol :rant:

lalaland
18-03-2005, 15:36
My mate just msg'd me to say that we could be without water for the majority of the weekend.

Ecclesall's been affected and I know parts of Millhouses have been too. (bugger...........)

She also reckons that when she called Yorkshire Water they said it could be a few days for water to be restored to all parts, so I am not sure if she's winding me up or if this is true! Does anyoen here have any info?

(aparantly they are rolling out those water supply trailers)

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 15:39
With such a large breakage/leak my guess is that stemming the flow was top priority. Permanent repairs will probably mean further disruption. Geez, I think Barhale and Yorkshire water may be having meetings and over the weekend! I would not like to be in the shoes of whoever actually broke through the main. Ouch.
I'd also suggest that the water board's helpdesk will always err on the side of caution - the actual facts take a while to filter through and if they promise all will be OK and it isn't then they will get complaints. Better to be cautious.

sanman
18-03-2005, 15:40
I have heard that Loxley New Road has collapsed, should make it even more fun getting around.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 15:48
Collapsed?! That sounds bad. Heading for a walk round the block me thinkst......... back in a mo

lalaland
18-03-2005, 15:59
Not suprising, the Yorkshire Water website isn't loading and appears to be dead.

I suspect the mass of traffic isn't doing the server much good.

Anyone know anything yet?

Thanks

igm1
18-03-2005, 16:00
Stannington near the Sportsman, water is ok cause I've just had a shower.

Had to walk home from work though :rant:

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 16:02
OMG! The road is GONE! Seriously. The Yew Tree could be in danger here! Uploading pics....

igm1
18-03-2005, 16:02
Originally posted by hotphil
OMG! The road is GONE! Seriously. The Yew Tree could be in danger here! Uploading pics....

Right now?!?!

The road seemed ok when I was walking up, they seemed to be dealing with it!

sanman
18-03-2005, 16:04
C'mon Phil where are the pics:help:

msdiane
18-03-2005, 16:04
Bradfield road was closed off as well for some reason, but there was no water there. I need to get to Stannington from hillsborough about 6ish anyone know if this is possible? not sure if Stnnington road is closed

igm1
18-03-2005, 16:05
Originally posted by msdiane
Bradfield road was closed off as well for some reason, but there was no water there. I need to get to Stannington from hillsborough about 6ish anyone know if this is possible? not sure if Stnnington road is closed

You'll have to walk I'm afraid

Unless there's anyone from Stannington who can pick you up a bit further up? Cars are stopped at the bottom of Wood Lane near the Anvil.

pussycat
18-03-2005, 16:06
Originally posted by hotphil
OMG! The road is GONE! Seriously. The Yew Tree could be in danger here! Uploading pics....

hotphil you are the best roving reporter any one could hope for!
Doing a great job! :thumbsup:

Can we send you out to cover other Sheffield emergencies too?

lalaland
18-03-2005, 16:09
Just spoke to Yorkshire Water (the friendliest CSR I ever spoke to, which made a nice change) and they said the water is back on now as they've fixed the pipe.

The only delay is people turning their taps on waiting for it which causes massive demand while it's being pumped through again.

Oh yeah, the water may be discoloured at first too, but the whole of Sheffield is aparantly back on! :D

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 16:09
try this link http://blog.eggsareevil.com/snaps/images/flood01.jpg

or

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17462513@N00/6785859/

not a great pic, but the best one that came out. What it doesn't quite shows is how much of a "dint" there is all around it for several metres - the whole road has sunk.

Going round to take some more in a mo as missus will be home and wants to see. Also, please no one set fire to your house - all the fire engines and Operational Support Vehicles are here!

HarrietStar
18-03-2005, 16:10
from bbc:

"Burst mains pipe causes problems
Thousands of homes in Sheffield have been left without water because of a burst water main.
Loxley New Road was closed on Friday afternoon and several homes were flooded in the Mallin Bridge area.

The pipe carries water from Wadsley reservoir to the city and was ruptured by contractors working for Yorkshire Water, a company spokeswoman said.

Although it is too early to tell how many homes are affected, it is likely to be a few thousand, she added.

"We are currently concentrating on getting supplies back on, isolating the burst and getting things back to normal as soon as possible," the spokeswoman said.

A Yorkshire Water incident vehicle was being sent to the site on Friday afternoon to offer concerned residents help and advice. "

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 16:12
Msdiane - the roads are closed cos that's that many emergency vehicles/road sweepers/middle management cars with a hard hat on the parcel shelf etc that the roads are impassable. If you can put off your journey - do. If not, allow extra time.

That sounds like something the travel report would say. Oh well. :roll:

msdiane
18-03-2005, 16:16
Thanks for info, where is the pic taken phil?, I needed to get to Stannington to pick up a friend and her kids who are staying over at mine tonight, dont fancy carrying 3 quilts and three airbeds all the way down the hill. (could do with puttin one of those funny thingy-majigs at the end of this but dont know how)

sanman
18-03-2005, 16:16
Phil

Is the road that bad that it will be inaccessable to traffic?

roughy101
18-03-2005, 16:17
Originally posted by _Ren
can anyone let me know which will be the best way to get from sheffield centre to wisewood?? along penistone rd,up parkside rd,wadsley lane onto wisewood.dont know how heavy the traffic is on penistone rd at the moment,but just come along holmelane from tramways with no problem,had to turn up ball rd though because the one way system is closed.hope this helps.

lalaland
18-03-2005, 16:18
Originally posted by HarrietStar
from bbc:
" That was posted earlier in the thread.... :P (or a link to it was)

roughy101
18-03-2005, 16:20
Originally posted by sanman
Phil

Is the road that bad that it will be inaccessable to traffic? the flooding has gone now, but the emergency services are still very much in attendance.

raskel
18-03-2005, 16:22
Originally posted by hotphil
try this link http://blog.eggsareevil.com/snaps/images/flood01.jpg

or

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17462513@N00/6785859/

not a great pic, but the best one that came out. What it doesn't quite shows is how much of a "dint" there is all around it for several metres - the whole road has sunk.

Going round to take some more in a mo as missus will be home and wants to see. Also, please no one set fire to your house - all the fire engines and Operational Support Vehicles are here!

first link doesn't work. :( have you any more? plz

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 16:24
Originally posted by roughy101
along penistone rd,up parkside rd,wadsley lane onto wisewood.dont know how heavy the traffic is on penistone rd at the moment,but just come along holmelane from tramways with no problem,had to turn up ball rd though because the one way system is closed.hope this helps.
I would strongly advise against trying to go through the back ways along Taplin Road or up Holme Lane because
a) the police are blocking some streets
...and
b) the parking around there is so dense you can guarantee some moron will clog it up and cause a complete grid lock...

Not only that but you'll smash so many wingmirrors and I will catch and do likewise to your car because mine's had it done too many times to count and it'll make a nice change to return the favour! :suspect:

Smarter move would be to go WAY out via Middlewood and around in a loop or out through Crookes way and over the Rivellin Valley... Whatever you do though AVOID Hillsborough corner and any junction that brings you to the one way system at Malin Bridge..

You have been warned...

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 16:25
That picture is on the corner where the Yew Tree is. The Yew Tree was on my right as I took that picture with my back to the tram stop if that makes sense.
TBH I was surprised pedestrians were allowed that close, there's a barrier, but to me it looks like the Yew Tree could be in danger.
The whole of the one way triangle is closed off. I'm not trying to drive anywhere, but I imagine that fairly well cripples this corner of the city.
That junction won't be in use for some considerable time as the subsidence extends across the carriageway towards the offy on the other side. Really, avoid it if at all possible. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some fairly unconventional traffic management were imposed when the road reopens - this does NOT look like a small repair job! Sadly, I'd guess that won't be for some time as the available tarmac is full of emergency vehicles, including some funky looking special fire brigade ones - Optimus Prime anyone?
I'll go and get some decent pics in a mo, need to go out for more beer anyway!

Edit - I have problems with some people accessing my photos when they're behind firewalls. The second link is the same pic, but I'm just off out (yes, I'll be the one in the grey jumper covering his PJ's) to take some more.

msdiane
18-03-2005, 16:32
Repair to road should'nt take that long, approx 6 formen, 4 senior managers 2 dozen workmen and a bit of tarmac and "it'll be reight enuff". Be like most road in Sheefield then ;smile

jgharston
18-03-2005, 16:49
ive jumped to the end of the thread so apols for eepetition.

i'm standing ou6side the yew trer. it looks like a small bomn went off in the road outside. it's obvious thet the fl9w if water has washed away Most of the soil/etc from under the tarmac. once they turned the ewater off the road collapsed into the void.

evildrneil
18-03-2005, 16:51
Its gotta be a pretty big problem as chunks of the university (some distance away!) are without water - eeeek!

jgharston
18-03-2005, 16:51
workmen are making good progress clearing the ruble. loxley new road has just re-opened allowing traffic from stannington and rivelin to get to hillsborough. holmes lane is still closed on the one-way section. loxley road is still closed ar the bottom of dykes lane.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 16:53
Just had a chat with a guy driving a dumper truck. Apparently a tunnelling machine (?!) went through the main next to the Yew Tree. The wall on the bridge over the river next to the road that heads up the Rivelin Valley had to be demolished emergency-stylee to allow most of the water to escape into the river rather than down Holme Lane. Quick thinking Barhale - well done! :thumbsup:

More pics being uploaded....

jgharston
18-03-2005, 16:54
my advice - avoid malin bridge until tomorrow. to grt to loxley recc. travel via middlewood and w
dsley lane. to get to stannington recc go via crosspool, hagg hill, hollins lane or rails road. traffic moving Very slowley. expe\t loxley road closed at least another hour

Martin_s
18-03-2005, 16:58
Just heard that all bar the Loxley New Road turn off have now been re-opened... Looking at the subsidence on the road I doubt very much it'll be open for another couple of days.

Stannington Road will be re-opened as well though but with their road works up there I'm guessing it's still not a great option, especially given that all of Loxleys traffic will be be going that way too...


That hole though... :o Oh my! ... and you're right about the Yew Tree the foundations look to be in serious danger.

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 17:03
Some pics of hole available at http://www.flickr.com/photos/17462513@N00/

I hope. Tell me if link is wrong!

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 17:06
JGHarston - you in a suit on a SE P900/910? Think I saw you. :thumbsup:

jgharston
18-03-2005, 17:08
wall between two bridges gone. traffic flowing, but *slowly*. no sign of any buses to stannington. holme lane just re-opened - still recc. should avoid it. police giving priority to repair vehicles and traffic from stannington.

jgharston
18-03-2005, 17:12
Originally posted by hotphil
JGHarston - you in a suit on a SE P900/910? Think I saw you. :thumbsup:
Yep, probably me. I've got a shoulder bag, and am typing on a Xda II PocketPC ARM-powered.

I'd wave if I knew where you were :)

jgharston
18-03-2005, 17:15
Half the people here are taking pivtures with camera phones, the otger half are talking on mobiles. I tried to phone the office a bit ago and kept getting 'network busy'! :)

jgharston
18-03-2005, 17:21
All three legs of the one-way system now open - cheers for the boys and girls in fluorescent yellow! Workmen now rearranging fencing at bottom on Dykes Lane to give repair vehicles access to repair.

jgharston
18-03-2005, 17:23
It's getting all mundane now, so I'm off home. See you around :)

HotPhil
18-03-2005, 17:26
Yep, probably me. I've got a shoulder bag, and am typing on a Xda II PocketPC ARM-powered.

Me getting my devices wrong again! Soz. Must be all the beer. If I'd known, I'd have asked to have an play with the XDAII!

Birth-Peace
19-03-2005, 18:53
Couldnt have happened on a worse day for me. It was my HEn Night last night and it took me forever to get home from work and then back again :-(

I had to park my car on Rivelin Valley Road and walk home....


Ah well least the flooding didnt reach our house although it was getting pretty dicey on the end of Ball Road for a while, thought I was going to have to get the cats some arm bands or should that be leg bands

lalaland
19-03-2005, 23:17
Originally posted by Olliekitten
thought I was going to have to get the cats some arm bands or should that be leg bands Just in case of flooding issues in the future, I know that cats can swim as I have seen one of mine do it.

It wasn't too chuffed about it, but they can:D

feargal
20-03-2005, 06:54
Wow, I'm glad I started this thread now! I thought it was just a minor little spillage... Then it all got very exciting with collapsing roads, bridge demolition, etc. :clap:

The road junction outside the Yew Tree was in a terrible condition before this, so maybe the powers that be will repair the road properly (or more likely just patch it up so it sinks under the volume of traffic into huge potholes within about a week).

Bruce_Shark
20-03-2005, 08:54
Originally posted by hotphil
The wall on the bridge over the river next to the road that heads up the Rivelin Valley had to be demolished emergency-stylee to allow most of the water to escape into the river rather than down Holme Lane. Quick thinking Barhale - well done! :thumbsup:

AFAIK the wall started to go on it's own under the pressure of water, then the SYFRS instructed more be removed for safety / to further ease the flow.

Originally posted by hotphil
Just had a chat with a guy driving a dumper truck. Apparently a tunnelling machine (?!) went through the main next to the Yew Tree.
Yep, that was Barhale.

sanman
20-03-2005, 09:05
I hope Barhale will be picking up the bill for all the extra Policing & Emergency Services etc.

lalaland
20-03-2005, 10:26
Imagine what kind of weekend the person(s) responsible for the actual damage have had.

Wonder if they'll be back to work tomorrow morning?:P

PaulTansley
20-03-2005, 11:43
I seem to have joined this thread at a late stage so apologies for not making much sense here.
I was actually stuck in all that water.
I just came back from the Peaks on my bike and as I turned the bottom of Rivelin Valley Rd an almighty river of water cascaded round the corner from Loxley Rd.
There was a loud bang before it.
I was totally cut off as you could not walk on the road so I made my way up towards the yew Tree using what bit of dry pathment was left.
The furthest I could get was the newsagents on the corner of Loxley Rd as the bang blew up the whole pathment and road at the very front of the Yew Tree pub.
The force of the water was so strong that it was impossible to cross leaving me stranded in the newsagents.
My first thoughts were "oh no, the dams gone", it was that bad.
The shop was flooded out within seconds and his cellar was totally submerged.
The bottom half was the worse a the chip shop and properties there were flooded within minutes.
Ooh, this'l cost em.

sanman
20-03-2005, 12:23
Maybe if they had concentrated on doing one bit at a time rather than having 4 or 5 going then they could have taken enough care to ensure that this sort of thing didn't happen.

I hope the Corn Mill wasn't badly effected.

Fareast
20-03-2005, 13:25
It can't be very exciting living round Hillsborough, can it ?
As far as I can see , there's been a fairly minor flood , 2 ft. deep , no-one seriously injured and no long-lasting effect.But the way a lot of people have reacted you'd think there'd been a major disaster---"bridges demolished " , " streets disappearing ". It's the usual British disease of exaggerating every minor disaster or health problem.Perhaps people are bored with life as it really is so they go potty at every little incident.
I wonder what people make of it who come from areas in the world where they do have genuine disasters as opposed to inconvenience ? If there were a major disaster in Sheffield they'd have to invent a new language to describe it.

Kristian
20-03-2005, 13:30
Originally posted by Fareast
It can't be very exciting living round Hillsborough, can it ?
As far as I can see , there's been a fairly minor flood , 2 ft. deep , no-one seriously injured and no long-lasting effect.But the way a lot of people have reacted you'd think there'd been a major disaster---"bridges demolished " , " streets disappearing ". It's the usual British disease of exaggerating every minor disaster or health problem.Perhaps people are bored with life as it really is so they go potty at every little incident.
I wonder what people make of it who come from areas in the world where they do have genuine disasters as opposed to inconvenience ? If there were a major disaster in Sheffield they'd have to invent a new language to describe it.

Tell that to the people who watched the 2 ft deep water going past their house carrying lumps of road, and flooding their cellars. Given that there is a dam a few miles up the road, and that Holme Lane was the scene of the original Sheffield flood, I imagine it was quite frightening for them at the time!

K x

Martin_s
20-03-2005, 13:36
Sorry Fareast but nobody overreacted... The net result was that a critical junction was blocked... any calls to emergency services in the Loxley area or indeed in and around Hillsborough would have suffered from severe delays.

Also, for those businesses who saw their shops flooded there was a very real cost and plenty of reason for panic... you ever seen what happens when cold water hits hot oil, let alone a fish and chip shop hot oil cooker?!!

So, enough of the condescending patronising crud if you don't mind... It may not have been a tsunami but it wasn't a normal day either.

Fareast
20-03-2005, 13:45
Yes , but a lot of the posts were sounding hysterical , long after they knew it was only a burst water main'
How many times over the past years have "doom " stories done the rounds and a short time later , you never hear anything more about it.It's all part of the same syndrome. We lead safe lives in this country as far as disease and disasters are concerned , compared to many places and a lot of people can't accept that.
So , they make their safe little lives more exciting by going overboard every time there's 2 inches of snow or a 1 hour power cut.
The media contribute as well , naturally ---a "disaster" is always good news for them !

Kristian
20-03-2005, 15:06
Originally posted by Fareast
Yes , but a lot of the posts were sounding hysterical , long after they knew it was only a burst water main'
How many times over the past years have "doom " stories done the rounds and a short time later , you never hear anything more about it.It's all part of the same syndrome. We lead safe lives in this country as far as disease and disasters are concerned , compared to many places and a lot of people can't accept that.
So , they make their safe little lives more exciting by going overboard every time there's 2 inches of snow or a 1 hour power cut.
The media contribute as well , naturally ---a "disaster" is always good news for them !
In August last year, there was an incident of flooding in Boscastle, Cornwall. 100 people were airlifted to safety from roftops, 50 cars were swept away, and 34 people died. While the flooding in Hillsborough (this time!) was nothing like as severe, I think you need to re-evaluate your statement that 'we lead safe lives' in the UK!

Check this (http://www.swenvo.org.uk/environment/sec_flashflood.asp) out for more info on Boscastle, and this out for details of Sheffield's 1864 flood which was in exactly the same place here. (http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/flood.html)

K x

sham71
20-03-2005, 15:18
Nobody died in last years Boscastle flood. Think you are getting mixed up with the one 50 years ago.

Kristian
20-03-2005, 15:25
Originally posted by sham71
Nobody died in last years Boscastle flood. Think you are getting mixed up with the one 50 years ago.

That's not what it says on the link!



Boscastle, Cornwall (16th August 2004)

Heavy storms on Monday 16th August 2004 hit the area of Boscastle and Crackington Haven in North Cornwall, causing 6cm (2ins) of rain to fall in two hours in the Boscastle area, see the radar image below. Accentuated by the steep-sided topography surrounding the Boscastle area, such high rainfall falling in such a short time could not be absorbed into the ground and a 3-metre high flood rushed through the village (travelling up to 40mph)

According to the MET Office, the trigger mechanism for this storm appeared to be the convergence of winds along the coast and the high ground in the local area which also helped to generate heavy showers, which were then exacerbated by the local topography around Boscastle.

These heavy and thundery showers were very slow to die out. The highest rainfall totals for the day were for Slaughterbridge ( between Camelford and Tintagel), which received almost 75 mm (the equivalent of the average rainfall for August).

More than 100 people were airlifted by the rescue services from rooftops, trees and on cars where they had clambered to safety. Around 50 cars were also swept into the harbour and several buildings totally destroyed.

For more information about the Boscastle floods and useful contacts if you have been affected visit the North Devon District Council flooding update pages

feargal
20-03-2005, 15:47
Originally posted by Fareast
Yes , but a lot of the posts were sounding hysterical , long after they knew it was only a burst water main'


I don't want to detract from the nastiness of the situation for those directly affected, but hmmm, have you never livened up a dull Friday afternoon with a bit o'drama?!

redrobbo
20-03-2005, 15:53
Originally posted by Kristian
In August last year, there was an incident of flooding in Boscastle, Cornwall. 100 people were airlifted to safety from roftops, 50 cars were swept away, and 34 people died. While the flooding in Hillsborough (this time!) was nothing like as severe, I think you need to re-evaluate your statement that 'we lead safe lives' in the UK!

Check this (http://www.swenvo.org.uk/environment/sec_flashflood.asp) out for more info on Boscastle, and this out for details of Sheffield's 1864 flood which was in exactly the same place here. (http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/flood.html)

K x

Kristian - read your link again.......no-one died in the Boscastle flood (2004). 34 people died in the Lynmouth flood (1952). Just wanted to get the facts correct.

Redrobbo

sccsux
20-03-2005, 15:54
Originally posted by Kristian
That's not what it says on the link!

Doesn't say anything about any deaths:confused:

Kristian
20-03-2005, 16:07
:blush: I read too far down the page into a story about a previous flood in Lynmouth! Sorry guys, I'll get off my soapbox now! :D

K x

Unregistered
20-03-2005, 16:50
Originally posted by feargal
There seems to be a bit of a flood in Hillsborough - Holme Lane, Rivelin Valley Road area.

Can any of our borough correspondents tell me what's going on please?


Yes - it all happened in 1864. Click Here (http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/flood.html)

lalaland
20-03-2005, 18:31
I think to be honest that as this is a local forum, for local people (:D ) and this is a local event it was posted and we all took interest.

What on earth is wrong with that?

The forum is here to discuss events such as this, plus more, and it was a thread that gathered a lot of interest.

Well done everyone that contributed information etc. and please do so again the next time we have an incident like this.

And if you don't think it's a major incident, just try telling that to the contractors who were carrying out the work, I am sure they feel a little differently.

Bruce_Shark
20-03-2005, 18:54
Originally posted by lalaland
And if you don't think it's a major incident, just try telling that to the contractors who were carrying out the work, I am sure they feel a little differently.
Who do these "Values" belong to:

"We put safety at the top of every agenda
Good communications is important in everything we do
We are focused on providing a high quality service
We enjoy an excellent team spirit
We adopt a caring approach towards people and our environment
We take pride in what we do
Our relationships are based on trust and integrity"

No it's not SY Police, Ambulance Service, or Fire and Rescue Service, it's…

…Barhale,

and the highlights in the text are all theirs, if you want to read it for yourself, it's on a board near their compound (close to Towshure), just round the corner from you know what.

lalaland
20-03-2005, 19:12
Originally posted by Unregistered
Yes - it all happened in 1864. Click Here (http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/flood.html) We did a whole load of lessons on this way back at junior school and I didn't put the two together! Woops... (well it was many years back)

If you go to the Hillsborough Barracks and look by the trolleys in front of the main doors to Morrisons you will see a marker showing the height of this flood. Quite high.

Considering the amount of class time and work I did on this and the fact that I forgot about it, I think it's a fair description on that site claiming it to be an almost forgotten disaster compared to its scale.

Thanks for posting that, nice to read up on it again.

Unregistered
21-03-2005, 15:10
Originally posted by lalaland



Thanks for posting that, nice to read up on it again.


You're very welcome - I love local history but I was very disappointed to discover that my ancestors were ''damn foreigners'' living in Bedfordshire at the time of the Great Sheffield Flood !

God only knows how and why they moved to Sheffield of all places, soon after the flood. Their reason is the only piece of my family history jigsaw that is missing and I can only assume that they moved to Sheffield for work.

Kristian
21-03-2005, 15:14
Originally posted by Unregistered
You're very welcome - I love local history but I was very disappointed to discover that my ancestors were ''damn foreigners'' living in Bedfordshire at the time of the Great Sheffield Flood !

God only knows how and why they moved to Sheffield of all places, soon after the flood. Their reason is the only piece of my family history jigsaw that is missing and I can only assume that they moved to Sheffield for work.

Not for Meadowhall or the good motorway links then? :D

K x

Unregistered
21-03-2005, 16:40
Originally posted by Kristian
Not for Meadowhall or the good motorway links then? :D

K x


In a funny sort of way you are probably spot on . . . :D


First they were farm workers and then steel workers. Back then the motorway was farmland and Meadowhall was the heartland of Sheffield Steel !

Actually, their first recorded move was to Scraith Wood Cottages on Herries Road and they farmed part of Parson Cross, near what is now the Forty Foot Pub.

Soon afterwards they moved a short distance to Factory Lane, just below Wadsley Bridge Station. (I wish I could find the exact location of that particular Factory Lane - it's clearly mentioned on census records of the time but even Sheffield Archives can't exactly pinpoint it)

They then worked in Steelworks on Clay Wheels Lane, as the industry first powered by the River Don expanded and gave way to steam.

I've often wondered how the Great Flood must have affected the low lying part of Owlerton around Leppings Lane / Herries Road South, the Five Arches and where the Wednesday ground was later built, but that area doesn't appear to get a mention in records of the time. More mention is made of the area from Bradfield Road to The Wicker.

Surely the River Don must have been backing up as it entered Sheffield from Middlewood, whilst the waters from the Loxley Valley cascaded down Bradfield Road.

nick2
22-03-2005, 08:15
Originally posted by Unregistered
You're very welcome - I love local history but I was very disappointed to discover that my ancestors were ''damn foreigners'' living in Bedfordshire at the time of the Great Sheffield Flood !


Your disapointed ?

I recent found out that my great-great-grandfather was from, (I can't bring myself to say it, the shame), LONDON.

This "tainted blood" might explain why my Yorkshire puddings don't rise sometimes, my nan says only a true Yorkshireman can make Yorkshire puddings that rise every time, without even measuring the ingredients.

Unregistered
22-03-2005, 10:37
Originally posted by nick2


I recent found out that my great-great-grandfather was from, (I can't bring myself to say it, the shame), LONDON.


I know where you're coming from :D


Until I knew better, I just assumed that our family had been born and bred in Sheffield for generations. I suppose if you go back long enough, most Sheffielders will have some dubious ''foreign'' background !

It reminds me of an old school mate who surprised everyone when he and his wife and two very young kids went to start a new life in Australia, several years ago. They came back to visit recently, they've done very well for themselves and the kids are now Australian to the core! They even try to avoid telling their friends that they have a Made in Sheffield birth tag!

The kids ''couldn't bear to live in a dump like Sheffield'' and they can't understand why their parents often rave about ''the good old times'' back here.

Their parents may rave about the good old times in Sheffield, as I often do myself, but nevertheless, they ''wouldn't move back to Sheffield for all the tea in China!''

It makes me wonder if I have backed the wrong horse and missed the boat sometimes - by sticking it out here and being a proud Yorkshire person! Many people seem to have done much better by moving away. Oh well :(

Anyway, before some picky do gooder tells me that I've gone off topic - my mate said that they have floods in Aussie too.