Tried a search in this but nothing came up. Can anyone tell me if there are any places that teach either, White Crane or Monk Fist Boxing? The nearer Norton the better, with times and fees, please.

Lethal Latif runs a chinese kcickboxing class down at the clocktower in firth park.

http://www.sheffieldmartialarts.co.uk/

never tried it out but its supposed to be good fun.

I think he also does classes on Lane Top

Lethal Latif runs a chinese kcickboxing class down at the clocktower in firth park.

http://www.sheffieldmartialarts.co.uk/

never tried it out but its supposed to be good fun.

I think he also does classes on Lane Top

Yep thats right just seen his web site he's been british and european kickboxing champion 5 or 6 times and came 3rd in the world championships, at last a real Kickboxer that knows his stuff ive trained with him ( i dnt know his background until i looked at the web site) and he is good and its fun as well.

Sorry there is no White Crane or Monk Fist Boxing in sheffield sorry
I do 7 star mantis with a direct lineage.

There is very little traditional Chinese arts in the sheffield area apart from me I only know of one other Chinese art. Apart from that there is only Wing Chun and Taiji. Why are you looking for that style ?

Lethal Latif might be good at kickboxing i dont know but from what iv been told its not chinese kcickboxing (sanda or sanshou) ??

Looking at the link and looking at the video , i have come to the conclusion that it is a totally different style of kickboxing to what AFK does or to what Black Dragons or many of the other kickboxing gyms round the country do.

I saw some of the combinations , backfist on both pads, left backfist - right backfist -double roundhouse kick (off the same leg without putting the leg down).

Some nice looking jump spinning heel kicks there too.

Ive met latif through the mosque and he seems like a sound guy (i dont say that about everyone so if i say that someone seems ok then they are ok!).
I liked the bit where the kids are saying that Latif teaches them about the world around them.
Great stuff! Im all for multiculturalism too (being of mixed ethnic parentage myself).
The kids were aware of the benefits of discipline , good health and general awareness as well as social skills.
Now there are 2 sides to martial arts especially where kids are concerned.
Part of it is the physical side , the other part is the social/mental,..etc side.

Now ill put an example down: A lot of the people have been slagging off Castle BBA for whatever reason but i have seen first hand that when it comes to "interpersonal skills" and Relating to children ,... etc
Castle Black belt have it to an art form.

So does the "soldier of Firvale" by the sounds of things.

Got the link to work ;-) He might be a nice guy and good at what he is doing also good with the people he trains but sorry its not Chinese kickboxing.

This is Chinese kickboxing
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5605244156516394293&q=sanda&total=3088&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

Sorry there is no White Crane or Monk Fist Boxing in sheffield sorry
I do 7 star mantis with a direct lineage.

There is very little traditional Chinese arts in the sheffield area apart from me I only know of one other Chinese art. Apart from that there is only Wing Chun and Taiji. Why are you looking for that style ?

Hi Davemantis,
Because Goju Ryu Karate has a direct lineage to those schools, and I'd liked to have done a bit of cross training to see how Karate evolved from these schools.:)

There are some similarities but also some big differences.
The breathing is a little different to
Try www.namyang.co.uk

Just to let everyone know Cung Le the world sanshou / sanda / Chinese Kickboxing champion is now a world MMA champion after beating shamrock the year ;-)

Part of Cung le’s interview
Sanshou in MMA
"Sanshou is the perfect stand-up art for MMA because it has all the elements – the punching, the kicking, the wrestling. It has all the elements that you need for the stand-up game for MMA. The only missing element is the ground stuff – the jiu-jitsu and the ground and pound. I think sanshou is effective because when you throw someone, you get more points in sanshou when you stay standing. If you go down with them, you're at more of a threat to be submitted. In sanshou, you stay standing and that limits your chance of being submitted. When you take someone down in MMA, they got guillotines, they can transition to arm bars, they can roll for your leg.
"I think for me as a fighter, what I bring to the MMA cage of the ring is more exciting because I keep things going, instead of going down where there's more of a stalemate. So if I throw someone down, people get to enjoy the throw and the action doesn't stop because someone's working the guard or working trying to get position. That guy gets to get up and exchange again. Now if there's a scramble, like I had against Frank, and I'm able to scramble out of danger, that's more exciting than being in someone's guard and looking to pass his guard. There's some elements of excitement when there's ground and pound. When you get a good punch on the ground, the guy gets rocked and you get position. You're punching him and you transition into submission. But you see that a lot. What I feel you don't see a lot is you take one down with a high altitude throw, and you walk away and you let them come back. That was my game plan. I said I was going to sanshou Frank. And I did.
"Frank is one of those guys who likes to get in your head before the fight. During the weigh-ins, every chance he gets he's going to try to get in your head and that's what he tried to do to me. So basically, he got taken down, so instead of being embarrassed and getting back up, he neutralized it. People were like, ‘Ohh, look how Frank's inviting Cung in!' People almost forgot. How did he get down on the ground? It was a sanshou takedown. I caught his kick. I swept out his leg. He fell down. He invited me in and I said ‘no thank you.'
"What I feel is, there's a lot of guys that are a lot smoother and a lot more fun to watch on the ground than I am. So those are the guys that you go to watch them perform and do their stuff on the ground. Now people, they get a little different element of that when they come watch me fight. My ground game is getting better. But I feel like I'm not like a Jake Shields or someone like B. J. Penn. And I'm not trying to be like them. I'm trying to make my mark as Cung Le, the kung fu sanshou fighter, transitioning into MMA. It's who I am and it's where I came from. I'm sticking to my roots and I'm evolving with this whole sport – a new explosion of mixed martial arts."


Highlights of some of his fight are at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqlB5aMY40&feature=related

for more info on chinese kickboxing and sanda feel freeto contact me

Fantastic clip Dave

I,ve been training with some guys in sheffield doing Lau Gar kung fu, started the kung fu class a few months ago and then started kickboxing with them, ive seen the higher grades doing the take downs and sweeps so i asked the instructor what they were doing and if i could learn some, he told me it was sanda (chinese kickboxing) and that the majority of people just wanted American kickboxing, so they could compete in competition, but the take downs and sweeps were part of the advanced syllabus, since then ive done some private lessons with him and i must confess the techniques for take downs and sweeping are amazing!!
Ive done some grappaling and BJJ but this stuff was totaly diffrent i hope to continue but may have to leave Sheffield in a few months due to work.

what nights are your classes i might try to get along

thanks

S

Forgot to mention i live on city Rd so how far is your club / whats the address.
thanks

i would not get foold by the private classe to do sanda, the sanda stuff is not advanced as they put it. You should start from day one with the take downs.
lau gar tend to focus on the point and what you called American kickboxing. (im not saying they are not good at what they do)
but you never see them at the (british council for chinese martial arts) Sanda championships or any other traditional kung fu comps in the uk.
my classes are on a tuesday thursday and sunday.

sounds viscious!!

i would not get foold by the private classe to do sanda, the sanda stuff is not advanced as they put it. You should start from day one with the take downs.
lau gar tend to focus on the point and what you called American kickboxing. (im not saying they are not good at what they do)
but you never see them at the (british council for chinese martial arts) Sanda championships or any other traditional kung fu comps in the uk.
my classes are on a tuesday thursday and sunday.

Very good point Mr Mantis.
If they dont compete in sanda/sanshou and they are a competing club anyway then chances are they are not actually any good at sanda. Either that or they dont really teach authentic sanda.

dont know about the club in sheffield but like i say Lau Gar do not compeat in sanda in the uk
thats not to say they cant just never seen them ;-)

Thanks for the advice dave
ive looked at the main laugar web site BKFA and they mention sanda on there, not sure about them competing in traditional competition but i know they fight full contact american kickboxing, but like my instructor says theres no point teaching takedowns to the full contact guys as thats not the rules they fight by, and the few that do the takedowns are the more advanced students just the way there syllabus works.
But i might try to get to one of your sunday classes.

my instructor says theres no point teaching takedowns to the full contact guys as thats not the rules they fight by

well thats your answer then lol rules they fight so they dont do sanda lol

No what i meant was they dont teach sanda to the majority of students because they just want american kickboxing especially the ones that fight in competition ( they dont need take downs and throws) your right they do points fighting as well as full contact (American) but the higher grades learn the take downs, sweeps etc the chinese kickboxing (sanda).
I asked him about the sanda competitions and he said just because we don't compete doesn't mean we don't know or teach it once students had become proficient at full contact we introduce them to the chinese kickboxing, after all I dont race cars but i can still drive LOL

well thats your answer then lol so they dont do sanda lol

Fraudulence is prevalence in martial arts im afraid mr mantis.
Everyone these days is jumping on bandwagons.
Someone saying they teach Sanda , when all they do is teach what they call kickboxing (freestyle karate or whatever) then add some throws and market it as authentic chinese sanda
:hihi:

after all I dont race cars but i can still drive LOL



Exactly you drive; you don’t race cars lol to completely different things
Just because someone says they teach sanda to higher students don’t mean they do sanda just because they put 1 or 2 take downs, sweeps into what they do.
That would be like me doing one or 2 lau gar forms and then saying I teach lau gar, or someone doing freestyle karate and saying they do kickboxing, or doing a little ground work and saying they do MMA.

You get my point ?

Im not trying to say they are no good and cant fight I have a lot of respect for ther but sanda MMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

How would you recognise a PROPER sanda instructor then?

Ive watched some videos on youtube and it seems to be 2 competitors padded up kickboxing with leg sweeps, catches, throws take downs, is there a grading syllabus to sanda or is it a sport how can the layman know that the person he trains with is teaching authentic sanda, how would you training differ from a kick boxer doing all of the leg catches throws etc.
If the club i train with entered a sanda competition would that give them more credibility?

That was a great fight (Le vs Shamrock). Apparently Le broke Shamrock's arm with one of his last kicks before the TKO (you can see it happen - shamrock still throws a heavy punch with it afterwards, owch!).

I like Le's style, I'd love to learn some. Might try a couple of those moves in training and see if I can figure out the dynamics.

That was a great fight (Le vs Shamrock). Apparently Le broke Shamrock's arm with one of his last kicks before the TKO (you can see it happen - shamrock still throws a heavy punch with it afterwards, owch!).

I like Le's style, I'd love to learn some. Might try a couple of those moves in training and see if I can figure out the dynamics.

Yes i bet that hurt,

I asked my instructor who taught him and he told me he remembers doing these techniques in the late 70s early 80s, with his instructor who taught on London Rd (hes since passed away)
He told me that there's nothing mystical about sanda its just the competition / sport aspect of Kung Fu / wushu
so you should be able to work out the take downs and sweeps cray fish.
Let me know how you get on with the sanda moves (catching the leg and sweeping etc),

Yes, many of them are based on similar concepts to throws I've been taught in MMA, BJJ and Judo. Should be able to figure them out. The flying leg scissors looks fun :-)

I've been studying Randy Couture and Karo Parisyan as well, trying to kind of synthesise myself a takedown repertoire as it's something I feel I've neglected so far. If I find time, anyway...

sanda is the sport side but without knowing the rules its like a kickboxer fighting a karate lad at poinds it will work but its toe one that knows the ruels that will win lol

i did a course on sanda and Qinda
so i can judge

How would you recognise a PROPER sanda ?
Hop this helps tell the difference from the ring arts
They are completely different.


SANDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcnT3Mx-ZTU

KICKBOXING (Benny the Jet)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymaoqip_vn0

LAU GAR KICKBOXING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrchISpcxI

THAI BOXING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXZJVGWeEVs

By the way I im in talks about getting Benny the Jet over to the Sheffield area ;-)

Dave im not being funny but that 3rd video "Lau gar kickboxing" or whatever else you call it was bloody boring!
I would not personally call that by the name kickboxing but it made me feel ill just watching it.
:gag:

No disrespect if thats what people enjoy but no thank you!

lol i just put up what i found on youtube :D
dont know if thats good or bad :suspect:

but i olnly pyut them up so ther can see what the sanda looks like say to lau gar

Dave im not being funny but that 3rd video "Lau gar kickboxing" or whatever else you call it was bloody boring!
I would not personally call that by the name kickboxing but it made me feel ill just watching it.
:gag:

No disrespect if thats what people enjoy but no thank you!

Your right but watching 2 novice fighters at most disciplins is boring, and you are right dave there is a diffrence to the semi contact points sparring (which is what the you tube clip is of) and the kickboxing or sanda and yes ive seen all three disciplins at the lau gar club where i train, (they dont do thai) :thumbsup:so im pretty confident that ive seen my instructor teaching SANDA
But its not good when two 'instructors' such as youself and your 'side kick'lol chefkicker try to insult other martial arts.What happened to martial arts teaching respect,
Why put on 3 video clips which show professional fighters and which are professionaly shot then find a clip of two novice fighters which you say are lau gar ? im sure if i had a time to waste looking through you tube i could find as equally boring sanda or kickboxing fights!:huh:

Why is it so hard to accept that other people know or teach sanda,
The lau gar club i train at does:
1 semi contact points fighting,
2 continuous sparring
3 full contact kickboxing
4 chinese kickboxing (Sanda)
5 Chi sau ( not sure what that involves)
6 chi na (or this)


My instructor says 'You dont have to compete in competition to be able to teach a fighting system'

By the way dave you never answered the rest of my earlyer questions ?

Just a quick one for chefciker have you ever tried the points fighting i know from previous posts you call it slipy slappy but would you get on the matt with a good fighter or not. ( im not saying its the best as i dont have enough experiance )

Ive been training in various MA for about a year now and would never dream of saying one fighting system is rubbish or boring unless i was speaking from experiance and even then it could be that ive trained at a bad club.

what i put was

Im not trying to say they are no good and cant fight I have a lot of respect for ther but sanda MMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

never put that it was no good or anything ?????????
but talk to any lau gar Instructor and they would agree that lau gar is a pail comparison to what it was
Sifu Lau did a lot to promote lau gar in the UK but he also did it a lot of harm for the art also.
From my experience Lau gar has also got stuff added to it to change it fr4om what it was
And that comes from one of sifu lau’s own cousins in Hong Kong.

i just put in lau gar and that was the 1st fighting clip i got.

How would you recognise a PROPER sanda instructor then?
the samy as you would tell if someone is a proper Lau Gar instructor or any other art instructor.

By the way dave you never answered the rest of my earlyer questions ?

Just a quick one for chefciker have you ever tried the points fighting i know from previous posts you call it slipy slappy but would you get on the matt with a good fighter or not. ( im not saying its the best as i dont have enough experiance )

Ive been training in various MA for about a year now and would never dream of saying one fighting system is rubbish or boring unless i was speaking from experiance and even then it could be that ive trained at a bad club.

First of all dont EVER EVER mention the word respect to me. You dont know the meaning of the word and you are probably not taught it at your club anyway. :rant:
At my shows there have only been 3 incidents where people have had to be thrown out for using abusive language or general drunken beahviour. Two out of the Three were lau gar members.
We had to refuse entry to 5 people of which 2 of them were known to train at sheffield lau gar for trying to push past security :confused:

Members of lau gar were Booing my fighters at the February show (where all my fighters won bar one ). They were also shouting stupid comments at my fighters and have also shouted disrespectful comments when Yousif (aged 15 at the time) fought in november!!!

I am always respectful when i meet other martial artists regardless of what they do. I am also VERY outspoken. If i think someone is doing what they shouldnt be or is teaching techniques incorrectly i will speak out.
I always speak out against corruption in "kickboxing" in sheffield of which there is a lot. However i am NEVER disrespectful and always conduct myself properly in public. NONE of my members will ever bring the sport into disrepute with hooligan like behaviour. That is a guarantee.

Oh by the way points fighting is NOT kickboxing. Its freestyle karate. If thats what people want to do then let them do it. Just dont call it kickboxing.

Dave im not being funny but that 3rd video "Lau gar kickboxing" or whatever else you call it was bloody boring!
I would not personally call that by the name kickboxing but it made me feel ill just watching it.
:gag:

No disrespect if thats what people enjoy but no thank you!

This very post is distrespectfull and patronising, and every one on the forum Which is a public place can see it, if you could direct me to find a post where I call your style 'bloody boring, and makes you feel ill watching it' then please do.

Ive done a little research on the net and there are alot of clubs and associations Wka, wako, iska which i think are the most popular kickboxing associations all recognise points fighting as kickboxing, whether you like it or not, it seems that there are many kinds of kickboxing and points fighting is just another style of kickboxing.

Any way this thread has been hijacked enough with your insults and is really about Chinese boxing, so why dont you go and play on another thread for a while and leave this one to people that know or train in
:thumbsup:CHINESE KICKBOXING:thumbsup:

Sorry about that Dave but back to our initial discussion:

I dont know too much about the history of Lau Gar so cant comment, but would still like to come (if im alowed) when i have the time to train with you ta one of your classes.

superstar1 I welcome anyone no mater the art they do to come to train or chat even if its just 1 or 2 classes to see what traditional kung fu its bout.

superstar1 I welcome anyone no mater the art they do to come to train or chat even if its just 1 or 2 classes to see what traditional kung fu its bout.

Thanks Dave as soon as i get some free time i would like to come along and try something diffrent, ive done a few things like Bjj, mmA, Lau Gar kung fu, American style kickboxing, all within about a year, ive stayed with the kung fu the longest so would like to try some other style (perhaps i havnt stayed long enough at anything a bit of a jack of all trades):hihi:

jack of all trades is ok for a year or so but you will be better staying with one in the end

Ive been talking to my instructor about our discussion and he has asked me to clarify that in the class he does not teach sanda but only American or full contact kickboxing however once students get to a certain level they are introduced into the sanda (leg catches, take downs and sweeps etc) so if some one wanted sanda from day one then they would need to train with a sanda school but if they wanted kickboxing with sanda techniques put in at a later stage then he can accomodate.

glad thats sorted.

Ive been talking to my instructor about our discussion and he has asked me to clarify that in the class he does not teach sanda but only American or full contact kickboxing however once students get to a certain level they are introduced into the sanda (leg catches, take downs and sweeps etc) so if some one wanted sanda from day one then they would need to train with a sanda school but if they wanted kickboxing with sanda techniques put in at a later stage then he can accomodate.

glad thats sorted.

If anyone wants to train Sanda, start off by finding a GOOD instructor, one that understands PROPER kickboxing as well as Takedowns,etc.
What would work well would be to train in PROPER kickboxing (or muay thai)
When i say proper i dont mean the shiny pants flicky kicking tippy tappy stuff, well i dont expect someone with limited intelligence to understand what i mean.
For the takedowns you could always train at an MMA club or do a bit of BJJ or normal ju jitsu/wrestling etc.

How many sheffield fighters have competed in SANDA/Sanshou?
Enlighten me :hihi:

Why do the kickboxing threads always end up this way?

If anyone wants to train Sanda, start off by finding a GOOD instructor, one that understands PROPER kickboxing as well as Takedowns,etc.
What would work well would be to train in PROPER kickboxing (or muay thai)
When i say proper i dont mean the shiny pants flicky kicking tippy tappy stuff, well i dont expect someone with limited intelligence to understand what i mean.
For the takedowns you could always train at an MMA club or do a bit of BJJ or normal ju jitsu/wrestling etc.

How many sheffield fighters have competed in SANDA/Sanshou?
Enlighten me :hihi:

The trouble is jebb some 'kickboxing people' just love to cause trouble and bad feeling between diffrent clubs

I dont know what they get out of it, must be some kind of buzz for them.

i dont even know what this bloke chefkiker has to do with sanda unless he teaches it as well, i mean theres dave who teaches sanda then we have chefkiker saying just go to a kickboxing club then learn the takedowns from a mma club:huh: whats all that about

Im not going to get involved with key board warriors, its a little childish,

But dave if the offer is still there when i get the time i will hopefully come and train with you.:thumbsup:

The trouble is jebb some 'kickboxing people' just love to cause trouble and bad feeling between diffrent clubs

I dont know what they get out of it, must be some kind of buzz for them.

i dont even know what this bloke chefkiker has to do with sanda unless he teaches it as well, i mean theres dave who teaches sanda then we have chefkiker saying just go to a kickboxing club then learn the takedowns from a mma club:huh: whats all that about

Im not going to get involved with key board warriors, its a little childish,

But dave if the offer is still there when i get the time i will hopefully come and train with you.:thumbsup:

Keyboard Warrior? I have achieved more in kickboxing than your whole club probably has all put together. Actually our junior fighter has had more ringtime than your whole fight squad so dont even go there.


The real keyboard warrior is you.

You come on here trolling and pretending to ask questions. When you get the answers you dont want you spit the dummy.
Bottom line is Lau gar is NOT chinese kickboxing so dont even try that fradulent rubbish.
Answer MY question! Who from sheffield has entered a sanda match. I can answer this question at least once.

Why do the kickboxing threads always end up this way?

It always seems to be the same person jebb:loopy:

What lau gar has to do with him i dont know :huh:

or what his problem is, :rant:

but he has a right bee in his bonnet, how would some one know what a style is unless they 've trained in it :confused: (from what ive see lau gar is alot of things.)

He just seems to embarres himself with every post.

The more he abuses diffrent styles, the more people can see what he is realy like,

If you look through this thread it was a discussion about chinese boxing untill chefkiker put his nose in then it just become abusive,

No one has mentioned your club chefkiker so why do you try to discredit lau gar, have you heard the saying 'what goes around comes around'

If some one has a problem the mature thing would be to take it up with the instructors not throw insults around on here, lau gar this , lau gar that, my dads bigger than your dad what kind of behaviour is that for a so called instructor of a club.

I said before im not getting drawn in to childish insults so as far as im concerned this is the last post i will make on this thread,

once again it has been spoiled by immature childish people believing that they are the best,

You realy need to give it a rest and grow up !!!!!!!

It always seems to be the same person jebb:loopy:

What lau gar has to do with him i dont know :huh:

or what his problem is, :rant:

but he has a right bee in his bonnet, how would some one know what a style is unless they 've trained in it :confused: (from what ive see lau gar is alot of things.)

He just seems to embarres himself with every post.

The more he abuses diffrent styles, the more people can see what he is realy like,

If you look through this thread it was a discussion about chinese boxing untill chefkiker put his nose in then it just become abusive,

No one has mentioned your club chefkiker so why do you try to discredit lau gar, have you heard the saying 'what goes around comes around'

If some one has a problem the mature thing would be to take it up with the instructors not throw insults around on here, lau gar this , lau gar that, my dads bigger than your dad what kind of behaviour is that for a so called instructor of a club.

I said before im not getting drawn in to childish insults so as far as im concerned this is the last post i will make on this thread,

once again it has been spoiled by immature childish people believing that they are the best,

You realy need to give it a rest and grow up !!!!!!!

whateva!!! who discredited who? are you on drugs or sumthing ? no one said we are bigger and better well we are but who cares ;) Who does chinese kickboxing and who fights in it? Who has had a fight in it can u please answer Mr farhads question?

The best thing about these kick boxing threads is that they always decend into bickering, and nasty insults. Great entertainment when bored at work

Then of course, a wind up merchant pops up and sets the cat among the pigeons with a wind up thread/post.


One more thing, carefull of how you word things



[QUOTE=chefkicker;3773287] Actually our junior fighter has had more ringtime than your whole fight squad QUOTE]

Who from sheffield has entered a sanda match. I can answer this question at least once.

I Have but would not do it again lol well not at the time i did :( (it hurt lol)
maybe if i was back in my 20s and the sport is as it is now :hihi:

To me sanda is more than just kickboxing with take downs
You could do it that way but that would be like someone that lets say trains in an art that kick and punch and they call it kickboxing.
Some competitions (not all) will ask you to perform a form in the kung fu art you do before you are allowed to enter.
But there are some that are open to all arts.

If you go to the British Council for Chinese Martial Arts website www.bccma.com you can down load the rules.

Within the BCCMA I was the only person from the area that attended the judging course for QinDa and Sanda and I have only ever had 1 sanda fight in my life (but I have had other fights) but that was back in the time when the rues allowed you to (well lets just say twist the rules to damage your opponent) and was fought on a traditional Lei tai platform. (kind of a boxing ring with no ropes)

Now allot of the sanda fights are on a matted floor or in a boxing ring.

Is lau gar Chinese boxing ????????
Well in my opinion
yes but the art has moved more towards the semi contact and the American kickboxing side and moved away from what the art once was but that’s not to say they are no good.
A lot of top fighters in the UK have come from Lau Gar and have had top kickboxing fighters.

To me sanda is more than just kickboxing with take downs
You could do it that way but that would be like someone that lets say trains in an art that kick and punch and they call it kickboxing.
Some competitions (not all) will ask you to perform a form in the kung fu art you do before you are allowed to enter.
But there are some that are open to all arts.

If you go to the British Council for Chinese Martial Arts website www.bccma.com you can down load the rules.

Within the BCCMA I was the only person from the area that attended the judging course for QinDa and Sanda and I have only ever had 1 sanda fight in my life (but I have had other fights) but that was back in the time when the rues allowed you to (well lets just say twist the rules to damage your opponent) and was fought on a traditional Lei tai platform. (kind of a boxing ring with no ropes)

Now allot of the sanda fights are on a matted floor or in a boxing ring.

Is lau gar Chinese boxing ????????
Well in my opinion
yes but the art has moved more towards the semi contact and the American kickboxing side and moved away from what the art once was but that’s not to say they are no good.
A lot of top fighters in the UK have come from Lau Gar and have had top kickboxing fighters.

That answers superstar1's query. They dont teach Sanda at sheffield laugar.
There question answered :D

That answers superstar1's query. They dont teach Sanda at sheffield laugar.
There question answered :D

I know i said that i wouldnt post again but i just couldnt resist this guys such a spanner :loopy:

Go on then i know it makes you feel better you can have the last word chefkiker or this pointless ranting will never end :hihi:
(never knew that you know more about this style than the people that teach it:hihi:)

Thats it now im off :thumbsup: