Sheffield VS Rotherham [Archive]

SlimboyFat

03-10-2004, 16:18

Originally posted by Snakey_B
Manchester has bolton ,stockport bury oldham ect and thats called greater manchester.
Sheffield has rotherham so were now know was Greater sheffield , we own you bitches ;)

Manchester is a region as well as a city. So yes you do get Bolton in Manchester, Manchester in Manchester etc.

Sheffield is a City in South Yorkshire
Rotherham is a Town in South Yorkshire
Sheffield does not "own" Rotherham.

ps. 50 years ago you may have had a point about "Great"er Sheffield, but not now.

Don't think I am knocking Sheffield. Some good things have come out of Sheffield (and I'm not just talking about the 69 bus:) ). I just take offence to the few Sheffielders who think they "own" Rotherham or they are better as they have a Uni and a Catherdral.

saxon51

03-10-2004, 16:22

I love Rotherham SlimboyFat, I love Rotherham!!

PARAPA

03-10-2004, 17:09

Originally posted by ole1
I think its wrong to be so nasty to our neighbours.

Rotherham as its good points.... i'll think of one and get back to ya on it.

One of the best is the fact that it isn't actually part of Sheffield ;)

:thumbsup:

capnlongdong

03-10-2004, 17:19

I remember a story i was once told by my grandaddy

Back in the earlii 20th century there was outcry when the rail links between sheffield and rotherham we're being built.

This was because we didn't want "sheffield scum in our fair quiet town"

Something about gang warfare and the like....

capnlongdong

03-10-2004, 17:21

:nod:

I'm just gonna sit back and bask inthe warm glow of Rotherham, where the sun always shines

ole1

03-10-2004, 17:56

Originally posted by ole1
I think its wrong to be so nasty to our neighbours.

Rotherham as its good points.... i'll think of one and get back to ya on it.

erm, ok stay in sheffield.

John_66

03-10-2004, 18:22

Here are a few things Sheffield has that thankfully Rotherham doesn,t have:-
Red light area
Regular shootings
The Wicker
Attercliffe
Manor
Neil Warnock
S.W.F.C (there must be little else to do if 20,000 plus still turn out to watch an average league 1 team)

Thank god I live in Rotherham !

ole1

03-10-2004, 18:28

See! Sheffield does have more going for it.

sccsux

03-10-2004, 18:51

Originally posted by Rich
Meh, Rotherham lays claim to Meadowhall... Eeven though it's borderline Sheffield/Rotherham... WTF?! :loopy:

Let 'em have the cr4p hole!

saxon51

03-10-2004, 18:57

Whoa! Stop and think people. If we give Meadowhall to Rotherham then they'll have something legitimate to moan about and we'll feel guilty and they'll blame us and hold it against us and............oh, bo££ox, let 'em have it!!

:wave:

sccsux

03-10-2004, 19:04

Originally posted by SlimboyFat
The only thing that connects Rotherham to Sheffield is we are having to help pay for your Tram !!!!

Which, I for one, never wanted, nor will ever use!

Originally posted by SlimboyFat
And while I'm in moan mode how come Rotherhams Manga Centre (Check your maps) has suddenly become Sheffields now that its doing well but you never mention the Pop Music place....

'cause the Music Thing in Sheffield was garbage and has (I think) changed into some other garbage, and the Manga Centre is pretty cool (and is on Sheffield Road)?? ;-)

Captain_Scarlet

03-10-2004, 19:09

Originally posted by Rich
Meh, Rotherham lays claim to Meadowhall... Eeven though it's borderline Sheffield/Rotherham... WTF?!

The place called Meadowhall is in Rotherham in S61 (Roth Cent'l is S65 & S60 it is up the hill from exit 34 north between Hill Top, Richmond Pk and Kimberworth, Meadowhall the shopping centre is in Sheffield, but it's in both Wincobank and Brightside in S9.
That's why Meadowhall starts from Brightside Bridge but goes all the way to Kimberworth, at the junction with High St and Church St. Also it is in Kimberworth that Meadowhall Junior School is.

t020

03-10-2004, 19:15

Rotherham is a dive. The only supposed good area is Moorgate, but Moorgate is ugly and, because Rotherham is so small, still near to all the other hellhole areas. And what about all the pylons?

Reasons why Sheffield is better than Rotherham:
- Sheffield is green and leafy, on the edge of a national park
- Rotherham has at least 2 pylons to every 1 resident
- Sheffield has 2 large universities, top private schools, and some of the best performing state schools in England
- Sheffield has some of the most affluent areas in the country, Rotherham some of the most deprived
- Rotherham town centre is a ghost town, with shops closing down all the time
- Rotherham looks like 1 big factory, with chimney after chimney and works after works

The only plus that Rotherham has is that the Rotherham council seem to take better care of the roads than Sheffield council does.

saxon51

03-10-2004, 19:17

You forgot the Chuckle Brothers t020!!

dj_monged

03-10-2004, 20:04

Well, this is kind of dumb, but totally true...

Anyone remember that thing where everywhere from Tesco's to the butcher down the road was selling rotten chicken that was supposed to be sent to pet food factories? There was this thing going on in Rotherham where a company was buying meat in SKIPS and employing people to cut off the nasty bits, bleach it and put it in little polystyrene trays. Straight up guvnor, it was on the telly and everything.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1082208.stm

And what about that other national crime, Clarkson?

saxon51

03-10-2004, 20:14

I remember the tainted chicken programme. Put me off chicken for hours! Clarkson though? He admires my hero Brunel so he's a good person.

SlimboyFat

04-10-2004, 23:00

Originally posted by dj_monged
Well, this is kind of dumb, but totally true...

Anyone remember that thing where everywhere from Tesco's to the butcher down the road was selling rotten chicken that was supposed to be sent to pet food factories? There was this thing going on in Rotherham where a company was buying meat in SKIPS and employing people to cut off the nasty bits, bleach it and put it in little polystyrene trays. Straight up guvnor, it was on the telly and everything.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1082208.stm

And what about that other national crime, Clarkson?

Please read the story you have linked to.

This was happening in "Newark-based company Wells By-Products Ltd" and was being sold nationwide including Rotherham and Sheffield.

2 Blokes that pleaded Guilty (and I quote) "They were Arnold Smith, 63, of Sheffield, and John McGinty, 48, of Woodsetts, near Rotherham, South Yorkshire."

ps. If we are talking about Jeremy Clarkson then He is from Doncaster. Rotherham just felt sorry for him and gave hime a job in the Advertiser.

SlimboyFat

04-10-2004, 23:20

Originally posted by t020
Reasons why Sheffield is better than Rotherham:
- Sheffield is green and leafy, on the edge of a national park
Sheffield has a small amount of "Green and Leafy" areas.

- Rotherham has at least 2 pylons to every 1 resident
From where I am, I can just about spot a couple of pylons. Approx about 1 1/2 miles away over some "Green and Leafy" landscape.

- Sheffield has 2 large universities, top private schools, and some of the best performing state schools in England
And Students :) . I will concede that I don't know anything in regards to this statement. Do you have any backup for these claims.

- Sheffield has some of the most affluent areas in the country, Rotherham some of the most deprived
Again I would like to see proof of your claims, but to my untrained eye I would say that both Sheffield and Rotherham have some fairly affluent areas mainly on the outskirts and some quite deprived areas.

- Rotherham town centre is a ghost town, with shops closing down all the time
Both centres have changed with the bigger stores moving from both Sheffield and Rotherham Centres to Meadowhall and to a smaller extent Parkgate. Sheffield has not avoided this, but as Sheffield is bigger to start with it isn't quite as apparent.

- Rotherham looks like 1 big factory, with chimney after chimney and works after works
Again, I would like to ask how you have come to this conclusion. In its past Sheffield was known just as much for its grime as it was it's Steel. Sheffield was built around its steel works. Saying that all the works have closed or moved from Sheffield is not a good point for Sheffield. Rotherham still has a Steel works, admittedly, only just.

The only plus that Rotherham has is that the Rotherham council seem to take better care of the roads than Sheffield council does.
Now this is the one point where you stick up for Rotherham, but have you driven down the Canklow Bypass lately.

t020

04-10-2004, 23:57

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

Sheffield has a small amount of "Green and Leafy" areas.

- Sheffield is the greenest city in England and has several large parks. It is renowned for the amount of trees, and is home to several large, leafy suburbs.

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

From where I am, I can just about spot a couple of pylons. Approx about 1 1/2 miles away over some "Green and Leafy" landscape.

- Rotherham has a major electrical station (at the end of the Parkway) and is surrounded by Pylons because so many parts of Rotherham are fragmented so the electricity has to be carried via pylons.

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

And Students :) . I will concede that I don't know anything in regards to this statement. Do you have any backup for these claims.

What claims? The 2 unis have a joint population of around 45,000, making them 2 of the largest in England. Top private schools include Girls High and Birkdale. Top state schools include Silverdale, which consistently ranks highly in national school league tables and outperforms ANY school in Rotherham. Use www.upmystreet.com for school results comparison between Silverdales postcode and a Rotherham school postcode. I would do a comparison myself, but it would take hours, but name Rotherhams "best" school and I'll gladly compare and contrast accordingly.

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

Again I would like to see proof of your claims, but to my untrained eye I would say that both Sheffield and Rotherham have some fairly affluent areas mainly on the outskirts and some quite deprived areas.

If you want proof of my claims, why not try out one of these links?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/08/14/nshef114.xml

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,774032,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3871857.stm

http://www.newsroom.barclays.co.uk/news/data/950.html

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

Both centres have changed with the bigger stores moving from both Sheffield and Rotherham Centres to Meadowhall and to a smaller extent Parkgate. Sheffield has not avoided this, but as Sheffield is bigger to start with it isn't quite as apparent.

Sheffield city centre may have suffered slightly, but people still go there which isn't the feeling I got from Rotherham town centre. The place is dead and plenty of shops are closing/ relocating. The place is distressing. Sheffield however boasts several major department stores and supermarkets, as well as plenty of expensive wine bars and boutiques (I forgot to mention Ecclesall Road in my last post... what's Rotherhams version of it?!). Sheffield has a Waitrose and several Sainsburys.. does Rotherham? ;)

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

Again, I would like to ask how you have come to this conclusion. In its past Sheffield was known just as much for its grime as it was it's Steel. Sheffield was built around its steel works. Saying that all the works have closed or moved from Sheffield is not a good point for Sheffield. Rotherham still has a Steel works, admittedly, only just.

Sheffield is moving on from it's industrial past, whereas Rotherham resembles and industrial ghost town. Sheffield is also a lot more scenic with several more parks (the only park I'm aware of in Rotherham is Clifton, which was in the Star but only last week as being virtually a no-go area with druggies and gangs). Sheffield is also on the edge of unspoilt countryside (note: not farming fields with pylons running through) and a national park.

Strix

05-10-2004, 00:16

Originally posted by 2and8
Sheffield...

Drive on Parkways and park in driveways..?!!?

...Mad!

A large chunk of that parkway is in rotherham! (Hence the resurfacing stopping at Catcliffe) So does that mean you're mad too?

Strix

05-10-2004, 00:21

Originally posted by sccsux
'cause the Music Thing in Sheffield was garbage and has (I think) changed into some other garbage, and the Manga Centre is pretty cool (and is on Sheffield Road)?? ;-)

Be even better if all of the exhibits worked. up to half of them were duff when I went earlier this year.

Strix

05-10-2004, 00:23

Didn't Rotherham give us Jeremy Clarkson?

And then made up for it with the chucle brothers!

SlimboyFat

05-10-2004, 00:36

t020: You have given plenty of reading matter and I must admit that with the bit I have read so far (I will give it more time tomorrow) I have been (pleasantly) surprised at some of its claims.

From what I have read, here are a few points.

It seems that areas in the west of Sheffield are affluent but to quote the Telegraph "To get there you have to pass through suburb upon suburb of terrace housing and industrialised wastelands". The West area of Sheffield would only constitute quite a small % of Sheffield. You also convieniently forget to metion the less affluent areas.

In regards to Parks, Most areas and villages in Rotherham have them. off the top of my head there are Valley Park (between Brecks and East Herringthorpe), Kimberworth, Whiston.

For Green and Pleasant, Rother Valley is on land covering Rotherham, Sheffield and Derbyshire. But there is also Country Parks at Ulley and Thrybergh. Canklow Woods (don't let the Canklow bit fool you) and these are the ones that I can think of...

As stated, I havent read all your links but you seem to be focusing on the good points of Sheffield and the bad points of Rotherham. I was trying to balance this out.

Rotherham is not as fragmented as you may think. Unlike Sheffield that mainly grew out from the centre, Rotherham did start as many villages but as these expand most of Rotherhams villages are now only separated by Maps and local knowledge. People that do not know Rotherham would just cosider it as 1 town.

Right I'm off to bed. Speak to you soon.

SlimboyFat

05-10-2004, 00:38

Originally posted by Strix
Didn't Rotherham give us Jeremy Clarkson?

As stated in an earlier post. JC comes from Doncaster. Why do we always get lumped with Him. :)

t020

05-10-2004, 00:56

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

The West area of Sheffield would only constitute quite a small % of Sheffield. You also convieniently forget to metion the less affluent areas.

The Sheffield Hallam constituency actually contains 10% of the population of Sheffield (which I think will rise when they change the boundaries for the next election).

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

Rotherham is not as fragmented as you may think. Unlike Sheffield that mainly grew out from the centre, Rotherham did start as many villages but as these expand most of Rotherhams villages are now only separated by Maps and local knowledge. People that do not know Rotherham would just cosider it as 1 town.

But from what I have seen, and on maps, it still is very fragmented. I'll take your word for it regarding the parks but Sheffield is renowned for being a green city and the only park I know of in Rotherham is plagued by druggies.

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

Right I'm off to bed. Speak to you soon.

Ok, night.

Strix

05-10-2004, 01:01

Originally posted by SlimboyFat
As stated in an earlier post. JC comes from Doncaster. Why do we always get lumped with Him. :)

Probably coz he 'took us back to his home town' on one show - 'Rotherham'. Perhaps Doncaster refused permission to film.

SlimboyFat

05-10-2004, 19:33

Originally posted by Strix
Probably coz he 'took us back to his home town' on one show - 'Rotherham'. Perhaps Doncaster refused permission to film.

Just to stop this once and for all....

Jeremy Clarkson's Fact File

Personal Life
Born in Doncaster in 1961 into an affluent middle-class family.

His mother was a magistrate and his father ran a Paddington Bear doll business.

He lives in a manor house in Chipping Norton with his wife and manager Francie and his three daughters.

Did You Know?
He claims to have been expelled from his public school for drinking, smoking and generally making a nuisance of himself.

He was a big fan of Princess Diana and bought a flat opposite her gym to catch glimpses of her.

Clarkson recently backed Isambard Kingdom Brunel in the BBC's search for the Greatest Briton.

He's recenty given up smoking, a cause he had championed for years.

Cool Credentials
At school he was popular with his peers because he smoked in more outrageous places than everyone else, and trekked 17 miles to the nearest girls school, copping off with the best looking girls.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/patrickkielty/guests/jeremyclarkson.shtml

t020

05-10-2004, 21:56

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

Jeremy Clarkson's Fact File

Personal Life
......into an affluent middle-class family.

Definitely not from Rotherham then.

PARAPA

06-10-2004, 12:47

Originally posted by t020
Definitely not from Rotherham then.

Nor Sheffield obviously

t020

06-10-2004, 13:17

Originally posted by PARAPA
Nor Sheffield obviously

:loopy:

PARAPA

09-12-2004, 19:31

Shall we revive this from the dead as i feel the debate still lingers....

saxon51

09-12-2004, 20:18

Nah,....wait till after Saturday 4:45pm, then we can really have a slanging match..........I HOPE!:heyhey:

PARAPA

09-12-2004, 20:26

Roll on Saturday...

Rotherham 4 - 1 Sheff Utd
????

:banana:

:wow:

NJMUK

09-12-2004, 20:28

Look at the league table you silly sausage!

PARAPA

09-12-2004, 20:45

That means nothing...

NJMUK

09-12-2004, 20:54

It won't do when you've gone down. Congratulations though. You've punched well above your weight these last few years, now go say hi to the pigs and baaaarnsley!

beckyaa

10-12-2004, 11:41

Although I'm from Sheffield I like Rotherham. Currently working on regeneration project there.

If people stop thinking of Rotherham as just an offshoot of Sheffield, maybe it will have more of a chance to grow in it's own right.

Meadowhell has had a huge impact on the town centre, but it's still thriving. There are lots of arts, education and theatre community ventures in Rotherham, so don't forget that the success of a place is not just measured on football, parks, nightlife and shops. There is a fantastic sense of community in Rotherham, just because you can't see it from the outside.

But while we are arguing about who has what, Canklow wood is a 5000 year old ancient woodland, and taps were invented in Rotherham.

scottf

10-12-2004, 12:38

I am from rotherham and even i think that sheffield wins!!

Altho beckyaa makes a very good point- there is a good sense of community in rotherham- i am from rotherham (wickersley) and i can name all of the people on my parents street and most of the surrounding streets, you just don't get that in sheffield.

PARAPA

10-12-2004, 17:43

If you're from Rotherham but prefer Sheffield then why don't you move there?! :) ;)

chez26

10-12-2004, 20:20

Could I just bring to everyone's attention that Sheffield United are playing Rotherham tomorrow, in Rotherham. So that will put a spark in this topic!! UP THE BLADES!!!:P

eighty4

11-12-2004, 07:52

I lived in rotheram last year for a few months with a friend, i hated living there i think the people from rotheram who are trying to say rotheram is better than sheffield havnt got a leg to stand on. Belive me i know, and what i cant understand is why people from rotheram who think sheffield is **** but then join a sheffield forum ? Is there no rotheram fourum or something ?

JackDoff

11-12-2004, 07:56

I think it is quite clear - The best thing about Rotherham is the road to SHEFFIELD

chez26

11-12-2004, 10:26

Here here, roll on 5.30!!!

PARAPA

11-12-2004, 19:19

2-2
Says it all really
Can't even beat a small team like Rotherham? ;)

PARAPA

11-12-2004, 19:21

As for Jeremy Clarkson.
AFAIK he is from Conisborough which could be considered Rotherham OR Doncaster.
I reckon its Rotherham but thats just my opinion

NJMUK

11-12-2004, 19:59

Lucky *****! Showed some good fighting spirit in 2nd half but should have been 3-0 prior to that. See you bright and early small town boy!

chez26

12-12-2004, 11:31

We were robbed!! :rant:
These refs make up their own rules!!!:mad:

jim_77

12-12-2004, 19:45

Originally posted by PARAPA
As for Jeremy Clarkson.
AFAIK he is from Conisborough which could be considered Rotherham OR Doncaster.
I reckon its Rotherham but thats just my opinion
Hey, I thought you were defending Rotherham.

Another point, though. Clarkson says he comes from Rotherham on telly, which means he's either had enough pints to forget where he lives, or even Doncaster don't want him.

This post by mr.jimthinks

muddycoffee

12-12-2004, 22:54

Originally posted by slh73
Bring up the subject of music. Sheffield gave us the Human League, ABC, Heaven 17, Pulp, Richard Hawley and numerous others. What did Rotherham give to the world? Jive Bunny. I rest my case.

SAXON. One of the most ridiculous heavy rock bands ever. Lead singer(Biff) was a russ abbot lookalike and bass guy (steve dawson) a bruce grobalaar lookalike. They were a significant band saxon, I saw them myself and have lots of their albums.

Although being sheffield born & Bred. I have had lots of associations with rotherham, having worked in the Backer factory, and playing in a rock band over there in the 1990s In general sheffielders and Rotherhamians? are so similar that they are almost the same people. Rotherham in my experience is a nice friendly town.

When I was a kid we used to take lots of busses to go swimming in the Herringthorpe leisure centre because they had a wave machine. Long Long before (15 years at least) this was available anywhere in sheffield.

they had trains in Rotherham before sheffield too, as sheffield was so difficult to build into because of the hills and valleys.

astraflash

12-12-2004, 23:42

BORE ING *************

buck

14-12-2004, 16:18

When I was young and foolish I would never go to Rotherham for fun, couldn't get the soot out of my eyes. Now MANCHESTER that's a different story, and better yet Nottingham. Those were fun places.

NJMUK

14-12-2004, 23:37

Originally posted by buck
When I was young and foolish I would never go to Rotherham for fun, couldn't get the soot out of my eyes. Now MANCHESTER that's a different story, and better yet Nottingham. Those were fun places.

Well I live in Heanor now bang in the middle of Snottingham and Derby. Her dads side are Derby and her Mums Belper so we class Derby as our home town (despite getting Notts yellow pages).... Good town and good nightlife but most of Nottinghams suburbs look like beirut and it's worse than Rotherham. The small town wins down here. Derby p*sses on Nottingham! Come on you Sheeeeeeeep!

underground1

16-03-2005, 14:34

Why do people from Sheffield always s.lag Rotherham down, and people from Rotherham do the same to Sheffield?
I think they are good & bad bits to both.
Any one think same?

viking

16-03-2005, 14:43

Originally posted by underground1
Why do people from Sheffield always s.lag Rotherham down, and people from Rotherham do the same to Sheffield?
I think they are good & bad bits to both.
Any one think same?

Says him who, only last week said "I wouldn't live in dinny if they paid me" :suspect:

underground1

16-03-2005, 14:45

Originally posted by viking
Says him who, only last week said "I wouldn't live in dinny if they paid me" :suspect:

yeah...i dont like dinno loads of mi mates are from there, i was dissing it tho....theres loads of places in roth i wunt wanna live. :)

underground1

16-03-2005, 14:48

Originally posted by underground1
yeah...i dont like dinno loads of mi mates are from there, i was dissing it tho....theres loads of places in roth i wunt wanna live. :)

i ment to put wasnt dissing it tho.......:)

viking

16-03-2005, 14:48

Originally posted by underground1
yeah...i dont like dinno loads of mi mates are from there, i was dissing it tho....theres loads of places in roth i wunt wanna live. :)

We only moved here last year and love it.
Might think different in a year or 2 though :P

underground1

16-03-2005, 14:50

Originally posted by viking
We only moved here last year and love it.
Might think different in a year or 2 though :P

there are some nice places in dino and its really close to everything....e.g. shops, Pubs, bus station. U go down rotherham?

Unisol

16-03-2005, 14:51

How can comparisons be made between Sheffield and Rotherham?

underground1

16-03-2005, 14:52

Originally posted by Unisol
How can comparisons be made between Sheffield and Rotherham?

why not?......what people like more about roth or sheff, and why do people s.lag each other of from sheff & roth.

scottf

16-03-2005, 15:03

Each has its own benefits and drawbacks for example-

Roth + points - hardly any traffic jams (most of the time), good roads, ample parking, no students, cheaper houses

Sheff + points- better bars/clubs, better shopping, more jobs

etc etc.

underground1

16-03-2005, 15:06

I like rotherhams nightlife and i am always down rotherhan at weekends, but i prefer going round sheffield, but cant always afford it.

underground1

16-03-2005, 17:14

anyone 1 else wanna tell us what you think between rotherham & sheffield?

PARAPA

16-03-2005, 19:55

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=18140&highlight=rotherham+sheffield

underground1

16-03-2005, 20:32

i dont know why people diss rotherham so much, like people have been doing on this forum, cos if half of u wanna say stuff like that come down roth and go in Effingham, Rhino or Underground and say stuff like that....and lets c what happens.

bellis

16-03-2005, 20:38

foxy027

16-03-2005, 22:49

Originally posted by Rich
Rotherham has a Sheffield postcode, S70 I think :lol:

I think its Barnsley S70's
Rotherham S60's

or is that Rotherham and Barnsley are stuck in the 60's 'n' 70's!!

redrobbo

16-03-2005, 23:49

Rotherham has a rare church on a bridge (I think there are only 5 or 6 still remaining in England - Derby has one as well).

Rotherham includes some very nice villages, like Harthill & Thorpe Salvin.

Help....I'm getting stuck now.

Oh yes - Rother Valley Country Park (shared with Derbyshire - even the plaque records it was the Chairman of Derbyshire County Council who opened it!)

Errr.....that's all the good points of Rotherham I can think about .

PS Conisbrough is in Doncaster

PPS NJMUK - I was born and bred in Derby - but Nottingham beats Derby anyday! But let's not start a whole new argument!

underground1

17-03-2005, 10:38

Originally posted by foxy027
I think its Barnsley S70's
Rotherham S60's

or is that Rotherham and Barnsley are stuck in the 60's 'n' 70's!!

loads of places use the S at begging of postcode, some parts of london do....so whos to say it is a sheffield postcode?

underground1

17-03-2005, 10:42

Does any 1 know how much a average bottle of VK is in sheffield on a friday night or a pint?

5_HATS

17-03-2005, 10:49

Originally posted by underground1
i dont know why people diss rotherham so much, like people have been doing on this forum, cos if half of u wanna say stuff like that come down roth and go in Effingham, Rhino or Underground and say stuff like that....and lets c what happens.

You really are a prize knob jockey aren't you. I'm sure that if I went down to Rotherham and said

"You are all inbreds who sleep with your cousins" , then yes I would get a punch, but then the truth hurts doesn't it.

Unisol

17-03-2005, 10:54

Originally posted by underground1
loads of places use the S at begging of postcode, some parts of london do....so whos to say it is a sheffield postcode?

Wrong!

S isn't used on it's own in London e.g. SW

S on it's own is for Sheffield and the whole of it's metropolitan area

underground1

17-03-2005, 10:57

Originally posted by 5_HATS
You really are a prize knob jockey aren't you. I'm sure that if I went down to Rotherham and said

"You are all inbreds who sleep with your cousins" , then yes I would get a punch, but then the truth hurts doesn't it.

where inbreds?....u only have to goto a estate in sheffield and every one is realted, the same family all live on one street....there is about 15 dads & milkman, and about 4 mums whith 3daughters each who each have 3 daughters, and the father is the mums husbdand.

underground1

17-03-2005, 10:57

Originally posted by Unisol
Wrong!

S isn't used on it's own in London e.g. SW

S on it's own is for Sheffield and the whole of it's metropolitan area

well what does SW in london stand 4?

Unisol

17-03-2005, 11:00

Originally posted by underground1
well what does SW in london stand 4?

I always presumed it stood for 'SouthWest'

underground1

17-03-2005, 11:02

Originally posted by Unisol
I always presumed it stood for 'SouthWest'

AND I HAVE JUST BEEN LOOKING ON A WEBSITE AND THE S STANDS FOR SOUTH YORKSHIRE NOT SHEFFIELD

5_HATS

17-03-2005, 11:04

Originally posted by underground1
where inbreds?....u only have to goto a estate in sheffield and every one is realted, the same family all live on one street....there is about 15 dads & milkman, and about 4 mums whith 3daughters each who each have 3 daughters, and the father is the mums husbdand.

Yep Sheffield has its fair share of inbreds, but sheffield is a massive city whereas Rotherham is more of a Town. Sheffield, however, dicks all over Rotherham in every aspect:
Nightlife
Quality of Living
Culture
Diversity
History
the list goes on and on and on.

There is no Comparison

5_HATS

17-03-2005, 11:06

Originally posted by underground1
AND I HAVE JUST BEEN LOOKING ON A WEBSITE AND THE S STANDS FOR SOUTH YORKSHIRE NOT SHEFFIELD

Give up now please, you are fighting a hopeless battle.

underground1

17-03-2005, 11:08

Originally posted by 5_HATS
Yep Sheffield has its fair share of inbreds, but sheffield is a massive city whereas Rotherham is more of a Town. Sheffield, however, dicks all over Rotherham in every aspect:
Nightlife
Quality of Living
Culture
Diversity
History
the list goes on and on and on.

There is no Comparison

HAHAHA......what a joke, sheffield is full of **** head students, takeaways and run downestates....And rotherham is a Town.
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underground1

17-03-2005, 11:09

Originally posted by 5_HATS
Give up now please, you are fighting a hopeless battle.

what i wanna know is why you keep dissing rotherham all the time, evrything someone says your allways saying sheffield is better, remeber sheffield is alot bigger than rotherham.....but rotherham is fine as it is.

Classic Rock

17-03-2005, 11:13

Originally posted by underground1
AND I HAVE JUST BEEN LOOKING ON A WEBSITE AND THE S STANDS FOR SOUTH YORKSHIRE NOT SHEFFIELD

If that's the case then why do Doncaster addresses have DN postcodes?

underground1

17-03-2005, 11:18

Originally posted by Classic Rock
If that's the case then why do Doncaster addresses have DN postcodes?

WELL WHT DOES IT STAND THEN?..... BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF LINCOLNDS POSTCODES START DN?

5_HATS

17-03-2005, 11:19

Originally posted by underground1
HAHAHA......what a joke, sheffield is full of **** head students, takeaways and run downestates....And rotherham is a Town.
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Name one MAJOR city that isn't full of students, take aways, and run down estates?

The fact is Sheffield is a vibrant City that has a very promising future whereas Rotherham is blatently a Sh*t hole full of ibred hillbillies like yourself

underground1

17-03-2005, 11:26

Originally posted by 5_HATS
Name one MAJOR city that isn't full of students, take aways, and run down estates?

The fact is Sheffield is a vibrant City that has a very promising future whereas Rotherham is blatently a Sh*t hole full of ibred hillbillies like yourself

Well why dont you explain in details whats is wrong with Rotherham then?

5_HATS

17-03-2005, 11:30

Originally posted by underground1
Well why dont you explain in details whats is wrong with Rotherham then?

You live there:clap:

underground1

17-03-2005, 11:37

Originally posted by 5_HATS
You live there:clap:

What i thinks wrong with Sheffield is that its the home of Sheffield Wednesday, but i do have to admit that sheffield has some nice areas like, Manor Top, Brightside......Erm dont think so!

Go to Roxy Nightclub and dance round ya handbag!

boston

17-03-2005, 11:51

toytown (whats wrong)
shellsuits, dalton, eastwood, canklow, perms, chuckle brothers, ronnie moore, a larger than average population of inbreds, and a deep resentment toward all things that come from out of the big city (like chessies do), oh and a half hearted attempt at copying our peace gardens,
dee dah and proud

underground1

17-03-2005, 15:23

Originally posted by boston
toytown (whats wrong)
shellsuits, dalton, eastwood, canklow, perms, chuckle brothers, ronnie moore, a larger than average population of inbreds, and a deep resentment toward all things that come from out of the big city (like chessies do), oh and a half hearted attempt at copying our peace gardens,
dee dah and proud

Sheffield Wednesday :(

SlimboyFat

17-03-2005, 21:12

Crime Rates

All figures are per 1,000 population.

Crime Type / Rotherham / Average / Sheffield

Theft from a vehicle offences / 11.6 / 10.0 / 18.7
Theft of a motor vehicle offences / 7.7 / 4.5 / 7.8
Burglary dwelling offences / 8.2 / 6.4 / 10.2
Robbery offences / 0.6 / 1.4 / 1.8
Sexual offences / 0.5 / 0.9 / 0.8
Violence against the person / 9.1 / 16.5 / 11.4

Source: Up My Street

The figure in BOLD is the highest of the 2 area's.

Statistics
From the 6 types of offence listed Sheffield has a higher rate than Rotherham in them all. I have shown all categories that are shown on Up My Street, I have not just taken a few that prove the point.

From the 6 types of offence listed Sheffield has a higher rate than the UK average for 4 of them

Adding up all the figures we can work out the % of the population that will be victim to one of the above offences.
Rotherham 3.77%
Average 3.97%
Sheffield 5.07%

Do you still think that Sheffield is such a pleasant place to live???

underground1

18-03-2005, 09:01

i dont know......give me rotherhan anyday

scottf

18-03-2005, 09:17

underground1

18-03-2005, 09:20

Originally posted by scottf
Ronnie moore is from liverpool you fool :D :D

and where have they tried to copy the peace gardens?

he is talking aload of crap, :)

underground1

18-03-2005, 09:21

any one else going to take poll?

Captain_Scarlet

18-03-2005, 10:02

Originally posted by underground1
any one else going to take poll? Not until there's a question in that poll worth answering

5_HATS

18-03-2005, 11:40

Originally posted by underground1
What i thinks wrong with Sheffield is that its the home of Sheffield Wednesday, but i do have to admit that sheffield has some nice areas like, Manor Top, Brightside......Erm dont think so!

Go to Roxy Nightclub and dance round ya handbag!

:) :( :o :D ;) ::

You're Funny you are

underground1

18-03-2005, 12:45

Originally posted by 5_HATS
:) :( :o :D ;) ::

You're Funny you are

only messing....so what club you normally goto?

5_HATS

18-03-2005, 13:12

A number that play music that I am into. .Zero is probably the best Club in Sheffield at the Moment

Unisol

18-03-2005, 13:27

Originally posted by 5_HATS
A number that play music that I am into. .Zero is probably the best Club in Sheffield at the Moment

You there tomorrow 5_hats?

I should hopefully be in attendance with a few friends.

underground1

18-03-2005, 13:28

Originally posted by 5_HATS
A number that play music that I am into. .Zero is probably the best Club in Sheffield at the Moment

did zero shut down 4 abit and then reopen, because i can rember people saying that it was only open for events. I can rember when they had speed garage nights there, what music they play now on a fr & sat?

badboyracer

18-03-2005, 13:28

pointless

this topic no place is better than another place.

underground1

18-03-2005, 13:31

Originally posted by badboyracer
pointless

this topic no place is better than another place.

where not he to talk about that, i wanna know why people from each town hate each other:suspect:

Unisol

18-03-2005, 13:37

I don't think it's a case of people hating each other.

Comparisons are being made between Sheffield/Rotherham which i think is impossible to do.

I have nothing against Rotherham, but whenever i've driven through/around it, it does seem incredibly dull and lifeless.

That's only my limited experience of the place however so i may be wrong. Maybe it's a bustling metropolis of cosmopolitan splendour?

5_HATS

18-03-2005, 14:24

Originally posted by underground1
did zero shut down 4 abit and then reopen, because i can rember people saying that it was only open for events. I can rember when they had speed garage nights there, what music they play now on a fr & sat?

Friday they play breaks and tech house and other stuff at Urban Gorilla

Saturday they vary btween Hustle, whcih plays house and stuff, Planet Zogg which plays Psy Trance and Techno, Sneak which plays Drum and Bass and Jungle, and Razor Stilleto that plays Electro and stuff with live acts.

Don't really like the club that much but the nights there are really diverse and have had some absolutley banging nights down there.

underground1

18-03-2005, 17:43

Originally posted by 5_HATS
Friday they play breaks and tech house and other stuff at Urban Gorilla

Saturday they vary btween Hustle, whcih plays house and stuff, Planet Zogg which plays Psy Trance and Techno, Sneak which plays Drum and Bass and Jungle, and Razor Stilleto that plays Electro and stuff with live acts.

Don't really like the club that much but the nights there are really diverse and have had some absolutley banging nights down there.

how much is entry , drinks ect ? :help:

base2001

18-03-2005, 23:33

underground1

19-03-2005, 10:26

Originally posted by base2001
well it like us saying go zone go zone, its closed just like roxy's, plank. dont forget to sit at top of high bar in ya nova wit neon lights, and chav gear on!!!!!!

i might do.....going up ship hill in rotherham 2ngiht

:clap:

underground1

19-03-2005, 10:27

Originally posted by underground1
i might do.....going up ship hill in rotherham 2ngiht

:clap:

And its a corsa mate....not a Nova

underground1

19-03-2005, 14:40

Does any 1 know if Adelphi is still open?

carcrash

19-03-2005, 15:04

why don't you phone them up.

underground1

19-03-2005, 15:05

Originally posted by carcrash
why don't you phone them up.

and whats the number?

Rich

19-03-2005, 15:12

Originally posted by underground1
and whats the number?

0114 243 1503.

Google's my bestest mate :clap:

carcrash

19-03-2005, 15:19

.................................................. please delete

underground1

19-03-2005, 15:30

Originally posted by carcrash
.................................................. please delete

delete DJK Kucia

underground1

19-03-2005, 15:30

Originally posted by Rich
0114 243 1503.

Google's my bestest mate :clap:

cheers mate ! :thumbsup:

Unisol

19-03-2005, 15:32

Originally posted by underground1
Does any 1 know if Adelphi is still open?

It's open next week for Love2Be!

underground1

19-03-2005, 16:18

Originally posted by Unisol
It's open next week for Love2Be!

do u know what times mate?....and how much entry and what type of even it is

Delicata

20-03-2005, 01:37

Rotherham may be small, but it's perfectly formed!

I am from Rotherham and where I live all I can see from my back window is trees and green fields.

At the top of the hill is a green space, a park exactly. Round the corner is another, smaller park with a kids play area.

Ok, so we have the Chuckles, so what. Sheffield USED to brew my favourite beer, alas no more.

Rotherham rocks man! Sheffield, too much hassle, hustle and bustle. And I used to live in London!

Sheffield has nothing I would want, not anymore. You see, Rotherham evan has its own Wetherspoons, (2 to be exact).

buck

20-03-2005, 03:52

Chesterfield's a poky little hole just like Royherham, but they don't have an inferiority complex.

underground1

20-03-2005, 09:31

Originally posted by Delicata
Rotherham may be small, but it's perfectly formed!

I am from Rotherham and where I live all I can see from my back window is trees and green fields.

At the top of the hill is a green space, a park exactly. Round the corner is another, smaller park with a kids play area.

Ok, so we have the Chuckles, so what. Sheffield USED to brew my favourite beer, alas no more.

Rotherham rocks man! Sheffield, too much hassle, hustle and bustle. And I used to live in London!

Sheffield has nothing I would want, not anymore. You see, Rotherham evan has its own Wetherspoons, (2 to be exact).

spot on......COME ON ROTHERHAM!!!! :clap: :clap:

PARAPA

20-03-2005, 12:54

Originally posted by underground1
spot on......COME ON ROTHERHAM!!!! :clap: :clap:

All hail the mighty Rotherham!

rubydazzler

20-03-2005, 12:59

OI, nawthenthee - wotsupwithee? get thi own forum if tha wants to mourge abart us in Sheffield .. nowt wrong wi reight fowk ...

Phanerothyme

20-03-2005, 13:22

threads merged

underground1

20-03-2005, 18:09

Originally posted by rubydazzler
OI, nawthenthee - wotsupwithee? get thi own forum if tha wants to mourge abart us in Sheffield .. nowt wrong wi reight fowk ...

I think you should be coming on sheffield forum, and start learning how to speak mate! :loopy: :loopy:

Delicata

20-03-2005, 21:23

Originally posted by rubydazzler
OI, nawthenthee - wotsupwithee? get thi own forum if tha wants to mourge abart us in Sheffield .. nowt wrong wi reight fowk ...
And folk from Sheffield wonder why folk from Rotherham don't like them!

If they all speak like they are from Barnsley, is there any wonder.

We have our own forum by the way. Check out www.rotherhamchat.co.uk, but be warned, you WILL receive a real drubbin' if you diss any of it's members

bellis

21-03-2005, 02:28

bellis

21-03-2005, 02:29

Originally posted by underground1
I think you should be coming on sheffield forum, and start learning how to speak mate! :loopy: :loopy:

pot

kettle

black

Delicata

21-03-2005, 04:31

Originally posted by panda79
the link doesnt work bit like rotherham really lol , but seriously its not as bad as they say it is after all where else can you find 50p shops next to poundland:D :D :D

Try http://rotherhamchat.co.uk instead then.

underground1

21-03-2005, 07:10

Originally posted by Delicata
Try http://rotherhamchat.co.uk instead then.

rotherham forum aint that good, thats why i use this one. :hihi:

rubydazzler

21-03-2005, 07:45

Originally posted by underground1
I think you should be coming on sheffield forum

but I AM on the Sheffield Forum ..... ??

(looks around to verify that fact)

Yes, thought so.

rubydazzler

21-03-2005, 08:30

Originally posted by Delicata
And folk from Sheffield wonder why folk from Rotherham don't like them!
If they all speak like they are from Barnsley, is there any wonder.
We have our own forum by the way. Check out www.rotherhamchat.co.uk, but be warned, you WILL receive a real drubbin' if you diss any of it's members

*blushes* yes Delicata - you're quite right - I did learn my dialect from http://www.barnsleylife.com/tonythepitpony.htm but my post was intended to be a little bit of a joke ... no sense of humour in Rotherham then? or is that just you?

I didn't know Rotherham people didn't like Sheffield people before this thread was started :( when did this feud start? But if you have your own Forum why come here instead? Are you just trying to pick a fight? :rolleyes:

Litha

21-03-2005, 10:23

im a rotherhamer but married a sheffield fella so now i live in sheffield so i use both forums...... and i have got to say ROTHERHAM FORUM is a much more friendly place the owner & mods dont find the need to be soo padantic about spelling grammer etc... and ive not seen anyone been jumped on and verbally abused for threads such as .. the rabbit on loan or the home schooling on here.

Litha

Delicata

21-03-2005, 11:19

Originally posted by rubydazzler Are you just trying to pick a fight? :rolleyes: [/B]
Only if you think you can handle it!

foxy027

21-03-2005, 21:32

Don_Kiddick

22-03-2005, 08:10

Why should it be an issue; any of it?:loopy:

This is how the ruling classes keep you subjugated! :rant:

Divide and rule; get the peasants & rabble bickering over trivialities & set them off against each other.

While you are scrapping the gentry can walk all over you. :suspect:

And Rotherham is the bestest :thumbsup: 'cos I live there of course!

Litha

22-03-2005, 09:22

Originally posted by foxy027
Inbreds are in Thurnscoe...

no their not there in chesterfield < heehee>:P

princessky

22-03-2005, 18:25

Is it me is it tradition for every girl to get up the duff after reaching the age of 15 in Rotherham?

underground1

22-03-2005, 21:23

Originally posted by princessky
Is it me is it tradition for every girl to get up the duff after reaching the age of 15 in Rotherham?

rotherham??????? Sheffield cant talk everytime ya c a young lass in sheff, shes got a pliff in hand and pushing a pram! :hihi:

SlimboyFat

22-03-2005, 22:29

Originally posted by princessky
Is it me is it tradition for every girl to get up the duff after reaching the age of 15 in Rotherham?

It's usually much younger than that :D

peterdo

23-03-2005, 05:03

Nothing changes ,this argument has been going for ever, and no doubt continue till hell freezes over.

buck

23-03-2005, 14:52

I was in Durty Nellies pub in County Clare, and asked this guy where he was from because one of my pals said he sounded like me. He told me he was from Rotherham, so when I told him I was born in Sheffield, he almost exploded with fury. Jeez I thought who pulled his chain. I'm glad he didn't say owt about America cos I was with a bunch of basketball players from NYC, all of them about seven feet tall and mostly black!!

underground1

23-03-2005, 17:24

Originally posted by buck
I was in Durty Nellies pub in County Clare, and asked this guy where he was from because one of my pals said he sounded like me. He told me he was from Rotherham, so when I told him I was born in Sheffield, he almost exploded with fury. Jeez I thought who pulled his chain. I'm glad he didn't say owt about America cos I was with a bunch of basketball players from NYC, all of them about seven feet tall and mostly black!!

yeah i bet he did! :loopy:

underground1

24-03-2005, 14:16

Any 1 of down roth friday night?

nick2

24-03-2005, 14:19

Originally posted by buck
I was with a bunch of basketball players from NYC, all of them about seven feet tall and mostly black!!

Eh, were they black with white bits ?

Delicata

25-03-2005, 03:36

Originally posted by foxy027
Inbreds are in Thurnscoe...
And Bolton on Dearne

Delicata

25-03-2005, 03:38

Stupidity isn't contagious, lick a Chav!

Why would you want to?

Litha

25-03-2005, 10:01

its much nicer to lick a Witch :thumbsup:

Destiny

25-03-2005, 23:05

I couldn't agree more Litha..............can i pinch ur quote?.......heehee. Hope ur okay hun, c ya soon.
hugs
Sol xx

underground1

26-03-2005, 10:59

Does any 1 know if sheffield airport is still open?

Litha

26-03-2005, 15:50

Originally posted by Destiny
I couldn't agree more Litha..............can i pinch ur quote?.......heehee. Hope ur okay hun, c ya soon.
hugs
Sol xx

of course you can missis :D
take care
hugs bak@ ya
Litha xxxxx

Don_Kiddick

27-03-2005, 07:16

Originally posted by Delicata
Why would you want to?

It's the Yorkshire lick - as in butt kicking :mrgreen:

underground1

28-03-2005, 17:02

Sheffields prostitues?....and one see that programme other day on BBC1?

carpetviper

28-03-2005, 20:58

meadowhall is in sheffield it has sheffield postcodes and sheffield phone numbers typical rotheram dicks trying to thieve whats not theirs

SlimboyFat

28-03-2005, 21:43

I don't know who said Meadowhall was in Rotherham (you can keep it).

But how often do you hear of Magna Centre in Sheffield (since it became popular).
Magna, Sheffield Road, Templebrough, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, S60 1DX

typical sheffield dicks trying to thieve whats not theirs :D

Mark69

28-03-2005, 22:06

Sheffield is definatly better than Rotherham. Rotherham is too tiny and well the football team is going down. Sheff Utd beat toy town millers every time.

SlimboyFat

28-03-2005, 22:27

But as I dont follow football at all, this does not sway the argument one bit.

The one time I heard a lot about football (from a colleague) weren't the Sheffield Teams in the top division and Rotherham the bottom. I'm led to beleive that they are all in the 2nd (whatever its called these days) so in fact rotherham are up and the Sheffield are down.. :D

underground1

30-03-2005, 19:01

Yeah magan is rotherham!!! in your face , in your face yes sheffield in your face!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

YES IN YOUR FACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :heyhey: :headbang: :banana: :nono:

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 20:47

so what at least sheffield has'nt got a Eastwood or Dalton!!!

underground1

14-04-2005, 20:52

Originally posted by sigmar14
so what at least sheffield has'nt got a Eastwood or Dalton!!!

no they have lots & lots more esates like dalton and eastwood! :loopy: :loopy:

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:00

Originally posted by underground1
no they have lots & lots more esates like dalton and eastwood! :loopy: :loopy:

who have lots more estates than eastwood or dalton?

do you come from eastwood or dalton?

or did i forget to mention canklow!!!

worse than the manor estate in my opinion!

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:03

Originally posted by sigmar14
who have lots more estates than eastwood or dalton?

do you come from eastwood or dalton?

or did i forget to mention canklow!!!

worse than the manor estate in my opinion!

lol.....you making me and mi mates laugh our heads of, yeah we do have dalton, canklow, eastwood & a few more, but we aint botherd cos we know sheffield has same so i dont think ya can compare with that 1! Prat!

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:04

what ones are they then? rather have manor than eastwood!

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:06

at least the sheffield people are more friendlier and how many times do you see people from rotherham going to sheffield city centre to do they're shopping?

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:08

Originally posted by sigmar14
at least the sheffield people are more friendlier and how many times do you see people from rotherham going to sheffield city centre to do they're shopping?

a lot, i also know that people goto sheffield nightlife and i know that people from sheffield goto rotherhams.

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:11

what underground and liquid don't make me laugh they@ll be shut down by the end of the year even doncaster's got a better nightlife and tha's saying something!!!

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:12

p.s look at the poll if you don't like sheffield get off this forum and see if rotherham's got one oh forgot it hasen't has it because it's to small.

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:13

Originally posted by sigmar14
what underground and liquid don't make me laugh they@ll be shut down by the end of the year even doncaster's got a better nightlife and tha's saying something!!!

lol....everytime i have been in Underground over last couple of month loads of people from sheff have been there and said it is a good night, how did u know about underground & liquid u been?.......how old u anyway?

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:15

Originally posted by sigmar14
p.s look at the poll if you don't like sheffield get off this forum and see if rotherham's got one oh forgot it hasen't has it because it's to small.

lol your a joke........in the terms of this site does it request that you are from sheffield?....Erm no, and rotherham does have a forum thanks u want link it?

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:15

17,no haven't been but been past on bus to my nans in eastwood!

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:17

Originally posted by sigmar14
17,no haven't been but been past on bus to my nans in eastwood!

i didnt know eastwood bus went past liquid & underground to say that each one is at each sides of town. Any why take **** of eastwood wen ya nan lives there?

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:19

she hates the place full of yobs and abandoned houses police patrols everynight she car'nt wait to move back out!

also dalton don't know if it's still bad but it youst to look really rough when all the old boarded houses were up.

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:20

Originally posted by sigmar14
she hates the place full of yobs and abandoned houses police patrols everynight she car'nt wait to move back out!

also dalton don't know if it's still bad but it youst to look really rough when all the old boarded houses were up.

i dont know where ya looking mate rotherham dunt have many obandend houses......well why dunt ya move ya nan bac to sheffield then?

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:21

[QUOTE]Originally posted by underground1
[B]i didnt know eastwood bus went past liquid & underground

catch the 69,130 from arundel gate in sheffield city centre and get of at rotherham bus station which is always full of yobs then catch the 4 or x78 don't like catching x78 from sheffield though because it goes through meadowhall and i hate the place!!!

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:23

houses are cheaper in rotherham that's the only reason anyone lives in rotherham oh and parkgate which i think is better than meadowhall but rotherham town centre has really gone down hill in the past decade!!!

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:23

Originally posted by sigmar14
[QUOTE]Originally posted by underground1
[B]i didnt know eastwood bus went past liquid & underground

catch the 69,130 from arundel gate in sheffield city centre and get of at rotherham bus station which is always full of yobs then catch the 4 or x78 don't like catching x78 from sheffield though because it goes through meadowhall and i hate the place!!!

yobs....lol.....are u gay mate?.....cos ya sound it

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:24

why? and no i ain't have a bird called sophie!

why you gay?

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:25

Originally posted by sigmar14
why? and no i ain't have a bird called sophie!

why you gay?

if your 17 and u going on like u r about 70 and yobs wa looking at u......where in sheff U?

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:27

can we get back on the topic!!!

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:29

Originally posted by sigmar14
can we get back on the topic!!!

i know.....but your really boring me now, and i would rather listen to speed garage. Cya

bellis

14-04-2005, 21:31

Originally posted by underground1
i know.....but your really boring me now, and i would rather listen to speed garage. Cya

so cant you type and listen to your speed garage at the same time or does this speed garage need brain cells:D :D :D

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:33

cya too have a look on the other topics aswell by the way i thought that there was another topic about the underground rotherham nightlife got better if i were you i'd keep the underground postings to that topic this is about what's better in sheffield than rotherham!!!

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:33

Originally posted by panda79
so cant you type and listen to your speed garage at the same time or does this speed garage need brain cells:D :D :D

yeah i can but can be bothered mate. :hihi:

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:34

Originally posted by panda79
so cant you type and listen to your speed garage at the same time or does this speed garage need brain cells:D :D :D

don't be silly he's from rotherham not from sheffield.

inbred!!!

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:36

Originally posted by sigmar14
don't be silly he's from rotherham not from sheffield.

inbred!!!

lol......your think mate, inbreds come from Dinno which is sheffield mate! ( viking that comment was not aimed at u )

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:39

when you said dinno did you mean dinnington?
please post me back!

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:40

Originally posted by sigmar14
when you said dinno did you mean dinnington?
please post me back!

yeah i did meen dinnington

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:42

well mate dinnington's in rotherham rotherham coucil pay taxes to rotherham in rotherham boundry! i think you must like slagging of your town mate.

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:45

Originally posted by sigmar14
well mate dinnington's in rotherham rotherham coucil pay taxes to rotherham in rotherham boundry! i think you must like slagging of your town mate.

No its not, they use worksop number 01909, and there address is Sheffield same as Anston which is nxt to dinno.

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:48

but sheffield city council don't own it and the sheffield boundry startes at woodhouse mill and goes at the other side of rothervalley park down towards killamarsh so get youre fax right. and no wonder it's such a dump because rotherham council own it also dinnington referes it's self to sheffield rather than rotherham because it is closer and is a biger and more well known city.

underground1

14-04-2005, 21:52

Originally posted by sigmar14
but sheffield city council don't own it and the sheffield boundry startes at woodhouse mill and goes at the other side of rothervalley park down towards killamarsh so get youre fax right. and no wonder it's such a dump because rotherham council own it also dinnington referes it's self to sheffield rather than rotherham because it is closer and is a biger and more well known city.

lol....so rotherham pay but sheffield claim it to be theres.....lol......they might do cos they would rather be giving money to drug dealers.....and yes that was aimed at sheffield no roth!

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 21:55

why? it's like it's little own town like stocksbridge or swinton and no sheffield don't claim it to be there's!!!

frenchfrie

14-04-2005, 21:57

LET’S GET REAL ON THIS ONE FOLKS.

There isn't really anyway that Rotherham is ever going to shape up to Sheff by offering more, better, bigger etc. in terms of pubs, clubs, nightlife, shopping, football, parks, in fact I'm struggling to think of anything that Rotherham wins on.

Okay Magna is sort of okay (once) but apart from that place why in the name of Jeremy Clarkson would you want to go to Rotherham?

Now before I get jumped on by Miller Men left right and centre let me explain. Yes, I was born in Sheffield. Yes, I've lived and worked in Rotherham for most of my years. Yes, I've even gone out on a weekend in Rotherham when I moved back to Sheff. Hell, I've even been out in Chesterfield!

Looking back, the attraction for me to go out in Rotherham was simply the circle of friends who I worked with and who lived in Rotherham at that time. I have to say once I moved back to Shiny Sheff and invited them to sample the delights of the big city - well many I still see round Sheff city centre fairly regular. Enough said.

Bottom line is Sheffield is bigger, which translates to more choice with some better class venues and it's definitely less insular and more accepting in its outlook. Of course bigger brings extremes at the other end of the spectrum too - I saw that Canklow got some bad press earlier - I can think of certain parts of Sheffield that would make Canklow look like Crosspool, but it's all got to be taken into account within the grander scheme of things.

Result: Sheffield 4 Rotherham 1 (for persistence, cheek and efort)

All IMHO of course!!
:thumbsup:

underground1

14-04-2005, 22:02

Originally posted by frenchfrie
LET’S GET REAL ON THIS ONE FOLKS.

There isn't really anyway that Rotherham is ever going to shape up to Sheff by offering more, better, bigger etc. in terms of pubs, clubs, nightlife, shopping, football, parks, in fact I'm struggling to think of anything that Rotherham wins on.

Okay Magna is sort of okay (once) but apart from that place why in the name of Jeremy Clarkson would you want to go to Rotherham?

Now before I get jumped on by Miller Men left right and centre let me explain. Yes, I was born in Sheffield. Yes, I've lived and worked in Rotherham for most of my years. Yes, I've even gone out on a weekend in Rotherham when I moved back to Sheff. Hell, I've even been out in Chesterfield!

Looking back, the attraction for me to go out in Rotherham was simply the circle of friends who I worked with and who lived in Rotherham at that time. I have to say once I moved back to Shiny Sheff and invited them to sample the delights of the big city - well many I still see round Sheff city centre fairly regular. Enough said.

Bottom line is Sheffield is bigger, which translates to more choice with some better class venues and it's definitely less insular and more accepting in its outlook. Of course bigger brings extremes at the other end of the spectrum too - I saw that Canklow got some bad press earlier - I can think of certain parts of Sheffield that would make Canklow look like Crosspool, but it's all got to be taken into account within the grander scheme of things.

Result: Sheffield 4 Rotherham 1 (for persistence, cheek and efort)

All IMHO of course!!
:thumbsup:

Sheffield 4 Rotherham 1 .......some how that dunt seem to be fare.....lol, i know sheffield is a lot bigger but 4 the size of the plase it is a good town, we have got everything we need, its juts people when there saying it is full of scum, yeah some weired people but sheffield has aswell.

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 22:02

exactly true hope your reading this underground1!!!

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 22:04

underground1

14-04-2005, 22:07

Originally posted by sigmar14
he's talking about the main town of rotherham not all of the other borough's!

yeah i am on about the town.......carry on this crap anyway cos im gunna b on 2morrow

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 22:10

ok then!!! oh by the way do you still think that dinnington is still in sheffield?

frenchfrie

14-04-2005, 22:13

Originally posted by underground1
Sheffield 4 Rotherham 1 .......some how that dunt seem to be fare.....lol, i know sheffield is a lot bigger but 4 the size of the plase it is a good town, we have got everything we need, its juts people when there saying it is full of scum, yeah some weired people but sheffield has aswell.

Err, perhaps you didn't read my post? :loopy: Where did I say Rotherham was full of scum? ":confused To correct you I said I'd lived there for most of my working life !:loopy: duh!

As for weird people in Sheff - well wasn't I explicit enough with my comment re extremes, Canklow & Crosspool ???? :confused: :confused: :confused:

sigmar14

14-04-2005, 22:15

he's too paranoid becaus he knows that no one on the Sheffield Forum likes him because he comes from Rotherham!!!

enough said!

MTheo

14-04-2005, 22:22

i voted sheffield.

but rotherham gave us the chuckle brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

class! :D lol

frenchfrie

14-04-2005, 22:24

To You to MTheo! lol

SlimboyFat

14-04-2005, 22:55

Rotherham has lower crime rates (this is as a % of the population so don't go saying, Sheffield has more people = more crime). I have mentioned this a couple of times in the "We are better than you squabbles" but Sheffield seems to keep ignoring the point.

As for Dinnington, Do a search on Yell for any Dinnington Business..
eg. Unit 51, Dinnington Bsns Centre, Outgang Lane, Dinnington, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S25 3QX

frenchfrie: Hope you didn't mention Jeremy Clarkson trying to state that he is a Rotherhamer. We just gave him one of is first jobs (for this I do apoligise) but he is from Doncaster.

I will agree that Sheffield has more choice for certain things (namely Clubbing). Apart from the works xmas do's (in Barnsley) I havent been to a Club in about 10 years. Even then I prefered the smaller venues (Revolutions, Rotherham anyone ???)

Shopping: Yes Rotherham has gone downhill since Meadowhall, but so did Sheffield. How I remember it Rotherham has had a slow decline where has Sheffield had quite a major drop as soon as Meadowhall opened (why have 2 stores in the same city??? )

As for the Eastwood, Manor argument can I add Pittsmoor. On the other end could I add Whiston, Wickersley, Ravensfield and Braithwell (thats just off the top of my head thinking of just one side of Rotherham)

This sort of argument is never going to be won. As I was born and bred in Rotherham I know it well, most of my friends are here, most of the places I have to visit (shop, doctors etc) are here. Moving to another area would be strange so I have to say i prefere Rotherham but I can see exactly why you would prefere Sheffield. Everybody must have drove / been driven through an uncommon area (even as close as Sheffield / Rotherham) and thought "I dont like the look of this area, Im locking the doors"

What I don't understand is the "Your all scum". I have never stated that any Sheffielder is scum. There is not anough culteral difference to make Rotherhamers that much different to Sheffielders (and vice versa). My Mothers side of the Family are all Sheffielders (the 2 oldest bros where born there) and we are entirely the same type of people.

Note to Sheffielders: Please do not take underground1 as a typical Rotherhamer. Most of us (as I expect most Sheffielders) can string a sentence together.

sigmar14

15-04-2005, 14:58

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SlimboyFat
??? )

As for the Eastwood, Manor argument can I add Pittsmoor. On the other end could I add Whiston, Wickersley, Ravensfield and Braithwell (thats just off the top of my head thinking of just one side of Rotherham)

i thought that wickersly was surpost to be a nice area i'm confused please post me back and say what you meant!!!

sigmar14.

SlimboyFat

15-04-2005, 18:32

It seemed that some Sheffielders would list the rougher areas of Rotherham and the nicer areas of Sheffield and state that it proved Sheffield is better.

I was listing Pitsmore as one of the rougher areas of Sheffield and "On the other end" of the spectrum some of the nicer areas of Rotherham....

ps. Still waiting for a reply to the Crime Rate point :(

t020

15-04-2005, 19:49

Originally posted by SlimboyFat

ps. Still waiting for a reply to the Crime Rate point :(

Sheffield generally has higher crime statistics because it's a larger city so it's to be expected. However, wards such as Ecclesall, Hallam and Fulwood have crime figures significantly lower than the Sheffield average and much lower than the Rotherham averages.

So yes, maybe OVERALL there is less crime in Rotherham than there generally is in Sheffield, but that's only 1 point to Rotherham and doesn't really make up for:

- Sheffield "greenest" city in UK
- Peak District on doorstep
- Some of the wealthiest areas in country
- Two large and successful universities
- Top rate hospital facilities
- etc etc

Captain_Scarlet

15-04-2005, 23:14

Originally posted by Rich
Meh, Rotherham lays claim to Meadowhall... Eeven though it's borderline Sheffield/Rotherham... WTF?! :loopy:

Sheffield > Rotherham, nuff said. Meadowhell is pretty much within Sheffield boundaries, interchange, car park, overflow carp arks and centre...

Rotherham is just a small village in Sheffield and should just be part of the later... That or make it go to Derbyshire or sommit ...

SlimboyFat

15-04-2005, 23:14

Sheffield generally has higher crime statistics because it's a larger city so it's to be expected

As stated the figures I posted a while ago where the % of the population that would be a victim of crime. Why would you expect Sheffield to have a higher crime rate, I understand more crimes committed but not a higher %.

There are also areas in Rotherham that have much lower crime rates than the avarage for Rotherham. Where I live has a very low crime rate. Some kid nicks a Mars bar and its classed as major league robbery.

Sheffield "greenest" city in UK

I think it was you that mentioned this in another thread and I found it hard to believe. You passed a couple of Web Links so i must admit defeat on this one.

Although on Rotherhams defense, I would have thought that with area of green land per person I don't think we would be far behind you. I cant think of any area / village that doesn't have a park.

Peak District on doorstep

From where I live I can be on the parkway, up prince of wales and heading into Derbyshire in 30 mins tops. Probably quicker than some areas of Sheffield.
Quite oftem nip into Bradwell for a chip supper. you cant beat em.

Plus Its not that bad round here. If I stood on my roof so i could see in all directions. About 25% is diectly over fields, woods or golf course. About another 35% I would have to walk about 500 yards through another estate before getting the same types of area.

Some of the wealthiest areas in country

And also some quite "Deprived" areas to bring down the average.

Two large and successful universities

And reading the forums, it seems that a large % of Sheffielders would prefere no to have them.

Its not as if Sheffield is out of reach for Rotherhamers...
"Mum, Dad. Iv'e made my mind up. I know you will be sad that you wont see me for months at a time but I am going to Sheffield Uni."

Top rate hospital facilities

Ive never heard of any horror stories about Rotherham Hospital. Relatively modern facilities. Can deal with Emergencies as well as a good percentage of the more common treatments. Again for the more specialist treatments Sheffield is on the doorstep.

So as I keep saying Rotherham and Sheffield are not that different. Its just that some people are trying to compare the Best of Sheffield with the worse of Rotherham.
They all grew into the City / Town due to the Coal and Steel Industries (We still have a Steel works you know :) ).

SlimboyFat

15-04-2005, 23:23

Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
Meadowhell is pretty much within Sheffield boundaries, interchange, car park, overflow carp arks and centre...

Rotherham is just a small village in Sheffield and should just be part of the later... That or make it go to Derbyshire or sommit ...

Again, Major inacuracies.

I have never stated that Meadowhall is in Rotherham. You can keep it.

Rotherham is a Moderately sized town (go look for the population statistics against other towns). We are not in Sheffield, It is Rotherham, South Yorkshire just the same as Sheffield, South Yorkshire.

And why would you want Rotherham to be part of Sheffield when you obviously hate the place (Go on, You can admit that you love Rotherham and want it for yourself).

Derbyshire is a completely seperate County

sommit I dont think we are high enough to be one of those :)

zakabamzam

15-04-2005, 23:31

Sheffield gave us Pulp?
Hah
Pulp played their first gig at Rotherham Arts Centre
...and Jarvis Cocker probably got a kebab burger from the caff in the market

SlimboyFat

15-04-2005, 23:41

zakabamzam: Still can't work out who's side your on :D

I also saw there greatest Hits DVD and they practised at Catcliffe, Rotherham. (the Pottery place under the arches)

t020

16-04-2005, 00:20

Slimboy - I'd expect the (city average) crime statistics to be higher in a larger city because if I was a thief I'd do my business in a place with lots of people to rob.

Peak District on doorstep - I don't think you can argue with that one. Yes, it's still a relatively short trip from Rotherham, but most of Sheffield, particularly the south west, is within easy reach. With regards the fields in Rotherham, the ones I have seen are all filled with pylons and with chimneys in the close horizon! Hardly a scenic landscape.

Regarding top rate hospitals - I drew attention to this because of the fact that Sheffield is renowned for its cancer treatment facilities and also a top rate childrens hospital.

SlimboyFat

16-04-2005, 12:45

I would have to disagree with the reasoning for the crime rate. Most of these "petty" criminals (I'm not stating that these crimes are not of importance but there going into banks with sawn offs) are not the type to be driving to other areas. For one they will have to pinch a local car to start with, which was one of the crimes stated. These type of criminals will operate lacally. They may go into the next village / area if it is one of the "more well off" areas due to a better chance of a better "pay day".

To summerise most Sheffield crimes will be commited by people living in Sheffield.

Peak District: Yes its on the doorstep for a relatively small area of Sheffield. Has stated a large area of Sheffield will have a longer / slower journey to Sheffield than I would. You state that its on the doorstep for the South West. Hasn't that just cut it down to 12.5%.

Rotherham Fields: I f I look towards the motorway (which is hidden from where I live) there are a few Pylons so you can probably knock 5% off the figure I gave for "Looking over the next estate". Apart from that there isn't any.
he last time these Pylons where mentioned you where stating about all the pylons that start at the side of the Rotherway, but a good 50% head off into Sheffield.

Hospitals: I will deny that Sheffield has some top notch Hospitals. But they are generally "Specialist" treatments which dont require an emergency responce. Thankfully neither myself or any of my family / friends have required the services of Weston Park Hospital but I would have thought that it ussually treats people on an appointment basis. The doctor states that he wants you to go for some test, he wont order the ambulance and whisk you off, It will be "You have an appointment in 2 weeks time an 10.30am".
These Services are just as benificial to Rotherhamers as they are for Sheffielders.

I am in no way dissing Sheffield or its people. Its just that all we seem to be getting as arguments are..

Inacuracies
Amenities that either i am not interested in or if I do need to go occasionally it will be no problem me getting there.