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tonkatoy
30-03-2008, 12:55
I have been putting together a website of Sheffield pubs past and present.

www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk

Loads of people have helped me on this but I still need information and photographs of pubs.

If you can help send jpeg images to pictures@sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk

Preserve this information for posterity so that others can enjoy it

THANKS

cdtiman
30-03-2008, 15:29
:thumbsup:Great Site:thumbsup:

Wardonia
30-03-2008, 15:41
You could collaborate with this site -

http://www.thewookie.co.uk/inpubs.htm

poppins
30-03-2008, 16:19
I have been putting together a website of Sheffield pubs past and present.

www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk

Loads of people have helped me on this but I still need information and photographs of pubs.

If you can help send jpeg images to pictures@sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk

Preserve this information for posterity so that others can enjoy it

THANKS


No Magnet pub on there :huh:

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 17:06
No Magnet pub on there :huh:

Not big on accuracy, is it?

Some Mostly very out of date and innaccurate information.

No Vulcan on Northern Avenue mentioned, nor has it been updated in three or four years, same as the Fellbrigg, on the corner of Arbourthorne road and Park Grange Road is still listed as being an operational pub, yet it's been the Beacon church building for a good three to four years at least, now.

Also the photograph of the Captive Queen on Guildford Ave is shown as it is today, a church, not as it was when it was a pub, but all the info you get is "the pub is shut"... not that "much money was spent converting it into a church.."

The Horse And Lion has been listed as being on "Norfolk Park Road":- it's nowhere NEAR NPR!!! It's on Park Grange Road, and has been for over forty flippin years!

The Jervis Lumb is not mentioned.

the lansdowne is listed as being demolished in 1990:- the damn thing was demolished when I was at school! Definitely no later than the early to mid eighties!

The Cross Guns/ Tuxedo Blue is listed as a pub, and it's quite some time since the building was converted into the Sharrow Surestart Childrens Centre.

The Nelson is still listed as the Latino, again, not been known as that for some years

No mention of the Scottish Queen on Park Hill flats, nor the one on the shops there, the ?Earl George? (and which braindead wally did this person get the information off, that the PHF were going to be blown up? the PHF are a flaming listed building, FGS!)

If Classic Rock were to see the entry for her old pub (now demolished) I think she'd have a fit, as it's still listed as the Jolly bufer, not CRB, never mind that the place has, sadly, been demolished for ages! (not to mention according to the site, the wards' brewery is "recently closed!" ) jeesh!

The Devonshire arms on Ecclesall road seems to have mysteriously morphed into the one at Dore... :huh::loopy::huh:

these errors/ omissions are jsut at a first glance!

About the only accurate comment, regarding this site, is that it has listed the names of some Sheffield pubs...

Not really impressed

swervin
30-03-2008, 17:11
have you finished

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 17:11
A second look gives innacuracies on the Old Harrow at White lane and Ye Olde Harrow at "Boad" (sic) Lane. (the BRoad Lane pub has the same picture as the White Lane pub.

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 17:12
have you finished

not quite lol, see above!

muddycoffee
30-03-2008, 17:17
Looks like PT was not impressed!

Well I have been working on my Neepsend section this weekend.
http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

There is no substitute for legwork and taking your own photographs. Especially when the weather is a good as it has been today.

poppins
30-03-2008, 17:50
Looks like PT was not impressed!

Well I have been working on my Neepsend section this weekend.
http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

There is no substitute for legwork and taking your own photographs. Especially when the weather is a good as it has been today.


Lovely Muddy, lovely

muddycoffee
30-03-2008, 18:12
Thanks Poppins

you are all welcome..

muddycoffee
30-03-2008, 18:21
Actually Tonkatoy's pubs website is an interesting source for me as he has some of the bars with short lived names which I missed from my own surveys.

Keeping up to date across so many establishments is a truly enormous task. Especially in the town centre where bars can change their name and style very frequently.

The most rewarding thing about running a website like this is when you find you have pictures of the same venue across a decade in several different colour schemes.

Texas
30-03-2008, 18:26
That's rather a tear jerkin' set of shots muddy. Actually the name 'Kelham Island Tavern' is good, it reminds me of a rolling mills joke ' Where are you going for your holidays?' (Answer) Kelham Island. The Wellington should've been called the 'Red House' and featured blues music. But I'm confused about the Manchester. It faced the river on Nursery Street, to it's right was the approach to Bridgehouses Goods Yard, the Harlequin was in another block on Johnson Street, yeah? The Acorn (Club 60) brings back memories.

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 18:33
Looks like PT was not impressed!

Well I have been working on my Neepsend section this weekend.
http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

There is no substitute for legwork and taking your own photographs. Especially when the weather is a good as it has been today.

no, TBH, I wasn't over-impressed at the quality. The odd mistake, is, IMO acceptable, but to be full of inaccuracies and errors I felt was not good at all.

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 18:35
That's rather a tear jerkin' set of shots muddy. Actually the name 'Kelham Island Tavern' is good, it reminds me of a rolling mills joke ' Where are you going for your holidays?' (Answer) Kelham Island. The Wellington should've been called the 'Red House' and featured blues music. But I'm confused about the Manchester. It faced the river on Nursery Street, to it's right was the approach to Bridgehouses Goods Yard, the Harlequin was in another block on Johnson Street, yeah? The Acorn (Club 60) brings back memories.

That's right, Texas, The Harlequin was round the back of the Wicker and the Manchester, in Johnson St, The manchester has now been renamed as The Harlequin, for some odd reason.

muddycoffee
30-03-2008, 18:46
The original Harlequin did look like a lovely pub in the old photo I have seen and had an interesting history. Unfortunately I never visited it while I had the chance.

Can you give a more accurate description of where it was, as it is described as a riverside pub and at 26 johnson street. Was it at the other corner of Johnson street to the Manchester, or was it at the edge of the river ?

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 18:55
The original Harlequin did look like a lovely pub in the old photo I have seen and had an interesting history. Unfortunately I never visited it while I had the chance.

Can you give a more accurate description of where it was, as it is described as a riverside pub and at 26 johnson street. Was it at the other corner of Johnson street to the Manchester, or was it at the edge of the river ?

I can only describe it from memory, as I used to go in there when I worked on the wicker shortly after leaving school.

Do you remember the one-way street that ran behind the manchester, which linked up to the wicker? (the 47/48 used to run on it, before the ring road works)

Well, the Harlequin was round the back of the Manchester, on that road, going back toward the Wicker. Despite the reports to the contrary, it was not in any way as close to the river as the Manchester is.

It was an old-style spit-and-sawdust pub, very basic, very stark, thermoplastic tiles on the floor... it was small, but the food they did was very nice. I used to go in there for my lunch.

edit to say just loked at a pre-ringroad map. the harlequin was probably at the junction of Johnson st with either stanley st or stanley lane
(looking at this map here

http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=53.38768,-1.46446|18|4&loc=GB:53.58283:-1.50653

cdtiman
30-03-2008, 19:04
If pt would have read the firt thred it states: Quote Preserve this information for posterity so that others can enjoy it :you should realise that its not supposed to be up to date its what they wrer not as they are in 2008.

cdtiman
30-03-2008, 19:06
muddycoffee as i said to tonkatoyyours is a good site as well:thumbsup:

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 19:07
If pt would have read the firt thred it states: Quote Preserve this information for posterity so that others can enjoy it :you should realise that its not supposed to be up to date its what they wrer not as they are in 2008.

not sure what a firt thred is, but In answer...

So for posterity, then, pubs like the Vulcan or the Jervis Lumb never existed? Or it's a fact, then, that the Ye Olde arrow in "Brod" (sic) Lane is actually the Old Harrow at Gleadless Town End? There's up to date, and there's "accurate", cdt.

(same lack of accuracy with the Harrows, as with the Devonshire Arms at Dore, and the DA at Eccy road)

cdtiman
30-03-2008, 19:10
:loopy:so there`s a few not listed yet

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 19:13
muddycoffee as i said to tonkatoyyours is a good site as well:thumbsup:

To give Muddycoffee his due, I have enjoyed reading and comenting on several of his sites, and he is someone who strives to be accurate in the information he gives out.

He also gives more informaton on his site than, eg "This is a picture of a pub". His sites are accurate, informative and entertaining.

Wardonia
30-03-2008, 19:24
Looks like PT was not impressed!

Well I have been working on my Neepsend section this weekend.
http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

There is no substitute for legwork and taking your own photographs. Especially when the weather is a good as it has been today.

Good stuff.

The Farfield which was "battered by the 2007 flood" also features in photos of the Great Flood of 1864.

Photo here on the excellent Great Flood site - http://mick-armitage.staff.shef.ac.uk/sheffield/photogal/picflud7.html

lazyherbert
30-03-2008, 19:43
The original Harlequin did look like a lovely pub in the old photo I have seen and had an interesting history. Unfortunately I never visited it while I had the chance.

Can you give a more accurate description of where it was, as it is described as a riverside pub and at 26 johnson street. Was it at the other corner of Johnson street to the Manchester, or was it at the edge of the river ?

The old Harlequin was on the corner of Johnson St. & Stanley St. opposite corner to the Lodestar works.I lived 2 doors away from the pub.

cdtiman
30-03-2008, 19:43
muddycoffee in your neepsend review there was one between the farfield and the gardeners rest i think it was called the monkey puzzle at the bottom of parkwood road its now a hydrolic`s (shure PT will pick up if spelling is wrong:hihi:) firm

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 20:02
The old Harlequin was on the corner of Johnson St. & Stanley St. opposite corner to the Lodestar works.I lived 2 doors away from the pub.

Thanks for clarifying that LazyH...

I could remember it was on the end of one of the two "stanley"s, but it's been so long since I worked down there, things were a bit hazy as to which of the two it was.

Plain Talker
30-03-2008, 20:04
muddycoffee in your neepsend review there was one between the farfield and the gardeners rest i think it was called the monkey puzzle at the bottom of parkwood road its now a hydrolic`s (shure PT will pick up if spelling is wrong:hihi:) firm

If you wish... it's "sure", and the word you are looking for is "hydraulics" (no "o", no apostrophe) Always happy to help.

anarchist
30-03-2008, 20:10
The original Harlequin did look like a lovely pub in the old photo I have seen and had an interesting history. Unfortunately I never visited it while I had the chance.

Can you give a more accurate description of where it was, as it is described as a riverside pub and at 26 johnson street. Was it at the other corner of Johnson street to the Manchester, or was it at the edge of the river ?

Hi
It was one block back from the river. It was a great pub for music and had an old pot stove in the bar with a chimney that crossed the bar area and at times glowed with the heat. Sadly it became stucturally unsound and was demolished a few years back.

tonkatoy
30-03-2008, 20:18
Looks like PT was not impressed!

Well I have been working on my Neepsend section this weekend.
http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

There is no substitute for legwork and taking your own photographs. Especially when the weather is a good as it has been today.

I have been putting this together for many years and it is not meant to be a day to day updated listing. The idea is to list every pub and brewery that has ever existed in Sheffield and hopefully find a picture to go on the site. I do not intend to go and rephotograph a pub simply because the sign has changed.

I currently have a listing of over 1600 pubs and 85 breweries and will eventually get round to sorting it all out. I also started to write a book about old Sheffield pubs and have some excellent archive shots. I doubt anyone in Sheffield has a more complete archive but it still needs huge input.

Unfortunately I have far to many irons in the fire at once and it is difficult to find the time.

Happy to co-operate with others on a constructive project (particularly the book) but I have no time for armchair critics.

tonkatoy
30-03-2008, 20:23
I can only describe it from memory, as I used to go in there when I worked on the wicker shortly after leaving school.

Do you remember the one-way street that ran behind the manchester, which linked up to the wicker? (the 47/48 used to run on it, before the ring road works)

Well, the Harlequin was round the back of the Manchester, on that road, going back toward the Wicker. Despite the reports to the contrary, it was not in any way as close to the river as the Manchester is.

It was an old-style spit-and-sawdust pub, very basic, very stark, thermoplastic tiles on the floor... it was small, but the food they did was very nice. I used to go in there for my lunch.

edit to say just loked at a pre-ringroad map. the harlequin was probably at the junction of Johnson st with either stanley st or stanley lane
(looking at this map here

http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=53.38768,-1.46446|18|4&loc=GB:53.58283:-1.50653

The word is "looked". It is easy to make typos.......

tonkatoy
30-03-2008, 20:25
If you wish... it's "sure", and the word you are looking for is "hydraulics" (no "o", no apostrophe) Always happy to help.

I think you refer to the Victoria. There is a photo on my site

tonkatoy
30-03-2008, 20:27
muddycoffee in your neepsend review there was one between the farfield and the gardeners rest i think it was called the monkey puzzle at the bottom of parkwood road its now a hydrolic`s (shure PT will pick up if spelling is wrong:hihi:) firm

I think you refer to the Victoria. There is a photo on my site

tonkatoy
30-03-2008, 20:28
:loopy:so there`s a few not listed yet

I have traced the addresses of around 1600 pubs and 85 breweries that were in Sheffield. It will take ages to get the site completed

muddycoffee
30-03-2008, 20:37
muddycoffee in your neepsend review there was one between the farfield and the gardeners rest i think it was called the monkey puzzle at the bottom of parkwood road its now a hydrolic`s (shure PT will pick up if spelling is wrong:hihi:) firm

It is on as the Victoria. I took the picture this morning and it was uploaded before noon..

cdtiman
30-03-2008, 20:44
thats it:thumbsup:

muddycoffee
30-03-2008, 20:50
I have been putting this together for many years and it is not meant to be a day to day updated listing. The idea is to list every pub and brewery that has ever existed in Sheffield and hopefully find a picture to go on the site. I do not intend to go and rephotograph a pub simply because the sign has changed.

I currently have a listing of over 1600 pubs and 85 breweries and will eventually get round to sorting it all out. I also started to write a book about old Sheffield pubs and have some excellent archive shots. I doubt anyone in Sheffield has a more complete archive but it still needs huge input.

Unfortunately I have far to many irons in the fire at once and it is difficult to find the time.

Happy to co-operate with others on a constructive project (particularly the book) but I have no time for armchair critics.


There are already several books about sheffield pubs. The Michael Liversage Tome "Sheffield Public houses" is already in print for nearly a decade and extremely good. It is purely an a-z list of all the pubs of sheffield and most of them have a photo, and it is extremely thorough with stories and data collected over many years of research. You will have to improve on his work considerably if you wish to make a success with a book.

Speaking for myself. I have been maintaining my interest in local pubs for 9 years and my website was started in the 1990s. Whenever any news about local pubs gets into the news I intend to add to my data. I am not interested in covering the whole of the city however. I just cover the areas where I sometimes go to drink. I often do not update the site for a considerable time, and then I make some updates.

My main motivation is local history, I have quite a library of local history books and can pour over them for hours. By collecting photos and information in my era, I feel that I am adding to this work. If I can keep it up for decades then the pictures on my websites will track the changes in localpubs and chart many lost pubs before they dissapear completely.

I have also done this with the 70 odd local Cinemas and Tower blocks. I welcome your work, as far as I am concerned the more people doing this the better, we can exchange links and everyone can enjoy a more complete story of local pubs.

lazyherbert
30-03-2008, 21:01
Hi
It was one block back from the river. It was a great pub for music and had an old pot stove in the bar with a chimney that crossed the bar area and at times glowed with the heat. Sadly it became stucturally unsound and was demolished a few years back.

Sorry but it was two blocks from the river.First block had the Lawrences razor blade factory on it.Then Nursery Lane(I think).Then Boltons the scrap yard then 2 houses and then the Harlequin.In the 50s when Joe Worley had it,it was the worst pint of Wards in Sheffield.

JenC
31-03-2008, 08:43
Looks like PT was not impressed!

Well I have been working on my Neepsend section this weekend.
http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

There is no substitute for legwork and taking your own photographs. Especially when the weather is a good as it has been today.

Great site and photos.

I'm glad you've got the Ship Inn on there; I go past it almost every week on my way to see my Gran and although I've never been in I always admire it's traditional exterior. Do you happen to know when it was built?

There's a few blocks of flats (maybe offices, I don't know) going up round there - I just hope the pub is safe from bulldozers.

edit: Nevermind about when it was built, I've realised it says 1833 on tonkatoys website :)

tonkatoy
31-03-2008, 08:47
Actually Tonkatoy's pubs website is an interesting source for me as he has some of the bars with short lived names which I missed from my own surveys.

Keeping up to date across so many establishments is a truly enormous task. Especially in the town centre where bars can change their name and style very frequently.

The most rewarding thing about running a website like this is when you find you have pictures of the same venue across a decade in several different colour schemes.

Thanks for that. It is an enormous task and one that I am currently distracted from because of major events surrounding a Sheffield Park.

The Old Harrow was a mere crossed link and this has been corrected.

I have done years of research into pubs existing and closed and breweries that served them.

This is to eventually go on the site regarding a newly reopened pub that I still have as closed. It still needs work but is basically complete. I hope you feel that this type of archive is important. If it is lost it will be all but impossible to research. Time is precious..


Let me know what you think. Constructive criticism is always welcome. Simply pulling apart someones work for a crossed link or a typo is not...



BALL INN milestone
When Thomas Rawson founded his brewery on Pond Street in 1758, the population of Sheffield was less than 15000, or about 2.5% of today’s population. Rawson was in fact Sheffield’s first common brewer, that is a brewer who brews for the trade rather than a home brew pub. It was a good move as the free trade rapidly expanded and soon Rawson’s were buying tied houses. Many of these pubs came into Rawson’s ownership by way of payment of debt. Simply landlords who could not pay for their beer supplies sold out to remain afloat. The expansion of the business required a new brewery to be built in 1780.
Rawson died in 1828 and his company passed to his sister Hannah who in turn passed it to her nephew Thomas Birks in 1844. At the time Rawson’s owned around 30 public houses. One of these was the Ball Inn on Green Lane. The pub first appears on the 1833 census and most likely dates from Thomas Rawson’s tenure of the business. It was one of the first of the many pubs to be run by Rawson’s over the next 100 years. The brewery marked its centenary in 1858 by which time the population of Sheffield had increased 10 fold since it first opened. It was obviously a good time to be a brewer.

Thomas Birks had 2 sons, Edward and William. Whilst Edward eventually took over the running at Rawson’s, his younger brother used the family wealth to buy out Nanson’s Lady’s Bridge Brewery. By 1858 the Birks family ran the 2 largest breweries in Sheffield and in 1871 William expanded his own interests by taking over the Crown Brewery on Langsett Road.
Thomas Rawson & Co became a publicly listed company in 1897 and continued to expand its business.
In 1900 Duncan Gilmour entered the brewing business by taking over the Lady’s Bridge Brewery. Gilmour’s rapidly expanded by buying out several of the smaller breweries in the city. Until the outbreak of World War 2 Gilmour’s and Rawson’s controlled around 30% of Sheffield’s pubs.
In December 1940 a German bomb flattened the Rawson’s Brewery in Pond Street, and in order to stop its pubs going dry, the company was forced into selling them to Gilmour’s. The Ball Inn was now a Gilmour’s house. Gilmour’s ownership was not as long as that of Rawson’s. In 1954 Gilmour sold out to Tetley of Leeds, and by 1964 had closed the company down. By this time the Ball had ceased to be a public house.and for many years was occupied by printers Coates & Wilkinson Ltd., and renamed the Hylton Works.
Around 10 years ago it appeared that the Ball was to get a second chance. New flats were being built and work started to renovate the ancient pub. However the project was abandoned and for several years the Ball was covered in orange plastic netting and had an uncertain future. However the plans were revived a couple of years ago, and following a rumoured £500,000 rebuild the Ball Inn was reborn as the Milestone “gastropub”, with a good range of real ales. It might not be recognisable to the drinkers of 1830, but is a good addition to Sheffield’s collection of real ale pubs.
At the other end of Ball Bridge stood the Cardigan Tavern. It is almost as old as the Ball and has been closed for almost as long. Work has recently started on the building. It is not to be reopened as a pub…but maybe one day it will.



Incidentally I have several photos of the Milestone as a printers works.

Regarding Cask & cutler/Wellington. I do not believe it was ever a dentists although a nearby pub suffered that fate.

tonkatoy
31-03-2008, 09:04
Great site and photos.

I'm glad you've got the Ship Inn on there; I go past it almost every week on my way to see my Gran and although I've never been in I always admire it's traditional exterior. Do you happen to know when it was built?

There's a few blocks of flats (maybe offices, I don't know) going up round there - I just hope the pub is safe from bulldozers.

edit: Nevermind about when it was built, I've realised it says 1833 on tonkatoys website :)

Thanks for that...

AND THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECENTLY SENT ME PUB PIX AND INFO.., It will get on the site eventually. HONESTLY

The Ship is a great landmark. I love the tiles.

It was a pub in 1833 and appears to have been a free house. It wasbought by Tomlinsons in 1924 when the tiles were applied. After the Anchor Brewery was bombed Tomlinsons merged with the tiny "Hope Brewery" to for Hope & Anchor who were arguably the driving force and foundations of the UKs largest brewers Bass Charrington.

Not been in for a while but I think it was one of the pubs sold off during deregulation to Hardy Hansons... correct me if I am wrong on that.

There is certainly huge activity in the area but as far as I know the pub is safe... By the way if you pop round the corner onto Dunn Street there is the beautifully preserved Bulls Head with Old Albion mouldings. Hard to believe that this short road once had 6 pubs.

JenC
31-03-2008, 09:33
Thanks for that...

AND THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECENTLY SENT ME PUB PIX AND INFO.., It will get on the site eventually. HONESTLY

The Ship is a great landmark. I love the tiles.

It was a pub in 1833 and appears to have been a free house. It wasbought by Tomlinsons in 1924 when the tiles were applied. After the Anchor Bas bombed Tomlinsons merged with the tiny "Hope Brewery" to for Hope & Anchor who were arguably the driving force and foundations of the UKs largest brewers Bass Charrington.

Not been in for a while but I think it was one of the pubs sold off during deregulation to Hardy Hansons... correct me if I am wrong on that.

There is certainly huge activity in the area but as far as I know the pub is safe... By the way if you pop round the corner onto Dunn Street there is the beautifully preserved Bulls Head with Old Albion mouldings. Hard to believe that this short road once had 6 pubs.

Thankyou for the information tonkatoy, very interesting :)

I may well have a wander round there and have look at the Bulls Head while I'm at it.

tonkatoy
31-03-2008, 11:15
There are already several books about sheffield pubs. The Michael Liversage Tome "Sheffield Public houses" is already in print for nearly a decade and extremely good. It is purely an a-z list of all the pubs of sheffield and most of them have a photo, and it is extremely thorough with stories and data collected over many years of research. You will have to improve on his work considerably if you wish to make a success with a book.

Speaking for myself. I have been maintaining my interest in local pubs for 9 years and my website was started in the 1990s. Whenever any news about local pubs gets into the news I intend to add to my data. I am not interested in covering the whole of the city however. I just cover the areas where I sometimes go to drink. I often do not update the site for a considerable time, and then I make some updates.

My main motivation is local history, I have quite a library of local history books and can pour over them for hours. By collecting photos and information in my era, I feel that I am adding to this work. If I can keep it up for decades then the pictures on my websites will track the changes in localpubs and chart many lost pubs before they dissapear completely.

I have also done this with the 70 odd local Cinemas and Tower blocks. I welcome your work, as far as I am concerned the more people doing this the better, we can exchange links and everyone can enjoy a more complete story of local pubs.

Send me a link and I will add it. Interesting to hear you are at Woodseats as I am very close by. I was particularly pleased when the Coach & Horses reopened at Dronfield. That is now a fabulous pub. You might have spotted the articles that I write for Beer Matters. I recently did histories of the Woodseats and the Sheaf View.

If you missed them I can forward.

Incidentally I already have a publishing deal for the book, if I ever get round to finishing it. It is about 75% complete but I hope to get back on the case when the current distractions disappear.

Keep up the archives.

Incidentally I have some copies of reports and invoices for flood damage to some Deardens pubs around Malin Bridge etc from the great flood.

Greybeard
31-03-2008, 12:27
But I'm confused about the Manchester. It faced the river on Nursery Street, to it's right was the approach to Bridgehouses Goods Yard,

The Manchester (Arms ?) stood on the corner of Spital Fields and Nursery street. There was another pub on the opposite side, on Mowbray street, next to the old baths, called the Brown Cow I think. Strange name for a Sheffield pub.

tonkatoy
31-03-2008, 14:30
The Manchester (Arms ?) stood on the corner of Spital Fields and Nursery street. There was another pub on the opposite side, on Mowbray street, next to the old baths, called the Brown Cow I think. Strange name for a Sheffield pub.

The Manchester Arms is now renamed the Harlequin
The Brown Cow is now the Riverside having gone through several reincarnations.

Incidentally I have a photograph of the pub being redone.

Half the sign calls it the Riverside whilst the other has Wards signs and is called the Brown Cow. Sadly the huge plaster Brown Cow moulding the adorned the back wall of the pub was destroyed in the renovation. A great loss.

trish2002
31-03-2008, 14:54
Hi Tonkatoy..My Grandfather Frank LOCKETT was the licensee of the New Brunswick Inn, Allen Street in 1911 before he came to Canada. He was also a policeman but had to resign ofcourse to run the pub.

Interesting article in the June 1911 Sheffield Independent regarding a Public House Scene (New Brunswick Inn) where a customer throws a glass at a Sheffield Landlady (my grandmother Mary Ann LOCKETT nee MORAN) and the Sheffield Court House decision. Let me know if you would like a copy for your records.

Trish

Ousetunes
31-03-2008, 15:13
Good stuff.

The Farfield which was "battered by the 2007 flood" also features in photos of the Great Flood of 1864.

Photo here on the excellent Great Flood site - http://mick-armitage.staff.shef.ac.uk/sheffield/photogal/picflud7.html

That website deserves a thread of its own.

Some of it is so sad and touching......


....all those pubs reduced to rubble.:hihi:

Vic787
02-04-2008, 11:53
While searching family history found that my grandfather Walter Smith was the landlord of the Anvil Inn Waingate around 1920 - 1925. It was at 22-24 Waingate next door but one to the Bull and Mouth. Its gone now replaced by a shop not built in stone, but concrete. There is a picture of it on Picturesheffield.com.
That is fact and almost accurate.

Leg-end
02-04-2008, 12:01
I have been putting together a website of Sheffield pubs past and present.

www.sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk

Loads of people have helped me on this but I still need information and photographs of pubs.

If you can help send jpeg images to pictures@sheffieldpubs.fsnet.co.uk

Preserve this information for posterity so that others can enjoy it

THANKS

The Devonshire Arms (Herries Road) is a recent development. It was built as a replacement for the Devonshire Arms on the Moor which was bombed during the war and subsequently pulled down in redevelopments.

What is this all about?

tonkatoy
03-04-2008, 09:01
Thanks to Michael who sent photo of Middlewood Tavern. I have lost your details so I hope you pick up this mention.

I have added the pub to the listings.

THANKS

tonkatoy
03-04-2008, 09:04
What is this all about?

Not an unusual situation.

a simple transfer of licence.

Alan52
03-04-2008, 09:56
Thanks for this great site but I was wondering if anyone can help me .I remember a pub just up the road from uniteds ground my dad worked there for years im told .Please can anyone put a name to this pub. Thanks Alan.

DUFFEMS
03-04-2008, 10:52
In the early 1950's my uncle was landlord of the Old No.12 which was on the Haymarket then he moved round to the Rotherham House which (I believe) was in Exchange Street at that time.
I have seen a couple of photos on picture Sheffield.com but, is there any available information anywhere of the unusual layout of the Old No.12 which, according to my 82 years old mum, had a room which was frequented by the market traders and another one which was more of a "cocktail bar" where the solicitors used to drink when they were attending the court houses. I can recall the Rotherham House very well as I used to stay there as a child and I remember the concert room having a stage with a mike, it also had function rooms above. Did this pub later become the Bernie Inn?
My uncle moved to the Greengate Inn at High Green which, at the time, was a newly-built pub, this must have been around the mid 1950's.

Rocklegend
03-04-2008, 12:20
Would like to see a photo of the Sawmakers when it was a pub if one exists.Looked on picturesheffield and in Mick Liversidge's book and can't find one.

retep
03-04-2008, 13:02
Would like to see a photo of the Sawmakers when it was a pub if one exists.Looked on picturesheffield and in Mick Liversidge's book and can't find one.

Muddycoffee has a pic of the Sawmakers as it is now on his site,

http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

And there are a few as a pub on picturesheffield, put sawmakers in the bottom search box.

Rocklegend
03-04-2008, 13:33
Muddycoffee has a pic of the Sawmakers as it is now on his site,

http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

And there are a few as a pub on picturesheffield, put sawmakers in the bottom search box. Excellent,cheers retep,can't have been looking in the right place:help:

Classic Rock
03-04-2008, 13:48
Not big on accuracy, is it?

Some Mostly very out of date and innaccurate information.


If Classic Rock were to see the entry for her old pub (now demolished) I think she'd have a fit, as it's still listed as the Jolly bufer, not CRB, never mind that the place has, sadly, been demolished for ages! (not to mention according to the site, the wards' brewery is "recently closed!" ) jeesh!



Not quite a fit - I had more of a fit (to myself) when the demolition squad moved in and bulldozed a piece of Sheffield's rock and roll history.

I think these pictures were all taken at a similar time to create this site and I suspect that would have been 2002 because that's when the Jolly Buffer had those boards over the windows. I took it on in early 2003.

It's a really faceless picture of the pub, no character at all with boards on the windows! Not a parked up motorbike in sight.

Plain Talker
03-04-2008, 13:55
Not quite a fit - I had more of a fit (to myself) when the demolition squad moved in and bulldozed a piece of Sheffield's rock and roll history.

I think these pictures were all taken at a similar time to create this site and I suspect that would have been 2002 because that's when the Jolly Buffer had those boards over the windows. I took it on in early 2003.

It's a really faceless picture of the pub, no character at all with boards on the windows! Not a parked up motorbike in sight.

...it was a excellent venue. I enjoyed many a forum meet there, back in the day (when I was drinking) and the excellent hospitality of you and Sass as hosts.

bulldozed... :cry:

cos that's just what the city needs, isn't it, more overpriced apartments, when the ones already in existence can't even be shifted...

happyhippy
03-04-2008, 14:36
The original Harlequin did look like a lovely pub in the old photo I have seen and had an interesting history. Unfortunately I never visited it while I had the chance.

Can you give a more accurate description of where it was, as it is described as a riverside pub and at 26 johnson street. Was it at the other corner of Johnson street to the Manchester, or was it at the edge of the river ?

The Harlequin was a tremendous pub. A smallish, three roomed pub, with a pot-bellied stove on one. I recall a mural on the wall on the way to the outside loos as well.

It was on the corner of Johnson St and Stanley St.

swervin
04-04-2008, 08:32
Looks like PT was not impressed!

Well I have been working on my Neepsend section this weekend.
http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

There is no substitute for legwork and taking your own photographs. Especially when the weather is a good as it has been today.

absolutey brill mate it brings back great memories seeing that photo of the wheatsheaf on platt st my old dad used to take me and my twin brother their on a sunday afternoon when we were kids,there were stables in the back yard with an horse which the old rag and bone owned :):) oops you may be a lady i'm sorry if you calling you mate

Alan52
04-04-2008, 10:49
Hi how many pubs were there on Bramal Lane. Thank Alan

Rocklegend
04-04-2008, 17:14
Hi how many pubs were there on Bramal Lane. Thank Alan The only pubs I know of that were on Bramall Lane that are no longer there are The Queen Adelaide & Norfolk Arms-both long gone.

karl101
04-04-2008, 18:47
May I take this opportunity to point out my Phenomenal Sheffield Pub Quiz is still available for to quiz yourself on the identity of a wide range of pubs in Sheffield?

http://www.g7smy.co.uk/pub/

K.

muddycoffee
05-04-2008, 14:37
Today, I have been down for a further mission in my loosely termed "neepsend" area and have added several more pubs to my site. The ones at the bottom of the page.

http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm

muddycoffee
06-04-2008, 17:08
Today I have added a few more venues to my pictures.

Including the Fat Cat, The Sun Inn, The Riverside and the Harlequin ( Manchester )

http://www.thewookie.co.uk/pubs/neepsend.htm#5thapril

Texas
06-04-2008, 17:44
You are, what's known as, a gem, muddy. You should get a book going with these shots, because the way Sheffield's going nowadays, there ain't going to be much left in a few more years.
The Brown Cow. They've really tarted that up (or down) haven't they? I remember that it had a facade similar to the Anchor, a kind of mock brownstone effect, a bit smooth like marble. Pretty good beer though, Wards I believe.
There was another pub across the road on what would've been on the bottom of the Bank, called the 'Ball', sold Shipstones. It was brilliant if it was looked after, but if not, like sour milk.
What a shame you weren't around before they obliterated the Marshall Tavern (Bacon Box) up the Bank.

Rocklegend
06-04-2008, 17:53
Are there any pictures of The Acorn before it became a shop?

muddycoffee
06-04-2008, 18:00
Are there any pictures of The Acorn before it became a shop?

I've never seen one.. I have a few pics in local history books and they all show it as a shop, I believe it closed as a pub in 1960.

muddycoffee
06-04-2008, 18:08
You are, what's known as, a gem, muddy. You should get a book going with these shots, because the way Sheffield's going nowadays, there ain't going to be much left in a few more years.
The Brown Cow. They've really tarted that up (or down) haven't they? I remember that it had a facade similar to the Anchor, a kind of mock brownstone effect, a bit smooth like marble. Pretty good beer though, Wards I believe.
There was another pub across the road on what would've been on the bottom of the Bank, called the 'Ball', sold Shipstones. It was brilliant if it was looked after, but if not, like sour milk.
What a shame you weren't around before they obliterated the Marshall Tavern (Bacon Box) up the Bank.


You are kind Texas.

I look at it this way. There is no point worrying about what has already gone, just record what is there now as today is tommorow's history. As you can see from my website, I have done a comprehensive study of all the remaining old cinema buildings in the City and I was really annoyed that I never got the ABC and the Gaumont.

happyhippy
06-04-2008, 18:22
"Bottom Wellie" was the Cask and Cutler for about 10 years.